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Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 5:04 pm
by irishrugbyua
camroc1 wrote:
rfurlong wrote:
hermie wrote:
irishrugbyua wrote:Going to be a lot to overcome losing Girve, Nacewa, Nordi, Strauss and Heaslip. And potentially Carbery.

No signings coming in to bring some more experience either..if only Beirne had forced his way to Leinster.
Yeah unfortunately 2nd row is still an area of concern. Kearney and Nagle nowhere near good enough, particularly when the internationals are away. The biggest gaping hole is 12 though.
presumably Fardy wont be let near the 6 shirt next season, with Ruddock, Josh Murphy and hopefully SOB available .... allowing him to do a lot of heavy lifting in the second row

not getting Beirne back is annoying in hindsight
I honestly don't think we'd have been let.
which is why i said if only beirne had forced it.. irfu want less talent at leinster not more.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 5:04 pm
by CM11
camroc1 wrote:
rfurlong wrote:
hermie wrote:
irishrugbyua wrote:Going to be a lot to overcome losing Girve, Nacewa, Nordi, Strauss and Heaslip. And potentially Carbery.

No signings coming in to bring some more experience either..if only Beirne had forced his way to Leinster.
Yeah unfortunately 2nd row is still an area of concern. Kearney and Nagle nowhere near good enough, particularly when the internationals are away. The biggest gaping hole is 12 though.
presumably Fardy wont be let near the 6 shirt next season, with Ruddock, Josh Murphy and hopefully SOB available .... allowing him to do a lot of heavy lifting in the second row

not getting Beirne back is annoying in hindsight
I honestly don't think we'd have been let.
Yep. Beirne should make the Irish squad meaning we'd have 3 of the 4 main locks. Didn't work when that was the case with Munster, won't work now.

Also, we'd probably play him loads in the backrow as best use of resources if we had him.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 5:05 pm
by CM11
Armchair_Superstar wrote:
CM11 wrote:
Armchair_Superstar wrote:Serious begrudgery going on.
Ferris needs to have a long hard look at himself alright.

Anyway, the fact that you actually though my question meant anything more than a straight question is a tad precious. And I still don't have an answer.
Google it you tedious cunt
:lol:

For once, I'm not the one who brought this to tedious level.

Lighten up. Not everyone is out to get Ulster. Just Ferris.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 5:06 pm
by irishrugbyua
a lot of european teams of the year going around with 5 forwards from the leinster academy getting named:

Cian Healy(30)
Tadgh Beirne(26)
Tadhg Furlong(25)
Dan Leavy(23)
James Ryan(21)

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 5:08 pm
by irishrugbyua
CM11 wrote:
camroc1 wrote:
rfurlong wrote:
hermie wrote:
irishrugbyua wrote:Going to be a lot to overcome losing Girve, Nacewa, Nordi, Strauss and Heaslip. And potentially Carbery.

No signings coming in to bring some more experience either..if only Beirne had forced his way to Leinster.
Yeah unfortunately 2nd row is still an area of concern. Kearney and Nagle nowhere near good enough, particularly when the internationals are away. The biggest gaping hole is 12 though.
presumably Fardy wont be let near the 6 shirt next season, with Ruddock, Josh Murphy and hopefully SOB available .... allowing him to do a lot of heavy lifting in the second row

not getting Beirne back is annoying in hindsight
I honestly don't think we'd have been let.
Yep. Beirne should make the Irish squad meaning we'd have 3 of the 4 main locks. Didn't work when that was the case with Munster, won't work now.

Also, we'd probably play him loads in the backrow as best use of resources if we had him.
lots to be learnt from beirne situation.. hopefully leo/academy learn it.

he is best suited at 6 anyway IMO, almost Fardy lite.. scrum cap and all.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 5:12 pm
by Armchair_Superstar
CM11 wrote:
Armchair_Superstar wrote:
CM11 wrote:
Armchair_Superstar wrote:Serious begrudgery going on.
Ferris needs to have a long hard look at himself alright.

Anyway, the fact that you actually though my question meant anything more than a straight question is a tad precious. And I still don't have an answer.
Google it you tedious cunt
:lol:

For once, I'm not the one who brought this to tedious level.

