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Posted: **Fri Dec 04, 2015 8:42 am**

By a bigger winning % margin

Surely an outstanding, critically important result for Labour and Corbyn

And a great endorsement for a fairer, peace loving country.

I hope Corbyn holds on to the leadership and Labour work to kick out all of these pro war scum MPs.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-35003152

Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn has hailed a "vote of confidence" in his party after it comfortably held the Oldham West and Royton seat in a by-election.

Its candidate Jim McMahon secured a 10,835-vote majority from UKIP's John Bickley and a 62% vote share that was higher than at the general election.

UKIP's Nigel Farage called the result "perverse", and said there had been reports the postal vote was rigged.

The Conservatives came third in the poll.

Live: Oldham by-election reaction

The by-election was triggered by the death of long-serving Labour MP Michael Meacher.

Mr McMahon said he had "delivered a result that Michael would be proud of".

Labour was defending a 14,738 majority from the general election.

While its total majority was lower this time around, it ended up with a higher vote share as the turnout - just over 40% - was lower than at May's poll.
'Clear demonstration'

The by-election - the first of this Parliament - was also the first major electoral test for Mr Corbyn, who was elected leader by more than half the party's membership in September.

He has faced criticism from some within his party, with few of his MPs having backed his leadership campaign while senior figures warned he would damage Labour's electoral chances.

Mr Corbyn said: "By-elections can be difficult for the party holding the seat, and turnouts are often low.

"But to increase our share of the vote since the general election is a vote of confidence in our party.

"It's a clear demonstration that Labour is the party working people trust."

Posted: **Fri Dec 04, 2015 8:51 am**

Yes By-election victories in safe seats are an excellent predictor of future general election results.

Posted: **Fri Dec 04, 2015 8:58 am**

This

Labour set for dismal Oldham West by-election result thanks ...

was updated to

Oldham West by-election: Labour defies fears of slashed majority in first test under Jeremy Corbyn

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/ol ... es-6949526

Posted: **Fri Dec 04, 2015 9:03 am**

Alternative interpretation:

Voters in Oldham now convinced Corbyn won't last long, so therefore nothing to worry about

Posted: **Fri Dec 04, 2015 9:03 am**

Why does it not surprise me that Silver is a Corbyn loon/fan

Posted: **Fri Dec 04, 2015 9:08 am**

HKCJ wrote:Why does it not surprise me that Silver is a Corbyn loon/fan

Future PM Corbyn fan after this outstanding victory

To start taking the UK back from the self centered greedy crocks that run it now.

Posted: **Fri Dec 04, 2015 9:10 am**

c69 wrote:
HKCJ wrote:Why does it not surprise me that Silver is a Corbyn loon/fan
You lot on the right have DAC and Dozy the left have Silver

I'm not on the left. Unless left means anti war, pro choice, lower tax, smaller Govt, anti AGW bullshit and a fairer society.

edit and pro free speech.

Posted: **Fri Dec 04, 2015 9:13 am**

Will be interesting to see the size of postal vote and the turnout percentages for each ward

Posted: **Fri Dec 04, 2015 9:16 am**

Silver wrote:By a bigger winning % margin

Surely an outstanding, critically important result for Labour and Corbyn

And a great endorsement for a fairer, peace loving country.

I hope Corbyn holds on to the leadership and Labour work to kick out all of these pro war scum MPs.

The left sure love using that word to describe people.

Anyone see QT, Nicky Morgan called Corbyn a terrorist sympathiser directly.

Posted: **Fri Dec 04, 2015 9:17 am**

Silver wrote:
c69 wrote:
HKCJ wrote:Why does it not surprise me that Silver is a Corbyn loon/fan
You lot on the right have DAC and Dozy the left have Silver
I'm not on the left. Unless left means anti war, pro choice, lower tax, smaller Govt, anti AGW bullshit and a fairer society.

edit and pro free speech.

You're all over the place son - Corbyn possibly believes in 2-3 things you've stated.

Tom Watson on BBC now effectively saying that bombing Syria is an issue that doesn't really matter

Posted: **Fri Dec 04, 2015 9:20 am**

Saint wrote:
Silver wrote:
c69 wrote:
HKCJ wrote:Why does it not surprise me that Silver is a Corbyn loon/fan
You lot on the right have DAC and Dozy the left have Silver
I'm not on the left. Unless left means anti war, pro choice, lower tax, smaller Govt, anti AGW bullshit and a fairer society.

edit and pro free speech.

You're all over the place son - Corbyn possibly believes in 2-3 things you've stated.

Tom Watson on BBC now effectively saying that bombing Syria is an issue that doesn't really matter

I'm never going to get 100%. It's all about the least bad option

Corbyn at least has his heart in the right place. Or has one.

Posted: **Fri Dec 04, 2015 9:21 am**

HKCJ wrote:Why does it not surprise me that Silver is a Corbyn loon/fan

What makes Corbyn a 'loon'?

