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This is shite :((


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If money is an issue (and really why wouldn't it be as he is approaching 30) then I think the tax break gives munster an edge. That said whatever he gets I'm sure will be a hefty wage.


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in the spirit of starting afresh, we had agreed that ROG has to start against Wales right ?


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 4:19 pm 
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in the spirit of starting afresh, we had agreed that ROG has to start against Wales right ?


400 pages before midnight. Are we trying to keep ahead of the other nations?


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ticketlessinseattle wrote:
in the spirit of starting afresh, we had agreed that ROG has to start against Wales right ?



never in doubt......ask cammy


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Nice new thread, nice new forum. :thumbup:


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Flametop wrote:
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in the spirit of starting afresh, we had agreed that ROG has to start against Wales right ?


400 pages before midnight. Are we trying to keep ahead of the other nations?


Nah, not subtle enough.

Reddan v Murray is more debateable although sadly Reddan's form gives Murray a big edge.

Alternatively Earls v Trimble should generate a few pages but again the fact most think Earls will be 13 or failing that Bowe means no wing debate.

Ryan v Tuohy, there you go.


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CM11 wrote:
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ticketlessinseattle wrote:
in the spirit of starting afresh, we had agreed that ROG has to start against Wales right ?


400 pages before midnight. Are we trying to keep ahead of the other nations?


Nah, not subtle enough.

Reddan v Murray is more debateable although sadly Reddan's form gives Murray a big edge.

Alternatively Earls v Trimble should generate a few pages but again the fact most think Earls will be 13 or failing that Bowe means no wing debate.

Ryan v Tuohy, there you go.


if its up for debate then obviously should be resolved through a cage fight to the death


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Murray is far superior scrum-half than Reddan is.


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ticketlessinseattle wrote:
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Flametop wrote:
ticketlessinseattle wrote:
in the spirit of starting afresh, we had agreed that ROG has to start against Wales right ?


400 pages before midnight. Are we trying to keep ahead of the other nations?


Nah, not subtle enough.

Reddan v Murray is more debateable although sadly Reddan's form gives Murray a big edge.

Alternatively Earls v Trimble should generate a few pages but again the fact most think Earls will be 13 or failing that Bowe means no wing debate.

Ryan v Tuohy, there you go.


if its up for debate then obviously should be resolved through a cage fight to the death


Good plan.

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Murray is far superior scrum-half than Reddan is.


I don't think he is but he's in better form at the moment and so probably deserves the start as long as ROG isn't beside him.


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Those sly Dogs at Ulster, not renewing McLoughlin's contract.

This is blatant HC mocker gods conspiracy shit right there.

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ZappaMan wrote:
Murray is far superior scrum-half than Reddan is.

:thumbup:


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iRich wrote:
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Murray is far superior scrum-half than Reddan is.


I don't think he is but he's in better form at the moment and so probably deserves the start as long as ROG isn't beside him.

To be honest, my post was far more a reflection of my opinion on Reddan than on Murray.


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 4:36 pm 
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Declan Kidney wrote:
ZappaMan wrote:
Murray is far superior scrum-half than Reddan is.

:thumbup:

Bring back the Bull for this Sunday, Decco.

Oh, and keep up the good work :thumbup:


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 4:40 pm 
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ZappaMan wrote:
Declan Kidney wrote:
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Murray is far superior scrum-half than Reddan is.

:thumbup:

Bring back the Bull for this Sunday, Decco.

Oh, and keep up the good work :thumbup:

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Ulster finally make the quarters and then do it 2 years running- how do they reward their Coach?

They give him the boot :uhoh:


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Despot wrote:
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in the spirit of starting afresh, we had agreed that ROG has to start against Wales right ?



never in doubt......ask cammy



If that Happens x(


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On another note I see the Under 20's team has been announced - who are the new players to look out for. I see Luke mcgrath only makes the bench- are our pack big enough?
I see Munster are still making fantastic contributions to Irish underage rugby with only 2 starters less then any other Province :lol:


The Ireland Under-20 team (Sponsored by PwC) has been named today by Head Coach Mike Ruddock for this Friday's opening game in the Under-20 RBS Six Nations Championship against Wales, in Dubarry Park, Athlone.



