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piquant wrote:

penguin wrote:Bore-rat: Corrupt reaming of America for make glorious benefit of nation of Russia

That's it...I don't know any other mockumentaries.

We could ask how much more black could Trump be, and the answer is none, none more black

Had to look that one up.

Big Nipper wrote:

Fat Old Git wrote:

Uthikoloshe wrote:

BokJock wrote:Watch out Uthokiloshe - there is a new stag sniffing around your territory

Is that this fake news I keep hearing about?

I particularly enjoy how even the most ardent of Trump supporters draw him as a fat fcuk in their cartoons

Ah, they think they're drawing him normal person size.

saffer13 wrote:Have the PR libs not woken up yet? Was expecting more commentary after the speech.

Why would anyone subject themselves to his bollox.

penguin wrote:

piquant wrote:

penguin wrote:Bore-rat: Corrupt reaming of America for make glorious benefit of nation of Russia

That's it...I don't know any other mockumentaries.

We could ask how much more black could Trump be, and the answer is none, none more black

Had to look that one up.

It was your venal crap line above which put it in mind. And it's just occurred Trump loses cabinet members like they're drummers

Rinkals wrote:

Kiwias wrote:

Anonymous. wrote:

saffer13 wrote:Have the PR libs not woken up yet? Was expecting more commentary after the speech.

Considering he was talking to his base I thought it was a really good speech. The bit about voting for him meant America was not now at war with North Korea was the best bit.

The best part of that is that his base will actually believe him.

I saw a BBC piece a week or two ago filmed at some sort of stockcar-in-the-snow event where they interviewed participants and spectators and they all seemed to be enthusiastic Trump supporters.

Really, nothing surprises me about the US electorate anymore.

Ah, selective clips showing stupid people and equating them to a particular political party. Because those clips don't exist for Libs, right rinki

Uthikoloshe wrote:

BokJock wrote:Watch out Uthokiloshe - there is a new stag sniffing around your territory

Yes, CNN reported an almost 80% positive response to the SOTU. However, as has been pointed out, only republicans watched it so 20% of his base didn't like it apparently.

Have you been talking to the communists again?

I’m surprised by that cartoon surely his bone spurs would make it difficult for him to play sport?

Or are bone spurs also something libtards made up?

Along with truth, justice and science.

Uthikoloshe wrote:Have you been talking to the communists again?

No, the socialists told me.

houtkabouter wrote:I’m surprised by that cartoon surely his bone spurs would make it difficult for him to play sport?

Or are bone spurs also something libtards made up?

Along with truth, justice and science.

Ithink we all know who made up the bone spurs, move along, there's nothing to see there

Going back to the VA saga...
Top guy in charge (Dem) - black face and kkk photo scandal
Second in charge (Dem) - sexual assault allegations (do dems believe the victim?) - alleged victim has hired the same lawyer as Ford.
Now the 3rd in charge (Dem) - also caught up in a blackface scandal after suggesting guy 1 resigns over said scandal

The best part...4th guy in charge, should the first 3 be forced to step down, is a Repub

Now granted, he probably has some scandal that will be coming out soon as well.

From your favorite Fox pundit, Tucker...re: Booker.

But this time, they don't believe all women. They don't care about Vanessa Tyson. "F--- her," in the words of the lt. governor. She is in the way. Presidential candidate Cory Booker, a self-described very good person, has dismissed Tyson completely as unimportant. "I think we should be focusing on what's right now happening with the governor," he told a reporter." I know you guys are going to try to focus on a lot of things right now, but right now, my focus is on, again, calling for the governor to step down."

Yes, Booker has got better things to focus on than some girl in California who's alleging sexual assault against one of his party mates. The Cory Booker from just a few months ago would be disgusted by this Cory Booker. Back then sexual politics seem more important than racial politics. And now it's the other way around. It's the never-ending car crash of intersectionality.

They might not have been about escaping Vietnam though.

Maybe he was saying he’s like the cowboy of death, all in black with silver sixguns and bone spurs...

