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Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-Already making America Great Again!

Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2018 3:41 pm
by BokJock
saffer13 wrote:Almost as funny as the Dems now suddenly being in love with McCain...I guess the enemy of my enemy and all that :lol:
McCain already had some cred with Dems for shutting down that insane Obama is a muslim lady at the town hall.

He should never be forgiven for making Sarah Palin a thing though....oh and of course all the war mongering stuff.

bomb bomb bomb
bomb bomb Iran...

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-Already making America Great Again!

Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2018 3:47 pm
by Turbogoat
saffer13 wrote:Almost as funny as the Dems now suddenly being in love with McCain...I guess the enemy of my enemy and all that :lol:

There certainly has been a lot of tightrope walking being done, mentioning of his flawed character/politics every time his service has been mentioned.
The thumbs down on the Healthcare vote and a few other points - bipartisan bills, friendships across the aisle etc... meant he was already seen more favourably than many.

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-Already making America Great Again!

Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2018 9:16 pm
by Smee
fishooks15 wrote:Have to say, Trump managing to shit all over John McCain was one of the few decent things he's done since he came on the scene.
McCain experienced first hand the horrors of war and could have spent the rest of his life as an advocate for soft power, diplomacy and peace. In international relations violence is ultimately counter productive - it multiplies your enemies and if you are trying to present yourself as a civilized nation robs you of your credibility and your moral superiority.

McCain was ultimately a knuckle dragger who never grasped the futility and self defeating nature of a hawkish foreign policy. An absurdity when you consider that his name will forever be associated with the failure of Vietnam.

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-Already making America Great Again!

Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2018 9:21 pm
by Fat Old Git
Seneca of the Night wrote:
U.S. second-quarter GDP growth raised to 4.2 percent

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. economic growth was a bit stronger than initially thought in the second quarter, notching its best performance in nearly four years and putting the economy on track to hit the Trump administration’s goal of 3 percent annual growth.
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https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa- ... SKCN1LE1GB
So the economy performing not quite as well as it was towards the end of the Obama era then?

;)

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-Already making America Great Again!

Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2018 10:04 pm
by Anonymous 1
Wilson's Toffee wrote:"disgraceful" - long time since I've seen that word.
like your dick

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-Already making America Great Again!

Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2018 10:08 pm
by Anonymous 1
Smee wrote:
fishooks15 wrote:Have to say, Trump managing to shit all over John McCain was one of the few decent things he's done since he came on the scene.
McCain experienced first hand the horrors of war and could have spent the rest of his life as an advocate for soft power, diplomacy and peace. In international relations violence is ultimately counter productive - it multiplies your enemies and if you are trying to present yourself as a civilized nation robs you of your credibility and your moral superiority.

McCain was ultimately a knuckle dragger who never grasped the futility and self defeating nature of a hawkish foreign policy. An absurdity when you consider that his name will forever be associated with the failure of Vietnam.
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Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-Already making America Great Again!

Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2018 11:09 pm
by happyhooker
Seneca of the Night wrote:https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1034570585035235328

R E I N C A R N A T I O N

:shock:
That explains the Korean war veterans' parents he met while campaigning

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-Already making America Great Again!

Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2018 11:10 pm
by happyhooker
Seneca of the Night wrote:Just thinking about this, it is possible that Trump is the reincarnation of the USS Arizona. Crazier things have happened, and it would explain a lot.
You ok?

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-Already making America Great Again!

Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2018 11:37 pm
by Santa
Seneca of the Night wrote:https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1034570585035235328

R E I N C A R N A T I O N

:shock:
Christ the anti-Trumpists are pathetic. Apparently you can't remember something unless you were there.

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-Already making America Great Again!

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2018 12:07 am
by happyhooker
Santa wrote:
Seneca of the Night wrote:https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1034570585035235328

R E I N C A R N A T I O N

:shock:
Christ the anti-Trumpists are pathetic. Apparently you can't remember something unless you were there.
That's bollocks. I can't remember the moon landing because I was still a foetus at the time. I know it happened, but I certainly can't remember it.

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-Already making America Great Again!

