Re: POTUS-DONALD TRUMP-and U.S. Politics catch-all
Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2020 8:45 am
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The truth emerges. Slightly damp from its brisk morning swim in the ocean, but true nonetheless.Giuliani Suggests Marie Yovanovitch Unlawfully Surveilled Him, Sean Hannity, and Trump Jr.
Rudy Giuliani on Monday suggested that former U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine Marie Yovanovitch unlawfully spied on him and several other prominent Republicans, expressing outrage that she is not under investigation. Giuliani provided no evidence to support his claim, the latest in a growing list of baseless accusations to originate from the president’s personal attorney.
Giuliani appeared on Fox News’s The Ingraham Angle to combat allegations and evidence provided by his former business partner Lev Parnas which further implicated Giuliani in the coordinated campaign to oust Yovanovitch from her post, which may have included unlawful surveillance of the former diplomat.
“The other allegation was that you directed the surveillance of a sitting U.S. ambassador, Marie Yovanovitch, in Ukraine,” host Laura Ingraham said. “No, I did not. No, I can definitely tell you I didn’t. In fact, she directed the surveillance of me – which nobody’s investigating – and of Mr. [John] Solomon and of your colleague Sean Hannity and of Donald Trump Jr.”
His Judicial record speaks for itselfhoutkabouter wrote:The man had to tattoo his name on himself so he remembers who is. He was always going to vote for Trump, he’s the demographic.Seneca of the Night wrote:One wonders why we've been lumped with the Irish we've got on here when we could have got this fine gentleman of impeccable taste and discernment: https://www.mediaite.com/politics/ufc-s ... ng-giants/
Nowt wrong with being born again per se - but if he is an evolution denier then I have been wrong in my estimation of him...but I reserve my judgement as I have not seen evidence of this.Rinkals wrote:I thought he was a born-again, Darwin-denying evangelist? As a teacher in the US of A, he's found his niche.BokJock wrote:He is neither, in all his other posting he comes across as completely sane and reasonable.Masterji wrote:Just a right wing nationalist or a right wing white nationalist?sorCrer wrote:Saffer is a right wing nationalist.
Does Trump know Parnas or not?
This Trump thing he does must be a troll
Another example of the "no you are!" defence.6.Jones wrote:The truth emerges. Slightly damp from its brisk morning swim in the ocean, but true nonetheless.Giuliani Suggests Marie Yovanovitch Unlawfully Surveilled Him, Sean Hannity, and Trump Jr.
Rudy Giuliani on Monday suggested that former U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine Marie Yovanovitch unlawfully spied on him and several other prominent Republicans, expressing outrage that she is not under investigation. Giuliani provided no evidence to support his claim, the latest in a growing list of baseless accusations to originate from the president’s personal attorney.
Giuliani appeared on Fox News’s The Ingraham Angle to combat allegations and evidence provided by his former business partner Lev Parnas which further implicated Giuliani in the coordinated campaign to oust Yovanovitch from her post, which may have included unlawful surveillance of the former diplomat.
“The other allegation was that you directed the surveillance of a sitting U.S. ambassador, Marie Yovanovitch, in Ukraine,” host Laura Ingraham said. “No, I did not. No, I can definitely tell you I didn’t. In fact, she directed the surveillance of me – which nobody’s investigating – and of Mr. [John] Solomon and of your colleague Sean Hannity and of Donald Trump Jr.”
He probably doesn't deny Darwin. I mean I don't deny there could well have been a Jesus, I'd just deny there's a god he could have been the son of, so if he claimed to be the son of god he was just a wackadoodle.Rinkals wrote:
I thought he was a born-again, Darwin-denying evangelist? As a teacher in the US of A, he's found his niche.
If you can get booze in there he'll barely know the differencehoutkabouter wrote:I think Rudi is going to hate prison.
Backwoodsman1 wrote:https://nypost.com/2020/01/18/how-five- ... nnections/
Book Bombshell: James Biden’s Firm Got $1.5 Billion in Government Contracts Despite Zero Experience
Breitbart
'' If we call one witness, we call all the witnesses.'' Senate Leader.
Another 'cunning plan' by inept Dems goes tits up , .. meanwhile Schiff's closeness to Ed Buck , his donor with the dead rent boys in his apartment , now increasingly openly discussed on social meja !
No he doesn't.BokJock wrote:He is neither, in all his other posting he comes across as completely sane and reasonable.Masterji wrote:Just a right wing nationalist or a right wing white nationalist?sorCrer wrote:Saffer is a right wing nationalist.
Does Trump know Parnas or not?
This Trump thing he does must be a troll
I have never seen him mention creationism but you are the 2nd or 3rd poster to say he is a creationist weirdo - he is an educator of young people, hopefully he seperates his wacky beliefs from the proper stuff he is supposed to be teaching them.RuggaBugga wrote:No he doesn't.BokJock wrote:He is neither, in all his other posting he comes across as completely sane and reasonable.Masterji wrote:Just a right wing nationalist or a right wing white nationalist?sorCrer wrote:Saffer is a right wing nationalist.
