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PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2018 9:40 am 
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Glad to see that the elbow fend is being punished.
The only mitigating factor is when the ball carrier goes for a hand off but misses with the hand before unintentionally connecting with the elbow.

Marler got a yellow for this yesterday. I thought it was very harsh.


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Dragons lock also got a rather bullshit yellow for 'leading with the shoulder' in blocking Carlo Canna on a kick through.

Being cracked down on all round, hopefully they can apply some common sense around the protocols and more importantly keep enforcing it. A six month fad is next to useless.


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Henshaw wasn't great.


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Dragons lock also got a rather bullshit yellow for 'leading with the shoulder' in blocking Carlo Canna on a kick through.

Being cracked down on all round, hopefully they can apply some common sense around the protocols and more importantly keep enforcing it. A six month fad is next to useless.


Rabah Slimani yesterday for Clermont too, looked pretty innocuous as well


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We give the refs a hard time on here - worth mentioning that the two games I watched this weekend - Connacht and Leinster - both Refs were excellent :thumbup:

Particularly the lad who reffed the Leinster game. Deffo not a homer - which was annoying as a Leinster fan but great to see in general.


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We give the refs a hard time on here - worth mentioning that the two games I watched this weekend - Connacht and Leinster - both Refs were excellent :thumbup:

Particularly the lad who reffed the Leinster game. Deffo not a homer - which was annoying as a Leinster fan but great to see in general.


Well tbf Leinster only conceded 3 penalties all game but I thought he was good. No going to the TMO for no reason and in general there were very few penalties.


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That was a really good result for Leinster tonight imo, and a real marker for the league. Edinburgh had been looking handy.

Not so much, very weak Edinburgh team against a strong Leinster team. Lets not go donw the road that Munster did getting all excited hammering a much weaker Ospreys.


Yeah it was a shit performance. :roll: thanks stattos shadow.


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Bullettyme wrote:
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That was a really good result for Leinster tonight imo, and a real marker for the league. Edinburgh had been looking handy.

Not so much, very weak Edinburgh team against a strong Leinster team. Lets not go donw the road that Munster did getting all excited hammering a much weaker Ospreys.


Yeah it was a shit performance. :roll: thanks stattos shadow.


I thought we were pretty good, certainly not CC semi good but good for this stage of season. Individually Healy, Toner, VDF, Tracy and Lowe were excellent while collectively the team played with a lot of intent both in attack and defence. If we looked a bit blunt at times I think credit must be given to Edinburgh for not letting our pack steamroll them and dealing pretty well with the likes of Larmour and Ringrose. They look like a well drilled side with too many limitations in attack to become a top side


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My kingdom for a competent Irish second scrummie.


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He connected with the point of his elbow straight to Leavy's head. Dunno about red, TBH.
Joe Marler was yeloowed earlier for a hand-off that slipped up. The laws seem a little trigger happy around leading with the forearm, I think.

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I was a little surprised at the decision in the Munster game yesterday as that was what I understood it to be. Didn't COrnell Du Preez get a really bad injury(Larynx) from an elbow to the throat?


I thought that one was more a mistimed hand off which ended up with the palm missing and then the carrier leaned in and pushed down with the forearm. That's me being charitable. By the letter, I think he could have gone.

More annoyed by the fact that the same player was "adidallnight ref" and getting away with leading with the forearm.

That said - ref was grand. Sure as hell not the cause for us going all Andrex on it. Fcuking cringeworthy viewing such passivity and lack of cohesion.


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I thought we were pretty good, certainly not CC semi good but good for this stage of season. Individually Healy, Toner, VDF, Tracy and Lowe were excellent while collectively the team played with a lot of intent both in attack and defence. If we looked a bit blunt at times I think credit must be given to Edinburgh for not letting our pack steamroll them and dealing pretty well with the likes of Larmour and Ringrose. They look like a well drilled side with too many limitations in attack to become a top side


TBF, since Cockers has taken over, Edinburgh have had an extra hard edge added. They might end up well beaten on the scoreline, but you won't see the beaten up and dominated on the pitch.
Like you say, they still have too much that's not there yet to be a properly/consistently good team; but they rarely get steamrolled.


