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Hellraiser wrote:

irishrugbyua wrote:

earl the beaver wrote:

irishrugbyua wrote:

On his future beyond the 2018/19 season, Fardy added: “We will see what happens with that. There are a lot of things that have to happen with it being a centralised contract system.

“It is completely out of my control. I am enjoying it here in Dublin. I would like to stay, if I could. We will see what happens.”

hopefully irfu allow leinster to give him a 2 year deal after next.. great player to have during pro 14 and in the dressing room

I will genuinely be spitting feathers if that is allowed.

why? leinster are producing homegrown players and are the bulk supplier to ireland.. they dont get any allowances for that?

please.

You weren't allowed give Hines one why would Fardy be allowed one.

We were allowed offer Hines a contract. Just not one longer than a year.

Eh, yeah. A two year deal is what irua stated.

Wasn't Fardy signed as a lock? Now he's moved towards the back row it's like a totally new signing.

Hellraiser wrote:Eh, yeah. A two year deal is what irua stated.

It was unclear what you meant given I assumed Earl was talking about not being allowed keep Pienaar at all.

CM11 wrote:

Hellraiser wrote:Eh, yeah. A two year deal is what irua stated.

It was unclear what you meant given I assumed Earl was talking about not being allowed keep Pienaar at all.

same

Hellraiser wrote:

irishrugbyua wrote:

earl the beaver wrote:

irishrugbyua wrote:

On his future beyond the 2018/19 season, Fardy added: “We will see what happens with that. There are a lot of things that have to happen with it being a centralised contract system.

“It is completely out of my control. I am enjoying it here in Dublin. I would like to stay, if I could. We will see what happens.”

hopefully irfu allow leinster to give him a 2 year deal after next.. great player to have during pro 14 and in the dressing room

I will genuinely be spitting feathers if that is allowed.

why? leinster are producing homegrown players and are the bulk supplier to ireland.. they dont get any allowances for that?

please.

You weren't allowed give Hines one why would Fardy be allowed one.

not being allowed give hines two years was a mistake.

paddyor wrote:

irishrugbyua wrote:

On his future beyond the 2018/19 season, Fardy added: “We will see what happens with that. There are a lot of things that have to happen with it being a centralised contract system.

“It is completely out of my control. I am enjoying it here in Dublin. I would like to stay, if I could. We will see what happens.”

hopefully irfu allow leinster to give him a 2 year deal after next.. great player to have during pro 14 and in the dressing room

Think it kind of depends on who we sign with out free NIQ spot. If we get someone experienced to fill the leadership vacuum then we might not have the leeway. OTOH, we're going to be missing an entire tight 5 (a pack really when you factor retirements and transfers) and replacements come the start of the 2019 season. Probably why Nagle and kearney are being kept.

if start of 2019 we have molony/fardy.. we can blood the academy locks. nagle/kearney are so poor.

alliswell wrote:Wasn't Fardy signed as a lock? Now he's moved towards the back row it's like a totally new signing.

what do you mean? he has been excellent at both positions.. back to fulltime lock next season bar another injury crisis.

Agreed ..... I’d rather have josh Murphy and one of the academy locks pressed into action in the second row, than give any further game time to Nagle in particular

irishrugbyua wrote:

paddyor wrote:

irishrugbyua wrote:

On his future beyond the 2018/19 season, Fardy added: “We will see what happens with that. There are a lot of things that have to happen with it being a centralised contract system.

“It is completely out of my control. I am enjoying it here in Dublin. I would like to stay, if I could. We will see what happens.”

hopefully irfu allow leinster to give him a 2 year deal after next.. great player to have during pro 14 and in the dressing room

Think it kind of depends on who we sign with out free NIQ spot. If we get someone experienced to fill the leadership vacuum then we might not have the leeway. OTOH, we're going to be missing an entire tight 5 (a pack really when you factor retirements and transfers) and replacements come the start of the 2019 season. Probably why Nagle and kearney are being kept.

if start of 2019 we have molony/fardy.. we can blood the academy locks. nagle/kearney are so poor.

