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PostPosted: Tue Apr 04, 2017 2:37 pm 
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Just discovered Obituary recently while re-listening to some classic Sepultura, never really gave 'em a go but I enjoyed the song Chopped in Half...part at 2:53 kills. And Turned Inside Out.

And I was actually privileged enough to see this performed live on a side stage at a festival a couple years back - Hammer Smashed Face. Made world famous by this scene from Ace Ventura. 6:35 :lol:

Here's some relatively more recent work by the original tech-death giant Atheist - Second to Sun.

And here's some of that classic Sepultura I mentioned earlier...wouldn't be right to leave you all hanging: Inner Self live in 1991, played at a blistering pace. Must have been a great band to see live back in the day.


Oh, never saw this response, thread got bumped today.
Well with Obituary it's always been the vocalist that was such a caricature that I could never take them seriously, but Floridians got rhythm man, always groovy death metal back in those days.

Sepultura...fk, when they were death-thrash there, late 80's early 90's, legendary.
Not bad at all, the new Atheist.


Okay, I leave you with more classic Floridian sound, lesser known but equally classic *brutal grin on*
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYSy60IJako


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hey so sluts, it had been a loooong ass time since I'd got back to the classic death metal magnums. I propose this awesome piece of music:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zSs8-LBDL8

A vast majority of "classics" get tremendous status from the fact they were very raw with campy recording etc...and odd at the time they came out, but aren't actually good music if you consciously look at it. But do you have any classics that are actually any good ? Give me a couple here you personally enjoy.


Fill yer boots son (I'm assuming you just wanted death metal here, not thrash)

Dismember Like an Everflowing Stream https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMi86Dca1QY

Cemetary An Evil Shade of Grey https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ReHyqVkgkbE

Nocturnus The Key https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGg11znHPA8

Entombed Left Hand Path https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsdWLtPAVqM

Carnage Dark Recollections https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41eFRyDdFd4

Afflicted Prodigal Son https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pefr9tuguUM

Pungent Stench Been Caught Buttering https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HN--_3V ... Z55AL_rg9K

Gorguts The Erosion of Sanity https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dW78R5VC1MU

Demilich Nesphite https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGU9M5rTX_I

Suffocation Pierced from Within https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRYwwPvwpQo

Demigod Slumber of Sullen Eyes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5hzuFEjeoo

Immolation Failures for Gods https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNHBOgVZ8GE

Incantation Onward to Golgotha https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBt-mwGtvHc

Cryptopsy None so Vile https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3JeaBoBU-c


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 05, 2017 10:35 pm 
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Dork Lard wrote:
hey so sluts, it had been a loooong ass time since I'd got back to the classic death metal magnums. I propose this awesome piece of music:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zSs8-LBDL8

A vast majority of "classics" get tremendous status from the fact they were very raw with campy recording etc...and odd at the time they came out, but aren't actually good music if you consciously look at it. But do you have any classics that are actually any good ? Give me a couple here you personally enjoy.


Fill yer boots son (I'm assuming you just wanted death metal here, not thrash)

Dismember Like an Everflowing Stream https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMi86Dca1QY

Cemetary An Evil Shade of Grey https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ReHyqVkgkbE

Nocturnus The Key https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGg11znHPA8

Entombed Left Hand Path https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsdWLtPAVqM

Carnage Dark Recollections https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41eFRyDdFd4

Afflicted Prodigal Son https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pefr9tuguUM

Pungent Stench Been Caught Buttering https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HN--_3V ... Z55AL_rg9K

Gorguts The Erosion of Sanity https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dW78R5VC1MU

Demilich Nesphite https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGU9M5rTX_I

Suffocation Pierced from Within https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRYwwPvwpQo

Demigod Slumber of Sullen Eyes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5hzuFEjeoo

Immolation Failures for Gods https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNHBOgVZ8GE

Incantation Onward to Golgotha https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBt-mwGtvHc

Cryptopsy None so Vile https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3JeaBoBU-c


Ah apologies but, ain't nobody's son when it comes to metal ;)

Lots of those are fine, Pierced From Within easily the best of the lot for this listener, and I appreciate the effort, but let's go at it one or two songs at a time ! I mean the point is to discover and help discover bands here, I'm not going to listen/re-listen to all this !

Here's the best song for me off that entire list to piggy-back on your post (couple albums, never heard):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YepbZ90amLY

Absolutely, motherfkng, sick. Prepare lots of cough syrup before playing. Lahaahahahahaats of cough syrup.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 06, 2017 1:23 am 
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John Garcia has just released an acoustic album, some new stuff, some Kyuss stuff, anyone heard it?


No, but will be giving it a whirl when I can get hold of it. On my own then?


