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Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-Already making America Great Again!

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 2:06 am
by SecretAgentMan
_fatprop wrote:
SecretAgentMan wrote:
_fatprop wrote: :lol: "empty remark" ah bless :lol: , his appointees are doing plenty of quality regulation cutting, ISIS is near done, a Supreme Court Judge his base likes got put in, individual mandate gone and the American embassy is off the Jerusalem - all strong conservative stuff and start working out workable compromises, get DACA done, even if a wall gets built etc etc
You're crediting Private Bonespurs for the demise of ISIS now?? :lol:
He was smart enough to get out of the way, stop insisting on regime change and let Russia and Syria sort in out
:lol:

If only he'd extend that approach to every other aspect of his presidency.

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-Already making America Great Again!

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 2:10 am
by _fatprop
SecretAgentMan wrote:
_fatprop wrote:
SecretAgentMan wrote:
_fatprop wrote: :lol: "empty remark" ah bless :lol: , his appointees are doing plenty of quality regulation cutting, ISIS is near done, a Supreme Court Judge his base likes got put in, individual mandate gone and the American embassy is off the Jerusalem - all strong conservative stuff and start working out workable compromises, get DACA done, even if a wall gets built etc etc
You're crediting Private Bonespurs for the demise of ISIS now?? :lol:
He was smart enough to get out of the way, stop insisting on regime change and let Russia and Syria sort in out
:lol:

If only he'd extend that approach to every other aspect of his presidency.
I tend to agree, I am a big fan of governments doing less

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-Already making America Great Again!

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 2:20 am
by houtkabouter
So you’re a big fan of governments not governing?

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-Already making America Great Again!

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 2:40 am
by Deadtigers
houtkabouter wrote:So you’re a big fan of governments not governing?
it is a big part of conservative logic, argue government doesn't work, get into power drive the country off a cliff then say see government doesn't work as the left tries to fix it.

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-Already making America Great Again!

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 3:13 am
by _fatprop
houtkabouter wrote:So you’re a big fan of governments not governing?
Ahh the eternal question, I get to say it depends.

I see little correlation between more regulation and a better life

We can all say but whatabout "x, y & z" but too many deals are done for special interests and too much bracket creep by departments

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-Already making America Great Again!

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 3:21 am
by Kiwias
_fatprop wrote:
houtkabouter wrote:So you’re a big fan of governments not governing?
Ahh the eternal question, I get to say it depends.

I see little correlation between more regulation and a better life

We can all say but whatabout "x, y & z" but too many deals are done for special interests and too much bracket creep by departments
Regulations over worker safety and environmental protection, to name two areas, have a direct correlation to a better quality of life.

The sort of regulations you are praising Trump for getting rid of.

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-Already making America Great Again!

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 4:11 am
by Deadtigers
Kiwias wrote:
_fatprop wrote:
houtkabouter wrote:So you’re a big fan of governments not governing?
Ahh the eternal question, I get to say it depends.

I see little correlation between more regulation and a better life

We can all say but whatabout "x, y & z" but too many deals are done for special interests and too much bracket creep by departments
Regulations over worker safety and environmental protection, to name two areas, have a direct correlation to a better quality of life.

The sort of regulations you are praising Trump for getting rid of.
I would roll up unions in that. The union busting conservative elites that are the Koch Bros have worked to destroy unions meanwhile these are the same unions offering my friend (wife's best friend's hubby) a chance to make 70K without a college degree that they all want.

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-Already making America Great Again!

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 4:25 am
by Kiwias
Archie Bunker the prescient -- he was way ahead of Trump and his call to arm teachers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lDb0Dn8OXE

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-Already making America Great Again!