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2018 1:43 am
by paddyor
happyhooker wrote:
Santa wrote:
Seneca of the Night wrote:https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1034570585035235328

R E I N C A R N A T I O N

:shock:
Christ the anti-Trumpists are pathetic. Apparently you can't remember something unless you were there.
That's bollocks. I can't remember the moon landing because I was still a foetus at the time. I know it happened, but I certainly can't remember it.
This is the shadow talking to it's master FFS.

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-Already making America Great Again!

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2018 2:16 am
by Kiwias
New England Patriots owner and long-time Trump friend Robert Kraft apparently does not think Trump's presidency is going so well.

https://www.upi.com/Sports_News/NFL/201 ... 524683524/

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-Already making America Great Again!

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2018 2:22 am
by puku
Santa wrote:
Seneca of the Night wrote:https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1034570585035235328

R E I N C A R N A T I O N

:shock:
Christ the anti-Trumpists are pathetic. Apparently you can't remember something unless you were there.
Given that he often doesn't remember things even when he was there, I'm willing to give him a pass for at least remembering something when he wasn't.

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-Already making America Great Again!

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2018 5:56 am
by Kiwias
Don McGahan, WH counsel, has been advised by tweet that he is leaving. Even granted that he had indicated his intention to leave after seeing Kavanaugh confirmed on the SC, he was apparently surprised to learn by Drumpf tweet that he was definitely leaving.

Is there any senior person that Drumpf has had the guts to tell to his face that he was fired?

What a total f*cking pussy!

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-Already making America Great Again!

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2018 6:40 am
by Santa
We shall have to abandon Remembrance Day as none of us were involved in World War 1.

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-Already making America Great Again!

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2018 6:48 am
by Hong Kong
Santa wrote:We shall have to abandon Remembrance Day as none of us were involved in World War 1.
of fuck - you really are going down that lane, aren't you? :lol:

meanwhile - Hilary! Emails!

edit plus

no collusion! Nothing wrong! Look at hilary

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Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-Already making America Great Again!

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2018 7:13 am
by Santa
\The only person who ever says "but Hillary" on here is you. Nobody else gives a shit.

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-Already making America Great Again!

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2018 7:22 am
by Rinkals
Santa wrote:\The only person who ever says "but Hillary" on here is you. Nobody else gives a shit.
I think you missed the point.

Or are you suggesting that Trump hasn't been referring to Hillary?

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-Already making America Great Again!

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2018 7:23 am
by Big Nipper
Santa wrote:\The only person who ever says "but Hillary" on here is you. Nobody else gives a shit.
Ah yes, you usually refer to her as Killary

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-Already making America Great Again!

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2018 7:28 am
by Rinkals
Sefton wrote:Poor Santa, his obfuscation becomes more desperate by the day.
It's odd.

I have seen quite a few people say that he's an intelligent individual, but reading through this thread you wouldn't say so. Indeed, he appears to be a slightly less deranged version of WT and I doubt that there are many (apart from a few Saffer devotees) who would say that WT was terribly smart.

I suppose supporting Trump does that to one: Seneca is looking less sane by each post.

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-Already making America Great Again!

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2018 7:35 am
by RuggaBugga
Santa wrote:We shall have to abandon Remembrance Day as none of us were involved in World War 1.
Christ. You're such a f**king knob.

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-Already making America Great Again!

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2018 7:42 am
by Santa
Right. So we're agreed that you can remember things of which you were not a part.

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-Already making America Great Again!

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2018 7:56 am
by Laurent
Santa wrote:Right. So we're agreed that you can remember things of which you were not a part.
go visit the verdun area, you will remember a few things next time.



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Imbécile heureux.

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-Already making America Great Again!

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2018 8:16 am
by Hong Kong
you see, if people, even orange shitgibbons, want to make a point about the consequence or result of a particular event, especially one so historic and with such deep-seated meaning to all (and, in this case, probably the single most defining moment of their history), then surely, any normal individual would say "Remember the importance of [said event]". You know, to give it context and follow up with why the historical event was relevant to the current day conversation, rather than throwing it in as if he was actually present during said historical event.

