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Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2019 5:20 am
by Anonymous 1
saffer13 wrote:Have the PR libs not woken up yet? Was expecting more commentary after the speech.
Considering he was talking to his base I thought it was a really good speech. The bit about voting for him meant America was not now at war with North Korea was the best bit.

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2019 5:45 am
by Kiwias
Anonymous. wrote:
saffer13 wrote:Have the PR libs not woken up yet? Was expecting more commentary after the speech.
Considering he was talking to his base I thought it was a really good speech. The bit about voting for him meant America was not now at war with North Korea was the best bit.
The best part of that is that his base will actually believe him. :lol:

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2019 5:59 am
by Rinkals
Kiwias wrote:
Anonymous. wrote:
saffer13 wrote:Have the PR libs not woken up yet? Was expecting more commentary after the speech.
Considering he was talking to his base I thought it was a really good speech. The bit about voting for him meant America was not now at war with North Korea was the best bit.
The best part of that is that his base will actually believe him. :lol:
I saw a BBC piece a week or two ago filmed at some sort of stockcar-in-the-snow event where they interviewed participants and spectators and they all seemed to be enthusiastic Trump supporters.

Really, nothing surprises me about the US electorate anymore.

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2019 7:21 am
by Fat Old Git
Uthikoloshe wrote:
BokJock wrote:Watch out Uthokiloshe - there is a new stag sniffing around your territory
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Is that this fake news I keep hearing about?

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2019 7:24 am
by Big Nipper
Fat Old Git wrote:
Uthikoloshe wrote:
BokJock wrote:Watch out Uthokiloshe - there is a new stag sniffing around your territory
Image
Is that this fake news I keep hearing about?
I particularly enjoy how even the most ardent of Trump supporters draw him as a fat fcuk in their cartoons

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2019 7:31 am
by Anonymous 1
Kiwias wrote:
Anonymous. wrote:
saffer13 wrote:Have the PR libs not woken up yet? Was expecting more commentary after the speech.
Considering he was talking to his base I thought it was a really good speech. The bit about voting for him meant America was not now at war with North Korea was the best bit.
The best part of that is that his base will actually believe him. :lol:
It's like watching a good mockumentary. Outrageously hilarious claims delivered with a straight face.

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2019 8:11 am
by penguin
This is venal crap?

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2019 8:12 am
by penguin
Waiting for guff-man

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2019 8:16 am
by penguin
A mighty windbag

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2019 8:22 am
by penguin
Bore-rat: Corrupt reaming of America for make glorious benefit of nation of Russia

That's it...I don't know any other mockumentaries.

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2019 10:11 am
by Taranaki Snapper
saffer13 wrote:Have the PR libs not woken up yet? Was expecting more commentary after the speech.
Guy has already posted it, but Joshua Trump is Hereward The Woke, Leader of the Resistance...(and possibly one of your students, judging by the narcolepsy...)

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Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2019 10:16 am
by Turbogoat
Fat Old Git wrote:
Uthikoloshe wrote:
BokJock wrote:Watch out Uthokiloshe - there is a new stag sniffing around your territory
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Is that this fake news I keep hearing about?
When they have to claim the ability to get through a teleprompter version of one of his campaign rallies is a "home run" you know they're a little desperate for a win... y'know all that winning they were promised they were going to get o tired of?

He didn't mention the govt shutdown once, I thought FOX were claiming that as a win though?

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2019 10:22 am
by Taranaki Snapper
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Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2019 10:43 am
by piquant
penguin wrote:Bore-rat: Corrupt reaming of America for make glorious benefit of nation of Russia

That's it...I don't know any other mockumentaries.
We could ask how much more black could Trump be, and the answer is none, none more black

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2019 10:49 am
by penguin
piquant wrote:
penguin wrote:Bore-rat: Corrupt reaming of America for make glorious benefit of nation of Russia

That's it...I don't know any other mockumentaries.
We could ask how much more black could Trump be, and the answer is none, none more black
Had to look that one up.

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2019 11:37 am
by koroke hangareka
Big Nipper wrote:
Fat Old Git wrote:
Uthikoloshe wrote:
BokJock wrote:Watch out Uthokiloshe - there is a new stag sniffing around your territory
Image
Is that this fake news I keep hearing about?
I particularly enjoy how even the most ardent of Trump supporters draw him as a fat fcuk in their cartoons
Ah, they think they're drawing him normal person size.

