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Last year’s u20s gave me a lot of hope with the way they ran the ball. I thought we were witnessing a genuine change in mindset at this level. It’s been bloody disappointing watching this team’s style of play. A real lack of confidence, intelligence and innovation.

sunnybanana wrote:Last year’s u20s gave me a lot of hope with the way they ran the ball. I thought we were witnessing a genuine change in mindset at this level. It’s been bloody disappointing watching this team’s style of play. A real lack of confidence, intelligence and innovation.

it's the best we have

Bokkies & midgets playing the same time vs England

Junior Boks prop Nathan McBeth has been ruled out of their semi-final against England on Tuesday with a broken finger.

McBeth, who rejoined the team after playing for Scotland U20 in the Six Nations, injured his finger in the 46-29 loss to France.

The loosehead will be replaced by Leon Lyons, who formed a solid front-row combination with Junior Boks hooker Schalk Erasmus and tighthead Sazi Sandi for Western Province U19 last year.

http://www.sarugbymag.co.za/mcbeth-blow ... pringboks/

Jensrsa wrote:

Junior Boks prop Nathan McBeth has been ruled out of their semi-final against England on Tuesday with a broken finger.

McBeth, who rejoined the team after playing for Scotland U20 in the Six Nations, injured his finger in the 46-29 loss to France.

The loosehead will be replaced by Leon Lyons, who formed a solid front-row combination with Junior Boks hooker Schalk Erasmus and tighthead Sazi Sandi for Western Province U19 last year.

http://www.sarugbymag.co.za/mcbeth-blow ... pringboks/

Its do or die time. Our line out.

OomPB wrote:

Jensrsa wrote:

Junior Boks prop Nathan McBeth has been ruled out of their semi-final against England on Tuesday with a broken finger.

McBeth, who rejoined the team after playing for Scotland U20 in the Six Nations, injured his finger in the 46-29 loss to France.

The loosehead will be replaced by Leon Lyons, who formed a solid front-row combination with Junior Boks hooker Schalk Erasmus and tighthead Sazi Sandi for Western Province U19 last year.

http://www.sarugbymag.co.za/mcbeth-blow ... pringboks/

Its do or die time. Our line out.

That is a shame - I thought McBeth was one of the better front rowers. England will target our lineout so we better have sorted it out.

Tough loss in the end. Even with the poor start we had a chance but missed conversions killed us in the end.

What was evident to me, even in the Ireland game, was that the team is very poorly coached.

For a guy who was a bok defensive coach, Chean Roux has done terribly on defence with these guys.

saffer13 wrote:Tough loss in the end. Even with the poor start we had a chance but missed conversions killed us in the end.

Letting in 3 tries before getting on the scoreboard is what killed them in the end.

Always sad to lose against England. at least the players show some heart going down. Lots of ifs but agree on the coaching remarks. We have mention this many times on the schoolboy thread about our rugby. On schoolboy level we play running rugby but as soon as twe go one level up, the kick rugby starts. At least this year our S15 teams change this. This u20 team have so much talent when they played on schoolboy level but this tournament they played this pick and go and Burger kicking from 9 gameplan. But you cant expect anything less from Louis Koen.

We have so many good schoolboy coaches, lets hope they get a guy like Sean Erasmus on board.

I am sorry but I did not see a single baby bok player that screams out....." watch me ".

Jensrsa wrote:

saffer13 wrote:Tough loss in the end. Even with the poor start we had a chance but missed conversions killed us in the end.

Letting in 3 tries before getting on the scoreboard is what killed them in the end.

Yes but even with that we still fought back and gave ourselves a chance. Goal kicking could have sealed it in the end.

Agree with Beaver though, team looks poorly coached.

OomPB wrote:Always sad to lose against England. at least the players show some heart going down. Lots of ifs but agree on the coaching remarks. We have mention this many times on the schoolboy thread about our rugby. On schoolboy level we play running rugby but as soon as twe go one level up, the kick rugby starts. At least this year our S15 teams change this. This u20 team have so much talent when they played on schoolboy level but this tournament they played this pick and go and Burger kicking from 9 gameplan. But you cant expect anything less from Louis Koen.

We have so many good schoolboy coaches, lets hope they get a guy like Sean Erasmus on board.