Lighten up. Not everyone is out to get Ulster. Just Ferris.
Full of wee snidey know-it all accusations about a post you’d decided to take personally, but yes it’s me that needs to lighten up.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 5:13 pm
by camroc1
irishrugbyua wrote:
CM11 wrote:
camroc1 wrote:
rfurlong wrote:
hermie wrote: Yeah unfortunately 2nd row is still an area of concern. Kearney and Nagle nowhere near good enough, particularly when the internationals are away. The biggest gaping hole is 12 though.
presumably Fardy wont be let near the 6 shirt next season, with Ruddock, Josh Murphy and hopefully SOB available .... allowing him to do a lot of heavy lifting in the second row

not getting Beirne back is annoying in hindsight
I honestly don't think we'd have been let.
Yep. Beirne should make the Irish squad meaning we'd have 3 of the 4 main locks. Didn't work when that was the case with Munster, won't work now.

Also, we'd probably play him loads in the backrow as best use of resources if we had him.
lots to be learnt from beirne situation.. hopefully leo/academy learn it.

he is best suited at 6 anyway IMO, almost Fardy lite.. scrum cap and all.
Injuries whilst at the Academy did for him. Remember when Beirne left, James Ryan would already have been on the horizon.

And I think once we've let a player go abroad voluntarily, it's fair enough that the other provinces should have first dibs should the opportunity to bring him back into the Irish system arise.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 5:14 pm
by alliswell
Did they mention Tyrone Howe? Him and Ferris made similar contributions to the lions

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 5:16 pm
by hermie
rfurlong wrote:
hermie wrote:
irishrugbyua wrote:Going to be a lot to overcome losing Girve, Nacewa, Nordi, Strauss and Heaslip. And potentially Carbery.

No signings coming in to bring some more experience either..if only Beirne had forced his way to Leinster.
Yeah unfortunately 2nd row is still an area of concern. Kearney and Nagle nowhere near good enough, particularly when the internationals are away. The biggest gaping hole is 12 though.
presumably Fardy wont be let near the 6 shirt next season, with Ruddock, Josh Murphy and hopefully SOB available .... allowing him to do a lot of heavy lifting in the second row

not getting Beirne back is annoying in hindsight
Nor should he be. Not only those 3 but also whomever's not playing 8 from Conan, Deegan and Doris.

12 is the real stickler. Without Henshaw we're goosed. Perhaps Frawley could convert. Either that or fast-track Hawkshaw.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 5:18 pm
by irishrugbyua
camroc1 wrote: Injuries whilst at the Academy did for him. Remember when Beirne left, James Ryan would already have been on the horizon.

And I think once we've let a player go abroad voluntarily, it's fair enough that the other provinces should have first dibs should the opportunity to bring him back into the Irish system arise.
injuries is the main reason he didnt get through at leinster but there are still other things to be learnt from his time in the academy

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 5:19 pm
by hermie
irishrugbyua wrote: lots to be learnt from beirne situation.. hopefully leo/academy learn it.

he is best suited at 6 anyway IMO, almost Fardy lite.. scrum cap and all.
Yep, 6 is quite probably his best position. Won't play there for Munster.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 5:20 pm
by irishrugbyua
hermie wrote:
rfurlong wrote:
hermie wrote:
irishrugbyua wrote:Going to be a lot to overcome losing Girve, Nacewa, Nordi, Strauss and Heaslip. And potentially Carbery.

No signings coming in to bring some more experience either..if only Beirne had forced his way to Leinster.
Yeah unfortunately 2nd row is still an area of concern. Kearney and Nagle nowhere near good enough, particularly when the internationals are away. The biggest gaping hole is 12 though.
presumably Fardy wont be let near the 6 shirt next season, with Ruddock, Josh Murphy and hopefully SOB available .... allowing him to do a lot of heavy lifting in the second row

not getting Beirne back is annoying in hindsight
Nor should he be. Not only those 3 but also whomever's not playing 8 from Conan, Deegan and Doris.

