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Posted: **Tue Apr 22, 2014 8:29 pm**

Openside wrote:
covrich wrote:
Malahide Mullet wrote:So the Director claims it wasn't a rape scene.

Forgetting that a f**king TV programme is not a novel and you can't have an internal monologue saying "In my heart I screamed yes" or some such.

Well unless we see something in next episode to make us think she gave in or something, as I said in the other thread he would be back to shoving Bran out the tower and this time people won't sympathise for him and let him grow on them.

Other thing slightly related is I wonder if they will reveal it was Joffrey who actually tried to have Bran murdered after the fall?

She did kinda give in, she had her hand on his face kissing him back??

Director keen to show that 'no' really means 'yes'?

Posted: **Tue Apr 22, 2014 8:29 pm**

SFBB wrote:
Floppykid wrote:
SFBB wrote:What do people think will happen in the end?

My guess is Dany and her Dragons save the Wall from an attack by the Others. Aided by Bran who uses one as a Warg. Dany becomes Queen, Aegon marrys Sansa and inherits the throne.
And what happens to Jon?
He will be dead. Stannis will be the next Lord Commander of the Nights Watch. He will take a pardon in order to have that job.

Aegon and Dany won't marry because they can't have heirs. She's barren.

Stannis won't take a pardon for any job. He sees himself as the rightful king of Westeros, and it would be an affront to his obsession with the law to allow anyone except him be king. By the end of book 7 he will either be on the Iron Throne, or he will be dead.

A good shout for Nightswatch commander would be Jaime. His redemption arc suggests someone who wants to fix the wrongs he's done, but no king can reasonably forgive his crimes. I say that and Martin has probably already written his death chapter.

Posted: **Tue Apr 22, 2014 8:30 pm**

Is it clear the Aegon character wasn't a fraud?

Posted: **Tue Apr 22, 2014 8:34 pm**

It's a bit hard to see how it won't turn out to be be an anticlimactic let down, hopefully not, but TWOW will need to raise the bar.

Posted: **Tue Apr 22, 2014 8:36 pm**

Malahide Mullet wrote:Is it clear the Aegon character wasn't a fraud?

No. He seems to believe himself that he's the real deal. Connington seems to believe it too, as do all those around him. But they could well all just be believing what Varys has told them, there's no indication that any of them were there when "Aegon" was rescued from King's Landing.

Posted: **Tue Apr 22, 2014 8:39 pm**

DOB wrote:
SFBB wrote:
Floppykid wrote:
SFBB wrote:What do people think will happen in the end?

My guess is Dany and her Dragons save the Wall from an attack by the Others. Aided by Bran who uses one as a Warg. Dany becomes Queen, Aegon marrys Sansa and inherits the throne.
And what happens to Jon?
He will be dead. Stannis will be the next Lord Commander of the Nights Watch. He will take a pardon in order to have that job.

Aegon and Dany won't marry because they can't have heirs. She's barren.
Stannis won't take a pardon for any job. He sees himself as the rightful king of Westeros, and it would be an affront to his obsession with the law to allow anyone except him be king. By the end of book 7 he will either be on the Iron Throne, or he will be dead.

A good shout for Nightswatch commander would be Jaime. His redemption arc suggests someone who wants to fix the wrongs he's done, but no king can reasonably forgive his crimes. I say that and Martin has probably already written his death chapter.

Nah, Stannis will concede that she has a better claim than him, and he will see how much work is needed in the Nights Watch. With Jon Snow dead, they need a new commander. Tbf, he will probably put Sam in.

Jaime is first against the wall in the new Targaryen regime. He killed the last one, FFS. With Gregor and Tywin dead, Jaime is all that's left.

Posted: **Tue Apr 22, 2014 8:41 pm**

DOB wrote:
Malahide Mullet wrote:Is it clear the Aegon character wasn't a fraud?
No. He seems to believe himself that he's the real deal. Connington seems to believe it too, as do all those around him. But they could well all just be believing what Varys has told them, there's no indication that any of them were there when "Aegon" was rescued from King's Landing.

Didn't Connington take him away from Kings Landing?

Posted: **Tue Apr 22, 2014 8:42 pm**

If Jon's dead the series would really be gone to shit.
He has to be involved in the climax.

Posted: **Tue Apr 22, 2014 8:43 pm**

Floppykid wrote:If Jon's dead the series would really be gone to shit.
He has to be involved in the climax.

Especially with all the hints/non hints as to who his parents are/are not.

Posted: **Tue Apr 22, 2014 8:46 pm**

Dany's not big on unjust executions, and once she hears Jaime's story about the greenfire Aegon was willing to unleash on KL, she'll be a bit more sympathetic. She's met her brother, so she knows well how demented a Targaryen can get.

If Jaime dies, it will probably be in battle.