Agree. Lots of aimless kicking, even at the end when we needed to hold onto the ball.

saffer13 wrote:

OomPB wrote:Always sad to lose against England. at least the players show some heart going down. Lots of ifs but agree on the coaching remarks. We have mention this many times on the schoolboy thread about our rugby. On schoolboy level we play running rugby but as soon as twe go one level up, the kick rugby starts. At least this year our S15 teams change this. This u20 team have so much talent when they played on schoolboy level but this tournament they played this pick and go and Burger kicking from 9 gameplan. But you cant expect anything less from Louis Koen.

We have so many good schoolboy coaches, lets hope they get a guy like Sean Erasmus on board.

Agree. Lots of aimless kicking, even at the end when we needed to hold onto the ball.

In the first Test we kicked a lot. And recovered the ball. And played a lot of rugby. The Bok way.

Wilson's Toffee wrote:

saffer13 wrote:

OomPB wrote:Always sad to lose against England. at least the players show some heart going down. Lots of ifs but agree on the coaching remarks. We have mention this many times on the schoolboy thread about our rugby. On schoolboy level we play running rugby but as soon as twe go one level up, the kick rugby starts. At least this year our S15 teams change this. This u20 team have so much talent when they played on schoolboy level but this tournament they played this pick and go and Burger kicking from 9 gameplan. But you cant expect anything less from Louis Koen.

We have so many good schoolboy coaches, lets hope they get a guy like Sean Erasmus on board.

Agree. Lots of aimless kicking, even at the end when we needed to hold onto the ball.

In the first Test we kicked a lot. And recovered the ball. And played a lot of rugby. The Bok way.

I said "aimless"

And we had some of that in the first test as well btw

saffer13 wrote:

Wilson's Toffee wrote:

saffer13 wrote:

OomPB wrote:Always sad to lose against England. at least the players show some heart going down. Lots of ifs but agree on the coaching remarks. We have mention this many times on the schoolboy thread about our rugby. On schoolboy level we play running rugby but as soon as twe go one level up, the kick rugby starts. At least this year our S15 teams change this. This u20 team have so much talent when they played on schoolboy level but this tournament they played this pick and go and Burger kicking from 9 gameplan. But you cant expect anything less from Louis Koen.

We have so many good schoolboy coaches, lets hope they get a guy like Sean Erasmus on board.

Agree. Lots of aimless kicking, even at the end when we needed to hold onto the ball.

In the first Test we kicked a lot. And recovered the ball. And played a lot of rugby. The Bok way.

I said "aimless"

And we had some of that in the first test as well btw

Practice makes perfect. Ask Faf.

The disappointing part of the Baby Boks' performance in the JRWC is that they were probably better prepared than in recent years having played pre-tournament matches against Georgia and toured the UK playing Wales, Scotland and England but in the tournament they just didn't gel and looked unprepared, especially during the first 20-30 minutes of games

Like the Big Boks ...

Wilson's Toffee wrote:Like the Big Boks ...

You mean the big Boks who have had no warm-up games and a week to prepare? Those Boks?

saffer13 wrote:

Wilson's Toffee wrote:Like the Big Boks ...

You mean the big Boks who have had no warm-up games and a week to prepare? Those Boks?

Our boys actually had 2 weeks of training. The team that played England that is. The Welsh boks had 2 days

saffer13 wrote:

Wilson's Toffee wrote:Like the Big Boks ...

You mean the big Boks who have had no warm-up games and a week to prepare? Those Boks?

Is that the excuse now ...

Time for the AC favourite Chean Roux to go hey.

Junior Springbok Tiaan van der Merwe is in hot water after being charged with verbal abuse during his side's semi-final loss to England at the Junior World Championship on Tuesday.

The incident took place in the 50th minute of the match when Van der Merwe, the side's hooker, allegedly abused one of the England forwards.

Van der Merwe, who is from the Golden Lions, will sit before a disciplinary committee at the end of the tournament on Monday, June 18.

SA Rugby confirmed that the hearing would take place, but would not confirm - or deny - that the incident in question stemmed from any alleged racism on the field.

https://www.sport24.co.za/Rugby/junior- ... e-20180615

OomPB wrote:Always sad to lose against England.

Go bokkie

Kiwis shit themselves when they see Trevor Nyakane Mk.2 running at them

Been a great match. I really dont get it. Baby blacks are our bitches at this level but as they get older it all falls to pieces. Is it the poaches that makes the difference....?

It must be.. but don't mention that to them

Anonymous. wrote:

OomPB wrote:Always sad to lose against England.

Always awesome to beat NZ

This is better winning the JWC title

Sadly all the big critics here have gone AWOL?