Ruddock has named an experienced side with seven players from last year's squad included in the starting XV to play Wales.Buccaneers own Daniel Qualter will partner up with Iain Henderson in the second row while fellow Connacht native Aaron Conneely is named in the back row.
Centre JJ Hanarahan makes a return to the side from last year along with Sam Coghlan-Murray who has been named on the wing.
Kieran Marmion will take up the scrum half position and will partner Paddy Jackson who has been named at outhalf. Jackson will also captain this year's side.
Speaking ahead of the opening game Ruddock said "We are all looking forward to the start of the 6 Nations. It is always a tough test against Wales but preparations have been first class and we are confident we have prepared as best as we can and are now looking forward to transferring that training onto the pitch itself."
Ireland U-20 v Wales U-20 (Dubarry Park, Athlone - Friday 3rd February 2012, Kick-off 7.05pm)

15 - Shane Layden (Buccaneers - Connacht)
14 - Barry Daly (UCD - Leinster)
13 - Foster Horan (Lansdowne - Leinster)
12 - JJ Hanrahan (UL Bohemians - Munster)
11 - Sam Coghlan-Murray (UCD - Leinster)
10 - Patrick Jackson (Dungannon - Ulster) Captain
9 - Kieran Marmion (Corinthians - Connacht)
1 - Kyle McCall (Ballynahinch - Ulster)
2 - Niall Scannell (Dolphin - Munster)
3 - Peter Reilly (Lansdowne - Leinster)
4 - Iain Henderson (QUB - Ulster)
5 - Daniel Qualter (Buccaneers - Connacht)
6 - Conor Gilsenan (UCD - Leinster)
7 - Aaron Conneely (Corinthians - Connacht)
8 - Jack Conan (Old Belvedere - Leinster)
Replacements:
16 - Des Merrey (Clontarf - Leinster)
17 - James Rael (Garryowen - Munster)
18 - Jake Cawley (XXX - Leinster)
19 - Tadgh Beirne (Lansdowne - Leinster)
20 - Jordan Coghlan (UCD - Leinster)
21 - Luke McGrath (UCD - Leinster)
22 - Cathal Marsh (Dublin University - Leinster)
23 - Christopher Farrell (Dungannon - Ulster)


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I think Reddan has been underrated for Ireland and his partnership with Sexton means he should always be kept at least on the bench. Murray is better at the moment though and he seems to be our best prospect so now is the time to give him the experience.


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ZappaMan wrote:
I thought Bowe to Munster was all but confirmed? Bloody Irish rugby rumours, we're like a bunch of nattering old women.
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It's official now, he has signed: http://www.munsterrugby.ie/news/8712.php


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ZappaMan wrote:
Murray is far superior scrum-half than Reddan is.

Well you are still Swiss tony to me.


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Larry Murphy wrote:
ZappaMan wrote:
I thought Bowe to Munster was all but confirmed? Bloody Irish rugby rumours, we're like a bunch of nattering old women.
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It's official now, he has signed: http://www.munsterrugby.ie/news/8712.php


Deserves a thread of its own tbf :shock:


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Luckycharmer wrote:
On another note I see the Under 20's team has been announced - who are the new players to look out for. I see Luke mcgrath only makes the bench- are our pack big enough?
I see Munster are still making fantastic contributions to Irish underage rugby with only 2 starters less then any other Province :lol:


The Ireland Under-20 team (Sponsored by PwC) has been named today by Head Coach Mike Ruddock for this Friday's opening game in the Under-20 RBS Six Nations Championship against Wales, in Dubarry Park, Athlone.



Ruddock has named an experienced side with seven players from last year's squad included in the starting XV to play Wales.Buccaneers own Daniel Qualter will partner up with Iain Henderson in the second row while fellow Connacht native Aaron Conneely is named in the back row.
Centre JJ Hanarahan makes a return to the side from last year along with Sam Coghlan-Murray who has been named on the wing.
Kieran Marmion will take up the scrum half position and will partner Paddy Jackson who has been named at outhalf. Jackson will also captain this year's side.
Speaking ahead of the opening game Ruddock said "We are all looking forward to the start of the 6 Nations. It is always a tough test against Wales but preparations have been first class and we are confident we have prepared as best as we can and are now looking forward to transferring that training onto the pitch itself."
Ireland U-20 v Wales U-20 (Dubarry Park, Athlone - Friday 3rd February 2012, Kick-off 7.05pm)

15 - Shane Layden (Buccaneers - Connacht)
14 - Barry Daly (UCD - Leinster)
13 - Foster Horan (Lansdowne - Leinster)
12 - JJ Hanrahan (UL Bohemians - Munster)
11 - Sam Coghlan-Murray (UCD - Leinster)
10 - Patrick Jackson (Dungannon - Ulster) Captain
9 - Kieran Marmion (Corinthians - Connacht)
1 - Kyle McCall (Ballynahinch - Ulster)
2 - Niall Scannell (Dolphin - Munster)
3 - Peter Reilly (Lansdowne - Leinster)
4 - Iain Henderson (QUB - Ulster)
5 - Daniel Qualter (Buccaneers - Connacht)
6 - Conor Gilsenan (UCD - Leinster)
7 - Aaron Conneely (Corinthians - Connacht)
8 - Jack Conan (Old Belvedere - Leinster)
Replacements:
16 - Des Merrey (Clontarf - Leinster)
17 - James Rael (Garryowen - Munster)
18 - Jake Cawley (XXX - Leinster)
19 - Tadgh Beirne (Lansdowne - Leinster)
20 - Jordan Coghlan (UCD - Leinster)
21 - Luke McGrath (UCD - Leinster)
22 - Cathal Marsh (Dublin University - Leinster)
23 - Christopher Farrell (Dungannon - Ulster)