And, as if you have not been ridiculed enough over your preposterous 'analogy' with Remembrance Day, you sad little plank, the whole purpose behind that day is to never forget the fallen and to make sure we don't go there again but you knew that, didn't you...

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-Already making America Great Again!

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2018 8:20 am
by BokJock
Santa wrote:Right. So we're agreed that you can remember things of which you were not a part.
what a strange thing to say

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-Already making America Great Again!

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2018 8:49 am
by Santa
Hong Kong wrote:you see, if people, even orange shitgibbons, want to make a point about the consequence or result of a particular event, especially one so historic and with such deep-seated meaning to all (and, in this case, probably the single most defining moment of their history), then surely, any normal individual would say "Remember the importance of [said event]". You know, to give it context and follow up with why the historical event was relevant to the current day conversation, rather than throwing it in as if he was actually present during said historical event.

And, as if you have not been ridiculed enough over your preposterous 'analogy' with Remembrance Day, you sad little plank, the whole purpose behind that day is to never forget the fallen and to make sure we don't go there again but you knew that, didn't you...
How can you forget those that you do not remember? Unless you remember them, even if you were not there.

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-Already making America Great Again!

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2018 9:31 am
by Plato'sCave
Santa wrote:
Seneca of the Night wrote:https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1034570585035235328

R E I N C A R N A T I O N

:shock:
Christ the anti-Trumpists are pathetic. Apparently you can't remember something unless you were there.

‘I remember Stonehenge being built’

Sounds wrong doesn’t it.

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-Already making America Great Again!

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2018 9:34 am
by Laurent
I am glad you don't give a shit on how it was Mr Gallagher got killed.

https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troph%C3% ... e_Gallaher

We'll take it back. (at least that will put an unwanted trophy in a fairly empty cabinet)

I am sure he was a prick anyway

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pathetic pricks the both of you

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-Already making America Great Again!

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2018 9:55 am
by 4071
So Trump is off lying to his supporters again.

First hit on his Twitter account is a video accusing Google of bias by continually linking to Obama's State of the Union address on their home page whilst excluding his. He demands that they #stopthebias

Of course, he's actually lying. And not only lying, but someone is doctoring images of the Google home page in the video to make it seem like there is bias there. Actively and knowingly lying in order to provoke further attacks on media platforms and to reinforce the misguided belief in conservatives that they are the ones under attack.

https://gizmodo.com/google-calls-bs-on- ... 1828701483
On Wednesday, Donald Trump escalated his war with major U.S. tech companies he and other prominent conservatives have been baselessly accusing of censoring right-wingers. In a video with an ominous soundtrack posted to his Twitter account, the president’s team accused search giant Google of featuring links to live streams of former President Barack Obama’s State of the Union addresses but not his.

The video, which appears to have been culled from an internet archiving service such as the Internet Archive’s Wayback Machine, shows Google’s homepage featuring links to live streams of Obama’s State of the Union below the main search bar from the years 2012-2016. In 2017 and 2018, the first two years of Trump’s term, the video appears to show the links to his equivalent speeches conspicuously absent.

Spoiler: Google says this is not true. According to a spokesperson for the company, they did not feature the link in 2017 for Trump’s speech to Congress, but neither did they do so for Obama’s first one in 2009. That’s because while these first-year speeches are often referred to as State of the Union events in popular parlance, they’re formally just addresses to Congress.

In 2018, Google said the link was indeed present:

On January 30 2018, we highlighted the livestream of President Trump’s State of the Union on the google.com homepage. We have historically not promoted the first address to Congress by a new President, which is technically not a State of the Union address. As a result, we didn’t include a promotion on google.com for this address in either 2009 or 2017.

Gizmodo has asked Google for a screenshot of the homepage featuring the link. However, in response to requests from other media organizations, the search giant directed reporters to a post from the subreddit for Trump’s supporters, r/The_Donald, dated from the evening of the January 30th speech. That post clearly shows the Google homepage featuring a link reading: “Live! Watch President Trump’s State of the Union Address on YouTube.”

