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Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2018 10:09 am
by Brumby_in_Vic
They are basically going to buy the competition and pay back the owner's debts.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2018 10:21 am
by hermie
RichieRich89 wrote:Cullen didn't pick Ringrose either. He went for 12. Fitzgerald, 13. Te'o as his preferred centre partnership in the European pool stages. When they were unavailable first up against Wasps he picked Reid and McFadden together, if memory serves. Ringrose got 10 minutes off the bench in that game and a start at home to Bath when Leinster were already out

Although that's not to say that MOC was right in his approach. Cullen was quite conservative before Lancaster came in. From memory, I think Adam Byrne only made three appearances in Cullen's first year
Eh, one of the first things Cullen did was pick Ringrose :?

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2018 10:30 am
by danthefan
Brumby_in_Vic wrote:They are basically going to buy the competition and pay back the owner's debts.
How do they make money from it, media rights?

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2018 10:38 am
by FravBront
El Homerino wrote:Please please please someone suggest a decent streaming site. I'm back in Nam and nearly got demented trying to watch games last season :((
You live in Vietnam?

99% sure that Rugbypass is available there

Its excellent. I think maybe 20$ p/m and you get a massive range of live games, club and intl, as well as full game catchup or 10 mins highlights of every game.

App itself isn't amazing, and the highlights can be slightly stuttery between clips, but all in all its very good

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2018 10:42 am
by Nolanator
Or just search for vipleague and go to whatever their latest address is. Fight off a couple of pop-ups and you'll get a decent quality stream. Big games usually have a high quality option, too.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2018 10:56 am
by RichieRich89
danthefan wrote:
RichieRich89 wrote:Cullen didn't pick Ringrose either. He went for 12. Fitzgerald, 13. Te'o as his preferred centre partnership in the European pool stages. When they were unavailable first up against Wasps he picked Reid and McFadden together, if memory serves. Ringrose got 10 minutes off the bench in that game and a start at home to Bath when Leinster were already out

Although that's not to say that MOC was right in his approach. Cullen was quite conservative before Lancaster came in. From memory, I think Adam Byrne only made three appearances in Cullen's first year
14/15 season for Ringrose - 0 minutes played
15/16 season for Ringrose - 1500+ minutes played
Conclusion - Ringrose didn't get picked in the latter season, just like the former!

Honestly, are you soft in the head?
And O'Loughlin went from 0 mins in Cullen's first season to 1211 mins in Lancaster's first season. What's your point, like? Players just sometimes make a breakthrough

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2018 10:56 am
by anonymous_joe
Does Rugbypass work in Ireland for the Pro 14? Or is it geolocked to protect those cúnts in Eir.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2018 11:07 am
by FravBront
Nolanator wrote:Or just search for vipleague and go to whatever their latest address is. Fight off a couple of pop-ups and you'll get a decent quality stream. Big games usually have a high quality option, too.
Well worth the 20 USD per month in my opinion.

Don't have to spend the time searching for often shitty links, that half the time cut out, especially with the usually not great internet in SEAsia.

I struggled on doing what you recommended for a few years in Asia, then RP came into my life and it was so much f**king better.

I swear i dont work for them! I just think theyre great and want them to a) do well and b) not shut down

:thumbup:

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2018 11:10 am
by FravBront
anonymous_joe wrote:Does Rugbypass work in Ireland for the Pro 14? Or is it geolocked to protect those cúnts in Eir.
I think you can get it, but you'd have to do some fancy computer stuff that i couldnt be arsed with, but if you could it'd be well worth it.

Does all the big games.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2018 11:14 am
by CM11
Army, what has Schmidt got to do with this? I wasn't talking about Ringrose becoming first choice, just getting more of an introduction in the league. And there was nothing stopping him introducing Ringrose the same way Cullen did, on the wing.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2018 11:19 am
by danthefan
anonymous_joe wrote:Does Rugbypass work in Ireland for the Pro 14? Or is it geolocked to protect those cúnts in Eir.
Of course it's geoblocked. It's not exactly difficult to get around though.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2018 11:26 am
by anonymous_joe
VPNs are a pain in the hoop.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2018 12:48 pm
by CM11

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2018 12:49 pm
by Sissyfuss
anonymous_joe wrote:VPNs are a pain in the hoop.
Cobblers. You get what you pay for. Expressvpn is top class. So simple my 14 year old daughter uses it on her devices. Pissing about with freebies be they streams or free vpns is an utter waste of time.

For the price of a 6 pack of beer a month you have Expressvpn.

Hope that helps.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2018 1:15 pm
by Armchair_Superstar
CM11 wrote:Army, what has Schmidt got to do with this? I wasn't talking about Ringrose becoming first choice, just getting more of an introduction in the league. And there was nothing stopping him introducing Ringrose the same way Cullen did, on the wing.
Schmidt has quite a lot to do with it considering it was a RWC year and Leinster had a lot of centre options in contention all looking for game time.

