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DiscoHips D'Arcy wrote:
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IMO if Gibbes signs for La Rochelle he's a twat.

He is a liar at the very least

He's also fúcked over any possible future employment by the IRFU.

But do you really want a coach that very obviously doesn't want to be there ? And that is Ulsters big problem, the atmosphere is obviously poisonous.

He triggered a contractual out and it suited both parties not to investigate the trigger too carefully.


Our CEO came out and said the circumstances under which he continued on here were harrowing and he deserved great credit for it. If he takes another European role im not sure that stands up. This is why things are toxic. There is zero trust between players and fans and management.

well done Earls, well deserved. Stockdale too albeit Ryan has a decent sized claim to it.

Meh, Stockdale was always going to win it. Whilst Ryan has been superb, Jacob beat a longstanding record as top try scorer and won player of the championship by a considerable margin.

He was always going to win Young player.


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It's pretty impressive to go from youngster without a single minute of pro rugby to indisputably Ireland's best lock since POC in the space of a season though.


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It's pretty impressive to go from youngster without a single minute of pro rugby to indisputably Ireland's best lock since POC in the space of a season though.

You'll get a few with that.


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It's pretty impressive to go from youngster without a single minute of pro rugby to indisputably Ireland's best lock since POC in the space of a season though.

You'll get a few with that.

Why? I'm not fishing. :?


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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2018 8:29 am 
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Diego wrote:
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It's pretty impressive to go from youngster without a single minute of pro rugby to indisputably Ireland's best lock since POC in the space of a season though.

You'll get a few with that.

Why? I'm not fishing. :?


You're a tease. But he certainly will be anyway


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Diego wrote:
It's pretty impressive to go from youngster without a single minute of pro rugby to indisputably Ireland's best lock since POC in the space of a season though.


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It's pretty impressive to go from youngster without a single minute of pro rugby to indisputably Ireland's best lock since POC in the space of a season though.


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Diego wrote:
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It's pretty impressive to go from youngster without a single minute of pro rugby to indisputably Ireland's best lock since POC in the space of a season though.

You'll get a few with that.

Why? I'm not fishing. :?


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IMO if Gibbes signs for La Rochelle he's a twat.


Going from forwards coach at a shit club to top coach at a top club. I really hope you aren´t a careers guidance councillor although it might help explain the Northern Irish economy.


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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2018 8:41 am 
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Keith Earls - POTY
Jacob Stockdale - Younh POTY
Bundee Aki - Fans player of year(public vote)


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Keith Earls - POTY
Jacob Stockdale - Younh POTY
Bundee Aki - Fans player of year(public vote)


That will have Franno choking on his porridge


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The fans vote :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown:


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He has been class for Ireland tbf. Won't get his game with the European Champion Ringshaw fit though.


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Porterbelly1 wrote:
irishrugbyua wrote:
Keith Earls - POTY
Jacob Stockdale - Younh POTY
Bundee Aki - Fans player of year(public vote)


That will have Franno choking on his porridge



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camroc1 wrote:
Porterbelly1 wrote:
irishrugbyua wrote:
Keith Earls - POTY
Jacob Stockdale - Younh POTY
Bundee Aki - Fans player of year(public vote)


That will have Franno choking on his porridge



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Whats the 4 star thing about?


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Apparently Will Connors is staying with Leinster.


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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2018 9:14 am 
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Devin Toner is occasionally hidden-in-plain-sight on a rugby pitch, eclipsed by more eye-catching contributions from his team-mates but they are the very people who would never overlook or underestimate the input and impact of the six foot, eleven inch secondrow.

Toner, who along with Cian Healy, Isa Nacewa and Johnny Sexton equalled the record of four European Cup wins previously jointly held by former France internationals Cédric Heymans and Fréderic Michalak, played more minutes (673) than any other Leinster player in this season’s tournament and was only one of two players – tighthead prop Tadhg Furlong was the other – who started in all nine matches.

It’s an achievement that represents remarkable physical endurance given the nature of the matches and calibre of the opposition especially for a player with a voracious workload on both sides of the ball. Only two players Jack Conan (86) and Robbie Henshaw (83) made more tackles than Toner’s final tally (79).

The secondrow played all bar 47 of the maximum 720 minutes from the nine matches while other numbers that define his input is that he claimed Leinster’s most lineout steals and lineouts won (36), the third-highest in the competition behind Munster’s Peter O’Mahony (42) and Racing 92 and 2018 European player-of-the-year Leone Nakawara (38).


Towering Toner. :smug:


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Apparently Will Connors is staying with Leinster.


Development deal?


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According to the official statistics James Ryan (74) did not miss a single tackle in the five matches in which he started and the four when introduced as a replacement.


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Jack Conan was very honest in assessing the areas of his game that needed to be improved a little and one of those he highlighted was his work-rate in defence. He honoured this commitment leading the team in tackles (86) despite starting only six matches.


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Liathroidigloine wrote:
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Apparently Will Connors is staying with Leinster.


Development deal?


Dunno.. wait and see, i'm still somewhat skeptical, given he was absent from yesterdays announcement.


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According to the official statistics James Ryan (74) did not miss a single tackle in the five matches in which he started and the four when introduced as a replacement.


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Jack Conan was very honest in assessing the areas of his game that needed to be improved a little and one of those he highlighted was his work-rate in defence. He honoured this commitment leading the team in tackles (86) despite starting only six matches.


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Conan's stats were incredible up to about Christmas. He was in unreal form. Tailed off a bit but would be starting him this weekend for sure.


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Cummiskey reporting that Furlong is the 3rd highest paid player in the country behind Sexton/Murray.


