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The Magic Rock Luminance is quite a remarkable thing in Tesco now for £3, just a smashing NEIPA but boy I feel guilty buying it these days.

I spoke to Stu about this the other day.

He feels he's let the industry down but the offer was too good to refuse and his partners were pushing him heavily in this direction. He's tied in for the next few years so hopefully will keep quality going. I'll still buy the beers as long as they're decent.

Next brewery I know to sell up: 5 points.


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A base level acceptable pale ale in a shop kernel/5points, starts at £2.50 for a 330mml can/bottle but can ramp up rapidly


Went to West Berkshire Brewery in Yattingdon on Sunday. Shocked at how expensive a 330ml can of pale ale or bitter is (£3.30 each), but they'll sell you a pint of the same stuff for £4.00 :?


About 6.50 pounds a pint in Oz

Craft beer is increasingly being sold in 4 packs fornthr old 6 pack price. Tax on craft breweries is extortionate


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Ok, Tuatara Motueka (edit...I just noticed the label, Moteureka). I like this better than Emerson's at 2/3rds the price. Instant passionfruit, where with Emerson's it's more mid range. No passionfruit at all in Bouncing Czech. Midway rough between Bouncing Czech and Emerson's.

I guess I'll have to keep exploring, but I think this is better value than Emerson's, maybe as good a value as Bouncing Czech.


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Ok, Tuatara Motueka. I like this better than Emerson's at 2/3rds the price. Instant passionfruit, where with Emerson's it's more mid range. No passionfruit at all in Bouncing Czech. Midway rough between Bouncing Czech and Emerson's.

I guess I'll have to keep exploring, but I think this is better value than Emerson's, maybe as good a value as Bouncing Czech.


:thumbup:

Tbf, I wouldn't normally pay the extra price for Emerson's pilsner either as it's a relatively simple style and the difference in price when compared to the difference in Quality is quite high.

But for other styles such as IPAs it can make a huge difference, and will to some extent reflect the additional costs of the ingredients.

Macs Miss Conduct is also a pretty good pilsner for the price. Although I've only ever had it at the end of a long day in the Koru Lounge so have never actually paid for it, so my opinion may be slightly colored. Beer at the end of a long day always tastes better. It similar to the lawn mower effect.


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Macs Miss Conduct is also a pretty good pilsner for the price. [...]

Beer at the end of a long day always tastes better. It similar to the lawn mower effect.
I'll certainly check that Mac's out.
Yeah, I'd just finished mowing the lawn when I tested the Tuatara but later sampling confirmed my opinion.


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So, just checked out MIss Conduct. Similar style to Emerson's and Tuatara, close in effect/style and value to Tuatara imo. Looks like around $17.00 a half doz in West Liquor is the price point at which NZ Pilseners show fruity hop characteristics.

Won't buy BRB Golden Lager again, nor Moa's dry hopped Pilsener. BRB IPA was quite drinkable, at the same price as Bouncing Czech.


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My friends up North are raving about Garage Project's May fresh hop. Keen to try as soon as its in stores down here.

Just picked up the last 4 cans of Behemoth's Chocolate Fish stout, and 2 of their new Hazy double IPA (So fresh so mean) Have heard good things about the stout


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The Magic Rock Luminance is quite a remarkable thing in Tesco now for £3, just a smashing NEIPA but boy I feel guilty buying it these days.

I spoke to Stu about this the other day.

He feels he's let the industry down but the offer was too good to refuse and his partners were pushing him heavily in this direction. He's tied in for the next few years so hopefully will keep quality going. I'll still buy the beers as long as they're decent.

Next brewery I know to sell up: 5 points.

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You know anything about Two Tribes in Kings Cross? Son went there on Friday and reckons it was pretty good. Not overly impressed with the Dancing in Fields IPA he bought back for me, was a bit ordinary. Got a Wylam collab sour to try and a porter to try which I hope are better
Never come across them before


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I think I've worked out my current Pilsener equation. If Mac's Miss Conduct has a price differential of =/< $2.00 greater than Bouncing Czech for half a dozen 330ml bottles, it's Mac's; otherwise the Czechs never stop bouncing.


