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Haley, Bealham and Cooney cut from squad.

Carbery confirmed at 4 - 6 weeks out.


thats a surprise..

FFS :x


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Haley, Bealham and Cooney cut from squad.

Carbery confirmed at 4 - 6 weeks out.


thats a surprise..


Especially after McGrath's poor performance at the weekend. Hard to understand why Bealham and Cooney were kept around for another week if they weren't going to be given a shot.


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Haley, Bealham and Cooney cut from squad.

Carbery confirmed at 4 - 6 weeks out.


thats a surprise..


Especially after McGrath's poor performance at the weekend. Hard to understand why Bealham and Cooney were kept around for another week if they weren't going to be given a shot.


McGrath picked as a specialist cover tackler


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8 is Jonny Sexton


:thumbup:

Just got number 6.

Richie Mo'unga

I think 29 is Francois Luow


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 14, 2019 2:03 pm 
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Wow that’s surprising, especially without a minute played.

Jack on the plane so.


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Bealham is pretty hard done by I feel. He's had a good season with Connacht. His game has improved. But not even trying Cooney is nothing short of stupid.


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irishrugbyua wrote:
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Haley, Bealham and Cooney cut from squad.

Carbery confirmed at 4 - 6 weeks out.


thats a surprise..

Maybe not. Two reasons.

1 - with Carbery hurt we will absolutely have to take a 3rd specialist OH, meaning Cooney's ability to cover 10 in an emergency is no longer necessary.
2 - Joe hasn't played Cooney at 10 at any stage, and has always had him as 4th SH


6 half backs means either 7 outside backs (two spares) and 6 backrows (three spares) or 8 outside backs (three spares) and 5 backrows (two spares).
And I'm really nervous about only 2 spare back row players.


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The fact you two remember this shit doesn't exactly encourage further disclosure



So we can add liar to the list now.

He's Ian Paisley junior and I claim and all expenses paid holiday to Sri Lanka.


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Wow that’s surprising, especially without a minute played.

Jack on the plane so.

I still think he will only take 2 loose heads, and 3 tight heads, with Porter and Ryan (to a lesser degree) covering 1. To be honest, Jack McGrath doesn’t deserve to go on 18/19 form.


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Ulster could be sitting pretty for the start of the season with McGrath, Herring, Mooradze, Murphy & Cooney all available.
And, hopefully, Coetzee.


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I still think he will only take 2 loose heads, and 3 tight heads, with Porter and Ryan (to a lesser degree) covering 1.

Yeah.

Both had a stint at LH on Saturday.
Kilcoyne ahead of McGrath for the other LH spot.


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Unlucky for Cooney
Great news for Ulster.
If he keeps playing the way he is playing then him and mccloskey and others that Joe just doesnt fancy will get their chance when Farrell comes in and any prejudice will hopefully be gone.


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Bealham is pretty hard done by I feel. He's had a good season with Connacht. His game has improved. But not even trying Cooney is nothing short of stupid.


He's a better option to cover both sides than Porter


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To be honest though I'd almost hoped Cooney would go in order to get Ulster to do something about our absolutely dismal depth at scrumhalf.


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Unlucky for Cooney
Great news for Ulster.
If he keeps playing the way he is playing then him and mccloskey and others that Joe just doesnt fancy will get their chance when Farrell comes in and any prejudice will hopefully be gone.



:lol: :lol:


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To be honest though I'd almost hoped Cooney would go in order to get Ulster to do something about our absolutely dismal depth at scrumhalf.

Shanahan for all his limitations had a pretty good second half to the season.
Jonny Stewart hasnt kicked on like I hoped he would but he's still relatively young


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Cooney is better than McGrath so think he's unfortunate. Great for Ulster mind.


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hermie wrote:
Bealham is pretty hard done by I feel. He's had a good season with Connacht. His game has improved. But not even trying Cooney is nothing short of stupid.


He's a better option to cover both sides than Porter


Odd that he was dropped so.


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earl the beaver wrote:
Cooney is better than McGrath so think he's unfortunate. Great for Ulster mind.


Of course he is...


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To be honest though I'd almost hoped Cooney would go in order to get Ulster to do something about our absolutely dismal depth at scrumhalf.

Shanahan for all his limitations had a pretty good second half to the season.
Jonny Stewart hasnt kicked on like I hoped he would but he's still relatively young

Shanahan did get on well but I'd always be wary about him. Stewart just hasn't shown anything for the talent he seemed to have at school, and Angus Curtis seems to be more use as an undersized utility back than a scrumhalf, ditto for Stronge who seems to be kept in and around the A team for some reason.


