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Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 10:37 am
by feckwanker
Liathroidigloine wrote:Who'll step up at T/H if Ryan and Scott are out. Parker starts but who's back up?
Archer?

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 10:41 am
by Liathroidigloine
feckwanker wrote:
Liathroidigloine wrote:Who'll step up at T/H if Ryan and Scott are out. Parker starts but who's back up?
Archer?
He's out. Has to/had surgery.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 10:47 am
by boringperson12
Munster are in big trouble, didn't really think much of your man Parker's scrummaging when he came on against Edinburgh - McGrath/Healy should win a few penalties here.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 10:53 am
by irishrugbyua
Liathroidigloine wrote:Who'll step up at T/H if Ryan and Scott are out. Parker starts but who's back up?
Scott I assume.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 10:54 am
by irishrugbyua
boringperson12 wrote:Munster are in big trouble, didn't really think much of your man Parker's scrummaging when he came on against Edinburgh - McGrath/Healy should win a few penalties here.
Lets wait until we see how the refs goes first.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 10:56 am
by Liathroidigloine
boringperson12 wrote:Munster are in big trouble, didn't really think much of your man Parker's scrummaging when he came on against Edinburgh - McGrath/Healy should win a few penalties here.
He's a big unit at 6' 2'' but is only a little over 17st according to Wiki. He has only 15 games of top flight pro rugby (Sale 12 and Munster 3) but did get 9 caps for England U20's. His contract was renewed for 2018/19 season so they obviously see something in him.

We haven't really seen Leinster go after other teams scrums even when they have a perceived advantage. This is possibly due to the penalty roulette that refs like to play.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 11:01 am
by irishrugbyua
Liathroidigloine wrote:
boringperson12 wrote:Munster are in big trouble, didn't really think much of your man Parker's scrummaging when he came on against Edinburgh - McGrath/Healy should win a few penalties here.
He's a big unit at 6' 2'' but is only a little over 17st according to Wiki. He has only 15 games of top flight pro rugby (Sale 12 and Munster 3) but did get 9 caps for England U20's. His contract was renewed for 2018/19 season so they obviously see something in him.

We haven't really seen Leinster go after other teams scrums even when they have a perceived advantage. This is possibly due to the penalty roulette that refs like to play.
Parker has spent most of the season on the bench for Shannon in the AIL.

He seemed to do okay though when he came on for Archer in last game.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 11:11 am
by irishrugbyua
I'm lead to believe that leinster will have at least 5 u19 players joining the full academy straight from school this summer:

Prop Michael Milne(Birr RFC/Roscrea)
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Lock Ryan Baird(St. Michaels College)
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Openside Scott Penny(St. Michaels College)
Spoiler: show
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Outhalf/Centre David Hawkshaw(Belvedere College)
Spoiler: show
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Outside Back Liam Turner(Blackrock College)
Spoiler: show
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Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 11:17 am
by earl the beaver
irishrugbyua wrote:
earl the beaver wrote:
Leinsterman wrote:Dontcha know that the default position regarding players who have been injured is to declare that they're out of form? It's been the standard argument here for years...
Apart from Luke Fitz who got better while injured.
21 year old Luke Fitzgerald was a starting winger for the lions, the grand slam winners and european champions pre-injury, so yeah he was pretty good.
He also went through some serious down turns in form.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 11:18 am
by irishrugbyua
earl the beaver wrote:
irishrugbyua wrote:
earl the beaver wrote:
Leinsterman wrote:Dontcha know that the default position regarding players who have been injured is to declare that they're out of form? It's been the standard argument here for years...
Apart from Luke Fitz who got better while injured.
21 year old Luke Fitzgerald was a starting winger for the lions, the grand slam winners and european champions pre-injury, so yeah he was pretty good.
He also went through some serious down turns in form.
post injury/injuries.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 11:22 am
by irishrugbyua
Leinster Rugby Academy prop Oisín Heffernan will join Nottingham Rugby next season, the English Championship side have confirmed.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 11:23 am
by Fritz Lung
Any chance of updates from Malahide?
Ireland giving Pakistan a run for their money?

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 11:24 am
by danthefan
Fritz Lung wrote:Any chance of updates from Malahide?
Ireland giving Pakistan a run for their money?
Flashscore.com/cricket

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 11:25 am
by CM11
O'Brien out on his first ball today. :(

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 11:26 am
by hermie
irishrugbyua wrote:Leinster Rugby Academy prop Oisín Heffernan will join Nottingham Rugby next season, the English Championship side have confirmed.
Only played 5 mins this season so hardly surprising. Loughman being kept on?