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 4:40 am
by Turbogoat
_fatprop wrote:
SecretAgentMan wrote:
_fatprop wrote: :lol: "empty remark" ah bless :lol: , his appointees are doing plenty of quality regulation cutting, ISIS is near done, a Supreme Court Judge his base likes got put in, individual mandate gone and the American embassy is off the Jerusalem - all strong conservative stuff and start working out workable compromises, get DACA done, even if a wall gets built etc etc
You're crediting Private Bonespurs for the demise of ISIS now?? :lol:
He was smart enough to get out of the way, stop insisting on regime change and let Russia and Syria sort in out
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-Already making America Great Again!

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 4:47 am
by Turbogoat
_fatprop wrote:
SecretAgentMan wrote:
_fatprop wrote:
SecretAgentMan wrote:
_fatprop wrote: :lol: "empty remark" ah bless :lol: , his appointees are doing plenty of quality regulation cutting, ISIS is near done, a Supreme Court Judge his base likes got put in, individual mandate gone and the American embassy is off the Jerusalem - all strong conservative stuff and start working out workable compromises, get DACA done, even if a wall gets built etc etc
You're crediting Private Bonespurs for the demise of ISIS now?? :lol:
He was smart enough to get out of the way, stop insisting on regime change and let Russia and Syria sort in out
:lol:

If only he'd extend that approach to every other aspect of his presidency.
I tend to agree, I am a big fan of governments doing less
Going to the extreme of giving every job they want done to Jared Kushner is a bit excessive though.
Now that he's had his Security clearance downgraded it's going to be even harder to:

Bring peace to the Middle East
Solve the opioid crisis
Reform criminal justice
Liaise with Mexico
Liaise with the Muslims
etc...

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-Already making America Great Again!

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 6:10 am
by Rinkals
Turbogoat wrote:
_fatprop wrote:
SecretAgentMan wrote:
_fatprop wrote: :lol: "empty remark" ah bless :lol: , his appointees are doing plenty of quality regulation cutting, ISIS is near done, a Supreme Court Judge his base likes got put in, individual mandate gone and the American embassy is off the Jerusalem - all strong conservative stuff and start working out workable compromises, get DACA done, even if a wall gets built etc etc
You're crediting Private Bonespurs for the demise of ISIS now?? :lol:
He was smart enough to get out of the way, stop insisting on regime change and let Russia and Syria sort in out
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
I'm afraid that anyone who claims not to be a Trump supporter and then praises him for being "smart" instantly loses credibility.

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-Already making America Great Again!

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 6:31 am
by Santa
Rinkals wrote:
Turbogoat wrote:
_fatprop wrote:
SecretAgentMan wrote:
_fatprop wrote: :lol: "empty remark" ah bless :lol: , his appointees are doing plenty of quality regulation cutting, ISIS is near done, a Supreme Court Judge his base likes got put in, individual mandate gone and the American embassy is off the Jerusalem - all strong conservative stuff and start working out workable compromises, get DACA done, even if a wall gets built etc etc
You're crediting Private Bonespurs for the demise of ISIS now?? :lol:
He was smart enough to get out of the way, stop insisting on regime change and let Russia and Syria sort in out
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
I'm afraid that anyone who claims not to be a Trump supporter and then praises him for being "smart" instantly loses credibility.
RInkals do you reckon you could pass a Turing test?

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-Already making America Great Again!

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 6:50 am
by Bindi
_fatprop wrote:
houtkabouter wrote:So you’re a big fan of governments not governing?
Ahh the eternal question, I get to say it depends.

I see little correlation between more regulation and a better life

We can all say but whatabout "x, y & z" but too many deals are done for special interests and too much bracket creep by departments
Fatprop is one of the main proponents of licensing bicyclists on this bored, adding a massive regulatory burden where none exists.

Like most right wingers, what he actually means is less regulation for things he supports, and more for things he doesn’t

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-Already making America Great Again!