This is before you consider the likes of McFadden and Daverage in the squad looking for gametime on the wing.

MOC was already under pressure over the league form which meant he had to double down and try and hit top 4 any way he could. He also managed to take Toulon into extra time thanks to a try-saving intervention by the much-maligned Jimmy Gopperth.

Obviously it is easy to forget the hysteria that MOC was causing at the time and the complete loss of perspective that took place.

Cullen has done a great job at Leinster but he had no alternative but to start the kids in 2015, with half the squad at the RWC. Another thing that is now forgotten is the way the senior players in the Leinster squad performed in Europe that year - people were saying they looked like they didn't want to be there. Sexton was highly critical of the squad environment in 2016 and singled out the youngsters who were still putting the requisite amount of effort in.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2018 1:53 pm
by irishrugbyua
:lol: :lol: arguing about MOC

meanwhile Leinster just won the double. :smug:

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2018 1:53 pm
by Armchair_Superstar
irishrugbyua wrote::lol: :lol: arguing about MOC

meanwhile Leinster just won the double. :smug:
Shouldn't you be copying and pasting something?

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2018 1:59 pm
by Witchfinder General
Armchair_Superstar wrote:
irishrugbyua wrote::lol: :lol: arguing about MOC

meanwhile Leinster just won the double. :smug:
Shouldn't you be copying and pasting something?
Heres one especially for Earl :D

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/rugby/ ... -1.3618318

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2018 2:44 pm
by paddyor
RichieRich89 wrote:
danthefan wrote:
RichieRich89 wrote:Cullen didn't pick Ringrose either. He went for 12. Fitzgerald, 13. Te'o as his preferred centre partnership in the European pool stages. When they were unavailable first up against Wasps he picked Reid and McFadden together, if memory serves. Ringrose got 10 minutes off the bench in that game and a start at home to Bath when Leinster were already out

Although that's not to say that MOC was right in his approach. Cullen was quite conservative before Lancaster came in. From memory, I think Adam Byrne only made three appearances in Cullen's first year
14/15 season for Ringrose - 0 minutes played
15/16 season for Ringrose - 1500+ minutes played
Conclusion - Ringrose didn't get picked in the latter season, just like the former!

Honestly, are you soft in the head?
And O'Loughlin went from 0 mins in Cullen's first season to 1211 mins in Lancaster's first season. What's your point, like? Players just sometimes make a breakthrough
He was injured for most of that season.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2018 2:57 pm
by paddyor
Armchair_Superstar wrote:
CM11 wrote:Army, what has Schmidt got to do with this? I wasn't talking about Ringrose becoming first choice, just getting more of an introduction in the league. And there was nothing stopping him introducing Ringrose the same way Cullen did, on the wing.
Schmidt has quite a lot to do with it considering it was a RWC year and Leinster had a lot of centre options in contention all looking for game time.

This is before you consider the likes of McFadden and Daverage in the squad looking for gametime on the wing.

MOC was already under pressure over the league form which meant he had to double down and try and hit top 4 any way he could. He also managed to take Toulon into extra time thanks to a try-saving intervention by the much-maligned Jimmy Gopperth.

Obviously it is easy to forget the hysteria that MOC was causing at the time and the complete loss of perspective that took place.

Cullen has done a great job at Leinster but he had no alternative but to start the kids in 2015, with half the squad at the RWC. Another thing that is now forgotten is the way the senior players in the Leinster squad performed in Europe that year - people were saying they looked like they didn't want to be there. Sexton was highly critical of the squad environment in 2016 and singled out the youngsters who were still putting the requisite amount of effort in.
McFadden barely featured in 14/15 because of injuries and discipline. Didn’t even make the extended RWC squad IIRC.

Mocs idea of giving kids a go was to give them 2 minuets. His use of the bench was atrocious. Your argument would stack up if he hadn’t included guys in squads and never or barely used them.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2018 4:22 pm
by unseenwork
Huh so Kernohan is only now getting an academy spot, was sub academy at the start of the season.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2018 4:33 pm
by Ulsters Red Hand
unseenwork wrote:Huh so Kernohan is only now getting an academy spot, was sub academy at the start of the season.
Is he the new Kieran Read?

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2018 4:35 pm
by unseenwork
Ulsters Red Hand wrote:
unseenwork wrote:Huh so Kernohan is only now getting an academy spot, was sub academy at the start of the season.
Is he the new Kieran Read?
It wouldn't be entirely appropriate for a winger but you never know! He does look a sizeable lad for 19.