Screenshot: Reddit

Occam’s Razor is that the White House haphazardly searched results from the Wayback Machine, which does show just a standard Google landing page for the dates in question, or something like it. But the Wayback Machine does not necessarily appear to have archived the version of the Google homepage that appeared to all users. For example, its archive of Google.com on January 29th, 2018 shows a standard company logo, though the company’s web site lists a Google Doodle in commemoration of pop singer Teresa Teng’s 65th birthday as running on that date.

Whoever did this research for the president could have simply been mistaken. However, State of the Union speeches and joint addresses are some of the highest-profile events of any presidency. The claim that Trump’s communications staff would have failed to notice an omission of that magnitude until right now, when the president is in the middle of an anti-Silicon Valley kick, barrels right through the limits of credibility. (Multiple entries on Google’s official blog show that the search giant coordinated with the White House for State of the Union week-themed content in the Obama era.)

In other words, the president thinks you’re all morons. News at 11.

Update, 7:38pm ET: By the way, Trump has pinned this video to the top of his Twitter account, meaning it is the first thing millions of visitors to his profile will see.

A screenshot of Trump’s Twitter page on August 29th, 2018.
Screenshot: Twitter


Update, 8:10pm ET: As flagged by Gizmodo commenter Daz, there’s another major discrepancy in Trump’s video. The portion of the clip showing a purported screenshot of the Google homepage in 2016 shows this version of the search company’s logo:


Screenshot: Twitter
But that’s not what the Google homepage would have looked like on the date in question. Google updated its logo in September 2015 to a version with a sans-serif typeface that looks like this:


Google’s current logo.
Graphic: The Verge (Google)

This version of the Google logo can be plainly seen in the archived version of the site’s homepage on January 8th, 2016, days before screenshot supposedly captured in Trump’s video.

In other words, sure looks like at least one of Trump’s screenshots was sloppily doctored. We reiterate: The president thinks you’re all morons.

Update, 11:30pm ET: As if you needed more evidence this whole thing is a manufactured controversy, Mark Graham, the director of the Internet Archive’s Wayback Machine, sent over additional archived versions of Google’s homepage clearly showing links to Trump’s speech. (Times shown are in GMT.)

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-Already making America Great Again!

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2018 10:34 am
by piquant
Santa wrote:Right. So we're agreed that you can remember things of which you were not a part.
What's the background to this, is the fat orange one now in favour of tearing down statues of white slave owners he was once so proud of?

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-Already making America Great Again!

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2018 10:37 am
by Santa
piquant wrote:
Santa wrote:Right. So we're agreed that you can remember things of which you were not a part.
What's the background to this, is the fat orange one now in favour of tearing down statues of white slave owners he was once so proud of?
Trump said he remembers pearl harbour.

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-Already making America Great Again!

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2018 10:39 am
by slick
Those tweets overnight were spectacular!

Particularly enjoyed the "WHITE HOUSE STATEMENTS" written in the 3rd person that were so obviously him sitting on the bog. Deranged.

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-Already making America Great Again!

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2018 10:46 am
by piquant
Santa wrote:
piquant wrote:
Santa wrote:Right. So we're agreed that you can remember things of which you were not a part.
What's the background to this, is the fat orange one now in favour of tearing down statues of white slave owners he was once so proud of?
Trump said he remembers pearl harbour.
Always possible his birth certificate was faked

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-Already making America Great Again!

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2018 10:53 am
by Ted.
Seneca of the Night wrote:
Laurent wrote:
Santa wrote:Right. So we're agreed that you can remember things of which you were not a part.
go visit the verdun area, you will remember a few things next time.



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Imbécile heureux.
Looks like a par 4 at makara.
I see you have not played Makara.

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-Already making America Great Again!

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2018 12:21 pm
by BokJock
Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) · Twitter

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump

What’s going on at @CNN is happening, to different degrees, at other networks - with @NBCNews being the worst. The good news is that Andy Lack(y) is about to be fired(?) for incompetence, and much worse. When Lester Holt got caught fudging my tape on Russia, they were hurt badly!

