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UncleFB wrote: When did you go off the reservation so completely bill? You used to be quite normal on the NZ thread.

So, these facts, have you got any that show that this drug you're fluffing has been proven to "save lives" as you claimed in an earlier post. Even the link you posted about the American Thoracic Society barely supports your position, they say there's no evidence it works but they think that it's worth "experimenting with in a public health crisis".

Pretty easy to spot when they start going down the Fox News rabbit hole.

Quite often it's older men with more time on their hands.

BillW wrote:

When did you go off the reservation so completely bill? You used to be quite normal on the NZ thread.

So, these facts, have you got any that show that this drug you're fluffing has been proven to "save lives" as you claimed in an earlier post. Even the link you posted about the American Thoracic Society barely supports your position, they say there's no evidence it works but they think that it's worth "experimenting with in a public health crisis".

I've never claimed proof that they worked only that doctors were using it extensively throughout the world and lots were claiming success.

Given that there is no medical treatment that has a label recommending use for combating Covid 19, it follows that virtually all treatments so far used are experimental and doctors are relying on the anecdotal evidence of others to formulate remedies.

Only a bunch of retards would ban the use of one of these treatments merely because Trump was hopeful that it would work.

This is what you wrote:

Doctors all over the globe are administering it.
And it's saving lives.

There's a whole bunch of people on this thread saying hey it will be cool if this works, but we just don't know yet and hopefully clinical trials will show it does, and then there's you flapping around (with the odd Trump can do know wrong poster in support) and claiming that anyone who disagrees with you or asks your for more information has TDS.

RuggaBugga wrote:

UncleFB wrote: When did you go off the reservation so completely bill? You used to be quite normal on the NZ thread.

So, these facts, have you got any that show that this drug you're fluffing has been proven to "save lives" as you claimed in an earlier post. Even the link you posted about the American Thoracic Society barely supports your position, they say there's no evidence it works but they think that it's worth "experimenting with in a public health crisis".

Pretty easy to spot when they start going down the Fox News rabbit hole.

Quite often it's older men with more time on their hands.

UncleFB wrote:

RuggaBugga wrote:

UncleFB wrote: When did you go off the reservation so completely bill? You used to be quite normal on the NZ thread.

So, these facts, have you got any that show that this drug you're fluffing has been proven to "save lives" as you claimed in an earlier post. Even the link you posted about the American Thoracic Society barely supports your position, they say there's no evidence it works but they think that it's worth "experimenting with in a public health crisis".

Pretty easy to spot when they start going down the Fox News rabbit hole.

Quite often it's older men with more time on their hands.

If blaming the messenger can stabilise the cognitive dis-equilibrium that you are experiencing at this time of the lunar cycle, I say go for it fellas.

AnkleTap wrote:I do not know Ali. We make chess jokes at Trumps expense, calling him a 4D chess master, all very tongue in cheek. If you play chess for any time you realise that unless you spend a significant percentage of you attention on what you opponent is thinking you will probably fail. So, as far as I can tell, the intelligent half is reeling from loss after loss in this fight. Why can they not form a strategy? They have near total media domination and the social media companies largely made by them and they get to make the rules.

Why do they keep come second to the thick?

FOG, assume that is true, an intelligent group might try and form a strategy. I see the strategy as being to label the right as racist or dumb, whilst sticking up a candidate suffering from dementia.

The only thing that makes sense is they are trying to fail.

AnkleTap wrote:FOG, assume that is true, an intelligent group might try and form a strategy. I see the strategy as being to label the right as racist or dumb, whilst sticking up a candidate suffering from dementia.

The only thing that makes sense is they are trying to fail.

and let's face it, they've had plenty of practice.

Kayleigh MacEneny is the new press secretary.

fudge me

Fat Old Git wrote:

AnkleTap wrote:I do not know Ali. We make chess jokes at Trumps expense, calling him a 4D chess master, all very tongue in cheek. If you play chess for any time you realise that unless you spend a significant percentage of you attention on what you opponent is thinking you will probably fail. So, as far as I can tell, the intelligent half is reeling from loss after loss in this fight. Why can they not form a strategy? They have near total media domination and the social media companies largely made by them and they get to make the rules.

Why do they keep come second to the thick?

It is not doubt but certainty that drives you mad.