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Toner is like a good whiskey, gets better with age :nod:


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The likes of Ian Keatley, Rory Scannell, Niall Scannell, Ultan Dillane, Josh van der Flier, Dave Kilcoyne, Sam Arnold and Luke McGrath were recognised at the Zurich Irish Rugby Awards ceremony in Dublin on Wednesday night.

Ireland head coach Joe Schmidt presented some of the players from Ireland's wider Six Nations squad with winners' medals and thanked them for their contributions to the Grand Slam success.

McGrath and van der Flier were both at the ceremony and accepted their medals, which were obtained by Ireland's director of operations Ger Carmody. Schmidt commented:

"Josh was on the pitch [against France] and a few of the guys were very close to the pitch. Luke was on the bench for that France game but didn't get on."


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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2018 9:28 am 
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I love the way he says ´Luke was on the bench but didn´t get on´. Its almost like he had nothing to do with that decision :lol:


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Toner is like a good whiskey, gets better with age :nod:



You cant detach him from the success his teams have had. Obviously i'd prefer a Hendo/Ryan partnership in green but Toner deserves a serious amount of credit. 3 6N titles now is it? Was he involved in Leinsters 2009 run as well? Big ungainly fecker but very likeable


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boringperson12 wrote:
Toner is like a good whiskey, gets better with age :nod:


Yup, give it another decade and at this rate and he could become an average international lock :thumbup:


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I'd say Toner will be proudest by far with this year's medal. Wasn't centrally involved in the other wins.


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I'd say Toner will be proudest by far with this year's medal. Wasn't centrally involved in the other wins.


yeah he has said as much.


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I'd say Toner will be proudest by far with this year's medal. Wasn't centrally involved in the other wins.


yeah he has said as much.


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DiscoHips D'Arcy wrote:
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Toner is like a good whiskey, gets better with age :nod:



You cant detach him from the success his teams have had. Obviously i'd prefer a Hendo/Ryan partnership in green but Toner deserves a serious amount of credit. 3 6N titles now is it? Was he involved in Leinsters 2009 run as well? Big ungainly fecker but very likeable


Yeah he was the bench lock back in 2009. Don't think he played a whole pile though tbh.

Started all 9 games for Leinster this season in the Spiv Cup. Only himself and Furlong did that I think.


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Toner actually looks more dynamic and powerful this year, has Lancaster got the Leinster forwards to slimdown? Healy and Cronin have mentioned dropping some pounds this season.


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danthefan wrote:
DiscoHips D'Arcy wrote:
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Toner is like a good whiskey, gets better with age :nod:



You cant detach him from the success his teams have had. Obviously i'd prefer a Hendo/Ryan partnership in green but Toner deserves a serious amount of credit. 3 6N titles now is it? Was he involved in Leinsters 2009 run as well? Big ungainly fecker but very likeable


Yeah he was the bench lock back in 2009. Don't think he played a whole pile though tbh.

Started all 9 games for Leinster this season in the Spiv Cup. Only himself and Furlong did that I think.


Going to be some dog fight for second row from now on.

James Ryan plus one of Henderson, Toner or Beirne.


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Toner actually looks more dynamic and powerful this year, has Lancaster got the Leinster forwards to slimdown? Healy and Cronin have mentioned dropping some pounds this season.


got Toner to slim down anyway, could have gotten others.


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Furlong looked "off" on Saturday. I watched the game back to see was my first impression wrong (it often is) but there was little in the way of carries or those huge tackles he made in other games. He hasn't been over played so unlikely that it's fatigue, could be carrying a knock.


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Furlong looked "off" on Saturday. I watched the game back to see was my first impression wrong (it often is) but there was little in the way of carries or those huge tackles he made in other games. He hasn't been over played so unlikely that it's fatigue, could be carrying a knock.

Fair play to you for watching that back but yeah he seriously under-performed by his own standards.


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danthefan wrote:
DiscoHips D'Arcy wrote:
boringperson12 wrote:
Toner is like a good whiskey, gets better with age :nod:



You cant detach him from the success his teams have had. Obviously i'd prefer a Hendo/Ryan partnership in green but Toner deserves a serious amount of credit. 3 6N titles now is it? Was he involved in Leinsters 2009 run as well? Big ungainly fecker but very likeable


Yeah he was the bench lock back in 2009. Don't think he played a whole pile though tbh.

Started all 9 games for Leinster this season in the Spiv Cup. Only himself and Furlong did that I think.


I love the way you quote things you saw in a newspaper article as if you´d just thought of them yourself


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Furlong looked "off" on Saturday. I watched the game back to see was my first impression wrong (it often is) but there was little in the way of carries or those huge tackles he made in other games. He hasn't been over played so unlikely that it's fatigue, could be carrying a knock.

Fair play to you for watching that back but yeah he seriously under-performed by his own standards.


Woke up at 3am and went looking for something to put me back to sleep. I was listening to EOS on the radio on Monday and Gilroy(?) was praising Iiribaren. EOS politely said that while his kicking was excellent, he killed all momentum that Racing had through his glacial decision making. That tactic might have worked in the past but Racing were unable to bully the Leinster pack and that is why they eventually lost.


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Liathroidigloine wrote:
Furlong looked "off" on Saturday. I watched the game back to see was my first impression wrong (it often is) but there was little in the way of carries or those huge tackles he made in other games. He hasn't been over played so unlikely that it's fatigue, could be carrying a knock.

Fair play to you for watching that back but yeah he seriously under-performed by his own standards.

Was listening to Luke Fitz's podcast this morning and they were commenting on Furlong being quieter than usual. They discussed whether Leinster were a bit cautious of overplaying things in the face of Racing's excellent defense, and so some guys were more restricted to close in work than in other games. Probably an element of that, plus the conditions, too.


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Ulsters - Will Henderson be fit for Australia? If its just a tweak he'd be out 3-4 weeks? Havent heard it was a tear....


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