Not sure if new scrumhalf can pass or kick but he defiently can run- some poor defence mind

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjISrkj_ ... r_embedded


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McGrath not making the starting XV for the U20's? :shock:


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Luckycharmer wrote:
On another note I see the Under 20's team has been announced - who are the new players to look out for. I see Luke mcgrath only makes the bench- are our pack big enough?
I see Munster are still making fantastic contributions to Irish underage rugby with only 2 starters less then any other Province :lol:


The Ireland Under-20 team (Sponsored by PwC) has been named today by Head Coach Mike Ruddock for this Friday's opening game in the Under-20 RBS Six Nations Championship against Wales, in Dubarry Park, Athlone.



Ruddock has named an experienced side with seven players from last year's squad included in the starting XV to play Wales.Buccaneers own Daniel Qualter will partner up with Iain Henderson in the second row while fellow Connacht native Aaron Conneely is named in the back row.
Centre JJ Hanarahan makes a return to the side from last year along with Sam Coghlan-Murray who has been named on the wing.
Kieran Marmion will take up the scrum half position and will partner Paddy Jackson who has been named at outhalf. Jackson will also captain this year's side.
Speaking ahead of the opening game Ruddock said "We are all looking forward to the start of the 6 Nations. It is always a tough test against Wales but preparations have been first class and we are confident we have prepared as best as we can and are now looking forward to transferring that training onto the pitch itself."
Ireland U-20 v Wales U-20 (Dubarry Park, Athlone - Friday 3rd February 2012, Kick-off 7.05pm)

15 - Shane Layden (Buccaneers - Connacht)
14 - Barry Daly (UCD - Leinster)
13 - Foster Horan (Lansdowne - Leinster)
12 - JJ Hanrahan (UL Bohemians - Munster)
11 - Sam Coghlan-Murray (UCD - Leinster)
10 - Patrick Jackson (Dungannon - Ulster) Captain
9 - Kieran Marmion (Corinthians - Connacht)
1 - Kyle McCall (Ballynahinch - Ulster)
2 - Niall Scannell (Dolphin - Munster)
3 - Peter Reilly (Lansdowne - Leinster)
4 - Iain Henderson (QUB - Ulster)
5 - Daniel Qualter (Buccaneers - Connacht)
6 - Conor Gilsenan (UCD - Leinster)
7 - Aaron Conneely (Corinthians - Connacht)
8 - Jack Conan (Old Belvedere - Leinster)
Replacements:
16 - Des Merrey (Clontarf - Leinster)
17 - James Rael (Garryowen - Munster)
18 - Jake Cawley (XXX - Leinster)
19 - Tadgh Beirne (Lansdowne - Leinster)
20 - Jordan Coghlan (UCD - Leinster)
21 - Luke McGrath (UCD - Leinster)
22 - Cathal Marsh (Dublin University - Leinster)
23 - Christopher Farrell (Dungannon - Ulster)



I predict that by 2020 Munster Vs Leinster games will look like what a Leinster Possibles Vs Probables looks like today. Not a great state of affairs and bodes ill for the future of Limerick theatre and literature.


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Luckycharmer wrote:
On another note I see the Under 20's team has been announced - who are the new players to look out for. I see Luke mcgrath only makes the bench- are our pack big enough?
I see Munster are still making fantastic contributions to Irish underage rugby with only 2 starters less then any other Province :lol:


The Ireland Under-20 team (Sponsored by PwC) has been named today by Head Coach Mike Ruddock for this Friday's opening game in the Under-20 RBS Six Nations Championship against Wales, in Dubarry Park, Athlone.



