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Yep, Trump sticking with a perfect phone call, and his legal team saying he's guilty but it doesn't warrant removalFat Old Git wrote:Trump's legal team are an interesting lot.
The main Venn diagram takeaways are impeached Bill Clinton and defended Jeffrey Epstein.Fat Old Git wrote:Trump's legal team are an interesting lot.
Thinly veiled Satan call out.6.Jones wrote:The main Venn diagram takeaways are impeached Bill Clinton and defended Jeffrey Epstein.Fat Old Git wrote:Trump's legal team are an interesting lot.
Is that Santa? I must ask him when he was at Cambridge.puku wrote:Thinly veiled Satan call out.6.Jones wrote:The main Venn diagram takeaways are impeached Bill Clinton and defended Jeffrey Epstein.Fat Old Git wrote:Trump's legal team are an interesting lot.
I think he has already mentioned twice on this thread that he saw the original Venn diagrams when he was a student at Cambridge.
Trump probably forgot that he had called Ken Starr fücking useless in the past.
I'm sure our resident bored Trumpistas will have some kind words for Stiglitz...Even judging by GDP, the Trump economy falls short. Last quarter’s growth was only 2.1%, far less than the 4%, 5% or even 6% Trump promised, and even less than the 2.4% average of Obama’s second term. That is a remarkably poor performance considering the stimulus provided by the $1tn deficit and ultra-low interest rates. This is not an accident or just a matter of bad luck: Trump’s brand is uncertainty, volatility and prevarication, whereas trust, stability, and confidence are essential for growth. So is equality, according to the International Monetary Fund.
So, Trump deserves failing grades not only on essential tasks such as upholding democracy and preserving our planet. He should not get a pass on the economy, either.
That argument would hold more weight if Trump didn't employ his own unqualified children in official US government roles.Backwoodsman1 wrote:So, it started with individuals who monitor media outlets outside the MSM, pointing out inconvenient facts. Now senior Senators going public on the real situation.
'' Senator Rand Paul (R., Ky.) said Thursday that Joe and Hunter #Biden 's activity in Ukraine “goes to the heart of the matter” surrounding the upcoming #Impeachment trial in the Senate, and argued that #GOP senators must be willing to call President Trump’s preferred witnesses, or “all hell is going to break lose.”
Appearing on Hannity, Paul stated that he believed the alleged corruption perpetrated by Hunter Biden in his role on the board of a #Ukrainian gas company Burisma — while his father was overseeing official U.S. relations with Kyiv —needed to be explored.
“If the president is being accused of withholding foreign aid, and his argument is, ‘Well, we were studying corruption, and we wanted to know about corruption in Ukraine,’ and I think the Bidens are as corrupt as the day is long,” Paul argued. “No young man who is the son of a politician gets $50,000 a month who has no experience, working for a Ukrainian oligarch. You know, for goodness sakes — it smells to high heaven. It smells like chttps://www.nationalreview.com/news/rand-paul-s ... &utm_mediu ''
Now Senate Leader Lindsay Graham holes Schiffs cunning plan below the water line.
'' If we call witnesses, we're calling ALL the witnesses.''
Backwoodsman1 wrote:So, it started with individuals who monitor media outlets outside the MSM, pointing out inconvenient facts. Now senior Senators going public on the real situation.
'' Senator Rand Paul (R., Ky.) said Thursday that Joe and Hunter #Biden 's activity in Ukraine “goes to the heart of the matter” surrounding the upcoming #Impeachment trial in the Senate, and argued that #GOP senators must be willing to call President Trump’s preferred witnesses, or “all hell is going to break lose.”
Appearing on Hannity, Paul stated that he believed the alleged corruption perpetrated by Hunter Biden in his role on the board of a #Ukrainian gas company Burisma — while his father was overseeing official U.S. relations with Kyiv —needed to be explored.
“If the president is being accused of withholding foreign aid, and his argument is, ‘Well, we were studying corruption, and we wanted to know about corruption in Ukraine,’ and I think the Bidens are as corrupt as the day is long,” Paul argued. “No young man who is the son of a politician gets $50,000 a month who has no experience, working for a Ukrainian oligarch. You know, for goodness sakes — it smells to high heaven. It smells like chttps://www.nationalreview.com/news/rand-paul-s ... &utm_mediu ''
Now Senate Leader Lindsay Graham holes Schiffs cunning plan below the water line.
'' If we call witnesses, we're calling ALL the witnesses.''