Don't bother, it's shite. Poor Garcia really is a one trick muso. He's battling for relevance after the departure of Homme and Bjork. They wrote most of the tunes and the lyrics.

Never a fan of Orange Golblin nor Electric Wizard as mentioned above. Neither hold a candle to Kyuss, one of the best bands ever.


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Just bumped into this.

https://youtu.be/Z7dDdNGcx0U

I haven't heard them for 20 years but it looks like body count cleaned house and got some decent musicians in.


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This is good fun too

https://youtu.be/nZ2ucr74YNk


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Santa wrote:
This is good fun too

https://youtu.be/nZ2ucr74YNk


Ah, I see. You want to play this game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIu56lCZiKk


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 06, 2017 2:43 pm 
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Some good stuff released recently.

Saor- Guardians is a phenomenal pagan/black metal album. Very Scottish, so bonus points.

Junius have evolved from shoegaze arty rock to something heavier. Love the new album, closing song Black Sarcophagus is utterly brilliant.

And the new Mastodon album, Emperor of Sand, is really nice too.


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Gojira have a new album out as well IIRC, haven't heard it yet but I've not known them release a duff record so far


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A wake in providence.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eL3qP8KJmzg


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Ah, the deathcore starts. :roll:
Need to cleanse this with some actual metal...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKmo4mX5QBQ
Whew. Saved !


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 06, 2017 10:14 pm 
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Some Irish metal:

Primordial - Empire Falls


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 06, 2017 10:24 pm 
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f**king love this song:

Ministry - Scarecrow


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 06, 2017 10:26 pm 
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iarmhiman wrote:
Some Irish metal:

Primordial - Empire Falls

Some what ?
heh, only Irish metal band I ever knew was Mourning Beloveth.


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I remember moving to the midlands at age 13, everyone seemed to be mad metal heads, and if the wind was blowing in the right direction, you could catch monsters of rock in the back garden


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Sepultura - Refuse/Resist


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sepultura, quality! Image

One of my mates cousins was related to max through marriage, my mates cousin was in fudge tunnel. So max sepultura came to play donnington and max wanted a fudge tunnel t-shirt to wear on stage, so borrows my mates one, he was unbearably arrogant about that! but that is max in the t short of a spotty 16 year old!


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iarmhiman wrote:

that reminds me. Should post my old "heaviest sections/riffs" video. :roll:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rlo8f9PfoVA&t=1630s

If you want to be sonically raped a little bit, click the link above.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 07, 2017 10:36 pm 
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Yeah lets keep the metal going.

Ra's Dawn - Inside out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdstiUmKcN4


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iarmhiman wrote:

that reminds me. Should post my old "heaviest sections/riffs" video. :roll:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rlo8f9PfoVA&t=1630s

If you want to be sonically raped a little bit, click the link above.


Do what you want. You don't need my validation.


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Rammstein - Mein Teil

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBvwcH4XX6U


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iarmhiman wrote:
Dork Lard wrote:
iarmhiman wrote:

that reminds me. Should post my old "heaviest sections/riffs" video. :roll:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rlo8f9PfoVA&t=1630s

If you want to be sonically raped a little bit, click the link above.


Do what you want. You don't need my validation.

How to gratuitously instill tension in the air...for no reason !

Anybody into grind here ?
Got me this one some months ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kt_KriOoG1Y
Brutal as fk, sometimes not top notch song-writing wise, but exhausting intense as fk groovy modern grind with a twist. Anybody want to post some good grind ?


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Don't know if this qualifies DL but I think these guys were at the forefront of that scene IIRC...only just discovered them myself

Carcass - Corporal Jigsore Quandary

Mmmmm riiiiiffffffsssssss


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 12, 2017 7:39 am 
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Think I posted them in this thread already but I love these guys...like Meshuggah but trading some technicality for general proggyness. Part of the "djent" scene but they bring a lovely wrinkle to it, a rich texture to their music (hence the neologism "ambidjent")

Vildhjarta - Shiver

Vildhjarta - Mist förståndet


First (and to date only) album is a progressive death metal masterpiece:

Vildhjarta - Masstaden
And without the vocals (worth it if you aren't into the shouting/growls, good instrumental work to be heard)


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 12, 2017 8:25 am 
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And one of my favorites, somewhat related, is the Ohio band The Contortionist. Their first album is fvcking nasty:

The Contortionist - Exoplanet

That's a remaster too, which highlights a few nice licks I hadn't picked up on. Though of course you lose some of the brute force as the old-school metalheads will surely attest to.

The first three songs are sensational. As is Oscillator and Exoplanet II: Void. The first comment has the timestamps.

Great compositions and riffs on this one. Tend to have a nice progression within their songs.


