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Author:  camroc1 [ Sun Apr 08, 2018 9:57 pm ]
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Petej wrote:
bimboman wrote:
One serious question ? How much of this activity is being transferred onto the Irish central bank balance sheet ?


Are they getting into the money laundering business as well?

It's just Bimbo trying to change the question. If, as the FT article states, the Irish office is a separate legal entity set up under Irish law, well then the CBOI will be the regulating banking authority of it, and of any branches it has whether in Paris or Frankfurt.

But Bimbo already knows this and is just playing silly buggers.

Author:  bimboman [ Mon Apr 09, 2018 12:40 am ]
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camroc1 wrote:
Petej wrote:
bimboman wrote:
One serious question ? How much of this activity is being transferred onto the Irish central bank balance sheet ?


Are they getting into the money laundering business as well?

It's just Bimbo trying to change the question. If, as the FT article states, the Irish office is a separate legal entity set up under Irish law, well then the CBOI will be the regulating banking authority of it, and of any branches it has whether in Paris or Frankfurt.

But Bimbo already knows this and is just playing silly buggers.



Full branches are regulated locally. If not good luck with French based derivative traders with an English bank backed by the Irish governemnt credit. :lol:

Author:  camroc1 [ Mon Apr 09, 2018 1:03 am ]
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bimboman wrote:
camroc1 wrote:
Petej wrote:
bimboman wrote:
One serious question ? How much of this activity is being transferred onto the Irish central bank balance sheet ?


Are they getting into the money laundering business as well?

It's just Bimbo trying to change the question. If, as the FT article states, the Irish office is a separate legal entity set up under Irish law, well then the CBOI will be the regulating banking authority of it, and of any branches it has whether in Paris or Frankfurt.

But Bimbo already knows this and is just playing silly buggers.



Full branches are regulated locally. If not good luck with French based derivative traders with an English bank backed by the Irish governemnt credit. :lol:

https://www.irishtimes.com/business/fin ... -1.3454864

Why don't you, for a change, read some of the links that are posted instead of going off on one.

Author:  Rinkals [ Mon Apr 09, 2018 6:43 am ]
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derriz wrote:
bimboman wrote:
I suggest you go there and discover how direct democracy and an decent attitude towards trade makes for a wonderful country and pretty good society.

I've been living in Switzerland for the last 8 years.

Anyone else would back off, but Bimbo will double down and suggest that you do some more reading.

Author:  DragsterDriver [ Tue Apr 10, 2018 10:34 am ]
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Happy anniversary GFA.

Author:  sewa [ Tue Apr 10, 2018 10:39 am ]
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bimboman wrote:
But I'm not La Soule , you're retarded.


That term x( You really need to get a grip with the personal abuse

Author:  camroc1 [ Tue Apr 10, 2018 10:42 am ]
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Speaking of which I see that Davis is making an ignorant arse of himself by claiming that Irish government policy on the Irish border has been strongly influenced by Sinn Féin.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

A FG government influenced by SF !

:lol: :lol: :lol:

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politic ... -1.3456731

Author:  La soule [ Tue Apr 10, 2018 10:51 am ]
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sewa wrote:
bimboman wrote:
But I'm not La Soule , you're retarded.


That term x( You really need to get a grip with the personal abuse



It is OK. The man has his limitations.

And was wrong.

Author:  Mullet 2 [ Tue Apr 10, 2018 10:53 am ]
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George Mitchell and David Trimble saying Brexit has the potential to reignite conflict in the North on the anniversary of the GFA.


#projectfear

Author:  piquant [ Tue Apr 10, 2018 10:55 am ]
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camroc1 wrote:
Speaking of which I see that Davis is making an ignorant arse of himself by claiming that Irish government policy on the Irish border has been strongly influenced by Sinn Féin.



He is the man described by the Vote Leave mob as thick as mince so it's not surprising.

Author:  piquant [ Tue Apr 10, 2018 11:06 am ]
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Does anyone understand what the government's current plans on Euratom are, how the timeline works, why they want to leave, etc.?

Author:  bimboman [ Tue Apr 10, 2018 11:20 am ]
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La soule wrote:
sewa wrote:
bimboman wrote:
But I'm not La Soule , you're retarded.