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2019 12:03 pm
by waguser
saffer13 wrote:Have the PR libs not woken up yet? Was expecting more commentary after the speech.

Why would anyone subject themselves to his bollox.

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2019 1:26 pm
by piquant
penguin wrote:
piquant wrote:
penguin wrote:Bore-rat: Corrupt reaming of America for make glorious benefit of nation of Russia

That's it...I don't know any other mockumentaries.
We could ask how much more black could Trump be, and the answer is none, none more black
Had to look that one up.
It was your venal crap line above which put it in mind. And it's just occurred Trump loses cabinet members like they're drummers

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2019 2:05 pm
by saffer13
Rinkals wrote:
Kiwias wrote:
Anonymous. wrote:
saffer13 wrote:Have the PR libs not woken up yet? Was expecting more commentary after the speech.
Considering he was talking to his base I thought it was a really good speech. The bit about voting for him meant America was not now at war with North Korea was the best bit.
The best part of that is that his base will actually believe him. :lol:
I saw a BBC piece a week or two ago filmed at some sort of stockcar-in-the-snow event where they interviewed participants and spectators and they all seemed to be enthusiastic Trump supporters.

Really, nothing surprises me about the US electorate anymore.
Ah, selective clips showing stupid people and equating them to a particular political party. Because those clips don't exist for Libs, right rinki :roll:

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2019 2:08 pm
by saffer13
Uthikoloshe wrote:
BokJock wrote:Watch out Uthokiloshe - there is a new stag sniffing around your territory
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Yes, CNN reported an almost 80% positive response to the SOTU. However, as has been pointed out, only republicans watched it so 20% of his base didn't like it apparently.

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2019 2:09 pm
by Uthikoloshe
Have you been talking to the communists again? ;)

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2019 2:33 pm
by houtkabouter
I’m surprised by that cartoon surely his bone spurs would make it difficult for him to play sport?

Or are bone spurs also something libtards made up?

Along with truth, justice and science.

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2019 2:36 pm
by saffer13
Uthikoloshe wrote:Have you been talking to the communists again? ;)
No, the socialists told me.

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2019 2:52 pm
by piquant
houtkabouter wrote:I’m surprised by that cartoon surely his bone spurs would make it difficult for him to play sport?

Or are bone spurs also something libtards made up?

Along with truth, justice and science.
Ithink we all know who made up the bone spurs, move along, there's nothing to see there

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2019 3:34 pm
by saffer13
Going back to the VA saga...
Top guy in charge (Dem) - black face and kkk photo scandal
Second in charge (Dem) - sexual assault allegations (do dems believe the victim?) - alleged victim has hired the same lawyer as Ford.
Now the 3rd in charge (Dem) - also caught up in a blackface scandal after suggesting guy 1 resigns over said scandal

The best part...4th guy in charge, should the first 3 be forced to step down, is a Repub :lol:

Now granted, he probably has some scandal that will be coming out soon as well.

From your favorite Fox pundit, Tucker...re: Booker.
But this time, they don't believe all women. They don't care about Vanessa Tyson. "F--- her," in the words of the lt. governor. She is in the way. Presidential candidate Cory Booker, a self-described very good person, has dismissed Tyson completely as unimportant. "I think we should be focusing on what's right now happening with the governor," he told a reporter." I know you guys are going to try to focus on a lot of things right now, but right now, my focus is on, again, calling for the governor to step down."

Yes, Booker has got better things to focus on than some girl in California who's alleging sexual assault against one of his party mates. The Cory Booker from just a few months ago would be disgusted by this Cory Booker. Back then sexual politics seem more important than racial politics. And now it's the other way around. It's the never-ending car crash of intersectionality.

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2019 3:37 pm
by houtkabouter
They might not have been about escaping Vietnam though.

Maybe he was saying he’s like the cowboy of death, all in black with silver sixguns and bone spurs...

Then the libs just kind of leftied it into a snowflake version.