Then the libs just kind of leftied it into a snowflake version.

saffer13 wrote:Going back to the VA saga...
Top guy in charge (Dem) - black face and kkk photo scandal
Second in charge (Dem) - sexual assault allegations (do dems believe the victim?) - alleged victim has hired the same lawyer as Ford.
Now the 3rd in charge (Dem) - also caught up in a blackface scandal after suggesting guy 1 resigns over said scandal

The best part...4th guy in charge, should the first 3 be forced to step down, is a Repub

Now granted, he probably has some scandal that will be coming out soon as well.

The sexual assault allegations should definitely be investigated properly. At the same time they can reopen Fords allegation and investigate it properly too.

The black face guys should resign or be fired at the same time they should look into republicans who did similar things. Like Mitch McConnel for example. They should also be forced to resign.

My expectation however is the dems will resign or be forced to leave office.

The republicans won’t do a f**king thing and their conservative base will just make excuse after excuse as to why it’s okay.

houtkabouter wrote:

saffer13 wrote:Going back to the VA saga...
Top guy in charge (Dem) - black face and kkk photo scandal
Second in charge (Dem) - sexual assault allegations (do dems believe the victim?) - alleged victim has hired the same lawyer as Ford.
Now the 3rd in charge (Dem) - also caught up in a blackface scandal after suggesting guy 1 resigns over said scandal

The best part...4th guy in charge, should the first 3 be forced to step down, is a Repub

Now granted, he probably has some scandal that will be coming out soon as well.

The sexual assault allegations should definitely be investigated properly. At the same time they can reopen Fords allegation and investigate it properly too.

The black face guys should resign or be fired at the same time they should look into republicans who did similar things. Like Mitch McConnel for example. They should also be forced to resign.

My expectation however is the dems will resign or be forced to leave office.

The republicans won’t do a f**king thing and their conservative base will just make excuse after excuse as to why it’s okay.

I suspect the blackface incidents will be the focus, with mums the word on the sexual assault cases...as Mr. Booker has already suggested. But heck, maybe he's just starting at the top and working his way down. I agree about the sexual assault, it should be investigated to at least the same level of public scrutiny Mr. Kav had to face. As for the alleged accused, innocent until proven guilty is what it should be. I don't think a general "everyone should just be believed" is the way to go. However the allegations do need to be taken seriously and looked into.

But houts, for someone always screaming at the hypocricy shown by the repubs, do you see any in how this situation is being handled by the dems?

By the way, as for the blackface scandals...at one point do you get to "it was decades ago and they may have learned or apologized for it so we should be able to move on like adults" ?

houtkabouter wrote:

saffer13 wrote:Going back to the VA saga...
Top guy in charge (Dem) - black face and kkk photo scandal
Second in charge (Dem) - sexual assault allegations (do dems believe the victim?) - alleged victim has hired the same lawyer as Ford.
Now the 3rd in charge (Dem) - also caught up in a blackface scandal after suggesting guy 1 resigns over said scandal

The best part...4th guy in charge, should the first 3 be forced to step down, is a Repub

Now granted, he probably has some scandal that will be coming out soon as well.

The sexual assault allegations should definitely be investigated properly. At the same time they can reopen Fords allegation and investigate it properly too.

The black face guys should resign or be fired at the same time they should look into republicans who did similar things. Like Mitch McConnel for example. They should also be forced to resign.

My expectation however is the dems will resign or be forced to leave office.

The republicans won’t do a f**king thing and their conservative base will just make excuse after excuse as to why it’s okay.

It's interesting to see how things are playing out. Saffer13 already made the comparison to Kavanaugh who didn't feel the need to step aside due to mere allegations either, but another comparison is Steve King whose very recent comments on White Supremacy etc... have caused a bit of a stir. He hasn't stepped aside either, but there has been quite a bit of blowback from more responsible Republicans who have dropped him from various committees in response.
It'll be interesting to see where he ends up at the next elections. Iowa may want to boot him in a primary rather than have him run against a Democrat.

The search through the yearbooks that brought all this to light all came from one of the anti-abortion groups, in response to Northam giving his expert medical opinion on the abortion debate that was being utterly derailed with misinformation from the same anti-abortion groups. they must have been falling over themselves with glee when they found something that would be such an anathema to the Democrats, they really struck gold with this one.

Turbo - you'll notice I haven't called for the dem fella to step aside for mere allegations either though. Innocent until proven guilty

As for the Steve King comments. I support him being thrown out.