OomPB wrote:

Anonymous. wrote:

OomPB wrote:Always sad to lose against England.

Always awesome to beat NZ

This is better winning the JWC title

No it isn't.

I had stated before that there are no standouts from this batch to floow.

I may have to eat my words....

Sards wrote:I had stated before that there are no standouts from this batch to floow.

I may have to eat my words....

From the bits I've seen and read Simelane had a good tournament, Tyrone Green was a livewire and he was all over the place on defence trying to cover but not always making his tackles.

Zac Burger was disappointing and Rewan Kruger seemed more solid at 9 in the last game.

I’d love to know who decided Tyrone Green is best utilised on the wing. He’s a fantastic 10 and should be played there. It’s mind boggling.
Buthelezi made an absolute fool of Chean Roux with his performance against the Baby Blacks. He was the best player on the field bar none yet was only called up to the squad due to injury. It’s scary that guys like that are potentially falling through the cracks when so much mediocrity is getting awarded with selection and being sent on the high road to the top level. There are some bizarrely moderate players in that team.

Jensrsa wrote:

Sards wrote:I had stated before that there are no standouts from this batch to floow.

I may have to eat my words....

From the bits I've seen and read Simelane had a good tournament, Tyrone Green was a livewire and he was all over the place on defence trying to cover but not always making his tackles.

Zac Burger was disappointing and Rewan Kruger seemed more solid at 9 in the last game.

He was awful in the 15 minutes he played before getting injured.

OomPB wrote:

Anonymous. wrote:

OomPB wrote:Always sad to lose against England.

Always awesome to beat NZ

This is better winning the JWC title

More and more delusion...

sunnybanana wrote:I’d love to know who decided Tyrone Green is best utilised on the wing. He’s a fantastic 10 and should be played there. It’s mind boggling.
Buthelezi made an absolute fool of Chean Roux with his performance against the Baby Blacks. He was the best player on the field bar none yet was only called up to the squad due to injury. It’s scary that guys like that are potentially falling through the cracks when so much mediocrity is getting awarded with selection and being sent on the high road to the top level. There are some bizarrely moderate players in that team.

I missed yesterday's game, but I'm glad to hear that Buthelezi had a blinder. I saw him lead KZN at Craven Week last year, and he was comfortably the best forward during the week.

Good thing is that he's only 19 and will be back again next year.

I do hope that Chean Roux gets the chop though.

sunnybanana wrote:I’d love to know who decided Tyrone Green is best utilised on the wing. He’s a fantastic 10 and should be played there. It’s mind boggling.
Buthelezi made an absolute fool of Chean Roux with his performance against the Baby Blacks. He was the best player on the field bar none yet was only called up to the squad due to injury. It’s scary that guys like that are potentially falling through the cracks when so much mediocrity is getting awarded with selection and being sent on the high road to the top level. There are some bizarrely moderate players in that team.

Tyrone Green played mainly fullback for Wits in the VC this year with Christian Humphries at 10

sunnybanana wrote:I’d love to know who decided Tyrone Green is best utilised on the wing. He’s a fantastic 10 and should be played there. It’s mind boggling.
Buthelezi made an absolute fool of Chean Roux with his performance against the Baby Blacks. He was the best player on the field bar none yet was only called up to the squad due to injury. It’s scary that guys like that are potentially falling through the cracks when so much mediocrity is getting awarded with selection and being sent on the high road to the top level. There are some bizarrely moderate players in that team.

pretty sad, WP Craven Week team is just out and the best nr8 (Cordy) & wing (Remy Engelbrecht) in SA did not made the team. Vok knows how they fell through the cracks?

OomPB wrote:

sunnybanana wrote:I’d love to know who decided Tyrone Green is best utilised on the wing. He’s a fantastic 10 and should be played there. It’s mind boggling.
Buthelezi made an absolute fool of Chean Roux with his performance against the Baby Blacks. He was the best player on the field bar none yet was only called up to the squad due to injury. It’s scary that guys like that are potentially falling through the cracks when so much mediocrity is getting awarded with selection and being sent on the high road to the top level. There are some bizarrely moderate players in that team.

pretty sad, WP Craven Week team is just out and the best nr8 (Cordy) & wing (Remy Engelbrecht) in SA did not made the team. Vok knows how they fell through the cracks?

Jup. Cannot make an omelet without breaking eggs - or a rugby team without breaking hearts.