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2019 3:42 pm
by houtkabouter
saffer13 wrote:Going back to the VA saga...
Top guy in charge (Dem) - black face and kkk photo scandal
Second in charge (Dem) - sexual assault allegations (do dems believe the victim?) - alleged victim has hired the same lawyer as Ford.
Now the 3rd in charge (Dem) - also caught up in a blackface scandal after suggesting guy 1 resigns over said scandal

The best part...4th guy in charge, should the first 3 be forced to step down, is a Repub :lol:

Now granted, he probably has some scandal that will be coming out soon as well.
The sexual assault allegations should definitely be investigated properly. At the same time they can reopen Fords allegation and investigate it properly too.

The black face guys should resign or be fired at the same time they should look into republicans who did similar things. Like Mitch McConnel for example. They should also be forced to resign.

My expectation however is the dems will resign or be forced to leave office.

The republicans won’t do a f**king thing and their conservative base will just make excuse after excuse as to why it’s okay.

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2019 3:48 pm
by saffer13
houtkabouter wrote:
saffer13 wrote:Going back to the VA saga...
Top guy in charge (Dem) - black face and kkk photo scandal
Second in charge (Dem) - sexual assault allegations (do dems believe the victim?) - alleged victim has hired the same lawyer as Ford.
Now the 3rd in charge (Dem) - also caught up in a blackface scandal after suggesting guy 1 resigns over said scandal

The best part...4th guy in charge, should the first 3 be forced to step down, is a Repub :lol:

Now granted, he probably has some scandal that will be coming out soon as well.
The sexual assault allegations should definitely be investigated properly. At the same time they can reopen Fords allegation and investigate it properly too.

The black face guys should resign or be fired at the same time they should look into republicans who did similar things. Like Mitch McConnel for example. They should also be forced to resign.

My expectation however is the dems will resign or be forced to leave office.

The republicans won’t do a f**king thing and their conservative base will just make excuse after excuse as to why it’s okay.
I suspect the blackface incidents will be the focus, with mums the word on the sexual assault cases...as Mr. Booker has already suggested. But heck, maybe he's just starting at the top and working his way down. I agree about the sexual assault, it should be investigated to at least the same level of public scrutiny Mr. Kav had to face. As for the alleged accused, innocent until proven guilty is what it should be. I don't think a general "everyone should just be believed" is the way to go. However the allegations do need to be taken seriously and looked into. :thumbup:

But houts, for someone always screaming at the hypocricy shown by the repubs, do you see any in how this situation is being handled by the dems?

By the way, as for the blackface scandals...at one point do you get to "it was decades ago and they may have learned or apologized for it so we should be able to move on like adults" ?

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2019 3:55 pm
by Turbogoat
houtkabouter wrote:
saffer13 wrote:Going back to the VA saga...
Top guy in charge (Dem) - black face and kkk photo scandal
Second in charge (Dem) - sexual assault allegations (do dems believe the victim?) - alleged victim has hired the same lawyer as Ford.
Now the 3rd in charge (Dem) - also caught up in a blackface scandal after suggesting guy 1 resigns over said scandal

The best part...4th guy in charge, should the first 3 be forced to step down, is a Repub :lol:

Now granted, he probably has some scandal that will be coming out soon as well.
The sexual assault allegations should definitely be investigated properly. At the same time they can reopen Fords allegation and investigate it properly too.

The black face guys should resign or be fired at the same time they should look into republicans who did similar things. Like Mitch McConnel for example. They should also be forced to resign.

My expectation however is the dems will resign or be forced to leave office.

The republicans won’t do a f**king thing and their conservative base will just make excuse after excuse as to why it’s okay.
It's interesting to see how things are playing out. Saffer13 already made the comparison to Kavanaugh who didn't feel the need to step aside due to mere allegations either, but another comparison is Steve King whose very recent comments on White Supremacy etc... have caused a bit of a stir. He hasn't stepped aside either, but there has been quite a bit of blowback from more responsible Republicans who have dropped him from various committees in response.
It'll be interesting to see where he ends up at the next elections. Iowa may want to boot him in a primary rather than have him run against a Democrat.

The search through the yearbooks that brought all this to light all came from one of the anti-abortion groups, in response to Northam giving his expert medical opinion on the abortion debate that was being utterly derailed with misinformation from the same anti-abortion groups. they must have been falling over themselves with glee when they found something that would be such an anathema to the Democrats, they really struck gold with this one.

