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YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE WITNESSES! :x


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Meh. I'd happily let both sides call whoever they want.


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If it is gonna be a circus might as well go big. Invite Trey Gowdy back and get some Benghazi/email stuff in there too


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Did anyone ever look into Trump possibly, and possibly accidentally, getting his hands on all that money looted from the Kazakh bank I cannot remember the name of? Though who hasn't helped launder billions of dollars whilst diverting money into a building that's no longer named after you because your name is too toxic?


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 6:40 pm 
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piquant wrote:
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My point was about the propriety of nepotism. Or nepotism by proxy in the case of Pudenda and Biden.



This is the party that has Nunes denying he's met Parnas and saying it'd be very unlikely he's be taking calls from 'random people', but then faced with reality stumbles as far as saying he now recalls he's spoken to him on the phone but doesn't know who he is, and it was a random call in nature (now a random call rather than person) though good enough he told Parnas 'great, just speak to my staff and set it up' whatever it is - presumably he doesn't know how Parnas got his phone number, though I assume it's easy to get the phone number for senior Congressional figures

And not only are the GOP not cross about this they barely think it worth a mention, and certainly not worth a follow up. They're just very weird


Nunes is telling the truth. Nunes takes random calls from people and I called him and he took mine.


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Sure you weren’t speaking to Nunes’ Cow?


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Sure you weren’t speaking to Nunes’ Cow?


No it was him, his wife wasn't there


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Sure you weren’t speaking to Nunes’ Cow?


No it was him, his wife wasn't there


What of his mother?


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 9:14 pm 
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6.Jones wrote:
Meh. I'd happily let both sides call whoever they want.

Exactly.


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piquant wrote:
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Sure you weren’t speaking to Nunes’ Cow?


No it was him, his wife wasn't there


What of his mother?


She was too busy having her pussey grabbed by Trump


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 11:01 pm 
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An interesting Reuters article on the Trump trade wars and specifically his primary mechanism, tariffs.

Charting the trade war Tariffs lead to global slowdown

Actually, no so much an artificial but a load of graphs that are simple enough even for me to grasp some of it.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 11:52 pm 
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So, it started with individuals who monitor media outlets outside the MSM, pointing out inconvenient facts. Now senior Senators going public on the real situation.

'' Senator Rand Paul (R., Ky.) said Thursday that Joe and Hunter #Biden 's activity in Ukraine “goes to the heart of the matter” surrounding the upcoming #Impeachment trial in the Senate, and argued that #GOP senators must be willing to call President Trump’s preferred witnesses, or “all hell is going to break lose.”

Appearing on Hannity, Paul stated that he believed the alleged corruption perpetrated by Hunter Biden in his role on the board of a #Ukrainian gas company Burisma — while his father was overseeing official U.S. relations with Kyiv —needed to be explored.

“If the president is being accused of withholding foreign aid, and his argument is, ‘Well, we were studying corruption, and we wanted to know about corruption in Ukraine,’ and I think the Bidens are as corrupt as the day is long,” Paul argued. “No young man who is the son of a politician gets $50,000 a month who has no experience, working for a Ukrainian oligarch. You know, for goodness sakes — it smells to high heaven. It smells like chttps://www.nationalreview.com/news/ra ... &utm_mediu ''

Now Senate Leader Lindsay Graham holes Schiffs cunning plan below the water line.
'' If we call witnesses, we're calling ALL the witnesses.''



That argument would hold more weight if Trump didn't employ his own unqualified children in official US government roles.


If they want witnesses let them have witnesses


Hope they go all the way. Call the Bidens, Trump and Bolton too. Should be some fun. And if Biden is exposed, even better for the sake of an healthier democracy.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 11:53 pm 
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If it is gonna be a circus might as well go big. Invite Trey Gowdy back and get some Benghazi/email stuff in there too


This.


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Is Trump essentially appointing lawyers he's seen on TV who're willing to take him as a client? This does look to be the way for the UK to get a good trade deal post Brexit, just get something daft on the telly and he'll lap it up


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Ted. wrote:
An interesting Reuters article on the Trump trade wars and specifically his primary mechanism, tariffs.

Charting the trade war Tariffs lead to global slowdown

Actually, no so much an artificial but a load of graphs that are simple enough even for me to grasp some of it.



Pffst, who cares about real outcomes when you can return things to the status quo and then claim all the pain was worth it and you've had a huge win.


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Is Trump essentially appointing lawyers he's seen on TV who're willing to take him as a client? This does look to be the way for the UK to get a good trade deal post Brexit, just get something daft on the telly and he'll lap it up


Step forward Ambassador Farage


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Fat Old Git wrote:
Ted. wrote:
An interesting Reuters article on the Trump trade wars and specifically his primary mechanism, tariffs.