8 mins ago · Twitter
What did Lester Holt do? (except trick Trump to admitting on air that he obstructed justice of course)

Odd of Trump to go after Andy Luck, in light of what he might be getting the sack for...ie mishandling a #metoo case

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-Already making America Great Again!

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2018 1:18 pm
by Sandstorm
Ted. wrote:
Seneca of the Night wrote:
Laurent wrote:
Santa wrote:Right. So we're agreed that you can remember things of which you were not a part.
go visit the verdun area, you will remember a few things next time.



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Imbécile heureux.
Looks like a par 4 at makara.
I see you have not played Makara.
No, he was a caddy.

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-Already making America Great Again!

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2018 2:14 pm
by 4071
FBI contradict another Trump lie about China hacking Hillary's server.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 13581.html
The FBI has contradicted President Donald Trump's unsubstantiated claim that China hacked into the emails of his former campaign rival, Hillary Clinton.

"Hillary Clinton’s Emails, many of which are Classified Information, got hacked by China," Mr Trump tweeted early Wednesday morning. "Next move better be by the FBI & DOJ or, after all of their other missteps ... their credibility will be forever gone!

The president provided no evidence to back up his claim. On Wednesday, an FBI spokesperson told the Washington Post that the agency "has not found any evidence the servers were compromised".

Mr Trump's early-morning tweet followed a report from the Daily Caller, which claimed that "nearly all" of Ms Clinton's emails had been accessed by a Chinese-owned company in Washington, DC during her time as secretary of state. The report was later covered by Fox News, a favourite news source for the president.

A spokesman for Ms Clinton pushed back on the report, telling the Daily Caller: "The FBI spent thousands of hours investigating, and found no evidence of intrusion. That’s a fact."

Ms Clinton's use of a private email server as secretary of state has been a frequent topic of conversation for Mr Trump and his supporters since 2015, when the FBI launched an investigation into her conduct. The agency eventually found that Ms Clinton had been “extremely careless” in her use of the private email server, but did not recommend charges – a disappointing result for the crowds who chanted "Lock her up!" at Mr Trump's campaign rallies.

Mr Trump has since turned his ire against the FBI, accusing it of being biased in its investigation of Ms Clinton, and in its probe of possible Trump campaign collusion with Russia. In his first tweet about the alleged Chinese hacking, Mr Trump wrote: "Report just out: 'China hacked Hillary Clinton’s private Email Server.' Are they sure it wasn’t Russia (just kidding!)?"

The tweet was met with condemnation by the Chinese Foreign Ministry, which said they "firmly oppose and crack down on any forms of internet attacks and the stealing of secrets," according to Reuters.

Relations between the US and China have been strained since Mr Trump accused Beijing of predatory trade policies, and placed billions of dollars worth of tariffs on Chinese goods. China responded with matching tariffs on American imports, setting off a trade war between the world's two largest economies.

"China advocates that the international community jointly respond to cybersecurity threats through dialogue and cooperation, on the basis of mutual respect, equality and mutual benefit," Chinese Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Hua Chunying said.
I know he has a lot of support on here, but really - at what point do the relentless outright lies get too much? I know he 'triggers the Libs', and some people think that's fantastic. But he is also quite clearly deranged. And that's not a good thing in a President.

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-Already making America Great Again!

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2018 3:01 pm
by houtkabouter
Don’t trust an anonymous source unless it’s trumps anonymous source.

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-Already making America Great Again!

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2018 3:11 pm
by Hong Kong
Other news organisations have held back from calling the Orange shitgibbon a liar, instead labelling them misleading or untruths. They are being the very liberal limp wristed wankers that he suspects they are.

He’s a liar. There said it! Oh and America is not great again.

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-Already making America Great Again!

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2018 8:05 pm
by 4071
Seneca of the Night wrote:Nurse, fainting couches and smelling salts all round please.
Oh, that's right - we don't do standards any more. Having a senile chimp in an ill-fitting suit flinging shit everywhere is okay because it's about time your people were represented. For too long the reins of power have been held by people who aren't narcissistic, racist sociopaths, and it's about time that changed.