12 is the real stickler. Without Henshaw we're goosed. Perhaps Frawley could convert. Either that or fast-track Hawkshaw.
hawkshaw wont be physically ready for 12 next season.. id say COB and Frawley will get chances but if henshaw is missing a big game ringrose will play 12 and ROL will play 13.. bar one of the previous two taking a huge leap forward.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 5:29 pm
by Jim Lahey
unseenwork wrote:Big Stevie sure is enjoying picking fights with Ulster these days. https://twitter.com/StephenFerris6/stat ... 9583861760
That's hilarious :thumbup:

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 5:33 pm
by Diabhal
Porterbelly1 wrote:
Mullet 2 wrote:
Porterbelly1 wrote:
irishrugbyua wrote:
Liathroidigloine wrote:Connacht sign another IQ Lock. Joe Maksymiw (Leicester)
weird signing.
No £££

Ahh the very man.

Who was the last Irish team to win a major trophy now?
47-10
Ha

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 5:34 pm
by earl the beaver
hermie wrote:
irishrugbyua wrote: lots to be learnt from beirne situation.. hopefully leo/academy learn it.

he is best suited at 6 anyway IMO, almost Fardy lite.. scrum cap and all.
Yep, 6 is quite probably his best position. Won't play there for Munster.
He wants to play secondrow though.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 5:35 pm
by Liathroidigloine
Nordies, why don't you put all the shit political stuff to one side for this weekend, get out and roar your team on and then go after the powers that be?

Support is like marriage, for better or for worse, until death do us part.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 5:49 pm
by CM11
Armchair_Superstar wrote:
CM11 wrote:
Armchair_Superstar wrote:
CM11 wrote:
Armchair_Superstar wrote:Serious begrudgery going on.
Ferris needs to have a long hard look at himself alright.

Anyway, the fact that you actually though my question meant anything more than a straight question is a tad precious. And I still don't have an answer.
Google it you tedious cunt
:lol:

For once, I'm not the one who brought this to tedious level.

Lighten up. Not everyone is out to get Ulster. Just Ferris.
Full of wee snidey know-it all accusations about a post you’d decided to take personally, but yes it’s me that needs to lighten up.
:lol:

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 5:49 pm
by Armchair_Superstar
Liathroidigloine wrote:Nordies, why don't you put all the shit political stuff to one side for this weekend, get out and roar your team on and then go after the powers that be?

Support is like marriage, for better or for worse, until death do us part.
People are sick of the whole Shane Logan/IRFU meaningless management babble and blame shifting and they want he politicians out of the organisation.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 5:54 pm
by hermie
earl the beaver wrote:
hermie wrote:
irishrugbyua wrote: lots to be learnt from beirne situation.. hopefully leo/academy learn it.

he is best suited at 6 anyway IMO, almost Fardy lite.. scrum cap and all.
Yep, 6 is quite probably his best position. Won't play there for Munster.
He wants to play secondrow though.
The players themselves aren't always right though. Fitzgerald thought he was a fullback. Ben Foden wanted to be a scrum-half.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 5:57 pm
by unseenwork
Armchair_Superstar wrote:
Liathroidigloine wrote:Nordies, why don't you put all the shit political stuff to one side for this weekend, get out and roar your team on and then go after the powers that be?

Support is like marriage, for better or for worse, until death do us part.
People are sick of the whole Shane Logan/IRFU meaningless management babble and blame shifting and they want he politicians out of the organisation.
You're never going to escape that in this day and age I fear.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 6:18 pm
by CM11
hermie wrote:
earl the beaver wrote:
hermie wrote:
irishrugbyua wrote: lots to be learnt from beirne situation.. hopefully leo/academy learn it.

he is best suited at 6 anyway IMO, almost Fardy lite.. scrum cap and all.
Yep, 6 is quite probably his best position. Won't play there for Munster.
He wants to play secondrow though.
The players themselves aren't always right though. Fitzgerald thought he was a fullback. Ben Foden wanted to be a scrum-half.
Fitz would have been a very good FB if that had been his position from the start. No room for him there in the first choice side though so his appearances in the position were sporadic meaning he never became that good there.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 6:19 pm
by DiscoHips D'Arcy
unseenwork wrote:
Armchair_Superstar wrote:
Liathroidigloine wrote:Nordies, why don't you put all the shit political stuff to one side for this weekend, get out and roar your team on and then go after the powers that be?