Does Trump know Parnas or not?
This Trump thing he does must be a troll
He's a creationist ffs. Being a blinkered moron is obviously a specialty.
This would be Hill International, one of the world's largest construction EPCMs?Backwoodsman1 wrote:https://nypost.com/2020/01/18/how-five- ... nnections/
Book Bombshell: James Biden’s Firm Got $1.5 Billion in Government Contracts Despite Zero Experience
Breitbart
'' If we call one witness, we call all the witnesses.'' Senate Leader.
Another 'cunning plan' by inept Dems goes tits up , .. meanwhile Schiff's closeness to Ed Buck , his donor with the dead rent boys in his apartment , now increasingly openly discussed on social meja !
If people want to discuss dead rent boys who are we to say they shouldn't be allowed to pursue their interests online?BokJock wrote:Backwoodsman1 wrote:https://nypost.com/2020/01/18/how-five- ... nnections/
Book Bombshell: James Biden’s Firm Got $1.5 Billion in Government Contracts Despite Zero Experience
Breitbart
'' If we call one witness, we call all the witnesses.'' Senate Leader.
Another 'cunning plan' by inept Dems goes tits up , .. meanwhile Schiff's closeness to Ed Buck , his donor with the dead rent boys in his apartment , now increasingly openly discussed on social meja !
Did you read the article?Backwoodsman1 wrote:https://nypost.com/2020/01/18/how-five- ... nnections/
Book Bombshell: James Biden’s Firm Got $1.5 Billion in Government Contracts Despite Zero Experience
Breitbart
'' If we call one witness, we call all the witnesses.'' Senate Leader.
Another 'cunning plan' by inept Dems goes tits up , .. meanwhile Schiff's closeness to Ed Buck , his donor with the dead rent boys in his apartment , now increasingly openly discussed on social meja !
If this poll is accurate, this is Pelosi winning her battle. She was right to hold onto the article of impeachment until new information surfaced and the public would turn its attention again to Trump.Rinkals wrote:According to a CNN poll (yes, I know, the "fake news" organisation) almost 70% of Americans support new witnesses being allowed to testify.Rugby2023 wrote:Convincing them is even necessary? Outside the usual obsessive bubbles, I highly doubt it.TheFrog wrote:Or will the Reps convince the people that this is a waste of everybody's time and energy and that on the basis that abuse of power isn't impeachable then there is no need for a trial?
Obviously, Saffer13 is not among them.
are you a creationist?saffer13 wrote:You lot are losing it. I'm flattered that you're all so concerned that I've taken up about half your posts on the last two pages
The US system has managed to legalise corruption at so many turns its astonishing. Whether Moscow Mitch loses I don't know, he's hugely unpopular for many reasons, but it is Kentucky, and he is a RepublicanRinkals wrote:It does strike me that McConnel's seat would particularly vulnerable.
For, not only is he driving the efforts to derail the holding of the President to account, but his Chinese wife is knee-deep in corruption involving her father's shipping business and her position as Secretary of Transportation.
According to Wiki, his approval ratings are pretty much "underwater"
There is some genuine derangement here. Why are saffers here so obsessed with US politics?saffer13 wrote:You lot are losing it. I'm flattered that you're all so concerned that I've taken up about half your posts on the last two pages
rinkidink, BJ, and houts...who knows. I am a South African American now so....Lemoentjie wrote:There is some genuine derangement here. Why are saffers here so obsessed with US politics?saffer13 wrote:You lot are losing it. I'm flattered that you're all so concerned that I've taken up about half your posts on the last two pages
Yeah, wasn't aimed at you. More at those who are on the outside shouting insaffer13 wrote:rinkidink, BJ, and houts...who knows. I am a South African American now so....Lemoentjie wrote:There is some genuine derangement here. Why are saffers here so obsessed with US politics?saffer13 wrote:You lot are losing it. I'm flattered that you're all so concerned that I've taken up about half your posts on the last two pages
TBF there are Kiwis, Englishmen and Irish too.Lemoentjie wrote:Yeah, wasn't aimed at you. More at those who are on the outside shouting insaffer13 wrote:rinkidink, BJ, and houts...who knows. I am a South African American now so....Lemoentjie wrote:There is some genuine derangement here. Why are saffers here so obsessed with US politics?saffer13 wrote:You lot are losing it. I'm flattered that you're all so concerned that I've taken up about half your posts on the last two pages
With the world's largest economy, any grownup not interested in US politics is a blithering idiot.Lemoentjie wrote:There is some genuine derangement here. Why are saffers here so obsessed with US politics?saffer13 wrote:You lot are losing it. I'm flattered that you're all so concerned that I've taken up about half your posts on the last two pages
Interested or not. Blithering idiots abound.sorCrer wrote:With the world's largest economy, any grownup not interested in US politics is a blithering idiot.Lemoentjie wrote:There is some genuine derangement here. Why are saffers here so obsessed with US politics?saffer13 wrote:You lot are losing it. I'm flattered that you're all so concerned that I've taken up about half your posts on the last two pages
You should see him when he is ridding his dino about.saffer13 wrote:Interested or not. Blithering idiots abound.sorCrer wrote:With the world's largest economy, any grownup not interested in US politics is a blithering idiot.Lemoentjie wrote:There is some genuine derangement here. Why are saffers here so obsessed with US politics?saffer13 wrote:You lot are losing it. I'm flattered that you're all so concerned that I've taken up about half your posts on the last two pages
Yes, threatening implosion of both camps to keep the Dems in check. Obviously, the Republicans are admitting that calling witnesses would leave Trump in a very weak position. Their only argument is to threaten back.Backwoodsman1 wrote:https://nypost.com/2020/01/18/how-five- ... nnections/
Book Bombshell: James Biden’s Firm Got $1.5 Billion in Government Contracts Despite Zero Experience
Breitbart
'' If we call one witness, we call all the witnesses.'' Senate Leader.
