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100MileDad wrote:

The EU isn't perfect but never has it been so good to live in Europe. Listen you made your bed and have to live with it.

I'll be waving at you from the fast lane in the airport

In what way?

As for travelling within Europe, nothing has changed in the last 30 years. I can still remember travelling to Europe on a 6 month passport you filled out at the post office.

I am a telco networks engineer, if I run out of work here, I can get a job in Netherlands, Sweden, Luxembourg or Belgium immediately without any poxy work permit or other forms of bureaucracy holding me up. People are not tied to their own country. That way.

When you leave for a holiday on the continent, you will be filling out an online ESTA type form for travelling to the EU (Ireland excepted due to CTA) . You will be queuing with the Russians and Yanks in the slow lane for immigration on the continent. I don't think you'll mind though after all, you've taken back control

I've been away, has the subject of Germany shamefully rigging the value of the Euro been discussed?

100MileDad wrote:I've been away, has the subject of Germany shamefully rigging the value of the Euro been discussed?

Those dastardly Germans. We won the war yada yada yada........

iarmhiman wrote: The EU isn't perfect but never has it been so good to live in Europe.

It's never been so good to live in lots of countries that have bugger all to do with the EU.

iarmhiman wrote:

100MileDad wrote:I've been away, has the subject of Germany shamefully rigging the value of the Euro been discussed?

Those dastardly Germans. We won the war yada yada yada........

eh?

http://fortune.com/2014/10/22/why-germa ... ree-rider/

100MileDad wrote:I've been away, has the subject of Germany shamefully rigging the value of the Euro been discussed?

No, but the Chinese use a similar trick to assist with their own economy.

100MileDad wrote:

iarmhiman wrote:

100MileDad wrote:I've been away, has the subject of Germany shamefully rigging the value of the Euro been discussed?

Those dastardly Germans. We won the war yada yada yada........

eh?

http://fortune.com/2014/10/22/why-germa ... ree-rider/

The Germans actually manufacture goods and sell them. They don't totally rely on a glorified casino ie the City of London to bankroll them.

That's why they're successsful

iarmhiman wrote:

100MileDad wrote:

iarmhiman wrote:

100MileDad wrote:I've been away, has the subject of Germany shamefully rigging the value of the Euro been discussed?

Those dastardly Germans. We won the war yada yada yada........

eh?

http://fortune.com/2014/10/22/why-germa ... ree-rider/

The Germans actually manufacture goods and sell them. They don't totally rely on a glorified casino ie the City of London to bankroll them.

That's why they're successsful

Life is so simple

100MileDad wrote:

They somehow still come across as more trustworthy than the brits somehow.

Which is why you're their bitch, which is why you've always been their bitch and the only time you're not their bitch is when we're helping you.

You have been a colony, England's bitches for centuries you fake transparent Celt slave.

iarmhiman wrote:

100MileDad wrote:

The EU isn't perfect but never has it been so good to live in Europe. Listen you made your bed and have to live with it.

I'll be waving at you from the fast lane in the airport

In what way?

As for travelling within Europe, nothing has changed in the last 30 years. I can still remember travelling to Europe on a 6 month passport you filled out at the post office.

I am a telco networks engineer, if I run out of work here, I can get a job in Netherlands, Sweden, Luxembourg or Belgium immediately without any poxy work permit or other forms of bureaucracy holding me up. People are not tied to their own country. That way.

When you leave for a holiday on the continent, you will be filling out an online ESTA type form for travelling to the EU (Ireland excepted due to CTA) . You will be queuing with the Russians and Yanks in the slow lane for immigration on the continent. I don't think you'll mind though after all, you've taken back control

You think moving to most of the EU 27 comes without bureaucracy ? ? Blimey. We will get the same passport deal as Switzerland. Silly.

Gospel wrote:

shereblue wrote:Returning to facts rather than "predictions", when the UK voted to join the EU in 1973, there was a repeat performance in 1975. There is nothing to actually stop there being another referendum on the subject of withdrawal. Remember the fixed term parliaments? It's up to Parliament to decide.

The UK didn't actually hold a public vote on joining in 1973 unlike Ireland and Norway.