That term x( You really need to get a grip with the personal abuse



It is OK. The man has his limitations.

And was wrong.


1291 , Swiss confederacy. Poor until post World War Two.

You're a retard in any language you speak.

Author:  La soule [ Tue Apr 10, 2018 11:25 am ]
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bimboman wrote:
La soule wrote:
sewa wrote:
bimboman wrote:
But I'm not La Soule , you're retarded.


That term x( You really need to get a grip with the personal abuse



It is OK. The man has his limitations.

And was wrong.


1291 , Swiss confederacy. Poor until post World War Two.

You're a retard in any language you speak.


So it is not Switzerland anymore you arse wipe.....

Second part of your post is wrong too. Donkey.

Author:  Bullettyme [ Tue Apr 10, 2018 11:27 am ]
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Just read Davis's comments. First I thought the man was a complete idiot, but then I remembered somebody else had made similar comments a couple of months ago (IBS I think). Might just be an easy way of playing to the cheap seats at best, or at worst an ugly attempt to scapegoat.

Author:  bimboman [ Tue Apr 10, 2018 11:31 am ]
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La soule wrote:
bimboman wrote:
La soule wrote:
sewa wrote:
bimboman wrote:
But I'm not La Soule , you're retarded.


That term x( You really need to get a grip with the personal abuse



It is OK. The man has his limitations.

And was wrong.


1291 , Swiss confederacy. Poor until post World War Two.

You're a retard in any language you speak.


So it is not Switzerland anymore you arse wipe.....

Second part of your post is wrong too. Donkey.



SWISS.... You stupid c unt.

Author:  La soule [ Tue Apr 10, 2018 11:35 am ]
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Yeah, accuracy on anything is clearly not your cup of tea.

As proven on this thread time and time again.

I still consider you to be my expert on all things Essex though :thumbup:

Author:  camroc1 [ Tue Apr 10, 2018 11:35 am ]
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Bullettyme wrote:
Just read Davis's comments. First I thought the man was a complete idiot, but then I remembered somebody else had made similar comments a couple of months ago (IBS I think). Might just be an easy way of playing to the cheap seats at best, or at worst an ugly attempt to scapegoat.

Negotiations mustn't be going too well for poor old Davis and his team.

Still there is such an amount of willful ignorance in his speech as reported that it must be nearly time for the British Ambassador to have coffee in Iveagh House with Coveney and be given the Great Big Book of Irish Politics as a gift for Davis (and BoJo, and IDS) to read.

Author:  bimboman [ Tue Apr 10, 2018 11:39 am ]
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La soule wrote:
Yeah, accuracy on anything is clearly not your cup of tea.

As proven on this thread time and time again.

I still consider you to be my expert on all things Essex though :thumbup:



Yeah, I was right again you're as good in Essex as you are Switzerland, you're not even right about the French Cantons joining. Because you're slow.

Author:  rfurlong [ Tue Apr 10, 2018 11:41 am ]
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camroc1 wrote:
Bullettyme wrote:
Just read Davis's comments. First I thought the man was a complete idiot, but then I remembered somebody else had made similar comments a couple of months ago (IBS I think). Might just be an easy way of playing to the cheap seats at best, or at worst an ugly attempt to scapegoat.

Negotiations mustn't be going too well for poor old Davis and his team.

Still there is such an amount of willful ignorance in his speech as reported that it must be nearly time for the British Ambassador to have coffee in Iveagh House with Coveney and be given the Great Big Book of Irish Politics as a gift for Davis (and BoJo, and IDS) to read.


Unreal level of ignorance from Davis. If he really thinks that Fine Gael are looking over their shoulder electorally at Sinn Fein, then the UK is really screwed in the brexit negotiations :shock:

What next? Will he blame the fisheries capitulation on the Newfoundland local elections?

Even worse is that corbynista prick Gardiner saying that the GFA is a shibboleth!

Jaysis, you would have to feel incredibly sorry for the 80%+ of UK citizens who wouldn't vote for militant labour or the delusional UKIP wing of the tories. Their future is being decided by loons on both sides of the political divide, while the centre seems to be utterly voiceless.