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 6:54 am
by Rinkals
Santa wrote:
Rinkals wrote:
Turbogoat wrote:
_fatprop wrote:
SecretAgentMan wrote: You're crediting Private Bonespurs for the demise of ISIS now?? :lol:
He was smart enough to get out of the way, stop insisting on regime change and let Russia and Syria sort in out
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
I'm afraid that anyone who claims not to be a Trump supporter and then praises him for being "smart" instantly loses credibility.
RInkals do you reckon you could pass a Turing test?
Oddly enough, that is exactly the sort of response a programmer might use to pass a Turing test; something totally irrelevant to the current exchange (necessary because the computer is unlikely to be able to follow the exchange accurately) but sufficiently pertinent, in a very broad way, to give the impression that the exchange is being conducted by an human.

Which raises the question: can you?

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-Already making America Great Again!

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 7:40 am
by Santa
Rinkals wrote: Oddly enough, that is exactly the sort of response a programmer might use to pass a Turing test; something totally irrelevant to the current exchange (necessary because the computer is unlikely to be able to follow the exchange accurately) but sufficiently pertinent, in a very broad way, to give the impression that the exchange is being conducted by an human.

Which raises the question: can you?
You could have just said no.

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-Already making America Great Again!

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 7:54 am
by Rinkals
Santa wrote:
Rinkals wrote: Oddly enough, that is exactly the sort of response a programmer might use to pass a Turing test; something totally irrelevant to the current exchange (necessary because the computer is unlikely to be able to follow the exchange accurately) but sufficiently pertinent, in a very broad way, to give the impression that the exchange is being conducted by an human.

Which raises the question: can you?
You could have just said no.
I could have, but I didn't.

Are you following this exchange in a cognitive way, or are you just throwing out random messages which could probably fit reasonably well into virtually any conversation?

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-Already making America Great Again!

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 7:59 am
by wamberal99
Bindi wrote: Fatprop is one of the main proponents of licensing bicyclists on this bored, adding a massive regulatory burden where none exists.

Like most right wingers, what he actually means is less regulation for things he supports, and more for things he doesn’t

A winger???? I thought he was a front rower????

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-Already making America Great Again!

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 8:01 am
by Anonymous 1
_fatprop wrote: What should the left do? Stop complaining about everything and start working out workable compromises, get DACA done, even if a wall gets built etc etc
Trump supporters till talking about the possibility of a wall getting built :lol:

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-Already making America Great Again!

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 8:09 am
by Santa
Rinkals wrote:
Santa wrote:
Rinkals wrote: Oddly enough, that is exactly the sort of response a programmer might use to pass a Turing test; something totally irrelevant to the current exchange (necessary because the computer is unlikely to be able to follow the exchange accurately) but sufficiently pertinent, in a very broad way, to give the impression that the exchange is being conducted by an human.

Which raises the question: can you?
You could have just said no.
I could have, but I didn't.

Are you following this exchange in a cognitive way, or are you just throwing out random messages which could probably fit reasonably well into virtually any conversation?
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Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-Already making America Great Again!

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 8:18 am
by Laurent
Santa a sucé un clown ce matin

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-Already making America Great Again!

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 8:24 am
by Chuckles1188
_fatprop wrote:
Floppykid wrote:
_fatprop wrote:
Mr Mike wrote:Trump finally gets a friendly judge.
US District Judge Gonzalo Curiel has cleared one potential obstacle to President Donald Trump's long-promised border wall, ruling Tuesday that the administration has the authority to waive a host of environmental laws and other regulations to begin construction.
He is putting a lot in place.

While everyone wrings their hands over his last bizarre comment, the Republican apparatus keeps rolling forward cutting red tape and installing judges
The GOP control every branch of government, what's "everyone"meant to be doing exactly?
Providing true resistance by liking the latest anti-trump meme in their facebook feed :thumbup:
Worked for Republicans with Obama

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-Already making America Great Again!

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 8:44 am
by Rinkals
Santa wrote:
Rinkals wrote:
Santa wrote:
Rinkals wrote: Oddly enough, that is exactly the sort of response a programmer might use to pass a Turing test; something totally irrelevant to the current exchange (necessary because the computer is unlikely to be able to follow the exchange accurately) but sufficiently pertinent, in a very broad way, to give the impression that the exchange is being conducted by an human.