The f**king margins! Wrong login HongKong.

Short Man Syndrome wrote:TDS is a nice bit of deflection. The reality is that it is weirder that people are NOT upset by having such an ignorant narcissist in charge of the US, doing as much damage as he is. Trump Supporter Psychosis should be a 'thing' - one suffered by fools, gladly it seems.

Yes.

Though surely, TDS could as equally apply to them.

TheFrog wrote:

Fat Old Git wrote:

AnkleTap wrote:I do not know Ali. We make chess jokes at Trumps expense, calling him a 4D chess master, all very tongue in cheek. If you play chess for any time you realise that unless you spend a significant percentage of you attention on what you opponent is thinking you will probably fail. So, as far as I can tell, the intelligent half is reeling from loss after loss in this fight. Why can they not form a strategy? They have near total media domination and the social media companies largely made by them and they get to make the rules.

Why do they keep come second to the thick?

It is not doubt but certainty that drives you mad.

There's nothing wrong with that on my screen, TF.

Fat Old Git wrote:

AnkleTap wrote:I do not know Ali. We make chess jokes at Trumps expense, calling him a 4D chess master, all very tongue in cheek. If you play chess for any time you realise that unless you spend a significant percentage of you attention on what you opponent is thinking you will probably fail. So, as far as I can tell, the intelligent half is reeling from loss after loss in this fight. Why can they not form a strategy? They have near total media domination and the social media companies largely made by them and they get to make the rules.

Why do they keep come second to the thick?

I must be intelligent.
I doubt that those words are true.

and just like that Fat old Git disappears in a cloud of logic.

AnkleTap wrote: and just like that Fat old Git disappears in a cloud of logic.

As do you.

AnkleTap wrote: and just like that Fat old Git disappears in a cloud of logic.

You sound quite confident of that, but I have my doubts.

BillW wrote:

Fat Old Git wrote:

AnkleTap wrote:I do not know Ali. We make chess jokes at Trumps expense, calling him a 4D chess master, all very tongue in cheek. If you play chess for any time you realise that unless you spend a significant percentage of you attention on what you opponent is thinking you will probably fail. So, as far as I can tell, the intelligent half is reeling from loss after loss in this fight. Why can they not form a strategy? They have near total media domination and the social media companies largely made by them and they get to make the rules.

Why do they keep come second to the thick?

I must be intelligent.
I doubt that those words are true.

The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.

Believe it.

Zico wrote:

fonzeee wrote: In any case, Trump has undoubtedly, unwittingly or otherwise, smoked out some nasty players and, through the sheer repulsiveness of his nature to those who never quite got over the swirlie they got in seventh grade, exposed the limitations of many who have miraculously, unbelievably, gotten within arms reach of the levers of power. He is essentially Washington's enema (lame joke incoming), and his presidency has taught us a lot about how the establishment and especially its media compatriots operate.

Being a pragmatist, I don't care how much of this is intentional.

f**king idiot.

Can't say I expect much more from you.

Look, if you can't see the sheer mass of blood, sweat, and tears that have been expended in the past three and half years on utter nonsense from the self-styled "sane party" and its media, at the expense of literally anything productive, nothing I say will change your mind. Eight years of whining about how the big mean GOP couldn't just let St. Barry run everything the way he wanted (as if he could organize a handjob in a whorehouse...nice speeches though), only to unleash upon us a deluge of bullshit that made the reactionary Tea Party conniption look like a literal tea party in comparison. It has been utterly f**king unbearable. More importantly, it has caused American politics and political discourse to essentially grind to a halt. And this is from the party whose whole shtick is that they care about you.

Anyone who wants can look back at my post history; I actually held my nose and voted for Hillary because even though she's useless at best and fairly crooked at worst, at least the "good guy" blue-ties would control the executive and hopefully, just maybe, we could at least get the ball rolling on some domestic stuff that needs doing and at that point was still more likely to come from the left (although it's not clear why I thought a third consecutive Democratic presidential term would be different). And granted, I was only 16 when Obama got in, but I'll admit I huffed all that HOPE and CHANGE bullshit too. I ain't proud, but it is what it is.