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Porterbelly1 wrote:
hermie wrote:
Bealham is pretty hard done by I feel. He's had a good season with Connacht. His game has improved. But not even trying Cooney is nothing short of stupid.


He's a better option to cover both sides than Porter


Of course he is...


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earl the beaver wrote:
Cooney is better than McGrath so think he's unfortunate. Great for Ulster mind.

Joe thinks differently. :thumbup:


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Ulster could be sitting pretty for the start of the season with McGrath, Herring, Mooradze, Murphy & Cooney all available.
And, hopefully, Coetzee.

Coetzee will in all likelihood be going to Japan
Still, a pack of McGrath, Herring, Moore, Carter, Treadwell, Timoney, Nordi, Reidy isn't to be sniffed at in a WC year


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Winnie wrote:
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To be honest though I'd almost hoped Cooney would go in order to get Ulster to do something about our absolutely dismal depth at scrumhalf.

Shanahan for all his limitations had a pretty good second half to the season.
Jonny Stewart hasnt kicked on like I hoped he would but he's still relatively young


Stewart won't make it and frankly shouldn't be near the squad


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Leinsters pack during WC: Byrne, Tracy, Bent, Molony, Fardy, Deegan, Connors, Doris.


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Ulsters Red Hand wrote:
Yer Man wrote:
Ulster could be sitting pretty for the start of the season with McGrath, Herring, Mooradze, Murphy & Cooney all available.
And, hopefully, Coetzee.

Coetzee will in all likelihood be going to Japan
Still, a pack of McGrath, Herring, Moore, Carter, Treadwell, Timoney, Nordi, Reidy isn't to be sniffed at in a WC year

And if O'Sullivan can keep his form up this season he'll be right there competing with McGrath.


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hermie wrote:
Bealham is pretty hard done by I feel. He's had a good season with Connacht. His game has improved. But not even trying Cooney is nothing short of stupid.


Dan McFarland must be thinking he's won the lottery. I really cant see Addison going either and to be honest im a little surprised he is still there.


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Ulsters Red Hand wrote:
Yer Man wrote:
Ulster could be sitting pretty for the start of the season with McGrath, Herring, Mooradze, Murphy & Cooney all available.
And, hopefully, Coetzee.

Coetzee will in all likelihood be going to Japan
Still, a pack of McGrath, Herring, Moore, Carter, Treadwell, Timoney, Nordi, Reidy isn't to be sniffed at in a WC year

And if O'Sullivan can keep his form up this season he'll be right there competing with McGrath.

Yep could well see him starting a few games
Even take Jordi out for Rea Jr or Snr and you've got a brilliant pack

Cooney, Johnston, Gilroy, Stu, Marshall, Faddes, Lowry

That leaves Ludik, Lyttle and Balacoune as outside backs for the bench. Good depth :thumbup:


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Ulsters Red Hand wrote:
Yer Man wrote:
Ulster could be sitting pretty for the start of the season with McGrath, Herring, Mooradze, Murphy & Cooney all available.
And, hopefully, Coetzee.

Coetzee will in all likelihood be going to Japan
Still, a pack of McGrath, Herring, Moore, Carter, Treadwell, Timoney, Nordi, Reidy isn't to be sniffed at in a WC year

Consisting of four Leinstermen, and one each from England, South Africa, Australia and New Zealand :blush:


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earl the beaver wrote:
Cooney is better than McGrath so think he's unfortunate. Great for Ulster mind.

Joe thinks differently. :thumbup:

And we know he's never made any mistakes before :thumbup:


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camroc1 wrote:
Ulsters Red Hand wrote:
Yer Man wrote:
Ulster could be sitting pretty for the start of the season with McGrath, Herring, Mooradze, Murphy & Cooney all available.
And, hopefully, Coetzee.

Coetzee will in all likelihood be going to Japan
Still, a pack of McGrath, Herring, Moore, Carter, Treadwell, Timoney, Nordi, Reidy isn't to be sniffed at in a WC year

Consisting of four Leinstermen, and one each from England, South Africa, Australia and New Zealand :blush:

We know where we're at, and our forward priduction is a long ways off.


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camroc1 wrote:
Ulsters Red Hand wrote:
Yer Man wrote:
Ulster could be sitting pretty for the start of the season with McGrath, Herring, Mooradze, Murphy & Cooney all available.
And, hopefully, Coetzee.