Yeah they're not great. But it would be too cute by half to bin 2 IQ locks and throw your hands up at the IRFU saying we really need to keep this guy. We're still going to need them while the academy lads develop too.

Speaking of which, the U23 a comp next season should be good for that(assuming there's a few more games than the B&I). Has there been any more announced on that?

paddyor wrote:

irishrugbyua wrote:

paddyor wrote:

irishrugbyua wrote:

On his future beyond the 2018/19 season, Fardy added: “We will see what happens with that. There are a lot of things that have to happen with it being a centralised contract system.

“It is completely out of my control. I am enjoying it here in Dublin. I would like to stay, if I could. We will see what happens.”

hopefully irfu allow leinster to give him a 2 year deal after next.. great player to have during pro 14 and in the dressing room

Think it kind of depends on who we sign with out free NIQ spot. If we get someone experienced to fill the leadership vacuum then we might not have the leeway. OTOH, we're going to be missing an entire tight 5 (a pack really when you factor retirements and transfers) and replacements come the start of the 2019 season. Probably why Nagle and kearney are being kept.

if start of 2019 we have molony/fardy.. we can blood the academy locks. nagle/kearney are so poor.

Yeah they're not great. But it would be too cute by half to bin 2 IQ locks and throw your hands up at the IRFU saying we really need to keep this guy. We're still going to need them while the academy lads develop too.

Speaking of which, the U23 a comp next season should be good for that(assuming there's a few more games than the B&I). Has there been any more announced on that?

nothing announced.. its u23 but with allowances for older players as far as i know.

fair point on trying to keep fardy and getting rid of nagle/kearney.. but the irfu know they arent good enough too.. you point to the young locks in the academy and mention how good an influence fardy would be on them as they develop into potential internationals.. by all accounts fardy has been a great influence on the likes of Ryan, Leavy, Porter.

I think Baird in particular is going to be a cracking player ..... one season in the academy and he’ll be light years ahead of where Nagle is right now IMO

Very few Leinster fans would be aware of him but he’ll amaze them with his speed ..... I’d say he’d do most of our wingers over 50m

Problem is he’s too athletic if anything ..... needs to bulk up considerably (like jack Dunne)

Nagle has all the physical attributes but is useless unfortunately

Property sales going well, obviously. Enjoy, ya prick.

irishrugbyua wrote:

alliswell wrote:Wasn't Fardy signed as a lock? Now he's moved towards the back row it's like a totally new signing.

what do you mean? he has been excellent at both positions.. back to fulltime lock next season bar another injury crisis.

It was a clunky joke. Now I feel sad.

irishrugbyua wrote:

paddyor wrote:Yeah they're not great. But it would be too cute by half to bin 2 IQ locks and throw your hands up at the IRFU saying we really need to keep this guy. We're still going to need them while the academy lads develop too.

Speaking of which, the U23 a comp next season should be good for that(assuming there's a few more games than the B&I). Has there been any more announced on that?

nothing announced.. its u23 but with allowances for older players as far as i know.

fair point on trying to keep fardy and getting rid of nagle/kearney.. but the irfu know they arent good enough too.. you point to the young locks in the academy and mention how good an influence fardy would be on them as they develop into potential internationals.. by all accounts fardy has been a great influence on the likes of Ryan, Leavy, Porter.

No harm in reminding them! They're squad players(5th and 6th choice) and ideally wouldn't start any games together but we still need them for injuries and to cover the LEague/cup NIQ playing restriction. The guys in the academy seem a bit young for the position just yet(I know nothing about them tbh).

paddyor wrote:

irishrugbyua wrote:

paddyor wrote:Yeah they're not great. But it would be too cute by half to bin 2 IQ locks and throw your hands up at the IRFU saying we really need to keep this guy. We're still going to need them while the academy lads develop too.