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SaintK wrote:
happyhooker wrote:
unseenwork wrote:
The Magic Rock Luminance is quite a remarkable thing in Tesco now for £3, just a smashing NEIPA but boy I feel guilty buying it these days.

I spoke to Stu about this the other day.

He feels he's let the industry down but the offer was too good to refuse and his partners were pushing him heavily in this direction. He's tied in for the next few years so hopefully will keep quality going. I'll still buy the beers as long as they're decent.

Next brewery I know to sell up: 5 points.

HH
You know anything about Two Tribes in Kings Cross? Son went there on Friday and reckons it was pretty good. Not overly impressed with the Dancing in Fields IPA he bought back for me, was a bit ordinary. Got a Wylam collab sour to try and a porter to try which I hope are better
Never come across them before

I've only had 2 of their beers - flaming galah and whatever their heferviessen is called.

Not impressed. Maybe if they stopped being cool and learnt to brew it might help. I left after 30 mins, but then it was loud, even for a Friday night.


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happyhooker wrote:
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happyhooker wrote:
unseenwork wrote:
The Magic Rock Luminance is quite a remarkable thing in Tesco now for £3, just a smashing NEIPA but boy I feel guilty buying it these days.

I spoke to Stu about this the other day.

He feels he's let the industry down but the offer was too good to refuse and his partners were pushing him heavily in this direction. He's tied in for the next few years so hopefully will keep quality going. I'll still buy the beers as long as they're decent.

Next brewery I know to sell up: 5 points.

HH
You know anything about Two Tribes in Kings Cross? Son went there on Friday and reckons it was pretty good. Not overly impressed with the Dancing in Fields IPA he bought back for me, was a bit ordinary. Got a Wylam collab sour to try and a porter to try which I hope are better
Never come across them before

I've only had 2 of their beers - flaming galah and whatever their heferviessen is called.

Not impressed. Maybe if they stopped being cool and learnt to brew it might help. I left after 30 mins, but then it was loud, even for a Friday night.

Hmmm. Their website bears out your “cool” comment. Haven’t found too many reviews so will give it go next time in London, it’s only a 10 minute walk from Kings Cross. Not holding out much hope mind you


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I think I've worked out my current Pilsener equation. If Mac's Miss Conduct has a price differential of =/< $2.00 greater than Bouncing Czech for half a dozen 330ml bottles, it's Mac's; otherwise the Czechs never stop bouncing.



The Mac's is passable, but I wouldn't generally venture south of the Tuatara. 3 Boys, Parrot Dog and Panhead all do decent pils.


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Had a pint of Pikes DIPA last night.

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Having a pint of beer baroness madam brown at the moment. Can confirm it's still lovely.

And as the pub is attached to the brewery it's nz$11 for a proper 568ml pint.


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Having a pint of beer baroness madam brown at the moment. Can confirm it's still lovely.

And as the pub is attached to the brewery it's nz$11 for a proper 568ml pint.



That's a top beer which only seems to be infrequently and fleetingly available up here.

Thankfully I've been getting my hand on some McLeod's excellent Brown Porter.


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Gotta say, haven't found a single red ale I enjoy.
Such bitter taste to them.
Any Irish recommendations?


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Gotta say, haven't found a single red ale I enjoy.
Such bitter taste to them.
Any Irish recommendations?

None.

Really don't like the style. Sorry not to have been more helpful


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Gotta say, haven't found a single red ale I enjoy.
Such bitter taste to them.
Any Irish recommendations?

None.

Really don't like the style. Sorry not to have been more helpful

Good to have back up for my opinion, they're sick.