Posted: **Tue Apr 22, 2014 8:47 pm**

Floppykid wrote:If Jon's dead the series would really be gone to shit.
He has to be involved in the climax.

Fat chance of him actually been dead, unfortunately.

Posted: **Tue Apr 22, 2014 8:47 pm**

Tony McGahan wrote:
Floppykid wrote:If Jon's dead the series would really be gone to shit.
He has to be involved in the climax.
Fat chance of him actually been dead, unfortunately.

He's one of the few interesting characters left.

Posted: **Tue Apr 22, 2014 8:53 pm**

Floppykid wrote:
Tony McGahan wrote:
Floppykid wrote:If Jon's dead the series would really be gone to shit.
He has to be involved in the climax.
Fat chance of him actually been dead, unfortunately.
He's one of the few interesting characters left.

He's Ned-lite, especially in the last one. I guess he was semi interesting in books 1-3 (still kinda dull), but I swear, by ADWD, he was basically a Ned clone. Not as much as Robb obviously but he made some spectacularly dumb decisions in book five all in the name of honour, or some such bullshit.

The events surrounding him are interesting obviously, but it's a case of bad character in a good storyline for me. Still better than Dany which is a shit character in a shit storyline, mind.

Posted: **Tue Apr 22, 2014 8:54 pm**

Sounds like you should give it up Tony

Posted: **Tue Apr 22, 2014 9:01 pm**

Give up the books? Considering there's only two left, and I'm cautiously optimistic about the next one (whenever it lands), I think I can stick it.

Though, if he actually does finish it in two more books, I'll eat my hat. I foresee a "splitting the final book into three" move once we reach that point, much like the Wheel of Time.

Posted: **Tue Apr 22, 2014 9:09 pm**

Doesn't Jon get killed at the end of ADWD?

Posted: **Tue Apr 22, 2014 9:11 pm**

The Ginger Jedi wrote:Doesn't Jon get killed at the end of ADWD?

Yes, but Melisandre will resurrect him in the next one because he is The Prince That Was Promised/ Azor Ahai Reborn.

Posted: **Tue Apr 22, 2014 9:12 pm**

I asked this before

But how many stabs did he take? 4ish?

Posted: **Tue Apr 22, 2014 9:14 pm**

Malahide Mullet wrote:I asked this before

But how many stabs did he take? 4ish?

I think it was 4. Thinking he may just straight up survive instead of going warg or turning into a living god?

Posted: **Tue Apr 22, 2014 9:14 pm**

4 is spot on, from what I remember.

Posted: **Tue Apr 22, 2014 9:15 pm**

Thinking a straight up survive might be on the cards.

The Bobby Ewing if you will.

Posted: **Tue Apr 22, 2014 9:16 pm**

R+L=J Y'all.

Posted: **Tue Apr 22, 2014 9:17 pm**

Tony McGahan wrote:
The Ginger Jedi wrote:Doesn't Jon get killed at the end of ADWD?
Yes, but Melisandre will resurrect him in the next one because he is The Prince That Was Promised/ Azor Ahai Reborn.

No confirmation that Jon is dead, merely stabbed to fudge.

50 cent got shot 9 times and lived ffs.

Posted: **Tue Apr 22, 2014 9:19 pm**

Tony McGahan wrote:
Floppykid wrote:
Tony McGahan wrote:
Floppykid wrote:If Jon's dead the series would really be gone to shit.
He has to be involved in the climax.
Fat chance of him actually been dead, unfortunately.
He's one of the few interesting characters left.
He's Ned-lite, especially in the last one. I guess he was semi interesting in books 1-3 (still kinda dull), but I swear, by ADWD, he was basically a Ned clone. Not as much as Robb obviously but he made some spectacularly dumb decisions in book five all in the name of honour, or some such bullshit.

The events surrounding him are interesting obviously, but it's a case of bad character in a good storyline for me. Still better than Dany which is a shit character in a shit storyline, mind.

The fifth book turned all the characters to shit.
Tyrion being the worst and most prime example.

"Where do whores go?"
And wondering about f**king turtles for chapter after chapter.
Awful.

Posted: **Tue Apr 22, 2014 9:19 pm**

danthefan wrote:
Malahide Mullet wrote:I asked this before

But how many stabs did he take? 4ish?
I think it was 4. Thinking he may just straight up survive instead of going warg or turning into a living god?

If the Nights Watch fellas wanted to kill him, they would've properly killed him. These guys have been dealing with zombies and other resurrections for a few months now; if they had the time, they would've burned his body to make sure.

Jon's only hopes of survival are warging into Ghost or Melissandre or similar interrupting in time.