Speaking of which, the U23 a comp next season should be good for that(assuming there's a few more games than the B&I). Has there been any more announced on that?

nothing announced.. its u23 but with allowances for older players as far as i know.

fair point on trying to keep fardy and getting rid of nagle/kearney.. but the irfu know they arent good enough too.. you point to the young locks in the academy and mention how good an influence fardy would be on them as they develop into potential internationals.. by all accounts fardy has been a great influence on the likes of Ryan, Leavy, Porter.

No harm in reminding them! They're squad players(5th and 6th choice) and ideally wouldn't start any games together but we still need them for injuries and to cover the LEague/cup NIQ playing restriction. The guys in the academy seem a bit young for the position just yet(I know nothing about them tbh).

Yeah the academy lads wont be ready for next season, although if Dowling(21) could make his debut next season... depends on how he progresses. I'd be interested to see if Josh Murphy(23) is tried at lock too, played there some for the A team.

rfurlong wrote:I think Baird in particular is going to be a cracking player ..... one season in the academy and he’ll be light years ahead of where Nagle is right now IMO

Very few Leinster fans would be aware of him but he’ll amaze them with his speed ..... I’d say he’d do most of our wingers over 50m

Problem is he’s too athletic if anything ..... needs to bulk up considerably (like jack Dunne)

Nagle has all the physical attributes but is useless unfortunately

Yeah Baird could progress quickly. Dunne more of a slow burner, while not sure what future Dowling has.

Would be bringing in Daly this summer too, has been better than Kearney for Clontarf by all accounts.

Jonno Gibbes going to be interviewed for the La Rochelle job seemingly

Ulster will be under-strength for Sunday’s make-or-break Champions Cup playoff against Ospreys.

As expected, a knee injury will keep Iain Henderson out of the contest and the BBC today report that a training ground injury for Rory Best could prevent the Ireland captain from influencing the result.

The 35-year-old picked up a hamstring issue in training yesterday and has been sent for a scan on the issue.

Banana Man wrote:Jonno Gibbes going to be interviewed for the La Rochelle job seemingly

So he just couldn't stand Ulster then?
Fair enough I suppose. Any outsider having to endure that season on and off the pitch would be well within their rights to run to the hills.

Jim Lahey wrote:

Banana Man wrote:Jonno Gibbes going to be interviewed for the La Rochelle job seemingly

So he just couldn't stand Ulster then?
Fair enough I suppose. Any outsider having to endure that season on and off the pitch would be well within their rights to run to the hills.

Although he was at least partly culpable for the on-pitch stuff, and it was his actual job to fix it.

No Best or Hendo, this could be a reaming.

Armchair_Superstar wrote:No Best or Hendo, this could be a reaming.

I’m an Ulster supporter of 30 years and I genuinely want to be in the Challenge Cup next year. It looks like we’re “re-setting” the playing squad with a focus on promoting from the academy, so don’t tell me those guys need to be playing against Racing/ Saracens so soon. We might lose some revenue for a year, but it might actually help us progresss from being a shitshow for the first time since 2012.

NorthWestRugby wrote:

Armchair_Superstar wrote:No Best or Hendo, this could be a reaming.

I’m an Ulster supporter of 30 years and I genuinely want to be in the Challenge Cup next year. It looks like we’re “re-setting” the playing squad with a focus on promoting from the academy, so don’t tell me those guys need to be playing against Racing/ Saracens so soon. We might lose some revenue for a year, but it might actually help us progresss from being a shitshow for the first time since 2012.

Nah. I still think being in the top comp is very useful for player development. Leinster gave 6 European debuts against Bath in 15/16 and that certainly helped those players along. Think it was Ringrose who mentioned it after the weekend, it gave him is first taste of intense rugby.

NorthWestRugby wrote:

Armchair_Superstar wrote:No Best or Hendo, this could be a reaming.

I’m an Ulster supporter of 30 years and I genuinely want to be in the Challenge Cup next year. It looks like we’re “re-setting” the playing squad with a focus on promoting from the academy, so don’t tell me those guys need to be playing against Racing/ Saracens so soon. We might lose some revenue for a year, but it might actually help us progresss from being a shitshow for the first time since 2012.