Fair comment

iarmhiman wrote:

100MileDad wrote:

iarmhiman wrote:

100MileDad wrote:I've been away, has the subject of Germany shamefully rigging the value of the Euro been discussed?

Those dastardly Germans. We won the war yada yada yada........

eh?

http://fortune.com/2014/10/22/why-germa ... ree-rider/

The Germans actually manufacture goods and sell them. They don't totally rely on a glorified casino ie the City of London to bankroll them.

That's why they're successsful

No they have a relative low wage and an artificial low currency at the expense of Southern Europe, they also protect their internal markets with state law. But yes they're the bestest. (In fairness they're good at manufacturing quality products).

It does make you wonder why they want so much of the city post brexit though. It sounds dangerous.

La soule wrote:

100MileDad wrote:

They somehow still come across as more trustworthy than the brits somehow.

Which is why you're their bitch, which is why you've always been their bitch and the only time you're not their bitch is when we're helping you.

You have been a colony, England's bitches for centuries you fake transparent Celt slave.

How does that work with you if I identify as British as my nationality, not Welsh or Scottish or English?

bimboman wrote:

iarmhiman wrote:

100MileDad wrote:

The EU isn't perfect but never has it been so good to live in Europe. Listen you made your bed and have to live with it.

I'll be waving at you from the fast lane in the airport

In what way?

As for travelling within Europe, nothing has changed in the last 30 years. I can still remember travelling to Europe on a 6 month passport you filled out at the post office.

I am a telco networks engineer, if I run out of work here, I can get a job in Netherlands, Sweden, Luxembourg or Belgium immediately without any poxy work permit or other forms of bureaucracy holding me up. People are not tied to their own country. That way.

When you leave for a holiday on the continent, you will be filling out an online ESTA type form for travelling to the EU (Ireland excepted due to CTA) . You will be queuing with the Russians and Yanks in the slow lane for immigration on the continent. I don't think you'll mind though after all, you've taken back control

You think moving to most of the EU 27 comes without bureaucracy ? ? Blimey. We will get the same passport deal as Switzerland. Silly.

You'll know all about it when you leave.

bimboman wrote:

iarmhiman wrote:

100MileDad wrote:

iarmhiman wrote:

100MileDad wrote:I've been away, has the subject of Germany shamefully rigging the value of the Euro been discussed?

Those dastardly Germans. We won the war yada yada yada........

eh?

http://fortune.com/2014/10/22/why-germa ... ree-rider/

The Germans actually manufacture goods and sell them. They don't totally rely on a glorified casino ie the City of London to bankroll them.

That's why they're successsful

No they have a relative low wage and an artificial low currency at the expense of Southern Europe, they also protect their internal markets with state law. But yes they're the bestest. (In fairness they're good at manufacturing quality products).

It does make you wonder why they want so much of the city post brexit though. It sounds dangerous.

Completely agree. I mean just picture Merkel with a mustache and it's back to the future again.

100MileDad wrote:

La soule wrote:

100MileDad wrote:

They somehow still come across as more trustworthy than the brits somehow.

Which is why you're their bitch, which is why you've always been their bitch and the only time you're not their bitch is when we're helping you.

You have been a colony, England's bitches for centuries you fake transparent Celt slave.

How does that work with you if I identify as British as my nationality, not Welsh or Scottish or English?

I would say that too if my country had been somebody else's play thing for centuries.

You'll know all about it when you leave.

Yeah, you think the Spanish, Portuguese and Greeks are going to make the British fill in Visas to go on holiday.

bimboman wrote:

You'll know all about it when you leave.

Yeah, you think the Spanish, Portuguese and Greeks are going to make the British fill in Visas to go on holiday.

English arrogance suggests you don't and here come the smileys again

Might just throw you onto ignore for a few hours. Don't want to be reported.

La soule wrote:

100MileDad wrote:

La soule wrote:

100MileDad wrote:

They somehow still come across as more trustworthy than the brits somehow.

Which is why you're their bitch, which is why you've always been their bitch and the only time you're not their bitch is when we're helping you.

You have been a colony, England's bitches for centuries you fake transparent Celt slave.

How does that work with you if I identify as British as my nationality, not Welsh or Scottish or English?