Author:  Mullet 2 [ Tue Apr 10, 2018 11:45 am ]
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rfurlong wrote:
camroc1 wrote:
Bullettyme wrote:
Just read Davis's comments. First I thought the man was a complete idiot, but then I remembered somebody else had made similar comments a couple of months ago (IBS I think). Might just be an easy way of playing to the cheap seats at best, or at worst an ugly attempt to scapegoat.

Negotiations mustn't be going too well for poor old Davis and his team.

Still there is such an amount of willful ignorance in his speech as reported that it must be nearly time for the British Ambassador to have coffee in Iveagh House with Coveney and be given the Great Big Book of Irish Politics as a gift for Davis (and BoJo, and IDS) to read.


Unreal level of ignorance from Davis. If he really thinks that Fine Gael are looking over their shoulder electorally at Sinn Fein, then the UK is really screwed in the brexit negotiations :shock:

What next? Will he blame the fisheries capitulation on the Newfoundland local elections?

Even worse is that corbynista prick Gardiner saying that the GFA is a shibboleth!

Jaysis, you would have to feel incredibly sorry for the 80%+ of UK citizens who wouldn't vote for militant labour or the delusional UKIP wing of the tories. Their future is being decided by loons on both sides of the political divide, while the centre seems to be utterly voiceless.



FPP not all it's cracked up to be

Author:  Nolanator [ Tue Apr 10, 2018 11:49 am ]
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DragsterDriver wrote:
Happy anniversary GFA.

At least it lived to see a third decade. :thumbup:

Author:  Nolanator [ Tue Apr 10, 2018 11:50 am ]
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Mullet 2 wrote:
FPP not all it's cracked up to be


PR STV would have given UKIP way more seats, though.


Democracy, not all it's cracked up to be.

Author:  DragsterDriver [ Tue Apr 10, 2018 11:51 am ]
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camroc1 wrote:
Bullettyme wrote:
Just read Davis's comments. First I thought the man was a complete idiot, but then I remembered somebody else had made similar comments a couple of months ago (IBS I think). Might just be an easy way of playing to the cheap seats at best, or at worst an ugly attempt to scapegoat.

Negotiations mustn't be going too well for poor old Davis and his team.

Still there is such an amount of willful ignorance in his speech as reported that it must be nearly time for the British Ambassador to have coffee in Iveagh House with Coveney and be given the Great Big Book of Irish Politics as a gift for Davis (and BoJo, and IDS) to read.


It’s possible that they know all about Ireland and it’s history- but like getting people frothing.

Author:  DragsterDriver [ Tue Apr 10, 2018 11:53 am ]
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Nolanator wrote:
DragsterDriver wrote:
Happy anniversary GFA.

At least it lived to see a third decade. :thumbup:


*just :P


I didn’t realise until I see a mate on Facebook drinking with Billy Clinton last night /Globby.

Author:  La soule [ Tue Apr 10, 2018 11:54 am ]
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bimboman wrote:
La soule wrote:
Yeah, accuracy on anything is clearly not your cup of tea.

As proven on this thread time and time again.

I still consider you to be my expert on all things Essex though :thumbup:



Yeah, I was right again you're as good in Essex as you are Switzerland, you're not even right about the French Cantons joining. Because you're slow.


Just go a read a little bit.

You dont need to make an arse of yourself on a daily basis here.

And by the way, calling the 1291 entity swiss confederation is wrong too so there you go. But then again, you have no shame whatsoever.

Author:  bimboman [ Tue Apr 10, 2018 11:57 am ]
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La soule wrote:
bimboman wrote:
La soule wrote:
Yeah, accuracy on anything is clearly not your cup of tea.

As proven on this thread time and time again.

I still consider you to be my expert on all things Essex though :thumbup:



Yeah, I was right again you're as good in Essex as you are Switzerland, you're not even right about the French Cantons joining. Because you're slow.


Just go a read a little bit.

You dont need to make an arse of yourself on a daily basis here.

And by the way, calling the 1291 entity swiss confederation is wrong too so there you go. But then again, you have no shame whatsoever.