An interesting attempt to get around the problem of polarisation in polling presidential popularity. I'd like to see an independent group poll in that way from 2016 - I wonder how different that might look to current figures.We have worked to develop a hopefully more nuanced approach to measuring presidential approval, where we ask respondents how favorably they feel toward Trump relative to other notable Republicans.
If they want witnesses let them have witnesses6.Jones wrote:Backwoodsman1 wrote:So, it started with individuals who monitor media outlets outside the MSM, pointing out inconvenient facts. Now senior Senators going public on the real situation.
'' Senator Rand Paul (R., Ky.) said Thursday that Joe and Hunter #Biden 's activity in Ukraine “goes to the heart of the matter” surrounding the upcoming #Impeachment trial in the Senate, and argued that #GOP senators must be willing to call President Trump’s preferred witnesses, or “all hell is going to break lose.”
Appearing on Hannity, Paul stated that he believed the alleged corruption perpetrated by Hunter Biden in his role on the board of a #Ukrainian gas company Burisma — while his father was overseeing official U.S. relations with Kyiv —needed to be explored.
“If the president is being accused of withholding foreign aid, and his argument is, ‘Well, we were studying corruption, and we wanted to know about corruption in Ukraine,’ and I think the Bidens are as corrupt as the day is long,” Paul argued. “No young man who is the son of a politician gets $50,000 a month who has no experience, working for a Ukrainian oligarch. You know, for goodness sakes — it smells to high heaven. It smells like chttps://www.nationalreview.com/news/rand-paul-s ... &utm_mediu ''
Now Senate Leader Lindsay Graham holes Schiffs cunning plan below the water line.
'' If we call witnesses, we're calling ALL the witnesses.''
That argument would hold more weight if Trump didn't employ his own unqualified children in official US government roles.
My point was about the propriety of nepotism. Or nepotism by proxy in the case of Pudenda and Biden.piquant wrote:If they want witnesses let them have witnesses6.Jones wrote:Backwoodsman1 wrote:So, it started with individuals who monitor media outlets outside the MSM, pointing out inconvenient facts. Now senior Senators going public on the real situation.
'' Senator Rand Paul (R., Ky.) said Thursday that Joe and Hunter #Biden 's activity in Ukraine “goes to the heart of the matter” surrounding the upcoming #Impeachment trial in the Senate, and argued that #GOP senators must be willing to call President Trump’s preferred witnesses, or “all hell is going to break lose.”
Appearing on Hannity, Paul stated that he believed the alleged corruption perpetrated by Hunter Biden in his role on the board of a #Ukrainian gas company Burisma — while his father was overseeing official U.S. relations with Kyiv —needed to be explored.
“If the president is being accused of withholding foreign aid, and his argument is, ‘Well, we were studying corruption, and we wanted to know about corruption in Ukraine,’ and I think the Bidens are as corrupt as the day is long,” Paul argued. “No young man who is the son of a politician gets $50,000 a month who has no experience, working for a Ukrainian oligarch. You know, for goodness sakes — it smells to high heaven. It smells like chttps://www.nationalreview.com/news/rand-paul-s ... &utm_mediu ''
Now Senate Leader Lindsay Graham holes Schiffs cunning plan below the water line.
'' If we call witnesses, we're calling ALL the witnesses.''
That argument would hold more weight if Trump didn't employ his own unqualified children in official US government roles.
6.Jones wrote: My point was about the propriety of nepotism. Or nepotism by proxy in the case of Pudenda and Biden.
Nunes is telling the truth. Nunes takes random calls from people and I called him and he took mine.piquant wrote:6.Jones wrote: My point was about the propriety of nepotism. Or nepotism by proxy in the case of Pudenda and Biden.
This is the party that has Nunes denying he's met Parnas and saying it'd be very unlikely he's be taking calls from 'random people', but then faced with reality stumbles as far as saying he now recalls he's spoken to him on the phone but doesn't know who he is, and it was a random call in nature (now a random call rather than person) though good enough he told Parnas 'great, just speak to my staff and set it up' whatever it is - presumably he doesn't know how Parnas got his phone number, though I assume it's easy to get the phone number for senior Congressional figures
And not only are the GOP not cross about this they barely think it worth a mention, and certainly not worth a follow up. They're just very weird
No it was him, his wife wasn't thereBokJock wrote:Sure you weren’t speaking to Nunes’ Cow?
What of his mother?Masterji wrote:No it was him, his wife wasn't thereBokJock wrote:Sure you weren’t speaking to Nunes’ Cow?
Exactly.6.Jones wrote:Meh. I'd happily let both sides call whoever they want.
She was too busy having her pussey grabbed by Trumppiquant wrote:What of his mother?Masterji wrote:No it was him, his wife wasn't thereBokJock wrote:Sure you weren’t speaking to Nunes’ Cow?
Hope they go all the way. Call the Bidens, Trump and Bolton too. Should be some fun. And if Biden is exposed, even better for the sake of an healthier democracy.piquant wrote:If they want witnesses let them have witnesses6.Jones wrote:Backwoodsman1 wrote:So, it started with individuals who monitor media outlets outside the MSM, pointing out inconvenient facts. Now senior Senators going public on the real situation.
'' Senator Rand Paul (R., Ky.) said Thursday that Joe and Hunter #Biden 's activity in Ukraine “goes to the heart of the matter” surrounding the upcoming #Impeachment trial in the Senate, and argued that #GOP senators must be willing to call President Trump’s preferred witnesses, or “all hell is going to break lose.”
Appearing on Hannity, Paul stated that he believed the alleged corruption perpetrated by Hunter Biden in his role on the board of a #Ukrainian gas company Burisma — while his father was overseeing official U.S. relations with Kyiv —needed to be explored.
“If the president is being accused of withholding foreign aid, and his argument is, ‘Well, we were studying corruption, and we wanted to know about corruption in Ukraine,’ and I think the Bidens are as corrupt as the day is long,” Paul argued. “No young man who is the son of a politician gets $50,000 a month who has no experience, working for a Ukrainian oligarch. You know, for goodness sakes — it smells to high heaven. It smells like chttps://www.nationalreview.com/news/rand-paul-s ... &utm_mediu ''
Now Senate Leader Lindsay Graham holes Schiffs cunning plan below the water line.
'' If we call witnesses, we're calling ALL the witnesses.''
That argument would hold more weight if Trump didn't employ his own unqualified children in official US government roles.
This.BokJock wrote:If it is gonna be a circus might as well go big. Invite Trey Gowdy back and get some Benghazi/email stuff in there too
Ted. wrote:An interesting Reuters article on the Trump trade wars and specifically his primary mechanism, tariffs.
Charting the trade war Tariffs lead to global slowdown
Actually, no so much an artificial but a load of graphs that are simple enough even for me to grasp some of it.
Step forward Ambassador Faragepiquant wrote:Is Trump essentially appointing lawyers he's seen on TV who're willing to take him as a client? This does look to be the way for the UK to get a good trade deal post Brexit, just get something daft on the telly and he'll lap it up
And put a huge * by that putting things back to the status quo. You can be sure 99.99% of Trump’s base has no idea what was lost when he ripped up the TPP. All the stuff the manufacturing sector should be caring about like fair labor laws in the partner countries etc. This vs the half-arsed deal he made with Japan.Fat Old Git wrote:Ted. wrote:An interesting Reuters article on the Trump trade wars and specifically his primary mechanism, tariffs.
Charting the trade war Tariffs lead to global slowdown
Actually, no so much an artificial but a load of graphs that are simple enough even for me to grasp some of it.
Pffst, who cares about real outcomes when you can return things to the status quo and then claim all the pain was worth it and you've had a huge win.
Absolutely.TheFrog wrote:Hope they go all the way. Call the Bidens, Trump and Bolton too. Should be some fun. And if Biden is exposed, even better for the sake of an healthier democracy.piquant wrote:If they want witnesses let them have witnesses6.Jones wrote:Backwoodsman1 wrote:So, it started with individuals who monitor media outlets outside the MSM, pointing out inconvenient facts. Now senior Senators going public on the real situation.
'' Senator Rand Paul (R., Ky.) said Thursday that Joe and Hunter #Biden 's activity in Ukraine “goes to the heart of the matter” surrounding the upcoming #Impeachment trial in the Senate, and argued that #GOP senators must be willing to call President Trump’s preferred witnesses, or “all hell is going to break lose.”
Appearing on Hannity, Paul stated that he believed the alleged corruption perpetrated by Hunter Biden in his role on the board of a #Ukrainian gas company Burisma — while his father was overseeing official U.S. relations with Kyiv —needed to be explored.
“If the president is being accused of withholding foreign aid, and his argument is, ‘Well, we were studying corruption, and we wanted to know about corruption in Ukraine,’ and I think the Bidens are as corrupt as the day is long,” Paul argued. “No young man who is the son of a politician gets $50,000 a month who has no experience, working for a Ukrainian oligarch. You know, for goodness sakes — it smells to high heaven. It smells like chttps://www.nationalreview.com/news/rand-paul-s ... &utm_mediu ''
Now Senate Leader Lindsay Graham holes Schiffs cunning plan below the water line.
'' If we call witnesses, we're calling ALL the witnesses.''
That argument would hold more weight if Trump didn't employ his own unqualified children in official US government roles.
And eventually it should become apparent to Americans that thy are too.guy smiley wrote:Flockwitt wrote:And put a huge * by that putting things back to the status quo. You can be sure 99.99% of Trump’s base has no idea what was lost when he ripped up the TPP. All the stuff the manufacturing sector should be caring about like fair labor laws in the partner countries etc. This vs the half-arsed deal he made with Japan.Fat Old Git wrote:Ted. wrote:An interesting Reuters article on the Trump trade wars and specifically his primary mechanism, tariffs.
Charting the trade war Tariffs lead to global slowdown
Actually, no so much an artificial but a load of graphs that are simple enough even for me to grasp some of it.
Pffst, who cares about real outcomes when you can return things to the status quo and then claim all the pain was worth it and you've had a huge win.
Domestic status quo... perhaps. World markets are suffering due to Trump.
Really? Not because of anything else but Trump?guy smiley wrote:Flockwitt wrote:And put a huge * by that putting things back to the status quo. You can be sure 99.99% of Trump’s base has no idea what was lost when he ripped up the TPP. All the stuff the manufacturing sector should be caring about like fair labor laws in the partner countries etc. This vs the half-arsed deal he made with Japan.Fat Old Git wrote:Ted. wrote:An interesting Reuters article on the Trump trade wars and specifically his primary mechanism, tariffs.
Charting the trade war Tariffs lead to global slowdown
Actually, no so much an artificial but a load of graphs that are simple enough even for me to grasp some of it.
Pffst, who cares about real outcomes when you can return things to the status quo and then claim all the pain was worth it and you've had a huge win.
Domestic status quo... perhaps. World markets are suffering due to Trump.
That would go a bit Scaramouche in no timeBokJock wrote:Step forward Ambassador Faragepiquant wrote:Is Trump essentially appointing lawyers he's seen on TV who're willing to take him as a client? This does look to be the way for the UK to get a good trade deal post Brexit, just get something daft on the telly and he'll lap it up
Before his third term?Ted. wrote:And eventually it should become apparent to Americans that thy are too.guy smiley wrote:Flockwitt wrote:And put a huge * by that putting things back to the status quo. You can be sure 99.99% of Trump’s base has no idea what was lost when he ripped up the TPP. All the stuff the manufacturing sector should be caring about like fair labor laws in the partner countries etc. This vs the half-arsed deal he made with Japan.Fat Old Git wrote:Ted. wrote:An interesting Reuters article on the Trump trade wars and specifically his primary mechanism, tariffs.
Charting the trade war Tariffs lead to global slowdown
Actually, no so much an artificial but a load of graphs that are simple enough even for me to grasp some of it.
Pffst, who cares about real outcomes when you can return things to the status quo and then claim all the pain was worth it and you've had a huge win.
Domestic status quo... perhaps. World markets are suffering due to Trump.
Yahoo on his inauguration 20/1/17guy smiley wrote:Perhaps it's unfair to blame Trump and his economic policy. Perhaps it's simply a coincidence that the loss of confidence showing in the markets mirrors his presidency.kiwinoz wrote:
Really? Not because of anything else but Trump?
Now the DJI is 29348, S&P500 3329, Nasdaq 9388 and VIX 12.10The Dow Jones Industrial Average (DJI) declined 0.4%, to close at 19,732.40. The S&P 500 also decreased 0.4% to close at 2,263.69. The tech-laden Nasdaq Composite Index closed at 5,540.08, losing 0.3%. The fear-gauge CBOE Volatility Index (VIX) increased 2.4% to settle at 12.78.
Correct. I don't think [Joe] Biden's corrupt. I'm sure [Hunter] is but there's no evidence of it rising to the level of illegality. Law enforcement would've found something by now if it did. I'm sure William Barr is polishing his crucifix over effigies of the Bidens as we speak, getting Jebus on the case, leaving no altar boy unturned. But if they are then the Mercans need to know.TheFrog wrote:Hope they go all the way. Call the Bidens, Trump and Bolton too. Should be some fun. And if Biden is exposed, even better for the sake of an healthier democracy.
Presumably because some people want him to run the country and another group of people want him in prison.BokJock wrote:In what context?