Support is like marriage, for better or for worse, until death do us part.
People are sick of the whole Shane Logan/IRFU meaningless management babble and blame shifting and they want he politicians out of the organisation.
You're never going to escape that in this day and age I fear.
no but actually waiting until after this game will do nothing. At least this way those who are dissatisfied can do something that will show tangibly. For what its worth the only reason im not going is work, not protesting.

What will be interesting is that this is one of the only indications we have regarding ST sales

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 6:20 pm
by irishrugbyua
CM11 wrote:
hermie wrote:
earl the beaver wrote:
hermie wrote:
irishrugbyua wrote: lots to be learnt from beirne situation.. hopefully leo/academy learn it.

he is best suited at 6 anyway IMO, almost Fardy lite.. scrum cap and all.
Yep, 6 is quite probably his best position. Won't play there for Munster.
He wants to play secondrow though.
The players themselves aren't always right though. Fitzgerald thought he was a fullback. Ben Foden wanted to be a scrum-half.
Fitz would have been a very good FB if that had been his position from the start. No room for him there in the first choice side though so his appearances in the position were sporadic meaning he never became that good there.
always will be the case of what if with him..

and even still he got a gs, lions and european cup wins.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 6:27 pm
by Bogbunny
irishrugbyua wrote:
CM11 wrote:
hermie wrote:
earl the beaver wrote:
hermie wrote:
he is best suited at 6 anyway IMO, almost Fardy lite.. scrum cap and all.
Yep, 6 is quite probably his best position. Won't play there for Munster.
He wants to play secondrow though.
The players themselves aren't always right though. Fitzgerald thought he was a fullback. Ben Foden wanted to be a scrum-half.
Fitz would have been a very good FB if that had been his position from the start. No room for him there in the first choice side though so his appearances in the position were sporadic meaning he never became that good there.
always will be the case of what if with him..

and even still he got a gs, lions and european cup wins.[/quote]

Worse try scoring rate for Ireland than Darren Cave TBF.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 6:31 pm
by Jim Lahey
DiscoHips D'Arcy wrote:
unseenwork wrote:
Armchair_Superstar wrote:
Liathroidigloine wrote:Nordies, why don't you put all the shit political stuff to one side for this weekend, get out and roar your team on and then go after the powers that be?

Support is like marriage, for better or for worse, until death do us part.
People are sick of the whole Shane Logan/IRFU meaningless management babble and blame shifting and they want he politicians out of the organisation.
You're never going to escape that in this day and age I fear.
no but actually waiting until after this game will do nothing. At least this way those who are dissatisfied can do something that will show tangibly. For what its worth the only reason im not going is work, not protesting.

What will be interesting is that this is one of the only indications we have regarding ST sales
I'm of the opinion that a year in the Parker Pen will be good for us long term and allow fans to readjust their expectations of the team and the organisation accordingly.

I'm not going mainly cause I'll be dying of a hangover (although might have been tempted if it was free for ST holders), but also because losing the match might not be the worst thing long term.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 6:39 pm
by HighKingLeinster
alliswell wrote:Did they mention Tyrone Howe? Him and Ferris made similar contributions to the lions
And Tom Court.

Though tbf to Ferris, he never singlehandedly cost us a game in twickenham

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 6:42 pm
by Armchair_Superstar
HighKingLeinster wrote:
alliswell wrote:Did they mention Tyrone Howe? Him and Ferris made similar contributions to the lions
And Tom Court.

Though tbf to Ferris, he never singlehandedly cost us a game in twickenham
I thought that was Mike Ross.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 6:46 pm
by Armchair_Superstar
DiscoHips D'Arcy wrote:
unseenwork wrote:
Armchair_Superstar wrote:
Liathroidigloine wrote:Nordies, why don't you put all the shit political stuff to one side for this weekend, get out and roar your team on and then go after the powers that be?

Support is like marriage, for better or for worse, until death do us part.
People are sick of the whole Shane Logan/IRFU meaningless management babble and blame shifting and they want he politicians out of the organisation.
You're never going to escape that in this day and age I fear.
no but actually waiting until after this game will do nothing. At least this way those who are dissatisfied can do something that will show tangibly. For what its worth the only reason im not going is work, not protesting.