:lol: , so wrong La Soule it's funny that you can't even get the French bits right.

Author:  ChipSpike [ Tue Apr 10, 2018 11:57 am ]
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Quote:
Does anyone understand what the government's current plans on Euratom are, how the timeline works, why they want to leave, etc.?


Given the prevailing winds are West to East I reckon the EU have every reason to want the British nuclear industry to remain as safe as it is now.

Author:  iarmhiman [ Tue Apr 10, 2018 11:58 am ]
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ChipSpike wrote:
Quote:
Does anyone understand what the government's current plans on Euratom are, how the timeline works, why they want to leave, etc.?


Given the prevailing winds are West to East I reckon the EU have every reason to want the British nuclear industry to remain as safe as it is now.


Toga???

Author:  Mullet 2 [ Tue Apr 10, 2018 11:58 am ]
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Funny that a noob to a rugby forum would want to launch into the Brexit thread.

Author:  camroc1 [ Tue Apr 10, 2018 12:01 pm ]
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DragsterDriver wrote:
camroc1 wrote:
Bullettyme wrote:
Just read Davis's comments. First I thought the man was a complete idiot, but then I remembered somebody else had made similar comments a couple of months ago (IBS I think). Might just be an easy way of playing to the cheap seats at best, or at worst an ugly attempt to scapegoat.

Negotiations mustn't be going too well for poor old Davis and his team.

Still there is such an amount of willful ignorance in his speech as reported that it must be nearly time for the British Ambassador to have coffee in Iveagh House with Coveney and be given the Great Big Book of Irish Politics as a gift for Davis (and BoJo, and IDS) to read.


It’s possible that they know all about Ireland and it’s history- but like getting people frothing.

It may well be possible, but in the case of Davis, BoJo, IDS, R-M etc., I really don't think probable. R-M was recently wittering on about how the Presidential election, due later on this year, was affecting the governments position on Brexit.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

It's just willful ignorance. And as Furlong alluded to will just play straight into the EU negotiators hands.

Author:  La soule [ Tue Apr 10, 2018 12:01 pm ]
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bimboman wrote:
La soule wrote:
bimboman wrote:
La soule wrote:
Yeah, accuracy on anything is clearly not your cup of tea.

As proven on this thread time and time again.

I still consider you to be my expert on all things Essex though :thumbup:



Yeah, I was right again you're as good in Essex as you are Switzerland, you're not even right about the French Cantons joining. Because you're slow.


Just go a read a little bit.

You dont need to make an arse of yourself on a daily basis here.

And by the way, calling the 1291 entity swiss confederation is wrong too so there you go. But then again, you have no shame whatsoever.



:lol: , so wrong La Soule it's funny that you can't even get the French bits right.


As I said, you appear quite incapable of experiencing any shame. Do keep on though. Cant wait for the next thing you are going to get wrong again.

Author:  camroc1 [ Tue Apr 10, 2018 12:02 pm ]
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Mullet 2 wrote:
Funny that a noob to a rugby forum would want to launch into the Brexit thread.

I thought Prium was Toga ?

Author:  La soule [ Tue Apr 10, 2018 12:03 pm ]
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camroc1 wrote:
Mullet 2 wrote:
Funny that a noob to a rugby forum would want to launch into the Brexit thread.

I thought Prium was Toga ?


Banned

Author:  camroc1 [ Tue Apr 10, 2018 12:03 pm ]
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La soule wrote:
camroc1 wrote:
Mullet 2 wrote:
Funny that a noob to a rugby forum would want to launch into the Brexit thread.

I thought Prium was Toga ?


Banned

Ah, missed that.

Author:  Bullettyme [ Tue Apr 10, 2018 12:12 pm ]
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DragsterDriver wrote:
camroc1 wrote:
Bullettyme wrote:
Just read Davis's comments. First I thought the man was a complete idiot, but then I remembered somebody else had made similar comments a couple of months ago (IBS I think). Might just be an easy way of playing to the cheap seats at best, or at worst an ugly attempt to scapegoat.

Negotiations mustn't be going too well for poor old Davis and his team.

