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PostPosted: Wed Jan 15, 2020 2:22 am 
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Warrenball, Rassieball.. not to mention those tactics were the most successful of the most recent World Cup. Refs seem to encourage teams to use these tactics and reward them despite these tactics being around since before the Jakeball days and those tactics being a very negative style.

Its a sad state to see the game head this direction where basic up and unders and punting towards the sky is a tactic that refs seem to be very rewarding to. Jerome Garces ruined a shitload of games recently. No idea how a ref like Glen Jackson misses out on a world cup but Jerome Garces makes the final. South Africa got very lucky that he reffed the bulk of their matches and that those tactics were ones where he seemed to reward the South Africa side for them more than anyone else. I could only imagine if Nigel Owens reffed the final it would have actually been worth watching, instead we were subjectdd to a match that rivaled the shitness of the Rassieball vs Warrenball semi final. Unfortunately Englands tactics were not rewarded, a few dodgy calls at some key moments where England looked to have turned the ball over or held players up werent rewarded and the game fell away from them.

International rugby is losing its Aura and club rugby seems to be the best form of Rugby right now which is a sad state of the game to be in. Im finding Super Rugby, ITM cup, NRC etc to be the very best forms of rugby right now. The Japanese world cup with all the cancellations and dour tactics was the worst world cup I have ever see. The 2007 world cup was pretty shit too, rhe Japanese one was far worse.


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I realise you're a dipshit, but it all goes in cycles. Besides, I thought England in the semi and South Africa in the final played great rugby.


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I realise you're a dipshit, but it all goes in cycles. Besides, I thought England in the semi and South Africa in the final played great rugby.


:lol: :lol: :lol:


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I realise you're a dipshit, but it all goes in cycles. Besides, I thought England in the semi and South Africa in the final played great rugby.


:lol: :lol: :lol:

What he said, or did, or laughed


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It’s lazy attitudes like this that reflect the prejudice of the viewer more than what’s actually happening on the field.

The last RWC was fantastic, with rugby played at a greater pace and with a higher skill level than ever before. Sure, there could be legitimate complaints about the over reliance from many teams for structured, patterned rugby but there was no little flair on display anyway.

And for as much as there are few secrets on the park anymore with video analysis and shared IP up the arse, there were contrasting styles as well. Witness the exhilarating attack of Japan (and who would have been excited about watching Japan 10 years ago) overcome their pool only to come up against the patient grind of the Yarpies. Or Eddie Jones outflank Hansen and his players utterly swamp what had been the most efficient attacking unit in the game.

The final you called boring was a perfect advert for the necessity of physical dominance and prep in modern rugby, and the English were ultimately seen off with two of the best tries ever seen in a WC final.

Your praise for club rugby, particularly SH club rugby, also makes no sense. There is as wide a gap between the intensity of test rugby and ‘club’ rugby as there has ever been, and in the south it’s now little more than an international audition or a chance for test veterans to get a rest and play themselves into the test season.

In short, you’re way off


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naki wrote:
It’s lazy attitudes like this that reflect the prejudice of the viewer more than what’s actually happening on the field.

The last RWC was fantastic, with rugby played at a greater pace and with a higher skill level than ever before. Sure, there could be legitimate complaints about the over reliance from many teams for structured, patterned rugby but there was no little flair on display anyway.

And for as much as there are few secrets on the park anymore with video analysis and shared IP up the arse, there were contrasting styles as well. Witness the exhilarating attack of Japan (and who would have been excited about watching Japan 10 years ago) overcome their pool only to come up against the patient grind of the Yarpies. Or Eddie Jones outflank Hansen and his players utterly swamp what had been the most efficient attacking unit in the game.

The final you called boring was a perfect advert for the necessity of physical dominance and prep in modern rugby, and the English were ultimately seen off with two of the best tries ever seen in a WC final.

Your praise for club rugby, particularly SH club rugby, also makes no sense. There is as wide a gap between the intensity of test rugby and ‘club’ rugby as there has ever been, and in the south it’s now little more than an international audition or a chance for test veterans to get a rest and play themselves into the test season.

In short, you’re way off

You have confirned my point. The best attacking teams didnt make the finals. There tactics simply didnt afford them the opportunity. Even New Zealand resorted to Rassieball/Warrenball in his semi against England. Aaron Smith looked like a complete plonker trying to impersonate the South African and welsh side.

In fact the only side that made the finals and actually played attacking Rugby was England, and there tactics were put to bed by negative play.