Another 'cunning plan' by inept Dems goes tits up , .. meanwhile Schiff's closeness to Ed Buck , his donor with the dead rent boys in his apartment , now increasingly openly discussed on social meja !
I haven't read the whole article, but this assumes wrongly that criminal trials and political trials follow the same rules.Rinkals wrote:Here's a very strong argument against impeachment.
That would be credible if the main topic of this thread was the discussion of the US economy and how that relates to the Trump presidency.sorCrer wrote:With the world's largest economy, any grownup not interested in US politics is a blithering idiot.Lemoentjie wrote:There is some genuine derangement here. Why are saffers here so obsessed with US politics?saffer13 wrote:You lot are losing it. I'm flattered that you're all so concerned that I've taken up about half your posts on the last two pages
Yes indeed- except our Trump character is too over the top for most soap operasLemoentjie wrote:That would be credible if the main topic of this thread was the discussion of the US economy and how that relates to the Trump presidency.sorCrer wrote:With the world's largest economy, any grownup not interested in US politics is a blithering idiot.Lemoentjie wrote:There is some genuine derangement here. Why are saffers here so obsessed with US politics?saffer13 wrote:You lot are losing it. I'm flattered that you're all so concerned that I've taken up about half your posts on the last two pages
The tedious kak that get's talked about here is simply soap opera. The gossip, the drama, the twists. Just a male acceptable form of Huisgenoot.
The background remains whether a man as unfit as Trump to rule the most powerful country in the world, will remain in power or not.Lemoentjie wrote:That would be credible if the main topic of this thread was the discussion of the US economy and how that relates to the Trump presidency.sorCrer wrote:With the world's largest economy, any grownup not interested in US politics is a blithering idiot.Lemoentjie wrote:There is some genuine derangement here. Why are saffers here so obsessed with US politics?saffer13 wrote:You lot are losing it. I'm flattered that you're all so concerned that I've taken up about half your posts on the last two pages
The tedious kak that get's talked about here is simply soap opera. The gossip, the drama, the twists. Just a male acceptable form of Huisgenoot.
I'm going out on a limb to suggest the Dems didn't and don't want to carry out terrorist attacks of any size or frequency against the USAWilson's Toffee wrote:If the Dems had their way, they would have bombed the White House on a daily basis umtill The Don quit.
Guess they wish...
Not true - I saw a photo of Chuck and Nancy in full on Muslim gear, they were posing in front of the Iranian flag and everythingpiquant wrote:I'm going out on a limb to suggest the Dems didn't and don't want to carry out terrorist attacks of any size or frequency against the USAWilson's Toffee wrote:If the Dems had their way, they would have bombed the White House on a daily basis umtill The Don quit.
Guess they wish...
BokJock wrote:Not true - I saw a photo of Chuck and Nancy in full on Muslim gear, they were posing in front of the Iranian flag and everythingpiquant wrote:I'm going out on a limb to suggest the Dems didn't and don't want to carry out terrorist attacks of any size or frequency against the USAWilson's Toffee wrote:If the Dems had their way, they would have bombed the White House on a daily basis umtill The Don quit.
Guess they wish...
Which one? 'cause if it's FDR then Trump might appreciate a partial bombing that puts him in a wheelchair and saves him having to stand and walk given how crap he is at standing and walking.EverReady wrote:Liar. They wanted to bomb him and humiliate him all because he had the temerity to become the greatest leader the US has known since Roosevelt
Don't sell him short; he claimed he was the greatest since Lincoln !EverReady wrote:Liar. They wanted to bomb him and humiliate him all because he had the temerity to become the greatest leader the US has known since Roosevelt
The odd thing is that Trump is quite popular among the white population here.Lemoentjie wrote:There is some genuine derangement here. Why are saffers here so obsessed with US politics?saffer13 wrote:You lot are losing it. I'm flattered that you're all so concerned that I've taken up about half your posts on the last two pages