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2019 3:58 pm
by saffer13
Turbo - you'll notice I haven't called for the dem fella to step aside for mere allegations either though. Innocent until proven guilty :thumbup:

As for the Steve King comments. I support him being thrown out.

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2019 3:59 pm
by Bowens
The Attorney General was dressed as a rapper. Not the same as Northam choosing to put a Klan hood in his yearbook. It’s considered insensitive in the current climate but not something to resign over.

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2019 4:01 pm
by saffer13
Bowens wrote:The Attorney General was dressed as a rapper. Not the same as Northam choosing to put a Klan hood in his yearbook. It’s considered insensitive in the current climate but not something to resign over.
In the world of everything called cultural appropriation, dressing up as a rapper and using blackface is just as bad it seems. That's what I've been told by DT and co.

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2019 4:02 pm
by Turbogoat
saffer13 wrote:Turbo - you'll notice I haven't called for the dem fella to step aside for mere allegations either though. Innocent until proven guilty :thumbup:

As for the Steve King comments. I support him being thrown out.
Hope you support a 5 working day investigation that doesn't interview the subjects then too. ;)

Quite a few prominent GOPers also called for King to resign, which I should have mentioned in the previous post - good to see that it's not acceptable on either side.

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2019 4:31 pm
by houtkabouter
Turbogoat wrote:
saffer13 wrote:Turbo - you'll notice I haven't called for the dem fella to step aside for mere allegations either though. Innocent until proven guilty :thumbup:

As for the Steve King comments. I support him being thrown out.
Hope you support a 5 working day investigation that doesn't interview the subjects then too. ;)

Quite a few prominent GOPers also called for King to resign, which I should have mentioned in the previous post - good to see that it's not acceptable on either side.
All investigations in America should be like Kavs, it would solve their prison population problem.

I like beer is great defense.

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2019 4:33 pm
by saffer13
houtkabouter wrote:
Turbogoat wrote:
saffer13 wrote:Turbo - you'll notice I haven't called for the dem fella to step aside for mere allegations either though. Innocent until proven guilty :thumbup:

As for the Steve King comments. I support him being thrown out.
Hope you support a 5 working day investigation that doesn't interview the subjects then too. ;)

Quite a few prominent GOPers also called for King to resign, which I should have mentioned in the previous post - good to see that it's not acceptable on either side.
All investigations in America should be like Kavs, it would solve their prison population problem.

I like beer is great defense.
:yawn:

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2019 4:39 pm
by houtkabouter
saffer13 wrote:
houtkabouter wrote:
saffer13 wrote:Going back to the VA saga...
Top guy in charge (Dem) - black face and kkk photo scandal
Second in charge (Dem) - sexual assault allegations (do dems believe the victim?) - alleged victim has hired the same lawyer as Ford.
Now the 3rd in charge (Dem) - also caught up in a blackface scandal after suggesting guy 1 resigns over said scandal

The best part...4th guy in charge, should the first 3 be forced to step down, is a Repub :lol:

Now granted, he probably has some scandal that will be coming out soon as well.
The sexual assault allegations should definitely be investigated properly. At the same time they can reopen Fords allegation and investigate it properly too.

The black face guys should resign or be fired at the same time they should look into republicans who did similar things. Like Mitch McConnel for example. They should also be forced to resign.

My expectation however is the dems will resign or be forced to leave office.

The republicans won’t do a f**king thing and their conservative base will just make excuse after excuse as to why it’s okay.
I suspect the blackface incidents will be the focus, with mums the word on the sexual assault cases...as Mr. Booker has already suggested. But heck, maybe he's just starting at the top and working his way down. I agree about the sexual assault, it should be investigated to at least the same level of public scrutiny Mr. Kav had to face. As for the alleged accused, innocent until proven guilty is what it should be. I don't think a general "everyone should just be believed" is the way to go. However the allegations do need to be taken seriously and looked into. :thumbup:

But houts, for someone always screaming at the hypocricy shown by the repubs, do you see any in how this situation is being handled by the dems?

By the way, as for the blackface scandals...at one point do you get to "it was decades ago and they may have learned or apologized for it so we should be able to move on like adults" ?
I think this is another perfect example of republican hypocrisy and deceit.