Which raises the question: can you?
You could have just said no.
I could have, but I didn't.

Are you following this exchange in a cognitive way, or are you just throwing out random messages which could probably fit reasonably well into virtually any conversation?
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FOck off piss face?

Well, yes.

We get the joke; you don't need to be that obvious.

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-Already making America Great Again!

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 8:46 am
by Rinkals
^^
I suppose this little exchange is relevant to this thread in terms of alleged interference in the US Elections by Russian bots.

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-Already making America Great Again!

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 8:46 am
by Wilson's Toffee
Applicable to all.
we have no government, armed with power, capable of contending with human passions, unbridled by morality and religion. Avarice, ambition, revenge and licentiousness would break the strongest cords of our Constitution, as a whale goes through a net. Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-Already making America Great Again!

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 9:01 am
by Jay Cee Gee
Wilson's Toffee wrote:Applicable to all.
we have no government, armed with power, capable of contending with human passions, unbridled by morality and religion. Avarice, ambition, revenge and licentiousness would break the strongest cords of our Constitution, as a whale goes through a net. Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.
"I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should 'make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,' thus building a wall of separation between Church & State."

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-Already making America Great Again!

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 9:11 am
by Wilson's Toffee
Jay Cee Gee wrote:
Wilson's Toffee wrote:Applicable to all.
we have no government, armed with power, capable of contending with human passions, unbridled by morality and religion. Avarice, ambition, revenge and licentiousness would break the strongest cords of our Constitution, as a whale goes through a net. Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.
"I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should 'make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,' thus building a wall of separation between Church & State."

It is not the religion basis that worries me - that is mostly interdenominational, even atheists have morals. It is the bolded part :
"Avarice, ambition, revenge and licentiousness would break the strongest cords of our Constitution, as a whale goes through a net"
If a founding father have that opinion of their pet project, it spells doom for their Republic, what with people being people...

Maybe the USA needs a wholly new Constitution.

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-Already making America Great Again!

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 9:44 am
by Jay Cee Gee
Wilson's Toffee wrote: It is not the religion basis that worries me - that is mostly interdenominational, even atheists have morals. It is the bolded part :
"Avarice, ambition, revenge and licentiousness would break the strongest cords of our Constitution, as a whale goes through a net"
.
That's hilarious, cause while there's been many presidents with many deep deep flaws, no previous president has so perfectly encapsulated all four of those listed flaws so perfectly as Trump.

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-Already making America Great Again!

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 9:54 am
by BokJock
Deadtigers wrote:
Thomas wrote:
paddyor wrote:
Floppykid wrote:And Kush is out. :lol:
WITCH HUNT!

This is good

Image
:lol:

Jones is getting destroyed by a teenager.
He has been sued by the parents of Sandy Hook victims but was tossed out under free speech I believe. Nice dodge. I love that his account is frozen. Hogg is gonna be a future Senator. The kid told spring breakers to boycott Florida because of the gun lobby. Then he came back and said instead spend your spring break in PR, they could use the tourism. Stone Douglass may end up being this generations Kent State.
What does free speech have to do with anything, Youtube are a company and can therefore decide what content it allows to be shown.

Alex Jones is still free to say and publish whatever he likes, as far as I know he is not at risk of being arrested by the government for what he has said...

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-Already making America Great Again!

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 9:55 am
by BokJock
Jay Cee Gee wrote:
Wilson's Toffee wrote: It is not the religion basis that worries me - that is mostly interdenominational, even atheists have morals. It is the bolded part :
"Avarice, ambition, revenge and licentiousness would break the strongest cords of our Constitution, as a whale goes through a net"
.
That's hilarious, cause while there's been many presidents with many deep deep flaws, no previous president has so perfectly encapsulated all four of those listed flaws so perfectly as Trump.
Plus the whale part

(*fake news - he weighs 235lbs :nod: )

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-Already making America Great Again!