If playing in the CHampions Cup is the difference between getting a Retallick as opposed to a Grobler then by fudge do we need the Champs cup. That said i think we deserve what we will get wherever we end up.

*i dont think retallick is a an option btw but more to make a point

Banana Man wrote:Jonno Gibbes going to be interviewed for the La Rochelle job seemingly

What a shitshow Ravenhill must be at the moment

You lot would be a lot better off if you'd a Grobler standard player, he's quality.

First time on since last weekend, congrats Leinster. By far the best team in Europe all year

Hopefully this interview is after the Ospreys game.

Armchair_Superstar wrote:No Best or Hendo, this could be a reaming.

BWAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHA! We will certainly be shitter than Ulster.

Jeff the Bear wrote:

Armchair_Superstar wrote:No Best or Hendo, this could be a reaming.

BWAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHA! We will certainly be shitter than Ulster.

Nah not a chance, we don't even have Clive Ross fit.

IMO if Gibbes signs for La Rochelle he's a twat.

crouchy wrote:IMO if Gibbes signs for La Rochelle he's a twat.

He is a liar at the very least

Winnie wrote:

crouchy wrote:IMO if Gibbes signs for La Rochelle he's a twat.

He is a liar at the very least

He's also fúcked over any possible future employment by the IRFU.

But do you really want a coach that very obviously doesn't want to be there ? And that is Ulsters big problem, the atmosphere is obviously poisonous.

He triggered a contractual out and it suited both parties not to investigate the trigger too carefully.

https://www.rte.ie/sport/rugby/2018/051 ... -the-year/


Well deserved. Might not have bagged as many tries as Stockdale(young player of the year) or others provincially but he's been brilliant this year.

Had a google of Conor Nash there. Still hasn't played a pro game in the AFL.....

camroc1 wrote:

Winnie wrote:

crouchy wrote:IMO if Gibbes signs for La Rochelle he's a twat.

He is a liar at the very least

He's also fúcked over any possible future employment by the IRFU.

But do you really want a coach that very obviously doesn't want to be there ? And that is Ulsters big problem, the atmosphere is obviously poisonous.

He triggered a contractual out and it suited both parties not to investigate the trigger too carefully.

Our CEO came out and said the circumstances under which he continued on here were harrowing and he deserved great credit for it. If he takes another European role im not sure that stands up. This is why things are toxic. There is zero trust between players and fans and management.

well done Earls, well deserved. Stockdale too albeit Ryan has a decent sized claim to it.

paddyor wrote:Had a google of Conor Nash there. Still hasn't played a pro game in the AFL.....

he has been playing 2nd tier tho.. i wouldnt hold my breath waiting on him to return unfortunately.

DiscoHips D'Arcy wrote:

camroc1 wrote:

Winnie wrote:

crouchy wrote:IMO if Gibbes signs for La Rochelle he's a twat.

He is a liar at the very least

He's also fúcked over any possible future employment by the IRFU.

But do you really want a coach that very obviously doesn't want to be there ? And that is Ulsters big problem, the atmosphere is obviously poisonous.

He triggered a contractual out and it suited both parties not to investigate the trigger too carefully.

Our CEO came out and said the circumstances under which he continued on here were harrowing and he deserved great credit for it. If he takes another European role im not sure that stands up. This is why things are toxic. There is zero trust between players and fans and management.

well done Earls, well deserved. Stockdale too albeit Ryan has a decent sized claim to it.

Meh, Stockdale was always going to win it. Whilst Ryan has been superb, Jacob beat a longstanding record as top try scorer and won player of the championship by a considerable margin.

He was always going to win Young player.

It's pretty impressive to go from youngster without a single minute of pro rugby to indisputably Ireland's best lock since POC in the space of a season though.

Diego wrote:It's pretty impressive to go from youngster without a single minute of pro rugby to indisputably Ireland's best lock since POC in the space of a season though.

You'll get a few with that.