The Attorney General was dressed as a rapper. Not the same as Northam choosing to put a Klan hood in his yearbook. It’s considered insensitive in the current climate but not something to resign over.

Bowens wrote:The Attorney General was dressed as a rapper. Not the same as Northam choosing to put a Klan hood in his yearbook. It’s considered insensitive in the current climate but not something to resign over.

In the world of everything called cultural appropriation, dressing up as a rapper and using blackface is just as bad it seems. That's what I've been told by DT and co.

saffer13 wrote:Turbo - you'll notice I haven't called for the dem fella to step aside for mere allegations either though. Innocent until proven guilty

As for the Steve King comments. I support him being thrown out.

Hope you support a 5 working day investigation that doesn't interview the subjects then too.

Quite a few prominent GOPers also called for King to resign, which I should have mentioned in the previous post - good to see that it's not acceptable on either side.

Turbogoat wrote:

saffer13 wrote:Turbo - you'll notice I haven't called for the dem fella to step aside for mere allegations either though. Innocent until proven guilty

As for the Steve King comments. I support him being thrown out.

Hope you support a 5 working day investigation that doesn't interview the subjects then too.

Quite a few prominent GOPers also called for King to resign, which I should have mentioned in the previous post - good to see that it's not acceptable on either side.

All investigations in America should be like Kavs, it would solve their prison population problem.

I like beer is great defense.

houtkabouter wrote:

Turbogoat wrote:

saffer13 wrote:Turbo - you'll notice I haven't called for the dem fella to step aside for mere allegations either though. Innocent until proven guilty

As for the Steve King comments. I support him being thrown out.

Hope you support a 5 working day investigation that doesn't interview the subjects then too.

Quite a few prominent GOPers also called for King to resign, which I should have mentioned in the previous post - good to see that it's not acceptable on either side.

All investigations in America should be like Kavs, it would solve their prison population problem.

I like beer is great defense.

saffer13 wrote:

houtkabouter wrote:

saffer13 wrote:Going back to the VA saga...
Top guy in charge (Dem) - black face and kkk photo scandal
Second in charge (Dem) - sexual assault allegations (do dems believe the victim?) - alleged victim has hired the same lawyer as Ford.
Now the 3rd in charge (Dem) - also caught up in a blackface scandal after suggesting guy 1 resigns over said scandal

The best part...4th guy in charge, should the first 3 be forced to step down, is a Repub

Now granted, he probably has some scandal that will be coming out soon as well.

The sexual assault allegations should definitely be investigated properly. At the same time they can reopen Fords allegation and investigate it properly too.

The black face guys should resign or be fired at the same time they should look into republicans who did similar things. Like Mitch McConnel for example. They should also be forced to resign.

My expectation however is the dems will resign or be forced to leave office.

The republicans won’t do a f**king thing and their conservative base will just make excuse after excuse as to why it’s okay.

I suspect the blackface incidents will be the focus, with mums the word on the sexual assault cases...as Mr. Booker has already suggested. But heck, maybe he's just starting at the top and working his way down. I agree about the sexual assault, it should be investigated to at least the same level of public scrutiny Mr. Kav had to face. As for the alleged accused, innocent until proven guilty is what it should be. I don't think a general "everyone should just be believed" is the way to go. However the allegations do need to be taken seriously and looked into.

But houts, for someone always screaming at the hypocricy shown by the repubs, do you see any in how this situation is being handled by the dems?

By the way, as for the blackface scandals...at one point do you get to "it was decades ago and they may have learned or apologized for it so we should be able to move on like adults" ?

I think this is another perfect example of republican hypocrisy and deceit.

The guilty dems will be gone without a doubt.

The guilty republicans will churn around the bowl, refusing to be flushed and you guys will be totally cool with it.

That’s what you do, you’re cool with sexual assaulters in the highest office. As long as they pay lip service to abortion control you’ll accept anything.

As long as they pay lip service to abortion control you’ll accept anything.