The guilty dems will be gone without a doubt.

The guilty republicans will churn around the bowl, refusing to be flushed and you guys will be totally cool with it.

That’s what you do, you’re cool with sexual assaulters in the highest office. As long as they pay lip service to abortion control you’ll accept anything.

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2019 4:46 pm
by Bowens
As long as they pay lip service to abortion control you’ll accept anything.
Florida’s Republican Secretary of State just resigned over blackface. Governor “Coonman” is still hanging in there last I checked.

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2019 4:48 pm
by saffer13
houtkabouter wrote:
saffer13 wrote:
houtkabouter wrote:
saffer13 wrote:Going back to the VA saga...
Top guy in charge (Dem) - black face and kkk photo scandal
Second in charge (Dem) - sexual assault allegations (do dems believe the victim?) - alleged victim has hired the same lawyer as Ford.
Now the 3rd in charge (Dem) - also caught up in a blackface scandal after suggesting guy 1 resigns over said scandal

The best part...4th guy in charge, should the first 3 be forced to step down, is a Repub :lol:

Now granted, he probably has some scandal that will be coming out soon as well.
The sexual assault allegations should definitely be investigated properly. At the same time they can reopen Fords allegation and investigate it properly too.

The black face guys should resign or be fired at the same time they should look into republicans who did similar things. Like Mitch McConnel for example. They should also be forced to resign.

My expectation however is the dems will resign or be forced to leave office.

The republicans won’t do a f**king thing and their conservative base will just make excuse after excuse as to why it’s okay.
I suspect the blackface incidents will be the focus, with mums the word on the sexual assault cases...as Mr. Booker has already suggested. But heck, maybe he's just starting at the top and working his way down. I agree about the sexual assault, it should be investigated to at least the same level of public scrutiny Mr. Kav had to face. As for the alleged accused, innocent until proven guilty is what it should be. I don't think a general "everyone should just be believed" is the way to go. However the allegations do need to be taken seriously and looked into. :thumbup:

But houts, for someone always screaming at the hypocricy shown by the repubs, do you see any in how this situation is being handled by the dems?

By the way, as for the blackface scandals...at one point do you get to "it was decades ago and they may have learned or apologized for it so we should be able to move on like adults" ?
I think this is another perfect example of republican hypocrisy and deceit.

The guilty dems will be gone without a doubt.

The guilty republicans will churn around the bowl, refusing to be flushed and you guys will be totally cool with it.

That’s what you do, you’re cool with sexual assaulters in the highest office. As long as they pay lip service to abortion control you’ll accept anything.
Which guilty republicans?

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2019 4:58 pm
by houtkabouter
Why the ones we are not allowed to investigate saffer.

Your favourite president admitted to sexually assaulting women, the whole world heard him, but you’re still okay with him.

Justin Fairfax should be investigated and face criminal punishment if any of these allegations are true.

Do you think it should be :

A. A Kav style investigation timeboxed to 5 days without interviewing the accused, the victim and a bunch of other witnesses?
B. A genuine investigation where proper protocols are followed and all leads explored?

Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2019 5:08 pm
by saffer13
houtkabouter wrote:Why the ones we are not allowed to investigate saffer.

Your favourite president admitted to sexually assaulting women, the whole world heard him, but you’re still okay with him.

Justin Fairfax should be investigated and face criminal punishment if any of these allegations are true.

Do you think it should be :

A. A Kav style investigation timeboxed to 5 days without interviewing the accused, the victim and a bunch of other witnesses?
B. A genuine investigation where proper protocols are followed and all leads explored?
If Fairfax gets an extensive Kav-style investigation that spanned multiple background checks and investigations beyond just the official 5-day thing you keep banging on about and then also faces the public scrutiny that he and his family had to sit through, I'll be very surprised.

With Kav you have an accusser who said something happened and the accussed who said absolutely not, nothing happened.
With Fairfax, we know it happened, he's just saying everything was consensual, no?

You always claim to see politcal stunts for what they are...yet you ignore the obvious one with the Kav saga. The stuntmen dropped her like a hot potato as soon as they realized that card wasn't going to get them anywhere.

As for "not being allowed to investigate people" that's bollox. You're just upset at the outcome not being what you had hoped for.