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 9:59 am
by Kiwias
Deadtigers wrote:
_fatprop wrote:
Deadtigers wrote:
_fatprop wrote:
Floppykid wrote: They'll just have to bide their time till November and keep trusting Mueller flips more nothing burgers in the mean time.
They will want Mueller to carry on for another three or four years, Mueller being too successful just brings in the Pence
so answer the question. What is the left suppose to do when the right control all levers of power?

just admit that was an empty remark to attempt to give him credit for something that for is the work of Mitch and Paulie.
:lol: "empty remark" ah bless :lol: , his appointees are doing plenty of quality regulation cutting, ISIS is near done, a Supreme Court Judge his base likes got put in, individual mandate gone and the American embassy is off the Jerusalem - all strong conservative stuff

What should the left do? Stop complaining about everything and start working out workable compromises, get DACA done, even if a wall gets built etc etc
Like winning special elections in red stats and districts? Done. Taking his attempt to end DACA to court? Done and winning based on SCOTUS ruling. You must not read much stuff that gives you proper updates because you would know more about the immigration bill but then again you are willfully ignorant, so whatever. There is more than just noise but it easier.

And all the achievements you gave could not be stopped by the left and are the result of micth and Paul but give him credit if you like that's fine.
You did not mention the high school kids at the vanguard of a genuine movement to exert pressure on politicians to enact meaningful reforms to America’s gun controls.

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-Already making America Great Again!

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 10:00 am
by The Man Without Fear
_fatprop wrote:
Mr Mike wrote:Trump finally gets a friendly judge.
US District Judge Gonzalo Curiel has cleared one potential obstacle to President Donald Trump's long-promised border wall, ruling Tuesday that the administration has the authority to waive a host of environmental laws and other regulations to begin construction.
He is putting a lot in place.

While everyone wrings their hands over his last bizarre comment, the Republican apparatus keeps rolling forward cutting red tape and installing judges
This. Once the dust settles on Trump's reign of idiocy, the heinous shit behind the scenes being carried out will start impacting on people's lives ls, although the perpetrators will be a bit richer than before so they won't give a shit.

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-Already making America Great Again!

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 10:03 am
by penguin
BokJock wrote:
Jay Cee Gee wrote:
Wilson's Toffee wrote: It is not the religion basis that worries me - that is mostly interdenominational, even atheists have morals. It is the bolded part :
"Avarice, ambition, revenge and licentiousness would break the strongest cords of our Constitution, as a whale goes through a net"
.
That's hilarious, cause while there's been many presidents with many deep deep flaws, no previous president has so perfectly encapsulated all four of those listed flaws so perfectly as Trump.
Plus the whale part

(*fake news - he weighs 235lbs :nod: )
I thought the same, then remembered Taft - Trump is not even the fattest president. Sad.

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-Already making America Great Again!

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 10:05 am
by Kiwias
The Man Without Fear wrote:
_fatprop wrote:
Mr Mike wrote:Trump finally gets a friendly judge.
US District Judge Gonzalo Curiel has cleared one potential obstacle to President Donald Trump's long-promised border wall, ruling Tuesday that the administration has the authority to waive a host of environmental laws and other regulations to begin construction.
He is putting a lot in place.

While everyone wrings their hands over his last bizarre comment, the Republican apparatus keeps rolling forward cutting red tape and installing judges
This. Once the dust settles on Trump's reign of idiocy, the heinous shit behind the scenes being carried out will start impacting on people's lives ls, although the perpetrators will be a bit richer than before so they won't give a shit.
And the GOP will continue to pretend it is working for the common man because it offered a small and limited tax cut (forgetting the massive bonus they gave their rich friends) and ignoring the damage it has done to various aspects of America’s society.

The worry is that the Democrats learn sfa from the debacle of 2016 and carry on regardless.

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-Already making America Great Again!