I would say that too if my country had been somebody else's play thing for centuries.

We will be saying it. He's British, we're European. European and proud

bimboman wrote:

iarmhiman wrote:

100MileDad wrote:

The EU isn't perfect but never has it been so good to live in Europe. Listen you made your bed and have to live with it.

I'll be waving at you from the fast lane in the airport

In what way?

As for travelling within Europe, nothing has changed in the last 30 years. I can still remember travelling to Europe on a 6 month passport you filled out at the post office.

I am a telco networks engineer, if I run out of work here, I can get a job in Netherlands, Sweden, Luxembourg or Belgium immediately without any poxy work permit or other forms of bureaucracy holding me up. People are not tied to their own country. That way.

When you leave for a holiday on the continent, you will be filling out an online ESTA type form for travelling to the EU (Ireland excepted due to CTA) . You will be queuing with the Russians and Yanks in the slow lane for immigration on the continent. I don't think you'll mind though after all, you've taken back control

You think moving to most of the EU 27 comes without bureaucracy ? ? Blimey. We will get the same passport deal as Switzerland. Silly.

Indeed, British tourists spend a lot of money with the EU, I think it would be a sensible policy to look after the British travellers.

We're European. European and proud

If that's how you identify then that's fine, I'm not and never will be European.

It's a lot like how you lot never felt British. So you blew up a post office. We voted Brexit.

There has been a lot of contradictory crap spouted out by brexiteers in the last couple of pages.

After stating many times that the vote to leave was to take back control (ie parliamentary sovereignty) they insinuate that a public vote to join the EEC might mean something. Well there were multiple votes to join in parliament who did vote in. Parliamentary sovereignty means just that.
Although never constitutionally required, when the public did decide the result was in. Arguments about the entity being joined seem fairly facile, as the last referendum has proved you do not know what you are leaving.

Then came the new members from the east. It was not us, guv, it was Americans.
Well grow up and get some balls.

100MileDad wrote:

We're European. European and proud

If that's how you identify then that's fine, I'm not and never will be European.

It's a lot like how you lot never felt British. So you blew up a post office. We voted Brexit.

Ah the classic English working class riposte to an Irish European. IRA innit.....

iarmhiman wrote:

100MileDad wrote:

We're European. European and proud

If that's how you identify then that's fine, I'm not and never will be European.

It's a lot like how you lot never felt British. So you blew up a post office. We voted Brexit.

Ah the classic English working class riposte to an Irish European. IRA innit.....

I'm merely pointing out that we're in fact similar. You didn't like something so you changed it, sod the consequences, so did we.

100MileDad wrote:

iarmhiman wrote:

100MileDad wrote:

We're European. European and proud

If that's how you identify then that's fine, I'm not and never will be European.

It's a lot like how you lot never felt British. So you blew up a post office. We voted Brexit.

Ah the classic English working class riposte to an Irish European. IRA innit.....

I'm merely point out that we're in fact similar. You didn't like something so you changed it, sod the consequences, so did we.

Difference was we were poor in the British empire....a farmyard for Britain if you like.

Britain was a main player in the EU

Ireland joined the EU because Britain joined the EU, then diversified its economy away from agriculture to services and benefited massively.

Britain is leaving the EU because its old farts have nostalgia for supposed better times in the past and also because they hate Eastern European foreigners and want to stop them entering the country

so not at all similar.

Leinster in London wrote:There has been a lot of contradictory crap spouted out by brexiteers in the last couple of pages.

After stating many times that the vote to leave was to take back control (ie parliamentary sovereignty) they insinuate that a public vote to join the EEC might mean something. Well there were multiple votes to join in parliament who did vote in. Parliamentary sovereignty means just that.
Although never constitutionally required, when the public did decide the result was in. Arguments about the entity being joined seem fairly facile, as the last referendum has proved you do not know what you are leaving.

Then came the new members from the east. It was not us, guv, it was Americans.
Well grow up and get some balls.

What are you dribbling on about now?

Britain is leaving the EU because its old farts have nostalgia for supposed better times in the past and also because they hate Eastern European foreigners

That's just in your head.

