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Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 2:31 pm
by unseenwork
Liathroidigloine wrote:Dom Ryan is as good if not better a player as Reidy and far better than we have seen from either Rea or Timoney.

The two younger lads have time to improve but in terms of here and now, Ryan would start over either of them.
He hopefully wouldn't.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 2:33 pm
by earl the beaver
Liathroidigloine wrote:Dom Ryan is as good if not better a player as Reidy and far better than we have seen from either Rea or Timoney.

The two younger lads have time to improve but in terms of here and now, Ryan would start over either of them.
He is in his fúcking hoop as good as Reidy.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 2:36 pm
by Sissyfuss
earl the beaver wrote:
Liathroidigloine wrote:Dom Ryan is as good if not better a player as Reidy and far better than we have seen from either Rea or Timoney.

The two younger lads have time to improve but in terms of here and now, Ryan would start over either of them.
He is in his fúcking hoop as good as Reidy.
:lol: :lol: :lol:

You could set your watch by Earl. As reliable as a NIST-F1 Atomic clock. Boom!

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 2:42 pm
by Liathroidigloine
earl the beaver wrote:
Liathroidigloine wrote:Dom Ryan is as good if not better a player as Reidy and far better than we have seen from either Rea or Timoney.

The two younger lads have time to improve but in terms of here and now, Ryan would start over either of them.
He is in his fúcking hoop as good as Reidy.
Reidy wouldn't start for any of the other three provinces. He is military medium.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 2:47 pm
by earl the beaver
Liathroidigloine wrote:
earl the beaver wrote:
Liathroidigloine wrote:Dom Ryan is as good if not better a player as Reidy and far better than we have seen from either Rea or Timoney.

The two younger lads have time to improve but in terms of here and now, Ryan would start over either of them.
He is in his fúcking hoop as good as Reidy.
Reidy wouldn't start for any of the other three provinces. He is military medium.
Reidy has been called up by Joe regularly enough over the past couple of seasons and who cares if wouldn't start for the other 3 provinces (I'd debate that for Connacht) Dom Ryan certainly wouldn't, he got his token thank you cap from Joe and he's not been seen in green since just like Noel Reid.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 2:48 pm
by unseenwork
earl the beaver wrote:
Liathroidigloine wrote:
earl the beaver wrote:
Liathroidigloine wrote:Dom Ryan is as good if not better a player as Reidy and far better than we have seen from either Rea or Timoney.

The two younger lads have time to improve but in terms of here and now, Ryan would start over either of them.
He is in his fúcking hoop as good as Reidy.
Reidy wouldn't start for any of the other three provinces. He is military medium.
Reidy has been called up by Joe regularly enough over the past couple of seasons and who cares if wouldn't start for the other 3 provinces (I'd debate that for Connacht) Dom Ryan certainly wouldn't, he got his token thank you cap from Joe and he's not been seen in green since just like Noel Reid.
God knows why.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 2:50 pm
by hermie
irishrugbyua wrote:
hermie wrote:
irishrugbyua wrote:Rumoured Leinster Academy next season as of 16/05:

Prop
Jack Aungier(19/St. Marys/Suttonians RFC)
Michael Milne(19/Clontarf?/Birr RFC/Roscrea)

Hooker
Ronan Kelleher(20/Lansdowne/St. Michaels College)

Lock
Oisin Dowling(21/Lansdowne/St. Michaels College)
Jack Dunne(19/DUFC/St. Michaels College)
Ryan Baird(19/UCD?/St. Michaels College)

Backrow
Scott Penny(19/UCD?/St. Michaels College)

Scrumhalf
Hugh O'Sullivan(20/Clontarf/Belvedere College)
Paddy Patterson(19/UCD/Blackrock College)

Outhalf
Ciaran Frawley(20/UCD/Skerries RFC)
Harry Byrne(19/UCD/St. Michaels College)

Centre
Conor O'Brien(22/Clontarf/Mullingar RFC)
Jimmy O'Brien(21/UCD/Newbridge College)
Gavin Mullin(20/UCD/Blackrock College)
David Hawkshaw(19/Clontarf?/Belvedere College)

Back Three
Hugo Keenan(22/UCD/Blackrock College)
Jack Kelly(20/DUFC/St. Michaels College)
Michael Silvester(20/DUFC/Clongowes Wood College)
Liam Turner(19/UCD?/Blackrock College)
Tommy O'Brien?
oops, knew I had forgot someone
Which of the 3 O'Briens would you rate as the best prospect at centre?