You realize that for all of the bitching about Trump, some Chinese peasant who chucked a pangolin into his chow mein caused immeasurable magnitudes more damage to Americans' daily lives than your beloved "shitgibbon". In fact, brace yourself for this, but it turns out life under Trump is not terribly different than life under Obama. Problem is, I was told one would usher in the Age of Aquarius, and the other would lead to the apocalypse. Funny that. But at least now it's there for all to see, if you're willing and, what was the term you used to describe your Trump-hating American friends...broad-minded?

And yet, do you think we'll hear 1/10th as much ire directed towards China from the media and Democrats as we've heard directed towards our own president over the past few years? Fat f**king chance. And that should tell you something.

BillW wrote:

Anonymous. wrote:If only there was a treatment available that could stop all these thousands of people around the world dying every day from this Covid-19

Eventually there probably will be.
But meanwhile??

BillW wrote:Doctors all over the globe are administering it.
And it's saving lives.

Seneca of the Night wrote:That is my take, observing your great country from the outside in. I find it astonishing just how much many American elites seem to despise the great mass of their own countrymen. That is not a good sign.

Thing is, there's more than enough different about conservative white America for them to hate, but the way our (upper-middle-class-and-up American) brains work, a key similarity there that permits hatred that would otherwise be tempered by taboos against racism, xenophobia, etc.

The aftermath of the 2016 election was interesting. I had a pretty right-on professor who came dangerously close to the no-fly zone when he lamented in class that "the African-American community still has problems with sexism and won't vote for a female president."

Which, I mean, is true. But sexism is very bad. Being a sexist makes you a bad person. But the black community is rife with sexism. Would that mean thaaf dfuiw3 sad@#fds **BOOM**

fonzeee wrote:

Seneca of the Night wrote:That is my take, observing your great country from the outside in. I find it astonishing just how much many American elites seem to despise the great mass of their own countrymen. That is not a good sign.

Thing is, there's more than enough different about conservative white America for them to hate, but the way our (upper-middle-class-and-up American) brains work, a key similarity there that permits hatred that would otherwise be tempered by taboos against racism, xenophobia, etc.

The aftermath of the 2016 election was interesting. I had a pretty right-on professor who came dangerously close to the no-fly zone when he lamented in class that "the African-American community still has problems with sexism and won't vote for a female president."

Which, I mean, is true. But sexism is very bad. Being a sexist makes you a bad person. But the black community is rife with sexism. Would that mean thaaf dfuiw3 sad@#fds **BOOM**

Yeah only 88% of black voters chose the female candidate

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... s-briefing

Lets see how his supporters put their usual spin on his threat and then his lie.


He is a piece of shit.

The behavior of a South African Trump supporter...................

https://www.iol.co.za/capetimes/news/i- ... s-46425256

Seneca of the Night wrote:

UncleFB wrote:

RuggaBugga wrote:

UncleFB wrote: When did you go off the reservation so completely bill? You used to be quite normal on the NZ thread.

So, these facts, have you got any that show that this drug you're fluffing has been proven to "save lives" as you claimed in an earlier post. Even the link you posted about the American Thoracic Society barely supports your position, they say there's no evidence it works but they think that it's worth "experimenting with in a public health crisis".

Pretty easy to spot when they start going down the Fox News rabbit hole.

Quite often it's older men with more time on their hands.

It's how they control you. They keep you too busy to have the time to understand what is really going on. It's why the "experts" keep getting side swiped by events. They're (expert's not 'them') too busy in this frantic age to see what is coming down the pipe.

I blame the education system.
A lot of these posters claim to be university graduates.
I left school when I was fourteen years old so there's every chance there's something I'm missing, but most appear to be appallingly ignorant to me.

“One of the painful signs of years of dumbed-down education is how many people are unable to make a coherent argument. They can vent their emotions, question other people’s motives, make bold assertions, repeat slogans—anything except reason.”

Thomas Sowell

BillW wrote:

Seneca of the Night wrote:

UncleFB wrote:

RuggaBugga wrote:

UncleFB wrote: When did you go off the reservation so completely bill? You used to be quite normal on the NZ thread.

So, these facts, have you got any that show that this drug you're fluffing has been proven to "save lives" as you claimed in an earlier post. Even the link you posted about the American Thoracic Society barely supports your position, they say there's no evidence it works but they think that it's worth "experimenting with in a public health crisis".