Had never seen much in him before now though.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2018 4:41 pm
by hermie
Ulsters Red Hand wrote:
unseenwork wrote:Huh so Kernohan is only now getting an academy spot, was sub academy at the start of the season.
Is he the new Kieran Read?
Banter

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2018 6:39 pm
by LandOTurk
Just posted similar on the Welsh thread. We have 4 x AI, 5 x 6N, 4 x Warmup, 4 x RWC + potentially 3 knockout games in 12 months. 20 games. I will have my fill and some.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2018 8:42 pm
by Porterbelly1
Hat trick for Sevu Reece in the Mitre 10 Cup

He doesn't look up to much defensively but is pretty electric going forward. Will be an interesting addition when he arrives.

Great to see Cian Kelleher looking like he could really kick on this year, he was excellent v Glasgow. So dangerous. Had a lot of niggles the last couple of years.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2018 9:11 pm
by Banana Man
Hart dropped to the A side for Munster

Along with Darren O Shea, Gavin Coombes

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2018 9:26 pm
by Hellraiser
Banana Man wrote:Hart dropped to the A side for Munster

Along with Darren O Shea, Gavin Coombes

Cronin to start with Matheson on the bench?

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2018 9:59 pm
by Armchair_Superstar
unseenwork wrote:Huh so Kernohan is only now getting an academy spot, was sub academy at the start of the season.
Still young at 19, although he is a big unit already. They should be bumping these lads up when they produce the goods it sends all the right messages and keeps the youngsters focussed.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2018 10:17 pm
by Conspicuous
Banana Man wrote:Hart dropped to the A side for Munster

Along with Darren O Shea, Gavin Coombes
The Con Mafia obviously had a hand in Hart’s recruitment to make Drunken look good

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2018 10:39 pm
by Flametop
What’s the story with Murray’s injury?

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2018 7:52 am
by Fritz Lung
Flametop wrote:What’s the story with Murray’s injury?
Think it's a recurring neck injury caused by overstretching while involved in a historical, consensual
threesome.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2018 9:09 am
by sewa
Hellraiser wrote:
shortbutlong wrote:Can any finance wizard on here explain to me how Premiership Rugby is valued at £550 millions when only 1 club is making a profit?

It's £275m, the 540-550 figure is NZ dollars.
Actually its 275m for 51% so the total is 540m

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2018 11:52 am
by Conspicuous
Can anyone give me a hotel recommendation for Belfast for the wife’s birthday. She wants something central that preferably won’t cost me an arm and a leg . Europa is booked out that weekend. I stayed in the Hilton a couple of times , great location and it’s grand but rooms a bit dated

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2018 11:54 am
by Mullet 2
Conspicuous wrote:Can anyone give me a hotel recommendation for Belfast for the wife’s birthday. She wants something central that preferably won’t cost me an arm and a leg . Europa is booked out that weekend. I stayed in the Hilton a couple of times , great location and it’s grand but rooms a bit dated

Flights to Syria too expensive?

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2018 11:55 am
by unseenwork
Ulster team to play Edinburgh, Guinness PRO14, Friday 7th September, Kingspan Stadium (7.35pm):
(15-9): W Addison; C Gilroy, D Cave, S McCloskey, H Speight; B Burns, J Cooney;
(1-8): A Warwick, R Herring (captain), R Kane , K Treadwell, I Henderson, M Coetzee, J Murphy, N Timoney;
Replacements (16-23): A McBurney, E O'Sullivan, W Herbst, A O'Connor, S Reidy, D Shanahan, A Curtis, A Kernohan.
Treadwell and Herbst. x(

Good to see McBurney retrained on the bench.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2018 12:03 pm
by unseenwork
I tell you, that's the best looking Ulster backrow since under maybe Anscombe?

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2018 12:08 pm
by sewa
Team for Friday.
Munster: Mike Haley; Darren Sweetnam, Sammy Arnold, Rory Scannell, Shane Daly; JJ Hanrahan, Neil Cronin; Dave Kilcoyne, Mike Sherry, John Ryan; Jean Kleyn, Billy Holland (C); Dave O’Callaghan, Tommy O’Donnell, Arno Botha.

Replacements: Rhys Marshall, James Cronin, Stephen Archer, Fineen Wycherley, Tadhg Beirne, Duncan Williams, Joey Carbery, Jaco Taute.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2018 12:09 pm
by sewa
Jaco back, Beirne and Carberry on the bench, nice balance to that side even if we are still missing the regulars, Earls, Murray, Stander, POM.

Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread

Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2018 12:21 pm
by feckwanker
sewa wrote:Team for Friday.
Munster: Mike Haley; Darren Sweetnam, Sammy Arnold, Rory Scannell, Shane Daly; JJ Hanrahan, Neil Cronin; Dave Kilcoyne, Mike Sherry, John Ryan; Jean Kleyn, Billy Holland (C); Dave O’Callaghan, Tommy O’Donnell, Arno Botha.

Replacements: Rhys Marshall, James Cronin, Stephen Archer, Fineen Wycherley, Tadhg Beirne, Duncan Williams, Joey Carbery, Jaco Taute.
Not too bad looking a team





Wait for them to get hockeyed now :(