Yes NZL played attacking rugby earlier in the comp, but when it mattered they caved and played a style that simply didnt suit them.

If lottery rugby is what you enjoy then fine. But its an abomination to most people.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 15, 2020 4:07 am 
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RandomNavigat0r wrote:
naki wrote:
It’s lazy attitudes like this that reflect the prejudice of the viewer more than what’s actually happening on the field.

The last RWC was fantastic, with rugby played at a greater pace and with a higher skill level than ever before. Sure, there could be legitimate complaints about the over reliance from many teams for structured, patterned rugby but there was no little flair on display anyway.

And for as much as there are few secrets on the park anymore with video analysis and shared IP up the arse, there were contrasting styles as well. Witness the exhilarating attack of Japan (and who would have been excited about watching Japan 10 years ago) overcome their pool only to come up against the patient grind of the Yarpies. Or Eddie Jones outflank Hansen and his players utterly swamp what had been the most efficient attacking unit in the game.

The final you called boring was a perfect advert for the necessity of physical dominance and prep in modern rugby, and the English were ultimately seen off with two of the best tries ever seen in a WC final.

Your praise for club rugby, particularly SH club rugby, also makes no sense. There is as wide a gap between the intensity of test rugby and ‘club’ rugby as there has ever been, and in the south it’s now little more than an international audition or a chance for test veterans to get a rest and play themselves into the test season.

In short, you’re way off

You have confirned my point. The best attacking teams didnt make the finals. There tactics simply didnt afford them the opportunity. Even New Zealand resorted to Rassieball/Warrenball in his semi against England. Aaron Smith looked like a complete plonker trying to impersonate the South African and welsh side.

In fact the only side that made the finals and actually played attacking Rugby was England, and there tactics were put to bed by negative play.

Yes NZL played attacking rugby earlier in the comp, but when it mattered they caved and played a style that simply didnt suit them.

If lottery rugby is what you enjoy then fine. But its an abomination to most people.


I don’t think you know what these things are


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Also there is and should not be an automatic reward for whomever plays the most “attacking” rugby. Teams that play the most intelligent rugby should, and usually do, get the reward. As was the case in this RWC


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This is a troll thread, so can posters please respond to it as such.

I'm just trying to figure out who is being trolled, who the OP is targeting.


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Ali's Choice wrote:
This is a troll thread, so can posters please respond to it as such.

I'm just trying to figure out who is being trolled, who the OP is targeting.


He’s targeting you, and you just got owned


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naki wrote:
RandomNavigat0r wrote:
naki wrote:
It’s lazy attitudes like this that reflect the prejudice of the viewer more than what’s actually happening on the field.

The last RWC was fantastic, with rugby played at a greater pace and with a higher skill level than ever before. Sure, there could be legitimate complaints about the over reliance from many teams for structured, patterned rugby but there was no little flair on display anyway.

And for as much as there are few secrets on the park anymore with video analysis and shared IP up the arse, there were contrasting styles as well. Witness the exhilarating attack of Japan (and who would have been excited about watching Japan 10 years ago) overcome their pool only to come up against the patient grind of the Yarpies. Or Eddie Jones outflank Hansen and his players utterly swamp what had been the most efficient attacking unit in the game.

The final you called boring was a perfect advert for the necessity of physical dominance and prep in modern rugby, and the English were ultimately seen off with two of the best tries ever seen in a WC final.

Your praise for club rugby, particularly SH club rugby, also makes no sense. There is as wide a gap between the intensity of test rugby and ‘club’ rugby as there has ever been, and in the south it’s now little more than an international audition or a chance for test veterans to get a rest and play themselves into the test season.

In short, you’re way off


If lottery rugby is what you enjoy then fine. But its an abomination to most people.


I don’t think you know what these things are


Unfair verging on disrepectful. He's had a go at lotteries, watched rugby, lives among abominations and has glimpsed people from afar.


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RandomNavigat0r wrote:
naki wrote:
It’s lazy attitudes like this that reflect the prejudice of the viewer more than what’s actually happening on the field.

The last RWC was fantastic, with rugby played at a greater pace and with a higher skill level than ever before. Sure, there could be legitimate complaints about the over reliance from many teams for structured, patterned rugby but there was no little flair on display anyway.