Ruddock has named an experienced side with seven players from last year's squad included in the starting XV to play Wales.Buccaneers own Daniel Qualter will partner up with Iain Henderson in the second row while fellow Connacht native Aaron Conneely is named in the back row.
Centre JJ Hanarahan makes a return to the side from last year along with Sam Coghlan-Murray who has been named on the wing.
Kieran Marmion will take up the scrum half position and will partner Paddy Jackson who has been named at outhalf. Jackson will also captain this year's side.
Speaking ahead of the opening game Ruddock said "We are all looking forward to the start of the 6 Nations. It is always a tough test against Wales but preparations have been first class and we are confident we have prepared as best as we can and are now looking forward to transferring that training onto the pitch itself."
Ireland U-20 v Wales U-20 (Dubarry Park, Athlone - Friday 3rd February 2012, Kick-off 7.05pm)

15 - Shane Layden (Buccaneers - Connacht)
14 - Barry Daly (UCD - Leinster)
13 - Foster Horan (Lansdowne - Leinster)
12 - JJ Hanrahan (UL Bohemians - Munster)
11 - Sam Coghlan-Murray (UCD - Leinster)
10 - Patrick Jackson (Dungannon - Ulster) Captain
9 - Kieran Marmion (Corinthians - Connacht)
1 - Kyle McCall (Ballynahinch - Ulster)
2 - Niall Scannell (Dolphin - Munster)
3 - Peter Reilly (Lansdowne - Leinster)
4 - Iain Henderson (QUB - Ulster)
5 - Daniel Qualter (Buccaneers - Connacht)
6 - Conor Gilsenan (UCD - Leinster)
7 - Aaron Conneely (Corinthians - Connacht)
8 - Jack Conan (Old Belvedere - Leinster)
Replacements:
16 - Des Merrey (Clontarf - Leinster)
17 - James Rael (Garryowen - Munster)
18 - Jake Cawley (XXX - Leinster)
19 - Tadgh Beirne (Lansdowne - Leinster)
20 - Jordan Coghlan (UCD - Leinster)
21 - Luke McGrath (UCD - Leinster)
22 - Cathal Marsh (Dublin University - Leinster)
23 - Christopher Farrell (Dungannon - Ulster)



Connacht deserve more than 4 on the team, CONSPIRACY!!!


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Any truth in the rumour Nagle is heading to Leinster next season?
Seems like a good move if true.


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Any truth in the rumour Nagle is heading to Leinster next season?
Seems like a good move if true.


The rumour that you just made up?


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I really can't understand what the fudge Ulster are at.

Most successful couple of seasons in a decade and not renewing the coach. WTF? Anyone care to speculate why? Seems mental.


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Strange enough about McLoughlin but there is obviously more to the story than meets the eye. Thought Bowe to Munster was almost a done deal as well but obviously not. Interesting times ahead.

On the Bowe thing people got about over excited because Frankie on Against The Head seemed to assume that Bowe was going to go to Munster over Ulster. We don't know for certain if this the case or not though. I reckon it could be a case of Frankie just guessing

Or trolling. The excitability of die Ulstermanne is well known.


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Jack Conan at number 8 eh?
With a name like that, he'd better make it through.


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Larry Murphy wrote:
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Any truth in the rumour Nagle is heading to Leinster next season?
Seems like a good move if true.


The rumour that you just made up?


Obviously not then.


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I really can't understand what the fudge Ulster are at.

Most successful couple of seasons in a decade and not renewing the coach. WTF? Anyone care to speculate why? Seems mental.



Makes no sense what so ever!


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I really can't understand what the fudge Ulster are at.

Most successful couple of seasons in a decade and not renewing the coach. WTF? Anyone care to speculate why? Seems mental.


most of the team couldnt understand his accent ; was told to learn Afrikaans or ship out


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I really can't understand what the fudge Ulster are at.

Most successful couple of seasons in a decade and not renewing the coach. WTF? Anyone care to speculate why? Seems mental.


most of the team couldnt understand his accent ; was told to learn Afrikaans or ship out

The Leinsterlads have the same problem with Kiddinme alright !


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Jack Conan at number 8 eh?
With a name like that, he'd better make it through.


Pretty sure he was the 8 for Gerard's for a couple of years. He's supposed to be pretty handy.


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People on MF saying that DOC will be starting.

That and D'Arcy would be proper bullshit 'loyalty' selections.

Apposite wrote:
I really can't understand what the fudge Ulster are at.

Most successful couple of seasons in a decade and not renewing the coach. WTF? Anyone care to speculate why? Seems mental.


Seems like he was only on a one year deal whatever the outcome was this season, which is fairly mental.

Because many coaches would see that kind of thing as an insult and turn it down straight away, I imagine he accepted it because he didn't really want to stay on as HC full time and basically did the extra year as a 'favour'.

I could be massively wrong, but if he ends up taking an academy/skills coach role, it suggests he doesn't see it as a demotion, more on focusing on what he wants to do. If he doesn't stay with Ulster, then what I've said is crap and he's pissed off at how things were handled.


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Is anyone on MF reliable?

Where's Bock these days? He's always right about these things.


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People on MF saying that DOC will be starting.

That and D'Arcy would be proper bullshit 'loyalty' selections.

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I can understand D'arcy starting to an extent,but DoC starting would be bullshit.
Ryan is exactly the kind of player we need to arm wrestle the Welsh.


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