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 10:08 am
by Wilson's Toffee
Jay Cee Gee wrote:
Wilson's Toffee wrote: It is not the religion basis that worries me - that is mostly interdenominational, even atheists have morals. It is the bolded part :
"Avarice, ambition, revenge and licentiousness would break the strongest cords of our Constitution, as a whale goes through a net"
.
That's hilarious, cause while there's been many presidents with many deep deep flaws, no previous president has so perfectly encapsulated all four of those listed flaws so perfectly as Trump.

Yet he seems so much more moral than many USA top politicians in some ways.
Maybe because he is not really a politician, but an actor and a salesman.

EDIT: And probably a crook.

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-Already making America Great Again!

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 2:17 pm
by Petej
Wilson's Toffee wrote:
Jay Cee Gee wrote:
Wilson's Toffee wrote:Applicable to all.
we have no government, armed with power, capable of contending with human passions, unbridled by morality and religion. Avarice, ambition, revenge and licentiousness would break the strongest cords of our Constitution, as a whale goes through a net. Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.
"I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should 'make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,' thus building a wall of separation between Church & State."

It is not the religion basis that worries me - that is mostly interdenominational, even atheists have morals. It is the bolded part :
"Avarice, ambition, revenge and licentiousness would break the strongest cords of our Constitution, as a whale goes through a net"
If a founding father have that opinion of their pet project, it spells doom for their Republic, what with people being people...

Maybe the USA needs a wholly new Constitution.
The religious people have more morals is a complete crock of shit frequently used by immoral arseholes to pretend to be morally superior as they are religious. Organised religion really has no claim to moral authority these days and should be treated like any other political organisation.

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-Already making America Great Again!

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 3:16 pm
by Wilson's Toffee
Petej wrote:
Wilson's Toffee wrote:
Jay Cee Gee wrote:
Wilson's Toffee wrote:Applicable to all.
we have no government, armed with power, capable of contending with human passions, unbridled by morality and religion. Avarice, ambition, revenge and licentiousness would break the strongest cords of our Constitution, as a whale goes through a net. Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.
"I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should 'make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,' thus building a wall of separation between Church & State."

It is not the religion basis that worries me - that is mostly interdenominational, even atheists have morals. It is the bolded part :
"Avarice, ambition, revenge and licentiousness would break the strongest cords of our Constitution, as a whale goes through a net"
If a founding father have that opinion of their pet project, it spells doom for their Republic, what with people being people...

Maybe the USA needs a wholly new Constitution.
The religious people have more morals is a complete crock of shit frequently used by immoral arseholes to pretend to be morally superior as they are religious. Organised religion really has no claim to moral authority these days and should be treated like any other political organisation.
I agree with you. That is not my point. Adams lived in a different time.

I am phased by the accurate description of what will sink the Republic's ship, what will destroy the Constitution.

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-Already making America Great Again!

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 3:25 pm
by ticketlessinseattle
Deadtigers wrote:
houtkabouter wrote:So you’re a big fan of governments not governing?
it is a big part of conservative logic, argue government doesn't work, get into power drive the country off a cliff then say see government doesn't work as the left tries to fix it.
and run up a youdge budget deficit in the good times

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-Already making America Great Again!

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 3:29 pm
by ticketlessinseattle
Kiwias wrote:Archie Bunker the prescient -- he was way ahead of Trump and his call to arm teachers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lDb0Dn8OXE
:lol: fcuk Archie Bunker to take over from McMaster i guess.

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-Already making America Great Again!

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 3:38 pm
by Deadtigers
flaggETERNAL wrote:
Seneca of the Night wrote:Image

:thumbup:
4th Trump supporter to post this online. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
2nd column, 2nd paragraph states that he showed up after the mugger had left.

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-Already making America Great Again!

Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 4:08 pm
by paddyor
Donald J. Trump Verified account @realDonaldTrump 32m32 minutes ago

Why is A.G. Jeff Sessions asking the Inspector General to investigate potentially massive FISA abuse. Will take forever, has no prosecutorial power and already late with reports on Comey etc. Isn’t the I.G. an Obama guy? Why not use Justice Department lawyers? DISGRACEFUL!
Fucked off about Jared.