Pretty easy to spot when they start going down the Fox News rabbit hole.

Quite often it's older men with more time on their hands.

It's how they control you. They keep you too busy to have the time to understand what is really going on. It's why the "experts" keep getting side swiped by events. They're (expert's not 'them') too busy in this frantic age to see what is coming down the pipe.

I blame the education system.
A lot of these posters claim to be university graduates.
I left school when I was fourteen years old so there's every chance there's something I'm missing, but most appear to be appallingly ignorant to me.

“One of the painful signs of years of dumbed-down education is how many people are unable to make a coherent argument. They can vent their emotions, question other people’s motives, make bold assertions, repeat slogans—anything except reason.”

Thomas Sowell

Surely not!

BillW wrote:I left school when I was fourteen years old so there's every chance there's something I'm missing

It's called self awareness.

BillW wrote:It's called self awareness.

Admitting you have a problem is the first step to solving it, and we applaud you for this brave start to your journey.

A Texas woman who mocked the coronavirus pandemic on Facebook as a media hoax has died from COVID-19 two weeks later.

The pandemic is “controlled” by “radical people in powerful places,” Karen Kolbe Sehlke posted. She also added that “cross stitching accidents” have “probably” killed more people than the virus that’s killing thousands of people worldwide.


“With deep sadness and Broken Hearts we share with you that Karen Kolb Sehlke, a loving wife, mother, daughter, sister, and friend to all that knew her, went to be with our Lord when she passed away unexpectedly Thursday, April 2, 2020,” her friends wrote in a GoFundMe appeal to cover her burial costs.

“Karen became very sick and was admitted to the hospital near her home in Tomball Tx earlier this week. She fought hard until her body just could not fight anymore. Karen was a BRIGHT LIGHT, the LIFE of the party, an amazing friend, but above this a hands on, caring, loving mom and devoted wife.”

Sehlke was a Donald Trump supporter who bought into the GOP messaging that the pandemic was being politicized and overblown in an effort to hurt the president’s re-election chances.

“If you think for one second this ‘pandemic’ is not media driven, and controlled by the radical people in powerful places… well… go back to sleep under the rock you crawled out from,” she wrote. “Wake up!!! This is what the beginning of socialism looks like!”

“They are crashing the stock market to run on a failing economy, because it’s all they have left,” she added.

“You don’t need hand sanitizer, toilet paper, and Lysol. You need common sense, a sense of direction, faith, a will to fight, and of course guns!”

After news of her death spread, the family edited their GoFundMe to remove that she died from COVID-19 and instead said the details of how she died are not public. They noted that her family is in quarantine and people can deliver them food – if they leave it outside the home to prevent the further potential spread of the disease. They’re providing hand sanitizer wipes outside for anyone who delivers food.

The passage asking for food was removed along with the acknowledgement that Sehlke had died from the virus she’d just mocked. There was no update on the health of her husband and two sons.

Just need Jesus and guns. Dumb fucks.

The eductation system is for the most part a sausage factory and systemic brain washing machine.

However, what I am really talking about can be best seen in the book and film 'The Big Short'. All the professionals in the investment banks and pension funds are running hither and thither all day answering emails, attending meetings, filling in diversity and inclusion surveys and anti money laundering courses etc in between trying to balance a family life and they had no chance seeing what was going on.

It was guys sitting in small offices by themselves without the constant distractions who had the time to slow down, take a deep breath, and lift the hood and have a real good look around who were able to see what was really going on. There are many such examples coming at us now thick and fast. The expert, the professionals, are all f**king hopeless. They are wrong time and time again.

Something like I've been trying to get across re Chloroquine and Covid 19.

There's a hurricane coming in fast.

Trump: "Grab a hammer and nails and bung those sheets of ply over the windows"

Democrats: "You can't do that you haven't got a permit, that ply might be the wrong grade. blah blah."

Too much of what is called education is little more than an expensive isolation from reality.
Thomas Sowell

BillW wrote:

The eductation system is for the most part a sausage factory and systemic brain washing machine.

However, what I am really talking about can be best seen in the book and film 'The Big Short'. All the professionals in the investment banks and pension funds are running hither and thither all day answering emails, attending meetings, filling in diversity and inclusion surveys and anti money laundering courses etc in between trying to balance a family life and they had no chance seeing what was going on.