Posted: **Fri Dec 04, 2015 9:22 am**

Silver wrote:
c69 wrote:
HKCJ wrote:Why does it not surprise me that Silver is a Corbyn loon/fan
You lot on the right have DAC and Dozy the left have Silver
I'm not on the left. Unless left means anti war, pro choice, lower tax, smaller Govt, anti AGW bullshit and a fairer society.

edit and pro free speech.

Gets my vote.....all aboard the Corbyn express...

Posted: **Fri Dec 04, 2015 9:22 am**

c69 wrote:
Frodder wrote:
HKCJ wrote:Why does it not surprise me that Silver is a Corbyn loon/fan

What makes Corbyn a 'loon'?
He is a left winger

That was in the centre once.

Posted: **Fri Dec 04, 2015 9:24 am**

Frodder wrote:
HKCJ wrote:Why does it not surprise me that Silver is a Corbyn loon/fan

What makes Corbyn a 'loon'?

Well lets start with the fact he believes he'd make a good prime minister when he's already told all and sundry our nuclear deterrent is technically redundant. He's a very honest man which is a highly admirable quality of course and one that I look for in my bank manager but not the man in charge of the UK defences.

Posted: **Fri Dec 04, 2015 9:24 am**

Saint wrote:
Silver wrote:
c69 wrote:
HKCJ wrote:Why does it not surprise me that Silver is a Corbyn loon/fan
You lot on the right have DAC and Dozy the left have Silver
I'm not on the left. Unless left means anti war, pro choice, lower tax, smaller Govt, anti AGW bullshit and a fairer society.

edit and pro free speech.

You're all over the place son - Corbyn possibly believes in 2-3 things you've stated.

Tom Watson on BBC now effectively saying that bombing Syria is an issue that doesn't really matter

What the f++k does he mean by this

Posted: **Fri Dec 04, 2015 9:25 am**

Silver wrote:
c69 wrote:
HKCJ wrote:Why does it not surprise me that Silver is a Corbyn loon/fan
You lot on the right have DAC and Dozy the left have Silver
I'm not on the left. Unless left means anti war, pro choice, lower tax, smaller Govt, anti AGW bullshit and a fairer society.

edit and pro free speech.

It means higher tax, huge government, AGW all the way, a massive redistribution of wealth (not fairly) and free speech will be crushed.

you are the analyst on PR. We most look for silver.

Posted: **Fri Dec 04, 2015 9:26 am**

HKCJ wrote:
Frodder wrote:
HKCJ wrote:Why does it not surprise me that Silver is a Corbyn loon/fan

What makes Corbyn a 'loon'?

Well lets start with the fact he believes he'd make a good prime minister when he's already told all and sundry our nuclear deterrent is technically redundant. He's a very honest man which is a highly admirable quality of course and one that I look for in my bank manager but not the man in charge of the UK defences.

So would you like to see nuclear weapons used?

Posted: **Fri Dec 04, 2015 9:26 am**

c69 wrote:
Frodder wrote:
HKCJ wrote:Why does it not surprise me that Silver is a Corbyn loon/fan

What makes Corbyn a 'loon'?
He is a left winger

gotcha. Daily Mail readers of the world - unite

Posted: **Fri Dec 04, 2015 9:28 am**

Did I say that? Of course I wouldn't but I'd also not like to see the leader of my country not make them a very expensive and very empty threat. He'd play poker with his cards facing up the man.

Posted: **Fri Dec 04, 2015 9:28 am**

HKCJ wrote:
Frodder wrote:
HKCJ wrote:Why does it not surprise me that Silver is a Corbyn loon/fan

What makes Corbyn a 'loon'?

Well lets start with the fact he believes he'd make a good prime minister when he's already told all and sundry our nuclear deterrent is technically redundant. He's a very honest man which is a highly admirable quality of course and one that I look for in my bank manager but not the man in charge of the UK defences.

and that makes him a loon - gotcha

Posted: **Fri Dec 04, 2015 9:29 am**

well actually the loon was aimed more at SIlver. Corby is just deluded and naive

Posted: **Fri Dec 04, 2015 9:30 am**

bimboman wrote:
Silver wrote:
c69 wrote:
HKCJ wrote:Why does it not surprise me that Silver is a Corbyn loon/fan
You lot on the right have DAC and Dozy the left have Silver
I'm not on the left. Unless left means anti war, pro choice, lower tax, smaller Govt, anti AGW bullshit and a fairer society.

edit and pro free speech.

It means higher tax, huge government, AGW all the way, a massive redistribution of wealth (not fairly) and free speech will be crushed.

you are the analyst on PR. We most look for silver.

A balanced budget will mean higher tax. That's for certain as neither party will cut spending

The West must move to higher deficits otherwise it's finished. Especially to help finance investments in say housing or clean energy. Corbyn is open to this possibility and kind of understands this subject. Cameron would sooner see the UK on its knees.

Posted: **Fri Dec 04, 2015 9:32 am**

The West must move to higher deficits otherwise it's finished

Posted: **Fri Dec 04, 2015 9:33 am**

Frodder wrote:
HKCJ wrote:
Frodder wrote:
HKCJ wrote:Why does it not surprise me that Silver is a Corbyn loon/fan

What makes Corbyn a 'loon'?