Coetzee will in all likelihood be going to Japan
Still, a pack of McGrath, Herring, Moore, Carter, Treadwell, Timoney, Nordi, Reidy isn't to be sniffed at in a WC year

Consisting of four Leinstermen, and one each from England, South Africa, Australia and New Zealand :blush:


I guess you're right, our pack should be made up of the 20 year old kids coming through the academy now on their own. ideally we'll see debuts for Reid, Allison and McCann, and give Dalton etc some more game time

Would love to see Stewart Moore be given a good run in the team. He's a special player


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unseenwork wrote:
camroc1 wrote:
Ulsters Red Hand wrote:
Yer Man wrote:
Ulster could be sitting pretty for the start of the season with McGrath, Herring, Mooradze, Murphy & Cooney all available.
And, hopefully, Coetzee.

Coetzee will in all likelihood be going to Japan
Still, a pack of McGrath, Herring, Moore, Carter, Treadwell, Timoney, Nordi, Reidy isn't to be sniffed at in a WC year

Consisting of four Leinstermen, and one each from England, South Africa, Australia and New Zealand :blush:

We know where we're at, and our forward priduction is a long ways off.

Its improving though with the Reas etc.

A real dearth in the 24 to 30 age bracket. Only Hendy really.


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camroc1 wrote:
Ulsters Red Hand wrote:
Yer Man wrote:
Ulster could be sitting pretty for the start of the season with McGrath, Herring, Mooradze, Murphy & Cooney all available.
And, hopefully, Coetzee.

Coetzee will in all likelihood be going to Japan
Still, a pack of McGrath, Herring, Moore, Carter, Treadwell, Timoney, Nordi, Reidy isn't to be sniffed at in a WC year

Consisting of four Leinstermen, and one each from England, South Africa, Australia and New Zealand :blush:

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camroc1 wrote:
Ulsters Red Hand wrote:
Yer Man wrote:
Ulster could be sitting pretty for the start of the season with McGrath, Herring, Mooradze, Murphy & Cooney all available.
And, hopefully, Coetzee.

Coetzee will in all likelihood be going to Japan
Still, a pack of McGrath, Herring, Moore, Carter, Treadwell, Timoney, Nordi, Reidy isn't to be sniffed at in a WC year

Consisting of four Leinstermen, and one each from England, South Africa, Australia and New Zealand :blush:


you could interchange O'Sullivan, McBurney, AoC, Kane/O'Toole, the two Rea's in there though without losing too much and all those listed are at least academy products. I wouldnt change them all at once but at least it somewhat addresses the point you're making.

Is Coetzee that much of a cert to travel btw? They have Kolisi, Smith, Vermuelen, Du Toit ahead of him at least it seems.


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unseenwork wrote:
irishrugbyua wrote:
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Haley, Bealham and Cooney cut from squad.

Carbery confirmed at 4 - 6 weeks out.


thats a surprise..

Joe saving Ulster from having Shanahan and Stewart as their scrumhalves. Sickener for Cooney.


To me it looks like Cooney brings a lot of sharpness and variety to the attack. I'd have him a lot higher up the pecking order but Schmidt doesn't seem to be a fan. He must value McGrath's defence higher.


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RichieRich89 wrote:
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irishrugbyua wrote:
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Haley, Bealham and Cooney cut from squad.

Carbery confirmed at 4 - 6 weeks out.


thats a surprise..

Joe saving Ulster from having Shanahan and Stewart as their scrumhalves. Sickener for Cooney.


To me it looks like Cooney brings a lot of sharpness and variety to the attack. I'd have him a lot higher up the pecking order but Schmidt doesn't seem to be a fan. He must value McGrath's defence higher.

Please don't engage with me.


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Ulsters Red Hand wrote:
camroc1 wrote:
Ulsters Red Hand wrote:
Yer Man wrote:
Ulster could be sitting pretty for the start of the season with McGrath, Herring, Mooradze, Murphy & Cooney all available.
And, hopefully, Coetzee.

Coetzee will in all likelihood be going to Japan
Still, a pack of McGrath, Herring, Moore, Carter, Treadwell, Timoney, Nordi, Reidy isn't to be sniffed at in a WC year

Consisting of four Leinstermen, and one each from England, South Africa, Australia and New Zealand :blush:


I guess you're right, our pack should be made up of the 20 year old kids coming through the academy now on their own. ideally we'll see debuts for Reid, Allison and McCann, and give Dalton etc some more game time

Would love to see Stewart Moore be given a good run in the team. He's a special player

You should certainly mix and match and at least see if the Academy kids have what it takes.


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