What will be interesting is that this is one of the only indications we have regarding ST sales
I’ve other shit on as well.

If there was a degree of positivity about the fixture or the plans for next season, people would move things around to be there.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 6:51 pm
by HighKingLeinster
Armchair_Superstar wrote:
HighKingLeinster wrote:
alliswell wrote:Did they mention Tyrone Howe? Him and Ferris made similar contributions to the lions
And Tom Court.

Though tbf to Ferris, he never singlehandedly cost us a game in twickenham
I thought that was Mike Ross.
Nope, Iron Mike took a bad injury, soldiered on for as long as he could to avoid Court coming on but alas he succumbed and Court embarrassed himself and the team

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 6:52 pm
by irishrugbyua
Bogbunny wrote:
Worse try scoring rate for Ireland than Darren Cave TBF.
and yet the much better player

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 7:21 pm
by Bullettyme
unseenwork wrote:Big Stevie sure is enjoying picking fights with Ulster these days. https://twitter.com/StephenFerris6/stat ... 9583861760
:lol: Whats he like.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 7:22 pm
by Hellraiser
Italy test in Chicago confirmed.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 7:28 pm
by earl the beaver
What a pile of wank, yay an extra game running in a load of tries in front of a disinterested crowd.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 7:30 pm
by DiscoHips D'Arcy
Hellraiser wrote:Italy test in Chicago confirmed.
any other pluming ones. Want to bring the young one to the NZ game

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 7:40 pm
by danthefan
Pointless match. Hopefully it's a, lets say experimental side sent over.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 8:04 pm
by happyhooker
Lads (especially Ulster supporters) what's the backstory of the beef between Ferris and Ulster rugby?

This just popped up on my twitter feed and it seems rather bitchy?

Standard @UlsterRugby sweeping me under the rug, just like a lot of other things this season.... I also received my @lionsofficial cap yesterday #768 https://t.co/l2XXMCEdQr

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 8:08 pm
by Armchair_Superstar
happyhooker wrote:Lads (especially Ulster supporters) what's the backstory of the beef between Ferris and Ulster rugby?

This just popped up on my twitter feed and it seems rather bitchy?

Standard @UlsterRugby sweeping me under the rug, just like a lot of other things this season.... I also received my @lionsofficial cap yesterday #768 https://t.co/l2XXMCEdQr
Ferris has been very critical of the whole organisation and particularly the CEO Shane Logan, who is considered a spoofer by the majority of the fans. Pictures appeared on social media of Bowe and Davy Irwin with their caps and somebody copy/pasted them into an Ulster Rugby post.

The jury is out whether Ferris was joking or being a drama queen.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 8:09 pm
by unseenwork
happyhooker wrote:Lads (especially Ulster supporters) what's the backstory of the beef between Ferris and Ulster rugby?

This just popped up on my twitter feed and it seems rather bitchy?

Standard @UlsterRugby sweeping me under the rug, just like a lot of other things this season.... I also received my @lionsofficial cap yesterday #768 https://t.co/l2XXMCEdQr
He's disingratiated himself with corporate after telling the #HardTruths about the CEO Shane Logan.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 8:14 pm
by happyhooker
The comments are certainly split between who they back!

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Tue May 15, 2018 8:54 pm
by tiddle
Armchair_Superstar wrote:
happyhooker wrote:Lads (especially Ulster supporters) what's the backstory of the beef between Ferris and Ulster rugby?

This just popped up on my twitter feed and it seems rather bitchy?

Standard @UlsterRugby sweeping me under the rug, just like a lot of other things this season.... I also received my @lionsofficial cap yesterday #768 https://t.co/l2XXMCEdQr
Ferris has been very critical of the whole organisation and particularly the CEO Shane Logan, who is considered a spoofer by the majority of the fans. Pictures appeared on social media of Bowe and Davy Irwin with their caps and somebody copy/pasted them into an Ulster Rugby post.

The jury is out whether Ferris was joking or being a drama queen.
he's definitely taking the piss