Well lets start with the fact he believes he'd make a good prime minister when he's already told all and sundry our nuclear deterrent is technically redundant. He's a very honest man which is a highly admirable quality of course and one that I look for in my bank manager but not the man in charge of the UK defences.
and that makes him a loon - gotcha

No, being a man who is destroying a major political party with his deeds and words while believing the complete opposite shows a disconnect that must be close to madness.

Posted: **Fri Dec 04, 2015 9:34 am**

HKCJ wrote:well actually the loon was aimed more at SIlver. Corby is just deluded and naive

Go away please. (Its boring if this is all you can contribute).

Corbyn is someone who (it seems) isn't totally controlled by the ruling financial elite. And just there to do their bidding

But you are too brain washed to see this.

Posted: **Fri Dec 04, 2015 9:40 am**

HKCJ wrote:Did I say that? Of course I wouldn't but I'd also not like to see the leader of my country not make them a very expensive and very empty threat. He'd play poker with his cards facing up the man.

Everyone knows a country like the UK can NOT start throwing nuclear bombs around. Why should a potential leader not say this

Or should he lie and treat the public as fools. As many politicians do.

Posted: **Fri Dec 04, 2015 9:53 am**

This result clearly shows Corbyn is the right man to take Labour into the 2020 election and any dissidents must be crushed.

Posted: **Fri Dec 04, 2015 9:54 am**

Thanks goodness for this result I was really worried that Corbyn would be sacked before the next GE giving labour a tiny chance of winning it...

Posted: **Fri Dec 04, 2015 9:56 am**

Silver wrote:
Or should he lie and treat the public as fools. As many politicians do.

They are.

The Daily Mail is the most popular website in the World for fūcks sake.

Posted: **Fri Dec 04, 2015 9:57 am**

tc27 wrote:This result clearly shows Corbyn is the right man to take Labour into the 2020 election and any dissidents must be crushed.

I agree starting with that revisonist capitalist running dog and lick spittle Hilary Benn.

Posted: **Fri Dec 04, 2015 9:58 am**

Saint wrote: Tom Watson on BBC now effectively saying that bombing Syria is an issue that doesn't really matter

He's correct, unless you're talking about the politics of it which is functioning as yet another front on which Corbyn looks completely out of control

Posted: **Fri Dec 04, 2015 9:59 am**

Silver wrote:
HKCJ wrote:Did I say that? Of course I wouldn't but I'd also not like to see the leader of my country not make them a very expensive and very empty threat. He'd play poker with his cards facing up the man.
Everyone knows a country like the UK can NOT start throwing nuclear bombs around. Why should a potential leader not say this

Or should he lie and treat the public as fools. As many politicians do.

si vis pacem para bellum

Posted: **Fri Dec 04, 2015 9:59 am**

Another UKIP false dawn then.

Carswell must wonder what the f*ck he got himself into.

Posted: **Fri Dec 04, 2015 9:59 am**

Silver wrote:
HKCJ wrote:Did I say that? Of course I wouldn't but I'd also not like to see the leader of my country not make them a very expensive and very empty threat. He'd play poker with his cards facing up the man.
Everyone knows a country like the UK can NOT start throwing nuclear bombs around. Why should a potential leader not say this

Or should he lie and treat the public as fools. As many politicians do.

There is a reason politicians sometimes have to lie to the public like idiots it's because by and large they mostly are.

Posted: **Fri Dec 04, 2015 10:17 am**

Frodder wrote:
HKCJ wrote:Why does it not surprise me that Silver is a Corbyn loon/fan

What makes Corbyn a 'loon'?

His communist, terrorist supporting, open borders, anti-army, Pro-Palestine views make him an absolute plum. I don't understand why anyone would agree with anything he says.

Lets not forget that socialism is taking from those who've earned money, and giving it to those who haven't. Its is fundamentally flawed, and defies all common sense.

Posted: **Fri Dec 04, 2015 10:26 am**

Interesting goalpost shifting from the bored tories who were salivating at the prospect of a labour defeat.

Posted: **Fri Dec 04, 2015 10:27 am**

Uncle Fester wrote:Interesting goalpost shifting from the bored tories who were salivating at the prospect of a Labour defeat.

In Oldham? They must have been on the glue last week.

Posted: **Fri Dec 04, 2015 10:28 am**

c69 wrote:
HKCJ wrote:
Silver wrote:
HKCJ wrote:Did I say that? Of course I wouldn't but I'd also not like to see the leader of my country not make them a very expensive and very empty threat. He'd play poker with his cards facing up the man.
Everyone knows a country like the UK can NOT start throwing nuclear bombs around. Why should a potential leader not say this

Or should he lie and treat the public as fools. As many politicians do.

There is a reason politicians sometimes have to lie to the public like idiots it's because by and large they mostly are.

Quod erat demonstrandum

Posted: **Fri Dec 04, 2015 10:31 am**

Uncle Fester wrote:Interesting goalpost shifting from the bored tories who were salivating at the prospect of a labour defeat.

No, most bored Tories were hoping for a labour win. UKIP are more dangerous until the vote is over next year. Plus they want Corbyn leading labour into the next election.

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