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Floppykid wrote:
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Gotta say, haven't found a single red ale I enjoy.
Such bitter taste to them.
Any Irish recommendations?

None.

Really don't like the style. Sorry not to have been more helpful

Good to have back up for my opinion, they're sick.

+1. Never found one I liked even a little bit.

There are more good beers than ever before in more of the world than ever before. Don't waste your time with styles you don't like.


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Having a pint of beer baroness madam brown at the moment. Can confirm it's still lovely.

And as the pub is attached to the brewery it's nz$11 for a proper 568ml pint.



That's a top beer which only seems to be infrequently and fleetingly available up here.

Thankfully I've been getting my hand on some McLeod's excellent Brown Porter.


Nice. The Volstead had that on for a while. McLeod's do some lovely stuff.


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Tried a couple of these Parrotdog Colin West Coast IPA’s last night. Lovely, balanced brew. A touch light in the aftertaste but very smooth for 7%.

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Very nice. Try Keith, I think it’s the hazy ipa from the same range.

I’m enjoying the Jags fight back while immensely enjoying a Liberty brewing Invictus. 2019 fresh hop pale. Fantastic beer


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Tried a couple of these Parrotdog Colin West Coast IPA’s last night. Lovely, balanced brew. A touch light in the aftertaste but very smooth for 7%.

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It's a lovely drop. Their "Keith" is also very good. There's a "Susan" as well, but I haven't managed to try that yet.


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Mine have always been: Corona, Stella Artois, and the beloved Port-a-gaff (Guiness with a dash of lemonade)


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Mine have always been: Corona, Stella Artois, and the beloved Port-a-gaff (Guiness with a dash of lemonade)

You have the tastebuds of a sewer rat


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Mine have always been: Corona, Stella Artois, and the beloved Port-a-gaff (Guiness with a dash of lemonade)

Lemonade in Guinness? FFS man, that's a crime! Bet it pours easily in the glass as well?


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Gotta say, haven't found a single red ale I enjoy.
Such bitter taste to them.
Any Irish recommendations?

None.

Really don't like the style. Sorry not to have been more helpful


Not a fan either but Chimay Red is enjoyable. I just wouldnt pick it off a shelf where I could get a blue or a white say.

As for Irish, might as well stick to Smithwicks or McArdles. The craft ones are useless.


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Cwtch, fine fine pint on cask. Irish wise, always been a fan of 8 Degrees' Sunburnt red, let me think here.


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Gotta say, haven't found a single red ale I enjoy.
Such bitter taste to them.
Any Irish recommendations?

None.

Really don't like the style. Sorry not to have been more helpful


Not a fan either but Chimay Red is enjoyable. I just wouldnt pick it off a shelf where I could get a blue or a white say.

As for Irish, might as well stick to Smithwicks or McArdles. The craft ones are useless.



Chimay Red isn't a red ale. It's a dubbel.


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Cwtch, fine fine pint on cask. Irish wise, always been a fan of 8 Degrees' Sunburnt red, let me think here.

I find cwtch only just drinkable at best. Hook island was probably as good as I've tasted. Just don't like them.

Boxcar, did you forget about watney's red barrel?


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Cwtch, fine fine pint on cask. Irish wise, always been a fan of 8 Degrees' Sunburnt red, let me think here.

I find cwtch only just drinkable at best. Hook island was probably as good as I've tasted. Just don't like them.

Boxcar, did you forget about watney's red barrel?

I love 'em to be honest, up there with a fine brown ale or 80 shilling as a comfort beer. Smithwicks would tend to be my Irish beer desert drink.


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Cwtch, fine fine pint on cask. Irish wise, always been a fan of 8 Degrees' Sunburnt red, let me think here.

I find cwtch only just drinkable at best. Hook island was probably as good as I've tasted. Just don't like them.

Boxcar, did you forget about watney's red barrel?

I love 'em to be honest, up there with a fine brown ale or 80 shilling as a comfort beer. Smithwicks would tend to be my Irish beer desert drink.