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 2:50 pm
by earl the beaver
unseenwork wrote:
earl the beaver wrote:
Liathroidigloine wrote:
earl the beaver wrote:
Liathroidigloine wrote:Dom Ryan is as good if not better a player as Reidy and far better than we have seen from either Rea or Timoney.

The two younger lads have time to improve but in terms of here and now, Ryan would start over either of them.
He is in his fúcking hoop as good as Reidy.
Reidy wouldn't start for any of the other three provinces. He is military medium.
Reidy has been called up by Joe regularly enough over the past couple of seasons and who cares if wouldn't start for the other 3 provinces (I'd debate that for Connacht) Dom Ryan certainly wouldn't, he got his token thank you cap from Joe and he's not been seen in green since just like Noel Reid.
God knows why.
Because he's really quite good and has been one of the few players to play consistently well for Ulster over that period?

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 2:54 pm
by unseenwork
earl the beaver wrote: Because he's really quite good and has been one of the few players to play consistently well for Ulster over that period?
Don't rate him. I'd agree with those saying he's bang average, or at least should never be within a whiff of an Ireland shirt considering the players we have about.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 2:55 pm
by Armchair_Superstar
unseenwork wrote:
earl the beaver wrote: Because he's really quite good and has been one of the few players to play consistently well for Ulster over that period?
Don't rate him. I'd agree with those saying he's bang average, or at least should never be within a whiff of an Ireland shirt considering the players we have about.
:lol:

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 2:57 pm
by unseenwork
Armchair_Superstar wrote:
unseenwork wrote:
earl the beaver wrote: Because he's really quite good and has been one of the few players to play consistently well for Ulster over that period?
Don't rate him. I'd agree with those saying he's bang average, or at least should never be within a whiff of an Ireland shirt considering the players we have about.
:lol:
I've taken one of my dislikes, shan't be shifted.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 2:57 pm
by Armchair_Superstar
Liathroidigloine wrote:Dom Ryan is as good if not better a player as Reidy and far better than we have seen from either Rea or Timoney.

The two younger lads have time to improve but in terms of here and now, Ryan would start over either of them.
Wasn't offered a contract by Leinster, binned off after one season by Leinster, but that blue-specs-effect is still there.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 3:00 pm
by Luckycharmer
Sissyfuss wrote:
Luckycharmer wrote:
Sissyfuss wrote:A very cynical friend of mine from Omagh opined the following at lunchtime.

It was his opinion that more Munster folk would travel up for the final to cheer on whoever Leinster were playing against (if they win) than will travel up for the semi final involving their own team.

It don't rest easy with me Huck.
Are you playing at 8.30 tonight might have a spare Irish international (full contact before army gets his knickers in a twist) available as we have no game and a few coming down for a run around.
Our game is on at 8.30!!! Our best player just pulled a sicky! I mentioned to C'er last week that we'd like to play you but I think he was organising a crack guerilla team to take you on? Is your new player a certain fast winger?
All other teams playing at 8.30 so they couldn't really guarantee a match for us so got no interest, so a few of us helping out another team to take on medics but could have too many. So will see how we are set tonight and if 3 subs would rather more gametime in another game- how many do you have? Will see tonight as normally someone always pulls out at last minute.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 3:00 pm
by earl the beaver
unseenwork wrote:
earl the beaver wrote: Because he's really quite good and has been one of the few players to play consistently well for Ulster over that period?
Don't rate him. I'd agree with those saying he's bang average, or at least should never be within a whiff of an Ireland shirt considering the players we have about.
So you don't rate players who actually do deliver on the pitch? Interesting.

Is there anything you aren't ridiculously negative on outside of a few young prospects who we've actually yet to see play?

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 3:01 pm
by unseenwork
earl the beaver wrote:
unseenwork wrote:
earl the beaver wrote: Because he's really quite good and has been one of the few players to play consistently well for Ulster over that period?
Don't rate him. I'd agree with those saying he's bang average, or at least should never be within a whiff of an Ireland shirt considering the players we have about.
So you don't rate players who actually do deliver on the pitch? Interesting.

Is there anything you aren't ridiculously negative on outside of a few young prospects who we've actually yet to see play?
Young Kane, fine player in the making. :thumbup:

Big AOC as well.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 3:02 pm
by unseenwork
He's good enough for Ulster as things stand now but I would hope he hasn't much of a future as a starter for us.

I just struggle to see how you fit him into a well balanced backrow unless you've a freak like Coetzee on the go who can do everything.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 3:04 pm
by Armchair_Superstar
Luckycharmer wrote:
Sissyfuss wrote:A very cynical friend of mine from Omagh opined the following at lunchtime.

It was his opinion that more Munster folk would travel up for the final to cheer on whoever Leinster were playing against (if they win) than will travel up for the semi final involving their own team.