Still there is such an amount of willful ignorance in his speech as reported that it must be nearly time for the British Ambassador to have coffee in Iveagh House with Coveney and be given the Great Big Book of Irish Politics as a gift for Davis (and BoJo, and IDS) to read.


It’s possible that they know all about Ireland and it’s history- but like getting people frothing.


If that's what you're looking for in your leadership, well good luck.

Author:  Nolanator [ Tue Apr 10, 2018 12:20 pm ]
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camroc1 wrote:
La soule wrote:
camroc1 wrote:
Mullet 2 wrote:
Funny that a noob to a rugby forum would want to launch into the Brexit thread.

I thought Prium was Toga ?


Banned

Ah, missed that.

Wasn't Toga's recent iteration called Chips? Chipspike isn't even trying. :thumbdown:

Author:  Santa [ Tue Apr 10, 2018 12:29 pm ]
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camroc1 wrote:
Petej wrote:
bimboman wrote:
One serious question ? How much of this activity is being transferred onto the Irish central bank balance sheet ?


Are they getting into the money laundering business as well?

It's just Bimbo trying to change the question. If, as the FT article states, the Irish office is a separate legal entity set up under Irish law, well then the CBOI will be the regulating banking authority of it, and of any branches it has whether in Paris or Frankfurt.

But Bimbo already knows this and is just playing silly buggers.


That's not true at worst or only partially true at best. But basically it's not true.

Author:  bimboman [ Tue Apr 10, 2018 12:35 pm ]
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Bullettyme wrote:
DragsterDriver wrote:
camroc1 wrote:
Bullettyme wrote:
Just read Davis's comments. First I thought the man was a complete idiot, but then I remembered somebody else had made similar comments a couple of months ago (IBS I think). Might just be an easy way of playing to the cheap seats at best, or at worst an ugly attempt to scapegoat.

Negotiations mustn't be going too well for poor old Davis and his team.

Still there is such an amount of willful ignorance in his speech as reported that it must be nearly time for the British Ambassador to have coffee in Iveagh House with Coveney and be given the Great Big Book of Irish Politics as a gift for Davis (and BoJo, and IDS) to read.


It’s possible that they know all about Ireland and it’s history- but like getting people frothing.


If that's what you're looking for in your leadership, well good luck.



There's certainly no point being conciliatory , it won't be taken in good faith , it would be used as an admission of guilt.

Author:  bimboman [ Tue Apr 10, 2018 12:37 pm ]
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Santa wrote:
camroc1 wrote:
Petej wrote:
bimboman wrote:
One serious question ? How much of this activity is being transferred onto the Irish central bank balance sheet ?


Are they getting into the money laundering business as well?

It's just Bimbo trying to change the question. If, as the FT article states, the Irish office is a separate legal entity set up under Irish law, well then the CBOI will be the regulating banking authority of it, and of any branches it has whether in Paris or Frankfurt.

But Bimbo already knows this and is just playing silly buggers.


That's not true at worst or only partially true at best. But basically it's not true.



No, if the Frankfurt and Paris entities are "branches" of Dublin then ultimate balance sheet risk would Ireland's as Clammy is indicating. Quite terrifying for the Irish central bankers I'd imagine given their politicians habit of unilaterally guaranteeing depositors.

Author:  fishfoodie [ Tue Apr 10, 2018 12:38 pm ]
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Bullettyme wrote:
DragsterDriver wrote:
camroc1 wrote:
Bullettyme wrote:
Just read Davis's comments. First I thought the man was a complete idiot, but then I remembered somebody else had made similar comments a couple of months ago (IBS I think). Might just be an easy way of playing to the cheap seats at best, or at worst an ugly attempt to scapegoat.

Negotiations mustn't be going too well for poor old Davis and his team.

Still there is such an amount of willful ignorance in his speech as reported that it must be nearly time for the British Ambassador to have coffee in Iveagh House with Coveney and be given the Great Big Book of Irish Politics as a gift for Davis (and BoJo, and IDS) to read.


It’s possible that they know all about Ireland and it’s history- but like getting people frothing.


If that's what you're looking for in your leadership, well good luck.


It's perfectly understandable; the Tories are just looking over their shoulders at Plaid Cymru, afraid they'll take all their seats :nod:

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