And for as much as there are few secrets on the park anymore with video analysis and shared IP up the arse, there were contrasting styles as well. Witness the exhilarating attack of Japan (and who would have been excited about watching Japan 10 years ago) overcome their pool only to come up against the patient grind of the Yarpies. Or Eddie Jones outflank Hansen and his players utterly swamp what had been the most efficient attacking unit in the game.

The final you called boring was a perfect advert for the necessity of physical dominance and prep in modern rugby, and the English were ultimately seen off with two of the best tries ever seen in a WC final.

Your praise for club rugby, particularly SH club rugby, also makes no sense. There is as wide a gap between the intensity of test rugby and ‘club’ rugby as there has ever been, and in the south it’s now little more than an international audition or a chance for test veterans to get a rest and play themselves into the test season.

In short, you’re way off

You have confirned my point. The best attacking teams didnt make the finals. There tactics simply didnt afford them the opportunity. Even New Zealand resorted to Rassieball/Warrenball in his semi against England. Aaron Smith looked like a complete plonker trying to impersonate the South African and welsh side.

In fact the only side that made the finals and actually played attacking Rugby was England, and there tactics were put to bed by negative play.

Yes NZL played attacking rugby earlier in the comp, but when it mattered they caved and played a style that simply didnt suit them.

If lottery rugby is what you enjoy then fine. But its an abomination to most people.


This isn't a smart post.


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naki wrote:
Ali's Choice wrote:
This is a troll thread, so can posters please respond to it as such.

I'm just trying to figure out who is being trolled, who the OP is targeting.


He’s targeting you, and you just got owned


No he's not.

The use of the word 'Aura' has thrown me a bit. That's almost always used by non-Kiwis to troll NZ Rugby. It's a strange use of the word, and the fact that he's capitalised it to make it a noun suggests that it was deliberately used.

I'm going to go out on a limb, and say that this is a faux NZ poster. A fake login who is pretending to be an AB fan a la Anonymous with his 'Primo Choice' login circa 2006. And in terms of target audience, this thread was started to make NZ Rugby fans look like idiots, and so Northern Hemisphere and South African based posters can laugh at NZ posters for not winning the last RWC.


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Ali's Choice wrote:
naki wrote:
Ali's Choice wrote:
This is a troll thread, so can posters please respond to it as such.

I'm just trying to figure out who is being trolled, who the OP is targeting.


He’s targeting you, and you just got owned


No he's not.

The use of the word 'Aura' has thrown me a bit. That's almost always used by non-Kiwis to troll NZ Rugby. It's a strange use of the word, and the fact that he's capitalised it to make it a noun suggests that it was deliberately used.

I'm going to go out on a limb, and say that this is a faux NZ poster. A fake login who is pretending to be an AB fan a la Anonymous with his 'Primo Choice' login circa 2006. And in terms of target audience, this thread was started to make NZ Rugby fans look like idiots, and so Northern Hemisphere and South African based posters can laugh at NZ posters for not winning the last RWC.


Owned.
















He could definitely be a legitimate dumbass kiwi. We’ve had them before, we’ll have them
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Ali's Choice wrote:
It's a strange use of the word, and the fact that he's capitalised it to make it a noun suggests that it was deliberately used.



Aren't you a teacher...? :uhoh:


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naki111 wrote:
Ali's Choice wrote:
It's a strange use of the word, and the fact that he's capitalised it to make it a noun suggests that it was deliberately used.



Aren't you a teacher...? :uhoh:


A proper noun.


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RandomNavigat0r wrote:
naki wrote:
It’s lazy attitudes like this that reflect the prejudice of the viewer more than what’s actually happening on the field.

The last RWC was fantastic, with rugby played at a greater pace and with a higher skill level than ever before. Sure, there could be legitimate complaints about the over reliance from many teams for structured, patterned rugby but there was no little flair on display anyway.

And for as much as there are few secrets on the park anymore with video analysis and shared IP up the arse, there were contrasting styles as well. Witness the exhilarating attack of Japan (and who would have been excited about watching Japan 10 years ago) overcome their pool only to come up against the patient grind of the Yarpies. Or Eddie Jones outflank Hansen and his players utterly swamp what had been the most efficient attacking unit in the game.

The final you called boring was a perfect advert for the necessity of physical dominance and prep in modern rugby, and the English were ultimately seen off with two of the best tries ever seen in a WC final.

Your praise for club rugby, particularly SH club rugby, also makes no sense. There is as wide a gap between the intensity of test rugby and ‘club’ rugby as there has ever been, and in the south it’s now little more than an international audition or a chance for test veterans to get a rest and play themselves into the test season.