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Just bumped into this.

https://youtu.be/Z7dDdNGcx0U

I haven't heard them for 20 years but it looks like body count cleaned house and got some decent musicians in.


Beat Master V died of Leukemia
D-Roc died of cancer
Mooseman was killed in a drive-by shooting

But yes, their replacements are all good musicians

From the new album:
Black Hoodie
The ski mask way
No Lives Matter

From Manslaughter:
https://youtu.be/sokdL-0iV9s


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fonzeee wrote:
Don't know if this qualifies DL but I think these guys were at the forefront of that scene IIRC...only just discovered them myself

Carcass - Corporal Jigsore Quandary

Mmmmm riiiiiffffffsssssss

Carcass ? Yes, they do qualify as grindcore :P
Although for me, they really shine when they become melodic dmetal (before melodic dmetal existed):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=meeyG7Wa9Uk

You talk about killer riffs...


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Cult Of Luna & Julie Christmas - A Greater Call


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Interesting. Not bad. A bit of an atmospheric hardcore edge to this. Well, in that department of course nobody beats these guys at that:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U64kHFwKEjU


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Anything by Deafheaven, but Sunbather album (particularly Dream House and The Pecan Tree) is my favourite.


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Deafheaven - Violet (from the first album - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUJoPoNYQQI) and Dream House (from Sunbather - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWyVhIBmdGw).

also big into Rosetta at the minute - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGQNcnKGeDQ


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Deafheaven - Violet (from the first album - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUJoPoNYQQI) and Dream House (from Sunbather - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWyVhIBmdGw).

also big into Rosetta at the minute - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGQNcnKGeDQ

huh, nice.

A bit reminiscent of this to me (in that post-metal/atmospheric black metal mold):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmUb4acJ_hQ

Just an instrumental, and totally minimalistic. But absolutely gorgeous.


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Dork Lard wrote:
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Interesting. Not bad. A bit of an atmospheric hardcore edge to this. Well, in that department of course nobody beats these guys at that:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U64kHFwKEjU


Never quite managed to get into Neurosis. I really liked the A Sun That Never Sets album but found the other albums just too samey.

Cult of Luna OTOH - one of my all time favourite bands. Somewhere Along The Highway might just be my favourite album ever, although this latest one with Julie Christmas as well as their previous one (Vertikal) push it close.


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Eternal void - Solipsist

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Ah nice. Not a fan of modern metal, like..at all (!). But this is like a form of Djent meets KSEngage.

Voice reminded me of:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzt-NUB ... kKshTwETTH

Superb album. Unbelievable chorus this one. So wish other bands would blend styles like this (agro-metal with techno) with as much taste and efficiency..


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Dork Lard wrote:
rageagainstthemachine wrote:

Ah nice. Not a fan of modern metal, like..at all (!). But this is like a form of Djent meets KSEngage.

Voice reminded me of:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzt-NUB ... kKshTwETTH

Superb album. Unbelievable chorus this one. So wish other bands would blend styles like this (agro-metal with techno) with as much taste and efficiency..


This djent thing drives me nuts. Its just instrumental metal ffs! Wasnt it some nerd on the internet that coined that phrase becuase some band were getting into the technical details of said music!


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IIRC it was termed by the guy behind Periphery. I just take djent to mean more rythmic metal not so heavily centered around an even beat (a lot of people say "polyrythms" a la Meshuggah), with some attention to progressive compositions and technical quirks here and there. I can't prove it but I've always believed it is the metal community's reaction to a society where hip-hop is mainstream; synchopation and a beat is far more prominent in djent than in most traditional metal.

For this reason some would say it's not too far downstream from 90s nu metal. Just metal-ier, if we accept late 80s Metallica as the pure Platonic form of metal (with their long compositions and relative technicality).


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Well this is a topic of its own, so as this is a Rugby forum I won't dwell on it long... but I'm sorry but put nu-metal down all you want, KoRn creatively were millions of miles ahead of what the Djent bands are doing now.

Periphery's first album (instrumental) was superb though. The only good full Djent album ever ? Probably.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bo8d0vIF508

Mansoor has since then settled for muuuuuuuch more generic, blockbuster-y stuff. Nothing like the magic of that first one...


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IIRC it was termed by the guy behind Periphery. I just take djent to mean more rythmic metal not so heavily centered around an even beat (a lot of people say "polyrythms" a la Meshuggah), with some attention to progressive compositions and technical quirks here and there. I can't prove it but I've always believed it is the metal community's reaction to a society where hip-hop is mainstream; synchopation and a beat is far more prominent in djent than in most traditional metal.

For this reason some would say it's not too far downstream from 90s nu metal.



Yeah thats right, and then some internet warrior ran with it.


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