Charting the trade war Tariffs lead to global slowdown

Actually, no so much an artificial but a load of graphs that are simple enough even for me to grasp some of it.



Pffst, who cares about real outcomes when you can return things to the status quo and then claim all the pain was worth it and you've had a huge win.

And put a huge * by that putting things back to the status quo. You can be sure 99.99% of Trump’s base has no idea what was lost when he ripped up the TPP. All the stuff the manufacturing sector should be caring about like fair labor laws in the partner countries etc. This vs the half-arsed deal he made with Japan.


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Flockwitt wrote:
Fat Old Git wrote:
Ted. wrote:
An interesting Reuters article on the Trump trade wars and specifically his primary mechanism, tariffs.

Charting the trade war Tariffs lead to global slowdown

Actually, no so much an artificial but a load of graphs that are simple enough even for me to grasp some of it.



Pffst, who cares about real outcomes when you can return things to the status quo and then claim all the pain was worth it and you've had a huge win.

And put a huge * by that putting things back to the status quo. You can be sure 99.99% of Trump’s base has no idea what was lost when he ripped up the TPP. All the stuff the manufacturing sector should be caring about like fair labor laws in the partner countries etc. This vs the half-arsed deal he made with Japan.



Domestic status quo... perhaps. World markets are suffering due to Trump.


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piquant wrote:
6.Jones wrote:
Backwoodsman1 wrote:
So, it started with individuals who monitor media outlets outside the MSM, pointing out inconvenient facts. Now senior Senators going public on the real situation.

'' Senator Rand Paul (R., Ky.) said Thursday that Joe and Hunter #Biden 's activity in Ukraine “goes to the heart of the matter” surrounding the upcoming #Impeachment trial in the Senate, and argued that #GOP senators must be willing to call President Trump’s preferred witnesses, or “all hell is going to break lose.”

Appearing on Hannity, Paul stated that he believed the alleged corruption perpetrated by Hunter Biden in his role on the board of a #Ukrainian gas company Burisma — while his father was overseeing official U.S. relations with Kyiv —needed to be explored.

“If the president is being accused of withholding foreign aid, and his argument is, ‘Well, we were studying corruption, and we wanted to know about corruption in Ukraine,’ and I think the Bidens are as corrupt as the day is long,” Paul argued. “No young man who is the son of a politician gets $50,000 a month who has no experience, working for a Ukrainian oligarch. You know, for goodness sakes — it smells to high heaven. It smells like chttps://www.nationalreview.com/news/ra ... &utm_mediu ''

Now Senate Leader Lindsay Graham holes Schiffs cunning plan below the water line.
'' If we call witnesses, we're calling ALL the witnesses.''



That argument would hold more weight if Trump didn't employ his own unqualified children in official US government roles.


If they want witnesses let them have witnesses


Hope they go all the way. Call the Bidens, Trump and Bolton too. Should be some fun. And if Biden is exposed, even better for the sake of an healthier democracy.


Absolutely.


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guy smiley wrote:
Flockwitt wrote:
Fat Old Git wrote:
Ted. wrote:
An interesting Reuters article on the Trump trade wars and specifically his primary mechanism, tariffs.

Charting the trade war Tariffs lead to global slowdown

Actually, no so much an artificial but a load of graphs that are simple enough even for me to grasp some of it.



Pffst, who cares about real outcomes when you can return things to the status quo and then claim all the pain was worth it and you've had a huge win.

And put a huge * by that putting things back to the status quo. You can be sure 99.99% of Trump’s base has no idea what was lost when he ripped up the TPP. All the stuff the manufacturing sector should be caring about like fair labor laws in the partner countries etc. This vs the half-arsed deal he made with Japan.



Domestic status quo... perhaps. World markets are suffering due to Trump.


And eventually it should become apparent to Americans that thy are too.


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guy smiley wrote:
Flockwitt wrote:
Fat Old Git wrote:
Ted. wrote:
An interesting Reuters article on the Trump trade wars and specifically his primary mechanism, tariffs.

Charting the trade war Tariffs lead to global slowdown

Actually, no so much an artificial but a load of graphs that are simple enough even for me to grasp some of it.



Pffst, who cares about real outcomes when you can return things to the status quo and then claim all the pain was worth it and you've had a huge win.

And put a huge * by that putting things back to the status quo. You can be sure 99.99% of Trump’s base has no idea what was lost when he ripped up the TPP. All the stuff the manufacturing sector should be caring about like fair labor laws in the partner countries etc. This vs the half-arsed deal he made with Japan.



Domestic status quo... perhaps. World markets are suffering due to Trump.