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What's this about Aki annoying Connacht by going back home? Did he not turn up for pre season or something?


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Aki was excellent yesterday, we don't have many centres with his skill set


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What's this about Aki annoying Connacht by going back home? Did he not turn up for pre season or something?


He went home for a wedding during the season launch. He was on a down week, connacht had hoped he'd stay for it.


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Ulster put up Sextons score for the A's on facebook. Crazy to think that was the game but he has decent wheels at least. Pleasing to see the defence has been worked on this week

https://www.facebook.com/ulsterrugby/vi ... 731597843/

He was barely more than jogging on that "run".

(Knock-on near our own try line, a couple of passes and he's gonnnne)


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What's this about Aki annoying Connacht by going back home? Did he not turn up for pre season or something?


He went home for a wedding during the season launch. He was on a down week, connacht had hoped he'd stay for it.


Ah ok, not that controversial.


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What makes me very confident about Leinster is I don't see a single team beating them up front particularly in the matches that matter.

Toulouse away will be the game where they will be most under pressure due to Top14 teams having monsters and playing forward oriented power rugby.

As fro Edinburgh. Cockrill has improved them massively. I remember them being powder puff up front before he joined.


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Aki was excellent yesterday, we don't have many centres with his skill set

Whats that? The fact that he cannot pass off his weaker hand.


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Well done Connacht, Quin Roux's best game in a while.


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Conn wrote:
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What's this about Aki annoying Connacht by going back home? Did he not turn up for pre season or something?


He went home for a wedding during the season launch. He was on a down week, connacht had hoped he'd stay for it.


It's a whole load of nothing, shit stirring really from a few journos, the 42 were bringing it up again yesterday.

There was loads of lads down there who are mates with Nanai Williams from Pro14/Top14 and Prem clubs.


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Aki rightly getting huge credit but I thought Farrell was excellent again too . Really smart operator and a decent athlete. SOB2 also had a fine game , he’s a proper hard blindside


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Conspicuous wrote:
Aki rightly getting huge credit but I thought Farrell was excellent again too . Really smart operator and a decent athlete. SOB2 also had a fine game , he’s a proper hard blindside


We're a much better team with SOB 2.0 in it, he loves the tough stuff and drives others on too. Here's hoping he can stay fit.

Farrell has been excellent for over a year now. Was consistently good last year in a poor season


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Even Eoin Griffin looked halfway decent in the centre at times this year. That alone should tell you the job Friend has done already.


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Bullettyme wrote:
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That was a really good result for Leinster tonight imo, and a real marker for the league. Edinburgh had been looking handy.

Not so much, very weak Edinburgh team against a strong Leinster team. Lets not go donw the road that Munster did getting all excited hammering a much weaker Ospreys.


Yeah it was a shit performance. :roll: thanks stattos shadow.

We played well, but that was a really weakened team (Gilchrist, McInally, Nel, Watson, Pyrgos, Scott, Kinghorn), I just wouldn't read too much into it. I was expecting 5-0.


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What makes me very confident about Leinster is I don't see a single team beating them up front particularly in the matches that matter.

Toulouse away will be the game where they will be most under pressure due to Top14 teams having monsters and playing forward oriented power rugby.

As fro Edinburgh. Cockrill has improved them massively. I remember them being powder puff up front before he joined.

He has but they're struggling this season (hence him whinging at the refs). They've 6 pts from 4 games, gonna find it hard to improve on last season.


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iarmhiman wrote:
What makes me very confident about Leinster is I don't see a single team beating them up front particularly in the matches that matter.

Toulouse away will be the game where they will be most under pressure due to Top14 teams having monsters and playing forward oriented power rugby.

As fro Edinburgh. Cockrill has improved them massively. I remember them being powder puff up front before he joined.

He has but they're struggling this season (hence him whinging at the refs). They've 6 pts from 4 games, gonna find it hard to improve on last season.