In short, you’re way off

You have confirned my point. The best attacking teams didnt make the finals. There tactics simply didnt afford them the opportunity. Even New Zealand resorted to Rassieball/Warrenball in his semi against England. Aaron Smith looked like a complete plonker trying to impersonate the South African and welsh side.

In fact the only side that made the finals and actually played attacking Rugby was England, and there tactics were put to bed by negative play.

Yes NZL played attacking rugby earlier in the comp, but when it mattered they caved and played a style that simply didnt suit them.

If lottery rugby is what you enjoy then fine. But its an abomination to most people.


Tries scored
Pool stages:
SA 27
NZ 22
Oz 20
Ireland 18
England 17
Wales 17

QF:
NZ 7
England 4
SA 3
Wales 2

SF:
England 1
NZ 1
SA 1
Wales 1

Final:
SA 2
England 0

Maybe England just looked like they were playing attacking rugby but wasn't all that effective doing so?


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Ali's Choice wrote:
naki111 wrote:
Ali's Choice wrote:
It's a strange use of the word, and the fact that he's capitalised it to make it a noun suggests that it was deliberately used.



Aren't you a teacher...? :uhoh:


A proper noun.


As you were, detective.


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RandomNavigat0r wrote:
naki wrote:
It’s lazy attitudes like this that reflect the prejudice of the viewer more than what’s actually happening on the field.

The last RWC was fantastic, with rugby played at a greater pace and with a higher skill level than ever before. Sure, there could be legitimate complaints about the over reliance from many teams for structured, patterned rugby but there was no little flair on display anyway.

And for as much as there are few secrets on the park anymore with video analysis and shared IP up the arse, there were contrasting styles as well. Witness the exhilarating attack of Japan (and who would have been excited about watching Japan 10 years ago) overcome their pool only to come up against the patient grind of the Yarpies. Or Eddie Jones outflank Hansen and his players utterly swamp what had been the most efficient attacking unit in the game.

The final you called boring was a perfect advert for the necessity of physical dominance and prep in modern rugby, and the English were ultimately seen off with two of the best tries ever seen in a WC final.

Your praise for club rugby, particularly SH club rugby, also makes no sense. There is as wide a gap between the intensity of test rugby and ‘club’ rugby as there has ever been, and in the south it’s now little more than an international audition or a chance for test veterans to get a rest and play themselves into the test season.

In short, you’re way off

You have confirned my point. The best attacking teams didnt make the finals. There tactics simply didnt afford them the opportunity. Even New Zealand resorted to Rassieball/Warrenball in his semi against England. Aaron Smith looked like a complete plonker trying to impersonate the South African and welsh side.

In fact the only side that made the finals and actually played attacking Rugby was England, and there tactics were put to bed by negative play.

Yes NZL played attacking rugby earlier in the comp, but when it mattered they caved and played a style that simply didnt suit them.

If lottery rugby is what you enjoy then fine. But its an abomination to most people.


The best attacking team doesn't automatically make the Superbowl, Football world Cup, Basketball/hockey gold medal matches etc etc.


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His posts read like a DD multi so think AC may be right


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Here is a good quote that came out of the last world cup semi final from Waynr Barnes


"And the close friend of top England official Wayne Barnes even questioned whether the kicking borefest that blighted the semi-final was also down to Garces, given his refereeing of the breakdown"

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And the close friend of top England official Wayne Barnes even questioned whether the kicking borefest that blighted the semi-final was also down to Garces, given his refereeing of the breakdown.

A late Handre Pollard penalty was the difference as the Springboks set up a Rugby World Cup final meeting with England on Saturday.

While questioning that penalty awarded by Garces for players infringing at a South African driving maul, Debney believed Wales should have been awarded a eminently kickable three-pointer when skipper Alun Wyn Jones was adjudged to be holding on to the ball.

Writing his Rugby World Cup column in the Times, Debney said: "He penalised Wales with 10 minutes to go.

"They were on the 10-metre line and generating some good momentum and he incorrectly penalised Alun Wyn Jones for holding on.

"Garces should have penalised South Africa as Franco Mostert did not move away and prevented Elliot Dee from clearing out Francois Louw. Wales should have had a kickable penalty that would have put them 19-16 up.