It was guys sitting in small offices by themselves without the constant distractions who had the time to slow down, take a deep breath, and lift the hood and have a real good look around who were able to see what was really going on. There are many such examples coming at us now thick and fast. The expert, the professionals, are all f**king hopeless. They are wrong time and time again.

Something like I've been trying to get across re Chloroquine and Covid 19.

There's a hurricane coming in fast.

Trump: "Grab a hammer and nails and bung those sheets of ply over the windows"

Democrats: "You can't do that you haven't got a permit, that ply might be the wrong grade. blah blah."

Too much of what is called education is little more than an expensive isolation from reality.
Thomas Sowell

When you don't take your time, you end up killing more people. Like overdoses on chloroquine, and side effects too.

Sweden has stopped using it because they believe it's not helping, but it is helping kill people.

https://www.republicworld.com/world-new ... quine.html

You can't rush with this stuff because it can go so very wrong.

EDIT - Some genius even said the cure can't be worse than the illness.

Jay Cee Gee wrote:

BillW wrote:
Only a bunch of retards would ban the use of one of these treatments merely because Trump was hopeful that it would work.

Care to give some examples of people saying it should be banned for this reason? Or indeed anyone saying it should be banned at all?

He really has taken over merry’s title of number liar on the bored

That Bukowski quote is interesting. I've used a similar quote, believing it was originally from Bertrand Russell...turns out I was partially right (see below). Also learned the word 'nostrum' - a medicine prepared by an unqualified person, especially one that is not considered effective or a scheme or remedy for bringing about some social or political reform or improvement. A word that could get an re-airing in the current climate.

In 1920 W. B. Yeats published the poem “The Second Coming”, and the final two lines of the first section presented an instance of the saying. Boldface has been added to excerpts: 1

The Second Coming

Turning and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.

Here are additional selected citations in chronological order.

In 1933 Bertrand Russell wrote an essay titled “The Triumph of Stupidity” that lamented the rise of the Nazi movement in Germany. Russell employed a version of the saying: 2

The fundamental cause of the trouble is that in the modern world the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt. Even those of the intelligent who believe that they have a nostrum are too individualistic to combine with other intelligent men from whom they differ on minor points.

BillW wrote:

The eductation system is for the most part a sausage factory and systemic brain washing machine.

However, what I am really talking about can be best seen in the book and film 'The Big Short'. All the professionals in the investment banks and pension funds are running hither and thither all day answering emails, attending meetings, filling in diversity and inclusion surveys and anti money laundering courses etc in between trying to balance a family life and they had no chance seeing what was going on.

It was guys sitting in small offices by themselves without the constant distractions who had the time to slow down, take a deep breath, and lift the hood and have a real good look around who were able to see what was really going on. There are many such examples coming at us now thick and fast. The expert, the professionals, are all f**king hopeless. They are wrong time and time again.

Something like I've been trying to get across re Chloroquine and Covid 19.

There's a hurricane coming in fast.

Trump: "Grab a hammer and nails and bung those sheets of ply over the windows"

Democrats: "You can't do that you haven't got a permit, that ply might be the wrong grade. blah blah."

Too much of what is called education is little more than an expensive isolation from reality.
Thomas Sowell

We know what ply wood does to protect from the hurricane you charalatan.

Despite your repeated lies in this thread we don't yet know what, if anything, Chloroquine does in regards to Covid 19.

Hong Kong wrote:

Jay Cee Gee wrote:

BillW wrote:
Only a bunch of retards would ban the use of one of these treatments merely because Trump was hopeful that it would work.

Care to give some examples of people saying it should be banned for this reason? Or indeed anyone saying it should be banned at all?

He really has taken over merry’s title of number liar on the bored

−NY Governor Bans Possible COVID-19 Drug
New York Governor Andrew Cuomo banned the Food and Drug Administration approved drug, hydroxychloroquine, as a potential cure for COVID-19.