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 11:29 am
by Rumham
Diego wrote:
irishrugbyua wrote:Stuart Berry reffing Leinster Munster. He is south african.
And completely inept.
Ah fudge, this guy is just the worst.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 11:30 am
by earl the beaver
irishrugbyua wrote:
earl the beaver wrote:
irishrugbyua wrote:
earl the beaver wrote:
Leinsterman wrote:Dontcha know that the default position regarding players who have been injured is to declare that they're out of form? It's been the standard argument here for years...
Apart from Luke Fitz who got better while injured.
21 year old Luke Fitzgerald was a starting winger for the lions, the grand slam winners and european champions pre-injury, so yeah he was pretty good.
He also went through some serious down turns in form.
post injury/injuries.
He had a run of fitness that led to his selection at 15 for the 2011 6N, including playing in the 2010 AIs and he simply did not play well at all. He featured in 3 RWC warmups and subsequently didn't make the squad.

He was a very good player but he's been built up massively.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 11:35 am
by irishrugbyua
hermie wrote:
irishrugbyua wrote:Leinster Rugby Academy prop Oisín Heffernan will join Nottingham Rugby next season, the English Championship side have confirmed.
Only played 5 mins this season so hardly surprising. Loughman being kept on?
Loughman is with Munster these days. Joined on loan back in Jan. Was 5th choice LH at the time.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 11:38 am
by CM11
earl the beaver wrote:[
He had a run of fitness that led to his selection at 15 for the 2011 6N, including playing in the 2010 AIs and he simply did not play well at all. He featured in 3 RWC warmups and subsequently didn't make the squad.

He was a very good player but he's been built up massively.
He was never properly fit after his injury in 09. The run of fitness you talk about was not a run but a case of one niggle after another. He missed some of Leinster's European campaign that year and was reinstated in place of McFadden immediately in January 2011, showing little form. He was then last man standing for the 6N. No one ever claimed he was in form then.

But with Fitz it was always the hope that he'd be able to overcome his injuries and return to his consistent form which he showed for the first three years of his career that led to a Lion's tour. It was always about rating his potential rather than form.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 11:42 am
by Fritz Lung
danthefan wrote:
Fritz Lung wrote:Any chance of updates from Malahide?
Ireland giving Pakistan a run for their money?
Flashscore.com/cricket
Thanks, much appreciated.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 11:45 am
by irishrugbyua
CM11 wrote:
earl the beaver wrote:[
He had a run of fitness that led to his selection at 15 for the 2011 6N, including playing in the 2010 AIs and he simply did not play well at all. He featured in 3 RWC warmups and subsequently didn't make the squad.

He was a very good player but he's been built up massively.
He was never properly fit after his injury in 09. The run of fitness you talk about was not a run but a case of one niggle after another. He missed some of Leinster's European campaign that year and was reinstated in place of McFadden immediately in January 2011, showing little form. He was then last man standing for the 6N. No one ever claimed he was in form then.

But with Fitz it was always the hope that he'd be able to overcome his injuries and return to his consistent form which he showed for the first three years of his career that led to a Lion's tour. It was always about rating his potential rather than form.
If he came through now... :shock: :uhoh:

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 11:51 am
by Leinsterman
Azhar Ali out - Pakistan 2-1 :shock:

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 11:51 am
by fishooks15
[quote="earl the beaver] He had a run of fitness that led to his selection at 15 for the 2011 6N, including playing in the 2010 AIs and he simply did not play well at all. He featured in 3 RWC warmups and subsequently didn't make the squad.

He was a very good player but he's been built up massively.[/quote]

Nah he was top class when he was fit. Even at the last world cup he nearly singlehandedly got us back into that game

Made of glass though. Saw him in Bank Centre recently, seems to be enjoying the retirement, looking verrrry healthy :shock:

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 12:05 pm
by SFBB
Any suggestion of who is being rested for the Australia tour?

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 12:06 pm
by CM11
SFBB wrote:Any suggestion of who is being rested for the Australia tour?
No suggestion yet that anyone will be.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 12:11 pm
by Brumby_in_Vic
Pakistan 3 down. Cricinfo is the place to go for live scoring.

Australian Rugby is on the rack no need to rest players.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 12:11 pm
by SFBB
CM11 wrote:
SFBB wrote:Any suggestion of who is being rested for the Australia tour?
No suggestion yet that anyone will be.
If we go with full strength then we will absolutely destroy them. They’re abysmal.