Florida’s Republican Secretary of State just resigned over blackface. Governor “Coonman” is still hanging in there last I checked.

houtkabouter wrote:

saffer13 wrote:

houtkabouter wrote:

saffer13 wrote:Going back to the VA saga...
Top guy in charge (Dem) - black face and kkk photo scandal
Second in charge (Dem) - sexual assault allegations (do dems believe the victim?) - alleged victim has hired the same lawyer as Ford.
Now the 3rd in charge (Dem) - also caught up in a blackface scandal after suggesting guy 1 resigns over said scandal

The best part...4th guy in charge, should the first 3 be forced to step down, is a Repub

Now granted, he probably has some scandal that will be coming out soon as well.

The sexual assault allegations should definitely be investigated properly. At the same time they can reopen Fords allegation and investigate it properly too.

The black face guys should resign or be fired at the same time they should look into republicans who did similar things. Like Mitch McConnel for example. They should also be forced to resign.

My expectation however is the dems will resign or be forced to leave office.

The republicans won’t do a f**king thing and their conservative base will just make excuse after excuse as to why it’s okay.

I suspect the blackface incidents will be the focus, with mums the word on the sexual assault cases...as Mr. Booker has already suggested. But heck, maybe he's just starting at the top and working his way down. I agree about the sexual assault, it should be investigated to at least the same level of public scrutiny Mr. Kav had to face. As for the alleged accused, innocent until proven guilty is what it should be. I don't think a general "everyone should just be believed" is the way to go. However the allegations do need to be taken seriously and looked into.

But houts, for someone always screaming at the hypocricy shown by the repubs, do you see any in how this situation is being handled by the dems?

By the way, as for the blackface scandals...at one point do you get to "it was decades ago and they may have learned or apologized for it so we should be able to move on like adults" ?

I think this is another perfect example of republican hypocrisy and deceit.

The guilty dems will be gone without a doubt.

The guilty republicans will churn around the bowl, refusing to be flushed and you guys will be totally cool with it.

That’s what you do, you’re cool with sexual assaulters in the highest office. As long as they pay lip service to abortion control you’ll accept anything.

Which guilty republicans?

Why the ones we are not allowed to investigate saffer.

Your favourite president admitted to sexually assaulting women, the whole world heard him, but you’re still okay with him.

Justin Fairfax should be investigated and face criminal punishment if any of these allegations are true.

Do you think it should be :

A. A Kav style investigation timeboxed to 5 days without interviewing the accused, the victim and a bunch of other witnesses?
B. A genuine investigation where proper protocols are followed and all leads explored?

houtkabouter wrote:Why the ones we are not allowed to investigate saffer.

Your favourite president admitted to sexually assaulting women, the whole world heard him, but you’re still okay with him.

Justin Fairfax should be investigated and face criminal punishment if any of these allegations are true.

Do you think it should be :

A. A Kav style investigation timeboxed to 5 days without interviewing the accused, the victim and a bunch of other witnesses?
B. A genuine investigation where proper protocols are followed and all leads explored?

If Fairfax gets an extensive Kav-style investigation that spanned multiple background checks and investigations beyond just the official 5-day thing you keep banging on about and then also faces the public scrutiny that he and his family had to sit through, I'll be very surprised.

With Kav you have an accusser who said something happened and the accussed who said absolutely not, nothing happened.
With Fairfax, we know it happened, he's just saying everything was consensual, no?

You always claim to see politcal stunts for what they are...yet you ignore the obvious one with the Kav saga. The stuntmen dropped her like a hot potato as soon as they realized that card wasn't going to get them anywhere.

As for "not being allowed to investigate people" that's bollox. You're just upset at the outcome not being what you had hoped for.

A background check is not an investigation Saffer, I’ve been through multiple background checks to get my clearance.

They my are typically forms you fill in yourself, the discovery has a finite point.

Of the 10+ I’ve been through only one was extensive but never extensive enough to be considered and investigation of any type because you don’t have authority to extend.

It’s one of the reasons Muellers INVESTIGATION is taking so long because investigating is a discovery process, background check are a checking process.

Kavanaughs “investigation” was a joke. It shouldn’t even be called an investigation. It’s was a series of interviews with his friends.

houtkabouter wrote:A background check is not an investigation Saffer, I’ve been through multiple background checks to get my clearance.

They my are typically forms you fill in yourself, the discovery has a finite point.

Of the 10+ I’ve been through only one was extensive but never extensive enough to be considered and investigation of any type because you don’t have authority to extend.

It’s one of the reasons Muellers INVESTIGATION is taking so long because investigating is discovery process background check are a checking process.