It'd be a boring world if we all liked the same thing.

For instance, people think the sun shines out of verdant's arse, whereas I'm fairly ambivalent.


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Hellraiser wrote:
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happyhooker wrote:
Floppykid wrote:
Gotta say, haven't found a single red ale I enjoy.
Such bitter taste to them.
Any Irish recommendations?

None.

Really don't like the style. Sorry not to have been more helpful


Not a fan either but Chimay Red is enjoyable. I just wouldnt pick it off a shelf where I could get a blue or a white say.

As for Irish, might as well stick to Smithwicks or McArdles. The craft ones are useless.



Chimay Red isn't a red ale. It's a dubbel.


Ah I realise I'm cheating slightly but it's red and it's an ale


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happyhooker wrote:
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Cwtch, fine fine pint on cask. Irish wise, always been a fan of 8 Degrees' Sunburnt red, let me think here.

I find cwtch only just drinkable at best. Hook island was probably as good as I've tasted. Just don't like them.

Boxcar, did you forget about watney's red barrel?


Ha yeah. Reminds of Betty in the Rovers Return pulling the handle off of the pump


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Actually if you're looking for an interesting one, White Hag's Meabh Rua is a big strong peat smoked red. Keep an eye out for Heaney's Red Ale, they're going to be a brewery to watch in general. Maybe would also count Kinnegar's Devil's Backbone even if they label it as an amber.


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happyhooker wrote:
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Cwtch, fine fine pint on cask. Irish wise, always been a fan of 8 Degrees' Sunburnt red, let me think here.

I find cwtch only just drinkable at best. Hook island was probably as good as I've tasted. Just don't like them.

Boxcar, did you forget about watney's red barrel?

I love 'em to be honest, up there with a fine brown ale or 80 shilling as a comfort beer. Smithwicks would tend to be my Irish beer desert drink.

It'd be a boring world if we all liked the same thing.

For instance, people think the sun shines out of verdant's arse, whereas I'm fairly ambivalent.

I mean if you like the 2 or 3 IPAs they keep relabeling they're great.


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Actually if you're looking for an interesting one, White Hag's Meabh Rua is a big strong peat smoked red. Keep an eye out for Heaney's Red Ale, they're going to be a brewery to watch in general. Maybe would also count Kinnegar's Devil's Backbone even if they label it as an amber.


Yeah I've had the White Hag. It's a bit different alright.

Haven't heard of Heaneys will keep an eye out for that


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Boxcar Ira wrote:
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Actually if you're looking for an interesting one, White Hag's Meabh Rua is a big strong peat smoked red. Keep an eye out for Heaney's Red Ale, they're going to be a brewery to watch in general. Maybe would also count Kinnegar's Devil's Backbone even if they label it as an amber.


Yeah I've had the White Hag. It's a bit different alright.

Haven't heard of Heaneys will keep an eye out for that

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Boxcar Ira wrote:
Hellraiser wrote:
Boxcar Ira wrote:
happyhooker wrote:
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Gotta say, haven't found a single red ale I enjoy.
Such bitter taste to them.
Any Irish recommendations?

None.

Really don't like the style. Sorry not to have been more helpful


Not a fan either but Chimay Red is enjoyable. I just wouldnt pick it off a shelf where I could get a blue or a white say.

As for Irish, might as well stick to Smithwicks or McArdles. The craft ones are useless.



Chimay Red isn't a red ale. It's a dubbel.


Ah I realise I'm cheating slightly but it's red and it's an ale



A dubbel by definition is a brown ale.


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Actually if you're looking for an interesting one, White Hag's Meabh Rua is a big strong peat smoked red. Keep an eye out for Heaney's Red Ale, they're going to be a brewery to watch in general. Maybe would also count Kinnegar's Devil's Backbone even if they label it as an amber.



Barrel-aged Meabh Rua is damn nice.


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