The reason why we left is that we don't like being told what to do and we can see the dangers of a large undemocractically responsible organisation.

bimboman wrote:
You think moving to most of the EU 27 comes without bureaucracy ? ? Blimey. We will get the same passport deal as Switzerland. Silly.

Wow, just wow.
Taking back control etc etc.
Leave the European Union totally,


but join the Schengen area.


Yes Bimbo, that's really going to happen.

100MileDad wrote:

Britain is leaving the EU because its old farts have nostalgia for supposed better times in the past and also because they hate Eastern European foreigners

That's just in your head.

The reason why we left is that we don't like being told what to do and we can see the dangers of a large undemocractically responsible organisation.

Best of luck in your FTA agreements with USA, Japan, China and Canada.

iarmhiman wrote:

100MileDad wrote:

iarmhiman wrote:

100MileDad wrote:

We're European. European and proud

If that's how you identify then that's fine, I'm not and never will be European.

It's a lot like how you lot never felt British. So you blew up a post office. We voted Brexit.

Ah the classic English working class riposte to an Irish European. IRA innit.....

I'm merely point out that we're in fact similar. You didn't like something so you changed it, sod the consequences, so did we.

Difference was we were poor in the British empire....a farmyard for Britain if you like.

Britain was a main player in the EU

Ireland joined the EU because Britain joined the EU, then diversified its economy away from agriculture to services and benefited massively.

Britain is leaving the EU because its old farts have nostalgia for supposed better times in the past and also because they hate Eastern European foreigners and want to stop them entering the country

so not at all similar.

What is this nonsense? Ireland, Norway and the UK were offered the opportunity to join the EEC in 1973. Ireland and Norway had a public vote, the UK did not.

iarmhiman wrote:

100MileDad wrote:

Britain is leaving the EU because its old farts have nostalgia for supposed better times in the past and also because they hate Eastern European foreigners

That's just in your head.

The reason why we left is that we don't like being told what to do and we can see the dangers of a large undemocractically responsible organisation.

Best of luck in your FTA agreements with USA, Japan, China and Canada.

Thanks.

100MileDad wrote:

We're European. European and proud

If that's how you identify then that's fine, I'm not and never will be European.

It's a lot like how you lot never felt British. So you blew up a post office. We voted Brexit.

Not sure about your heritage but I am guessing you are ethnically European.

I would not dream of coming between you and your counsellor as to how you "self-identify" however.

Let's be fair to the Irish lads on here, the one's with any brains are shitting it due to the potential effect if could have on their economy, no wonder they are lashing out.

Not sure about your heritage but I am guessing you are ethnically European.

So what?

100MileDad wrote:

Britain is leaving the EU because its old farts have nostalgia for supposed better times in the past and also because they hate Eastern European foreigners

That's just in your head.

The reason why we left is that we don't like being told what to do and we can see the dangers of a large undemocractically responsible organisation.

It's stating the obvious but British folk as existing members of a political Union are rather well versed in the dangers of centralised government which is why the majority of the population are against Ken Clarke's ambition to see Westminster reduced to merely a council chamber of the periphery of the European Superstate.

100MileDad wrote:

Not sure about your heritage but I am guessing you are ethnically European.

So what?

You seem very conflicted.

shereblue wrote:

100MileDad wrote:

Not sure about your heritage but I am guessing you are ethnically European.

So what?

You seem very conflicted.

Again, I'll ask, so what?

100MileDad wrote:

Britain is leaving the EU because its old farts have nostalgia for supposed better times in the past and also because they hate Eastern European foreigners

That's just in your head.

The reason why we left is that we don't like being told what to do and we can see the dangers of a large undemocractically responsible organisation.

Well bring on the revolution then, because the parliament will have power.

It's stating the obvious but British folk as existing members of a political Union are rather well versed in the dangers of centralised government which is why the majority of the population are against Ken Clarke's ambition to see Westminster reduced to merely a council chamber of the periphery of the European Superstate.

Surely it would be easier just to say that we don't like Polish people? Oh wait.

100MileDad wrote:Let's be fair to the Irish lads on here, the one's with any brains are shitting it due to the potential effect if could have on their economy, no wonder they are lashing out.

We don't know what affects it will have. It will certainly be negative for farmers but positive for services as they move here from the UK.

Win some lose some