Kavanaughs “investigation” was a joke. It shouldn’t even be called an investigation. It’s was a series of interviews with his friends.

I thought Republicans weren't allowed to be investigated though? Especially those in power....like the President.

I'm aware that background checks are not the same, that's why I added the word "and" before investigations

Uthikoloshe wrote:

You are slipping - that one was mildly funny

saffer13 wrote:

houtkabouter wrote:A background check is not an investigation Saffer, I’ve been through multiple background checks to get my clearance.

They my are typically forms you fill in yourself, the discovery has a finite point.

Of the 10+ I’ve been through only one was extensive but never extensive enough to be considered and investigation of any type because you don’t have authority to extend.

It’s one of the reasons Muellers INVESTIGATION is taking so long because investigating is discovery process background check are a checking process.

Kavanaughs “investigation” was a joke. It shouldn’t even be called an investigation. It’s was a series of interviews with his friends.

I thought Republicans weren't allowed to be investigated though? Especially those in power....like the President.

I'm aware that background checks are not the same, that's why I added the word "and" before investigations

What other investigation bar the timeboxed “investigation” are your referring to?

I’m disputing it is an investigation at all, it was a green lighting exercise.

houtkabouter wrote:

saffer13 wrote:

houtkabouter wrote:A background check is not an investigation Saffer, I’ve been through multiple background checks to get my clearance.

They my are typically forms you fill in yourself, the discovery has a finite point.

Of the 10+ I’ve been through only one was extensive but never extensive enough to be considered and investigation of any type because you don’t have authority to extend.

It’s one of the reasons Muellers INVESTIGATION is taking so long because investigating is discovery process background check are a checking process.

Kavanaughs “investigation” was a joke. It shouldn’t even be called an investigation. It’s was a series of interviews with his friends.

I thought Republicans weren't allowed to be investigated though? Especially those in power....like the President.

I'm aware that background checks are not the same, that's why I added the word "and" before investigations

What other investigation bar the timeboxed investigation are your referring to?

First, you said nobody was allowed to interview the top Repubs...care to say you were lying?
As for the investigation, let's be real for a second...it really doesn't matter what kind of investigation there was, you would have found a flaw. I'm sure if the now over 2-year investigation into the guy that's apparently not allowed to be investigated comes up with no Russian collusion, as has been suggested it will, it will either be due to obstructionism or an issue with the investigation and then we'll suddenly move on to the next investigation. Bottom line is, there is an absolute need from some to find something, anything...their hate is so strong.

houtkabouter wrote:

saffer13 wrote:

houtkabouter wrote:A background check is not an investigation Saffer, I’ve been through multiple background checks to get my clearance.

They my are typically forms you fill in yourself, the discovery has a finite point.

Of the 10+ I’ve been through only one was extensive but never extensive enough to be considered and investigation of any type because you don’t have authority to extend.

It’s one of the reasons Muellers INVESTIGATION is taking so long because investigating is discovery process background check are a checking process.

Kavanaughs “investigation” was a joke. It shouldn’t even be called an investigation. It’s was a series of interviews with his friends.

I thought Republicans weren't allowed to be investigated though? Especially those in power....like the President.

I'm aware that background checks are not the same, that's why I added the word "and" before investigations

What other investigation bar the timeboxed “investigation” are your referring to?

I’m disputing it is an investigation at all, it was a green lighting exercise.

Trump has been assured by many senior FBI types that he is not a target OR a subject of an investigation. They assured him of this repeatedly, apparently.

This insistenc e on people today getting offended over shit people did years, even decades ago is nuts. It was nuts when it happened to Kav and it's nuts now. Wonder if it would be possible for the person in question to just come out saying sorry and just admit they were ignorant back then and that they've since learned and changed. Wonder if that would do anything or are people just so eager for offence these days?

flaggETERNAL wrote:This insistenc e on people today getting offended over shit people did years, even decades ago is nuts. It was nuts when it happened to Kav and it's nuts now. Wonder if it would be possible for the person in question to just come out saying sorry and just admit they were ignorant back then and that they've since learned and changed. Wonder if that would do anything or are people just so eager for offence these days?