Really? Not because of anything else but Trump? :?


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Really? Not because of anything else but Trump? :?


Perhaps it's unfair to blame Trump and his economic policy. Perhaps it's simply a coincidence that the loss of confidence showing in the markets mirrors his presidency.


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Is Trump essentially appointing lawyers he's seen on TV who're willing to take him as a client? This does look to be the way for the UK to get a good trade deal post Brexit, just get something daft on the telly and he'll lap it up


Step forward Ambassador Farage

That would go a bit Scaramouche in no time


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Ted. wrote:
guy smiley wrote:
Flockwitt wrote:
Fat Old Git wrote:
Ted. wrote:
An interesting Reuters article on the Trump trade wars and specifically his primary mechanism, tariffs.

Charting the trade war Tariffs lead to global slowdown

Actually, no so much an artificial but a load of graphs that are simple enough even for me to grasp some of it.



Pffst, who cares about real outcomes when you can return things to the status quo and then claim all the pain was worth it and you've had a huge win.

And put a huge * by that putting things back to the status quo. You can be sure 99.99% of Trump’s base has no idea what was lost when he ripped up the TPP. All the stuff the manufacturing sector should be caring about like fair labor laws in the partner countries etc. This vs the half-arsed deal he made with Japan.



Domestic status quo... perhaps. World markets are suffering due to Trump.


And eventually it should become apparent to Americans that thy are too.

Before his third term?


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guy smiley wrote:
kiwinoz wrote:

Really? Not because of anything else but Trump? :?


Perhaps it's unfair to blame Trump and his economic policy. Perhaps it's simply a coincidence that the loss of confidence showing in the markets mirrors his presidency.


Yahoo on his inauguration 20/1/17

Quote:
The Dow Jones Industrial Average (DJI) declined 0.4%, to close at 19,732.40. The S&P 500 also decreased 0.4% to close at 2,263.69. The tech-laden Nasdaq Composite Index closed at 5,540.08, losing 0.3%. The fear-gauge CBOE Volatility Index (VIX) increased 2.4% to settle at 12.78.


Now the DJI is 29348, S&P500 3329, Nasdaq 9388 and VIX 12.10

So where are you coming from?


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The Reuter’s article linked to on this page.


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Hope they go all the way. Call the Bidens, Trump and Bolton too. Should be some fun. And if Biden is exposed, even better for the sake of an healthier democracy.

Correct. I don't think [Joe] Biden's corrupt. I'm sure [Hunter] is but there's no evidence of it rising to the level of illegality. Law enforcement would've found something by now if it did. I'm sure William Barr is polishing his crucifix over effigies of the Bidens as we speak, getting Jebus on the case, leaving no altar boy unturned. But if they are then the Mercans need to know.


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Just heard Donald Trump compared to Nelson Mandela on CNN.


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In what context?


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In what context?


Presumably because some people want him to run the country and another group of people want him in prison.


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That import export curve is very interesting. The UK one cannot be true surely.


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Both had 3 wives, governed a country stricken by racism, and they succeeded a leader born in Africa?

Fingers crossed on the jail time...


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In what context?


It was in the context of an eagerly anticipated speech.

Trump seemed to be sticking largely to his script, which is disappointing. I was hoping he would go off the rails and provide a little entertainment, but apart from the continual boasting about himself and the statement that America was on the skids when he took over, he doesn't seem to be too outrageous.


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Trump's defence team have put out the document detailing their defence, such as it is, of the President. Stating when the President says do us a favour it has nothing to do with the President's personal interests, which is either just utter nonsense or it's the Nixon/Judge Dredd defence that the President is the state and thus the law and thus can't do anything wrong.


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I don't think [Joe] Biden's corrupt. I'm sure [Hunter] is but there's no evidence of it rising to the level of illegality.


"Legal corruption". Interesting concept..

Although if I think about it for a sec, it's fine....as long as you're rich. :(


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I don't think [Joe] Biden's corrupt. I'm sure [Hunter] is but there's no evidence of it rising to the level of illegality.


"Legal corruption". Interesting concept..

Although if I think about it for a sec, it's fine....as long as you're rich. :(

Corruption and illegality overlap sometimes. One of the great skills of corrupt officials is to siphon money to themselves in ways that don't break the law. Hunter Biden taking a position on the Pudenda board is corrupt. It's not illegal.


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succeeded a leader born in Africa?

:lol:


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Thank god he's there to put everyone right about climate change.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-51189430


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Both had 3 wives, governed a country stricken by racism, and they succeeded a leader born in Africa?

Fingers crossed on the jail time...


:lol:


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nb1C98SYKk4

Dershowitz :lol:


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