It don't rest easy with me Huck.
Are you playing at 8.30 tonight might have a spare Irish international (full contact before army gets his knickers in a twist) available as we have no game and a few coming down for a run around.
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Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 3:09 pm
by paddyor
unseenwork wrote:
earl the beaver wrote:
Liathroidigloine wrote:
earl the beaver wrote:
Liathroidigloine wrote:Dom Ryan is as good if not better a player as Reidy and far better than we have seen from either Rea or Timoney.

The two younger lads have time to improve but in terms of here and now, Ryan would start over either of them.
He is in his fúcking hoop as good as Reidy.
Reidy wouldn't start for any of the other three provinces. He is military medium.
Reidy has been called up by Joe regularly enough over the past couple of seasons and who cares if wouldn't start for the other 3 provinces (I'd debate that for Connacht) Dom Ryan certainly wouldn't, he got his token thank you cap from Joe and he's not been seen in green since just like Noel Reid.
God knows why.
Injuries.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 3:13 pm
by irishrugbyua
hermie wrote:
irishrugbyua wrote:
hermie wrote:
irishrugbyua wrote:Rumoured Leinster Academy next season as of 16/05:

Prop
Jack Aungier(19/St. Marys/Suttonians RFC)
Michael Milne(19/Clontarf?/Birr RFC/Roscrea)

Hooker
Ronan Kelleher(20/Lansdowne/St. Michaels College)

Lock
Oisin Dowling(21/Lansdowne/St. Michaels College)
Jack Dunne(19/DUFC/St. Michaels College)
Ryan Baird(19/UCD?/St. Michaels College)

Backrow
Scott Penny(19/UCD?/St. Michaels College)

Scrumhalf
Hugh O'Sullivan(20/Clontarf/Belvedere College)
Paddy Patterson(19/UCD/Blackrock College)

Outhalf
Ciaran Frawley(20/UCD/Skerries RFC)
Harry Byrne(19/UCD/St. Michaels College)

Centre
Conor O'Brien(22/Clontarf/Mullingar RFC)
Jimmy O'Brien(21/UCD/Newbridge College)
Gavin Mullin(20/UCD/Blackrock College)
David Hawkshaw(19/Clontarf?/Belvedere College)

Back Three
Hugo Keenan(22/UCD/Blackrock College)
Jack Kelly(20/DUFC/St. Michaels College)
Michael Silvester(20/DUFC/Clongowes Wood College)
Liam Turner(19/UCD?/Blackrock College)
Tommy O'Brien?
oops, knew I had forgot someone
Which of the 3 O'Briens would you rate as the best prospect at centre?
tommy.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 3:14 pm
by Liathroidigloine
Armchair_Superstar wrote:
Liathroidigloine wrote:Dom Ryan is as good if not better a player as Reidy and far better than we have seen from either Rea or Timoney.

The two younger lads have time to improve but in terms of here and now, Ryan would start over either of them.
Wasn't offered a contract by Leinster, binned off after one season by Leinster, but that blue-specs-effect is still there.
And in 6 months time all we will hear is how it's a disgrace that Nordi isn't starting a 6/7 or 8 for Ireland and that is only because he now plays for Ulster.

Dom Ryan was a fine player for Leinster picking up over 100 caps at a time when we had Heaslip, Jennings, O'Brien, Ruddock etc knocking around. He just got passed out by better players, no shame in that. He never really got going with Leicester due to a bad concussion that he picked up in September.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 3:15 pm
by Liathroidigloine
Leinster V Munster is sold out.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 3:16 pm
by irishrugbyua
ryan was very average for leinster at the end.. lost a lot of explosiveness and athelticism thru injury.. and that was his game.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 3:18 pm
by Armchair_Superstar
Liathroidigloine wrote:
Armchair_Superstar wrote:
Liathroidigloine wrote:Dom Ryan is as good if not better a player as Reidy and far better than we have seen from either Rea or Timoney.

The two younger lads have time to improve but in terms of here and now, Ryan would start over either of them.
Wasn't offered a contract by Leinster, binned off after one season by Leinster, but that blue-specs-effect is still there.
And in 6 months time all we will hear is how it's a disgrace that Nordi isn't starting a 6/7 or 8 for Ireland and that is only because he now plays for Ulster.

Dom Ryan was a fine player for Leinster picking up over 100 caps at a time when we had Heaslip, Jennings, O'Brien, Ruddock etc knocking around. He just got passed out by better players, no shame in that. He never really got going with Leicester due to a bad concussion that he picked up in September.
Tell me more about imaginary situations six months in the future, or the career of Dom Ryan before he got cut by 2 big clubs in 2 seasons.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 3:20 pm
by Nolanator
What is Dippy doing these days?