The question is, when do any of those Lions get a rest before the World Cup?

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 12:13 pm
by CM11
SFBB wrote:
CM11 wrote:
SFBB wrote:Any suggestion of who is being rested for the Australia tour?
No suggestion yet that anyone will be.
If we go with full strength then we will absolutely destroy them. They’re abysmal.

The question is, when do any of those Lions get a rest before the World Cup?
They were already brought back later than usual this season and the same can happen next season. No summer tours next year either. It's not a major concern. No one looks particularly jaded.

Hendo and most likely Henshaw out btw.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 12:13 pm
by Liathroidigloine
Connacht sign another IQ Lock. Joe Maksymiw (Leicester)

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 12:23 pm
by feckwanker
CM11 wrote:
SFBB wrote:
CM11 wrote:
SFBB wrote:Any suggestion of who is being rested for the Australia tour?
No suggestion yet that anyone will be.
If we go with full strength then we will absolutely destroy them. They’re abysmal.

The question is, when do any of those Lions get a rest before the World Cup?
They were already brought back later than usual this season and the same can happen next season. No summer tours next year either. It's not a major concern. No one looks particularly jaded.

Hendo and most likely Henshaw out btw.
Stander does.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 12:27 pm
by earl the beaver
Is Hendy confirmed out? As far as I can see there's been no official word from Ulster on his fitness.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 12:28 pm
by unseenwork
earl the beaver wrote:Is Hendy confirmed out? As far as I can see there's been no official word from Ulster on his fitness.
There's hardly ever word from Ulster about anyone's fitness.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 12:32 pm
by danthefan
feckwanker wrote:
CM11 wrote:
SFBB wrote:
CM11 wrote:
SFBB wrote:Any suggestion of who is being rested for the Australia tour?
No suggestion yet that anyone will be.
If we go with full strength then we will absolutely destroy them. They’re abysmal.

The question is, when do any of those Lions get a rest before the World Cup?
They were already brought back later than usual this season and the same can happen next season. No summer tours next year either. It's not a major concern. No one looks particularly jaded.

Hendo and most likely Henshaw out btw.
Stander does.
He seems to be permanently jaded these days. Which means he isn't really.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 12:33 pm
by Fritz Lung
unseenwork wrote:
earl the beaver wrote:Is Hendy confirmed out? As far as I can see there's been no official word from Ulster on his fitness.
There's hardly ever word from Ulster about anyone's fitness.

Slogan doesn't believe in open and transparent methods.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 12:35 pm
by unseenwork
Fritz Lung wrote:
unseenwork wrote:
earl the beaver wrote:Is Hendy confirmed out? As far as I can see there's been no official word from Ulster on his fitness.
There's hardly ever word from Ulster about anyone's fitness.

Slogan doesn't believe in open and transparent methods.
Someone doesn't in there, it could be Logan, it could just be whoever is in charge of the social media. They stopped doing it regularly not all that long ago.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 1:01 pm
by irishrugbyua
Liathroidigloine wrote:Connacht sign another IQ Lock. Joe Maksymiw (Leicester)
weird signing.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 1:01 pm
by irishrugbyua
feckwanker wrote: Stander does.
Looks about usual for this time of the year.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 1:16 pm
by Willie Falloon
irishrugbyua wrote:
CM11 wrote:
earl the beaver wrote:[
He had a run of fitness that led to his selection at 15 for the 2011 6N, including playing in the 2010 AIs and he simply did not play well at all. He featured in 3 RWC warmups and subsequently didn't make the squad.

He was a very good player but he's been built up massively.
He was never properly fit after his injury in 09. The run of fitness you talk about was not a run but a case of one niggle after another. He missed some of Leinster's European campaign that year and was reinstated in place of McFadden immediately in January 2011, showing little form. He was then last man standing for the 6N. No one ever claimed he was in form then.

But with Fitz it was always the hope that he'd be able to overcome his injuries and return to his consistent form which he showed for the first three years of his career that led to a Lion's tour. It was always about rating his potential rather than form.
If he came through now... :shock: :uhoh:
Hed still be behind record breaking, 6 nations player of the tournament, Jacob Stockdale.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 1:18 pm
by Mullet 2
Would he be tougher than Wolverine though?

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 3:11 pm
by unseenwork
Big Stevie sure is enjoying picking fights with Ulster these days. https://twitter.com/StephenFerris6/stat ... 9583861760