Posted: **Tue Apr 22, 2014 9:21 pm**

DOB wrote:
danthefan wrote:
Malahide Mullet wrote:I asked this before

But how many stabs did he take? 4ish?
I think it was 4. Thinking he may just straight up survive instead of going warg or turning into a living god?
If the Nights Watch fellas wanted to kill him, they would've properly killed him. These guys have been dealing with zombies and other resurrections for a few months now; if they had the time, they would've burned his body to make sure.

Jon's only hopes of survival are warging into Ghost or Melissandre or similar interrupting in time.

Does he have any allies left at the wall? Could someone jump in at the last minute to save him?

Posted: **Tue Apr 22, 2014 9:22 pm**

Pyp and the lads.

Stannis has men there.

Posted: **Tue Apr 22, 2014 9:28 pm**

Stewards, not rangers did the stabbing, so a good chance they botched the job. He also 'didn't feel' the fourth blow - perhaps because it never fell and he was rescued ? Who takes over the Wall POV if Jon Snow dies ?

Posted: **Tue Apr 22, 2014 9:29 pm**

camroc1 wrote:Stewards, not rangers did the stabbing, so a good chance they botched the job. He also 'didn't feel' the fourth blow - perhaps because it never fell and he was rescued ? Who takes over the Wall POV if Jon Snow dies ?

Mel

Posted: **Tue Apr 22, 2014 9:30 pm**

danthefan wrote:
DOB wrote:
danthefan wrote:
Malahide Mullet wrote:I asked this before

But how many stabs did he take? 4ish?
I think it was 4. Thinking he may just straight up survive instead of going warg or turning into a living god?
If the Nights Watch fellas wanted to kill him, they would've properly killed him. These guys have been dealing with zombies and other resurrections for a few months now; if they had the time, they would've burned his body to make sure.

Jon's only hopes of survival are warging into Ghost or Melissandre or similar interrupting in time.
Does he have any allies left at the wall? Could someone jump in at the last minute to save him?

Wildlings.

Posted: **Tue Apr 22, 2014 9:35 pm**

EverReady wrote:This thread is an abomination- anybody who has read the book is a f**king nerd and Mullet starts the f**king thing. My world view needs changing again

Wibble.

Posted: **Tue Apr 22, 2014 9:52 pm**

EverReady wrote:
Boobs not Moobs wrote:
EverReady wrote:This thread is an abomination- anybody who has read the book is a f**king nerd and Mullet starts the f**king thing. My world view needs changing again
Wibble.
We know you are a nerd what with all the bargain* hunting malarckey but Mullet was different until today

*thanking you for a few of them

I'm glad someone finds them useful. Have you seen you can get two months of nowTV for free - can you access it online where you are?

I still haven't unboxed my steam mop.

Posted: **Tue Apr 22, 2014 9:54 pm**

EverReady wrote:
Boobs not Moobs wrote:
EverReady wrote:Hodor Hodor- Hodor Hodor Hodor Hodor Hodor Hodor. Hodor Hodor Hodor Hodor.
Wibble.
Hodor Hodor Hodor Hodor* Hodor Hodor. Hodor Hodor Hodor Hodor.

Hodor Hodor.

Posted: **Tue Apr 22, 2014 9:59 pm**

Hold the f**king phone, they made books out of this tv show?

Posted: **Tue Apr 22, 2014 10:02 pm**

Womens work Ever?

Mother of jaysis and the ghost of Ronnie Drew.

Posted: **Tue Apr 22, 2014 10:13 pm**

Malahide Mullet wrote:Pyp and the lads.

Stannis has men there.

Grenn and the boys are solid enough.

Posted: **Tue Apr 22, 2014 10:29 pm**

EverReady wrote:
Malahide Mullet wrote:Womens work Ever?

Mother of jaysis and the ghost of Ronnie Drew.
Ronnie says to me when I was a chisler 'sure if only there was a machine that washed the floors I'd nearly do it for Deirdre but there isn't so there youse goes. Swear to me ER if there is ever a machine that washes the floors and goes pssssssst you will do them in me honour'

"Don't be lazy Ma"

"You're right son, hand me me rosary beads"

Posted: **Wed Apr 23, 2014 2:11 am**

Didnt like the rape scene as others have said. Poor change fromt he book IMO. That said I dont remember them firing the barrells of chains into Meereen.. that was a f**king ace change.

WHat the fudge was going on with Littlefingers accent btw

Posted: **Wed Apr 23, 2014 5:48 am**

Considering Baelish was from the Vale, grew up in the Riverlands and has lived for years in Kings Landing, it would be expected that his accent was a weird mismatch of a bunch of places

Posted: **Wed Apr 23, 2014 6:30 am**

Zakar wrote:Considering Baelish was from the Vale, grew up in the Riverlands and has lived for years in Kings Landing, it would be expected that his accent was a weird mismatch of a bunch of places

I figure he has heard all the criticism and is now just merking all the Brits\Celts by hamming it up.

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