According to News Day, Cuomo placed bans on the state of New York restricting doctors from prescribing chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine for treatment of COVID-19. The drug may only be used for patients in state-approved clinical trials and FDA-approved uses as an anti-malarial or autoimmune treatment. In addition, there is only a 14-day supply with no refills.....

https://www.canyon-news.com/ny-governor ... ure/107073

Michigan's Whitmer pivots on crackdown, asks feds for Trump-touted drugs
Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer has asked the federal government for hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine, days after her administration came under criticism for a statewide crackdown on the drugs touted by President Trump for the novel coronavirus.

The request from the Michigan Health and Human Services Department was made after the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) issued an emergency-use authorization Monday for the drugs, which have long been approved for treating malaria, lupus and rheumatoid arthritis.....

Give yourself an uppercut.

UncleFB wrote:

BillW wrote:

The eductation system is for the most part a sausage factory and systemic brain washing machine.

However, what I am really talking about can be best seen in the book and film 'The Big Short'. All the professionals in the investment banks and pension funds are running hither and thither all day answering emails, attending meetings, filling in diversity and inclusion surveys and anti money laundering courses etc in between trying to balance a family life and they had no chance seeing what was going on.

It was guys sitting in small offices by themselves without the constant distractions who had the time to slow down, take a deep breath, and lift the hood and have a real good look around who were able to see what was really going on. There are many such examples coming at us now thick and fast. The expert, the professionals, are all f**king hopeless. They are wrong time and time again.

Something like I've been trying to get across re Chloroquine and Covid 19.

There's a hurricane coming in fast.

Trump: "Grab a hammer and nails and bung those sheets of ply over the windows"

Democrats: "You can't do that you haven't got a permit, that ply might be the wrong grade. blah blah."

Too much of what is called education is little more than an expensive isolation from reality.
Thomas Sowell

We know what ply wood does to protect from the hurricane you charalatan.

Despite your repeated lies in this thread we don't yet know what, if anything, Chloroquine does in regards to Covid 19.

What you need is a good dose of Tucker.

https://www.foxnews.com/health/dr-marc- ... hloroquine

Seneca of the Night wrote:
The eductation system is for the most part a sausage factory and systemic brain washing machine.

However, what I am really talking about can be best seen in the book and film 'The Big Short'. All the professionals in the investment banks and pension funds are running hither and thither all day answering emails, attending meetings, filling in diversity and inclusion surveys and anti money laundering courses etc in between trying to balance a family life and they had no chance seeing what was going on.

It was guys sitting in small offices by themselves without the constant distractions who had the time to slow down, take a deep breath, and lift the hood and have a real good look around who were able to see what was really going on. There are many such examples coming at us now thick and fast. The expert, the professionals, are all fucking hopeless. They are wrong time and time again.

And I don't believe it's because they are not intelligent - they are. It's because I think they are too busy.

Hi guys

I see the cracker savant is still holding court.

LOL

BillW wrote:

Hong Kong wrote:

Jay Cee Gee wrote:

BillW wrote:
Only a bunch of retards would ban the use of one of these treatments merely because Trump was hopeful that it would work.

Care to give some examples of people saying it should be banned for this reason? Or indeed anyone saying it should be banned at all?

He really has taken over merry’s title of number liar on the bored

−NY Governor Bans Possible COVID-19 Drug
New York Governor Andrew Cuomo banned the Food and Drug Administration approved drug, hydroxychloroquine, as a potential cure for COVID-19.

According to News Day, Cuomo placed bans on the state of New York restricting doctors from prescribing chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine for treatment of COVID-19. The drug may only be used for patients in state-approved clinical trials and FDA-approved uses as an anti-malarial or autoimmune treatment. In addition, there is only a 14-day supply with no refills.....

https://www.canyon-news.com/ny-governor ... ure/107073

Jesus Christ you have the reading comprehension skills of a 14 year old. I've bolded the salient part for you. And without getting to hung up on the fact that it's Sean Hannity interviewing Dr Oz the article also goes on...

On an April 1, during a Fox News interview, Dr. Oz announced that he asked Governor Cuomo to reconsider the ban on hydroxychloroquine. “I suspect there were concerns for the folks with rheumatoid arthritis and lupus who are dependent on chloroquine and couldn’t get it,” Dr. Oz told Sean Hannity.

But yeah yeah TDS

Perhaps go back for a lucky dip in the "MAGA Crimes" section of Canyon News?
https://www.canyon-news.com/category/maga

You haven't attributed the other article.