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 3:21 pm
by Armchair_Superstar
Nolanator wrote:What is Dippy doing these days?
Getting a wristy the next time he's in Longford.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 3:22 pm
by Liathroidigloine
Armchair_Superstar wrote:
Nolanator wrote:What is Dippy doing these days?
Getting a wristy the next time he's in Longford.
I'd NEVER cheat on Dev.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 3:23 pm
by unseenwork
I'm taking my frustration at Ulster's pisspoor presence at the breakdown out on Reidy really. About everyone at Ulster's rubbish at that right now (other than Deysel).

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 3:25 pm
by earl the beaver
Nolanator wrote:What is Dippy doing these days?
Just finished up playing for Leicester's A team and is moving to Worcester.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 3:28 pm
by Armchair_Superstar
Liathroidigloine wrote:
Armchair_Superstar wrote:
Nolanator wrote:What is Dippy doing these days?
Getting a wristy the next time he's in Longford.
I'd NEVER cheat on Dev.
:lol: :thumbup:

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 3:31 pm
by Sissyfuss
Luckycharmer wrote:
Sissyfuss wrote:
Luckycharmer wrote:
Sissyfuss wrote:A very cynical friend of mine from Omagh opined the following at lunchtime.

It was his opinion that more Munster folk would travel up for the final to cheer on whoever Leinster were playing against (if they win) than will travel up for the semi final involving their own team.

It don't rest easy with me Huck.
Are you playing at 8.30 tonight might have a spare Irish international (full contact before army gets his knickers in a twist) available as we have no game and a few coming down for a run around.
Our game is on at 8.30!!! Our best player just pulled a sicky! I mentioned to C'er last week that we'd like to play you but I think he was organising a crack guerilla team to take you on? Is your new player a certain fast winger?
All other teams playing at 8.30 so they couldn't really guarantee a match for us so got no interest, so a few of us helping out another team to take on medics but could have too many. So will see how we are set tonight and if 3 subs would rather more gametime in another game- how many do you have? Will see tonight as normally someone always pulls out at last minute.
We have 9 Gallant Gaels.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 3:48 pm
by Liathroidigloine
What the fudge are we going to do until September?

We have a couple of Pro 14 games and then the 3 test series against Oz (much better than the Lions :lol: ) and then nothing, a rugby wasteland for all of July and August.

Longford won't make the Super 8's so there isn't even that to look forward to.

I'm already dreading it.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 3:56 pm
by Mullet 2
Well I'm going to the second and third test 8)

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 4:00 pm
by Liathroidigloine
Mullet 2 wrote:Well I'm going to the second and third test 8)
Do it while you can!

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 4:14 pm
by Luckycharmer
Mullet 2 wrote:Well I'm going to the second and third test 8)
Lions last year, oz this year, how long are you going for?

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 4:15 pm
by DiscoHips D'Arcy
unseenwork wrote:I'm glad we didn't sign Ryan given how Rea and Timoney have come through this season.
Agreed. Ordinarily he would be great but with the two guys you mention and the youngsters he would be just another body getting gametime ahead of Hall, Dunleavy etc

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 4:15 pm
by Mullet 2
Luckycharmer wrote:
Mullet 2 wrote:Well I'm going to the second and third test 8)
Lions last year, oz this year, how long are you going for?

two weeks

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 4:16 pm
by hermie
That Melbourne and Sydney? Sounds like a belter of a trip

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 4:21 pm
by Bullettyme
irishrugbyua wrote:
Bullettyme wrote:Suppose there's quite a bit on this week and weekend for the Munster support; Rolling Stones, Ed Sheeran and a chance to jump on the bandwagon in the CL final.
CL final is saturday week.
Oh yeah.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 4:21 pm
by DiscoHips D'Arcy
unseenwork wrote:I'm taking my frustration at Ulster's pisspoor presence at the breakdown out on Reidy really. About everyone at Ulster's rubbish at that right now (other than Deysel).
jesus thats harsh. I'd agree he isnt a turnover machine but he makes his tackles, usually able to stop them, runs great support lines, has good hands and runs at soft shoulders which is something we seem to have been unable (thankfully) to coach out of him. Shouldn't get near a green shirt but very useful player. Lightyears ahead of Dom Ryan i have to agree.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 4:21 pm
by Armchair_Superstar
Mullet 2 wrote:
Luckycharmer wrote:
Mullet 2 wrote:Well I'm going to the second and third test 8)
Lions last year, oz this year, how long are you going for?

two weeks
Treasure these moments :lol: