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piquant wrote:

6.Jones wrote: My point was about the propriety of nepotism. Or nepotism by proxy in the case of Pudenda and Biden.

This is the party that has Nunes denying he's met Parnas and saying it'd be very unlikely he's be taking calls from 'random people', but then faced with reality stumbles as far as saying he now recalls he's spoken to him on the phone but doesn't know who he is, and it was a random call in nature (now a random call rather than person) though good enough he told Parnas 'great, just speak to my staff and set it up' whatever it is - presumably he doesn't know how Parnas got his phone number, though I assume it's easy to get the phone number for senior Congressional figures

And not only are the GOP not cross about this they barely think it worth a mention, and certainly not worth a follow up. They're just very weird

BokJock wrote:Sure you weren’t speaking to Nunes’ Cow?

Masterji wrote:

BokJock wrote:Sure you weren’t speaking to Nunes’ Cow?

No it was him, his wife wasn't there

6.Jones wrote:Meh. I'd happily let both sides call whoever they want.

piquant wrote:

Masterji wrote:

BokJock wrote:Sure you weren’t speaking to Nunes’ Cow?

No it was him, his wife wasn't there

What of his mother?

piquant wrote:

6.Jones wrote:

Backwoodsman1 wrote:So, it started with individuals who monitor media outlets outside the MSM, pointing out inconvenient facts. Now senior Senators going public on the real situation.

'' Senator Rand Paul (R., Ky.) said Thursday that Joe and Hunter #Biden 's activity in Ukraine “goes to the heart of the matter” surrounding the upcoming #Impeachment trial in the Senate, and argued that #GOP senators must be willing to call President Trump’s preferred witnesses, or “all hell is going to break lose.”

Appearing on Hannity, Paul stated that he believed the alleged corruption perpetrated by Hunter Biden in his role on the board of a #Ukrainian gas company Burisma — while his father was overseeing official U.S. relations with Kyiv —needed to be explored.

“If the president is being accused of withholding foreign aid, and his argument is, ‘Well, we were studying corruption, and we wanted to know about corruption in Ukraine,’ and I think the Bidens are as corrupt as the day is long,” Paul argued. “No young man who is the son of a politician gets $50,000 a month who has no experience, working for a Ukrainian oligarch. You know, for goodness sakes — it smells to high heaven. It smells like chttps://www.nationalreview.com/news/rand-paul-s ... &utm_mediu ''

Now Senate Leader Lindsay Graham holes Schiffs cunning plan below the water line.
'' If we call witnesses, we're calling ALL the witnesses.''

That argument would hold more weight if Trump didn't employ his own unqualified children in official US government roles.

If they want witnesses let them have witnesses

BokJock wrote:If it is gonna be a circus might as well go big. Invite Trey Gowdy back and get some Benghazi/email stuff in there too

Ted. wrote:An interesting Reuters article on the Trump trade wars and specifically his primary mechanism, tariffs.

Charting the trade war Tariffs lead to global slowdown

Actually, no so much an artificial but a load of graphs that are simple enough even for me to grasp some of it.

piquant wrote:Is Trump essentially appointing lawyers he's seen on TV who're willing to take him as a client? This does look to be the way for the UK to get a good trade deal post Brexit, just get something daft on the telly and he'll lap it up

Fat Old Git wrote:

Ted. wrote:An interesting Reuters article on the Trump trade wars and specifically his primary mechanism, tariffs.

Charting the trade war Tariffs lead to global slowdown

Actually, no so much an artificial but a load of graphs that are simple enough even for me to grasp some of it.

Pffst, who cares about real outcomes when you can return things to the status quo and then claim all the pain was worth it and you've had a huge win.

TheFrog wrote:

piquant wrote:

6.Jones wrote:

Backwoodsman1 wrote:So, it started with individuals who monitor media outlets outside the MSM, pointing out inconvenient facts. Now senior Senators going public on the real situation.

'' Senator Rand Paul (R., Ky.) said Thursday that Joe and Hunter #Biden 's activity in Ukraine “goes to the heart of the matter” surrounding the upcoming #Impeachment trial in the Senate, and argued that #GOP senators must be willing to call President Trump’s preferred witnesses, or “all hell is going to break lose.”

Appearing on Hannity, Paul stated that he believed the alleged corruption perpetrated by Hunter Biden in his role on the board of a #Ukrainian gas company Burisma — while his father was overseeing official U.S. relations with Kyiv —needed to be explored.

“If the president is being accused of withholding foreign aid, and his argument is, ‘Well, we were studying corruption, and we wanted to know about corruption in Ukraine,’ and I think the Bidens are as corrupt as the day is long,” Paul argued. “No young man who is the son of a politician gets $50,000 a month who has no experience, working for a Ukrainian oligarch. You know, for goodness sakes — it smells to high heaven. It smells like chttps://www.nationalreview.com/news/rand-paul-s ... &utm_mediu ''

Now Senate Leader Lindsay Graham holes Schiffs cunning plan below the water line.
'' If we call witnesses, we're calling ALL the witnesses.''

That argument would hold more weight if Trump didn't employ his own unqualified children in official US government roles.

If they want witnesses let them have witnesses

Hope they go all the way. Call the Bidens, Trump and Bolton too. Should be some fun. And if Biden is exposed, even better for the sake of an healthier democracy.

guy smiley wrote:

Flockwitt wrote:

Fat Old Git wrote:

Ted. wrote:An interesting Reuters article on the Trump trade wars and specifically his primary mechanism, tariffs.

Charting the trade war Tariffs lead to global slowdown

Actually, no so much an artificial but a load of graphs that are simple enough even for me to grasp some of it.

Pffst, who cares about real outcomes when you can return things to the status quo and then claim all the pain was worth it and you've had a huge win.

And put a huge * by that putting things back to the status quo. You can be sure 99.99% of Trump’s base has no idea what was lost when he ripped up the TPP. All the stuff the manufacturing sector should be caring about like fair labor laws in the partner countries etc. This vs the half-arsed deal he made with Japan.

Domestic status quo... perhaps. World markets are suffering due to Trump.

guy smiley wrote:

Flockwitt wrote:

Fat Old Git wrote:

Ted. wrote:An interesting Reuters article on the Trump trade wars and specifically his primary mechanism, tariffs.

Charting the trade war Tariffs lead to global slowdown

Actually, no so much an artificial but a load of graphs that are simple enough even for me to grasp some of it.

Pffst, who cares about real outcomes when you can return things to the status quo and then claim all the pain was worth it and you've had a huge win.

And put a huge * by that putting things back to the status quo. You can be sure 99.99% of Trump’s base has no idea what was lost when he ripped up the TPP. All the stuff the manufacturing sector should be caring about like fair labor laws in the partner countries etc. This vs the half-arsed deal he made with Japan.

Domestic status quo... perhaps. World markets are suffering due to Trump.

BokJock wrote:

piquant wrote:Is Trump essentially appointing lawyers he's seen on TV who're willing to take him as a client? This does look to be the way for the UK to get a good trade deal post Brexit, just get something daft on the telly and he'll lap it up

Step forward Ambassador Farage

Ted. wrote:

guy smiley wrote:

Flockwitt wrote:

Fat Old Git wrote:

Ted. wrote:An interesting Reuters article on the Trump trade wars and specifically his primary mechanism, tariffs.

Charting the trade war Tariffs lead to global slowdown

Actually, no so much an artificial but a load of graphs that are simple enough even for me to grasp some of it.

Pffst, who cares about real outcomes when you can return things to the status quo and then claim all the pain was worth it and you've had a huge win.

And put a huge * by that putting things back to the status quo. You can be sure 99.99% of Trump’s base has no idea what was lost when he ripped up the TPP. All the stuff the manufacturing sector should be caring about like fair labor laws in the partner countries etc. This vs the half-arsed deal he made with Japan.

Domestic status quo... perhaps. World markets are suffering due to Trump.

And eventually it should become apparent to Americans that thy are too.

guy smiley wrote:

kiwinoz wrote:
Really? Not because of anything else but Trump?

Perhaps it's unfair to blame Trump and his economic policy. Perhaps it's simply a coincidence that the loss of confidence showing in the markets mirrors his presidency.

The Dow Jones Industrial Average (DJI) declined 0.4%, to close at 19,732.40. The S&P 500 also decreased 0.4% to close at 2,263.69. The tech-laden Nasdaq Composite Index closed at 5,540.08, losing 0.3%. The fear-gauge CBOE Volatility Index (VIX) increased 2.4% to settle at 12.78.

TheFrog wrote:Hope they go all the way. Call the Bidens, Trump and Bolton too. Should be some fun. And if Biden is exposed, even better for the sake of an healthier democracy.

BokJock wrote:In what context?

BokJock wrote:In what context?

6.Jones wrote: I don't think [Joe] Biden's corrupt. I'm sure [Hunter] is but there's no evidence of it rising to the level of illegality.

Sandstorm wrote:

6.Jones wrote: I don't think [Joe] Biden's corrupt. I'm sure [Hunter] is but there's no evidence of it rising to the level of illegality.

"Legal corruption". Interesting concept..

Although if I think about it for a sec, it's fine....as long as you're rich.

penguin wrote:succeeded a leader born in Africa?

penguin wrote:Both had 3 wives, governed a country stricken by racism, and they succeeded a leader born in Africa?

Fingers crossed on the jail time...

BokJock wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nb1C98SYKk4

Dershowitz

6.Jones wrote:

BokJock wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nb1C98SYKk4

Dershowitz

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say Trump has something on Dersh. Probably something minor. If you know what I mean.

BokJock wrote:

6.Jones wrote:

BokJock wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nb1C98SYKk4

Dershowitz

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say Trump has something on Dersh. Probably something minor. If you know what I mean.

He certainly is massaging the truth somewhat

6.Jones wrote:

penguin wrote:succeeded a leader born in Africa?

6.Jones wrote:

BokJock wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nb1C98SYKk4

Dershowitz

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say Trump has something on Dersh. Probably something minor. If you know what I mean.