I was just thinking some of the things I did or was involved in before the age of 30 whilst funny stories for the pub would massively rule me out from any sort of public office, and I'd imagine I wasn't the only idiot growing up

flaggETERNAL wrote:This insistenc e on people today getting offended over shit people did years, even decades ago is nuts. It was nuts when it happened to Kav and it's nuts now. Wonder if it would be possible for the person in question to just come out saying sorry and just admit they were ignorant back then and that they've since learned and changed. Wonder if that would do anything or are people just so eager for offence these days?

Have you been following the Liam Neeson saga?

I agree with you btw.

saffer13 wrote:

houtkabouter wrote:

saffer13 wrote:

houtkabouter wrote:A background check is not an investigation Saffer, I’ve been through multiple background checks to get my clearance.

They my are typically forms you fill in yourself, the discovery has a finite point.

Of the 10+ I’ve been through only one was extensive but never extensive enough to be considered and investigation of any type because you don’t have authority to extend.

It’s one of the reasons Muellers INVESTIGATION is taking so long because investigating is discovery process background check are a checking process.

Kavanaughs “investigation” was a joke. It shouldn’t even be called an investigation. It’s was a series of interviews with his friends.

I thought Republicans weren't allowed to be investigated though? Especially those in power....like the President.

I'm aware that background checks are not the same, that's why I added the word "and" before investigations

What other investigation bar the timeboxed investigation are your referring to?

First, you said nobody was allowed to interview the top Repubs...care to say you were lying?
As for the investigation, let's be real for a second...it really doesn't matter what kind of investigation there was, you would have found a flaw. I'm sure if the now over 2-year investigation into the guy that's apparently not allowed to be investigated comes up with no Russian collusion, as has been suggested it will, it will either be due to obstructionism or an issue with the investigation and then we'll suddenly move on to the next investigation. Bottom line is, there is an absolute need from some to find something, anything...their hate is so strong.

I’ve told you 3 times now that Kavanaughs “investigation” was a joke. It had a limited scope, limited time which was a constraint applied by a republican government. That equates to not allowing republicans to be investigated.

Never mind the fact that Nunes made a mockery of the intelligence committee process or that your orange bullfrog has been threatening witnesses and bullying anyone he can when it comes to investigations into him.

Kavanaughs green lighting was a pathetic attempt at appeasement.

I’ll be happy with the outcome of a proper investigation, like Muellers inquiry for example.

I think a proper investigation into Fairfax is imperative, I think every similar accusation should be treated with the same proper process, not a special case, limited edition. If he has assaulted her I expect him to go to jail.

What I don’t support is a limited scope “investigation” timeboxed to 5 days.

Hypocrisy is when you expect different treatment for the same or similar offences.

So do you think Fairfax a investigation should have a limited scope and be limited to 5 days like Kavanaugh.

Or do you think he should be investigated properly?

flaggETERNAL wrote:This insistenc e on people today getting offended over shit people did years, even decades ago is nuts. It was nuts when it happened to Kav and it's nuts now. Wonder if it would be possible for the person in question to just come out saying sorry and just admit they were ignorant back then and that they've since learned and changed. Wonder if that would do anything or are people just so eager for offence these days?

Sexual assault should be investigated, regardless of when it happened.

houts, carrying on with your 5-day boxed time theory...do you not think that had there been enough evidence or corroboration to pursue they would have said so and continued the investigation? Same should apply in Fairfax's case..look into it and if there is enough to warrant further investigation, have at it. In his case, we already know something happened, we just have one saying it was consensual and the other saying it was assault.

But again, you said top repubs are not allowed to be investigated and you name Kav and Trump as examples. Kav was put through the ringer, despite what you think wasn't a real investigation and Trump is in the middle of an over 2-year investigation, still ongoing.

houtkabouter wrote:

flaggETERNAL wrote:This insistenc e on people today getting offended over shit people did years, even decades ago is nuts. It was nuts when it happened to Kav and it's nuts now. Wonder if it would be possible for the person in question to just come out saying sorry and just admit they were ignorant back then and that they've since learned and changed. Wonder if that would do anything or are people just so eager for offence these days?

Sexual assault should be investigated, regardless of when it happened.

Is it not just "alleged" until it is proven to be sexual assault?

That being said, I don't think actual sexual assault should have a statute of limitations, I agree.