They could have beaten Ulster away which would have been a good result. Ospreys away was a poor performance.

I think they'll be good in the challenge cup.


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Are they not in the champions cup?


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Are they not in the champions cup?


You know what? They are.

In with Montpellier, Toulon and Newcastle.

Probably not going to make it out of their pool.


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iarmhiman wrote:
paddyor wrote:
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What makes me very confident about Leinster is I don't see a single team beating them up front particularly in the matches that matter.

Toulouse away will be the game where they will be most under pressure due to Top14 teams having monsters and playing forward oriented power rugby.

As fro Edinburgh. Cockrill has improved them massively. I remember them being powder puff up front before he joined.

He has but they're struggling this season (hence him whinging at the refs). They've 6 pts from 4 games, gonna find it hard to improve on last season.


They could have beaten Ulster away which would have been a good result. Ospreys away was a poor performance.

I think they'll be good in the challenge cup.

2 games that they won last year. Though they lost to Ulster at home IIRC and the Os game was in Murrayfield. It's probably my fault, I backed them to overtake Glasgow this season and this is what usually happens to teams.


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Actual Leinster A side that won 16-10 against Scarlets.

15. Hugo Keenan;
14. Adam Byrne
13. Conor O'Brien
12. Jimmy O'Brien
11. Jack Kelly CAPTAIN
10. Noel Reid
9. Hugh O'Sullivan(under-21)
1. Michael Milne(under-20)
2. Ronan Kelleher(under-21)
3. Vakh Abdaladze
4. Oisin Dowling
5. Jack Dunne(under-21)
6. Josh Murphy
7. Ronan Watters(under-20)
8. Caelan Doris(under-21)
16. Dan Sheehan(under-21)
17. Giuseppe Coyne(under-20) for Milne (74)
18. Thomas Clarkson(under-19)
19. Ryan Baird(under-20) for Dowling (37)
20. Martin Moloney(under-20) for Watters (77)
21. Patrick Patterson(under-21) for O'Sullivan (71)
22. David Hawkshaw(under-20)
23. Michael Silvester(under-21)


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Jerry on what Erasmus joining Munster meant:

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Leinsters second try on Saturday evening was nearly Knox like. I hope it's what Contepomi is bringing to the team, as backs moves like that, allied to a pack who won't be bullied by anyone, should mean quite a few more spectaculars in the backs.


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Larmours offload out the back.

Interested to see what sort of team we send west.


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God I love Leinster.


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Actual Leinster A side that won 16-10 against Scarlets.

15. Hugo Keenan;
14. Adam Byrne
13. Conor O'Brien
12. Jimmy O'Brien
11. Jack Kelly CAPTAIN
10. Noel Reid
9. Hugh O'Sullivan(under-21)
1. Michael Milne(under-20)
2. Ronan Kelleher(under-21)
3. Vakh Abdaladze
4. Oisin Dowling
5. Jack Dunne(under-21)
6. Josh Murphy
7. Ronan Watters(under-20)
8. Caelan Doris(under-21)
16. Dan Sheehan(under-21)
17. Giuseppe Coyne(under-20) for Milne (74)
18. Thomas Clarkson(under-19)
19. Ryan Baird(under-20) for Dowling (37)
20. Martin Moloney(under-20) for Watters (77)
21. Patrick Patterson(under-21) for O'Sullivan (71)
22. David Hawkshaw(under-20)
23. Michael Silvester(under-21)


Adam Byrne has had a serious drop off


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Leinster still give up to much ground in the tackle.


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Leinster still give up to much ground in the tackle.

It's deliberate as they are trying to rip the ball. They generally change to just stopping the player in their own 22.


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Adam Byrne has had a serious drop off


He has. Ferg has also stepped it up big time since then and Larmour has become a constant feature in the backs.
When Byrne was going well in the backs, we had Carberry at 15 and Isa at 11. Now we've Lowe, Larmour, a rejuvenated Ferg, Daly etc.


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I assume Barry Daly and Ruddock are injured.


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