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Referee Jerome Garces(Image: Hannah Peters/Getty Images)


"Just a few minutes later, he penalised Wales either for coming in from the side at a maul or collapsing it, but he had been letting this sort of thing go all game. Why give it at that stage of the game?

"He changed the way he refereed in the final 10 minutes and contributed to South Africa winning it, which is not what a referee should do."


In short the guys a complete muppet that actually helped ruin what became the worst World Cup tournament of all time.


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Ali's Choice wrote:
naki wrote:
Ali's Choice wrote:
This is a troll thread, so can posters please respond to it as such.

I'm just trying to figure out who is being trolled, who the OP is targeting.


He’s targeting you, and you just got owned


No he's not.

The use of the word 'Aura' has thrown me a bit. That's almost always used by non-Kiwis to troll NZ Rugby. It's a strange use of the word, and the fact that he's capitalised it to make it a noun suggests that it was deliberately used.

I'm going to go out on a limb, and say that this is a faux NZ poster. A fake login who is pretending to be an AB fan a la Anonymous with his 'Primo Choice' login circa 2006. And in terms of target audience, this thread was started to make NZ Rugby fans look like idiots, and so Northern Hemisphere and South African based posters can laugh at NZ posters for not winning the last RWC.


Every time we meet in a thread I kick your ass and embarss you. Are you sure you want me to flog you again? Or are you gonna fu-ck my face with a biro, bro? As I said in another thread, a penis would be far more intimidating..


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RandomNavigat0r wrote:
a penis would be far more intimidating..


You're the specialist.


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Rather you go and fix the factual inaccuracy in the title of your Nick Mallett daughter thread

You imbecile!


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Every time we meet in a thread I kick your ass and embarss you. Are you sure you want me to flog you again? Or are you gonna fu-ck my face with a biro, bro? As I said in another thread, a penis would be far more intimidating..


:yawn: I don't engage with fake trolls/bots. Honest question, why are you pretending to be an All black fan? Fake logins are so 2005.


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RandomNavigat0r wrote:
Ali's Choice wrote:
naki wrote:
Ali's Choice wrote:
This is a troll thread, so can posters please respond to it as such.

I'm just trying to figure out who is being trolled, who the OP is targeting.


He’s targeting you, and you just got owned


No he's not.

The use of the word 'Aura' has thrown me a bit. That's almost always used by non-Kiwis to troll NZ Rugby. It's a strange use of the word, and the fact that he's capitalised it to make it a noun suggests that it was deliberately used.

I'm going to go out on a limb, and say that this is a faux NZ poster. A fake login who is pretending to be an AB fan a la Anonymous with his 'Primo Choice' login circa 2006. And in terms of target audience, this thread was started to make NZ Rugby fans look like idiots, and so Northern Hemisphere and South African based posters can laugh at NZ posters for not winning the last RWC.


Every time we meet in a thread I kick your ass and embarss you. Are you sure you want me to flog you again? Or are you gonna fu-ck my face with a biro, bro? As I said in another thread, a penis would be far more intimidating..


Screams the child...


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I love rugby, probably more than ever. As I'm waiting for Super Rugby to start, I've really enjoyed watching the European rugby.


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Thought this might be from a Quins fan until I opened the thread.


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Thought this might be from a Quins fan until I opened the thread.

Not possible. There's nothing boring about watching Quins, it's heart in mouth stuff the whole time along with "what new and creative ways can we come up with to fudge up"


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Ali's Choice wrote:
RandomNavigat0r wrote:
Every time we meet in a thread I kick your ass and embarss you. Are you sure you want me to flog you again? Or are you gonna fu-ck my face with a biro, bro? As I said in another thread, a penis would be far more intimidating..


:yawn: I don't engage with fake trolls/bots. Honest question, why are you pretending to be an All black fan? Fake logins are so 2005.

Coming from a man that posts like a drunk raging fu'cktard. Youre a flash in the pan troll that hangs on one board so you dont get bullied around like a queensland whore. You wouldnt fire a shot on reddit, you would be passed around like a piece of meat being fu'cked in the face by way more horrible things than a f**king biro :lol: you complete imbecile. I note you have a small following of kiwis that worship you like your their body guard intimidating all that disagree with their narrative. Its cute, i love how people gather in their little groups together on these types of message boards so they can circle jerk till the sun rises. I do feel for you though, just a little bit, its kinda sad but hillarious that you passionatly live your life through this board, this is probably the only placed where your accepted in this society, and if you actually are a teacher god-fucking help this world! Its madder than I actually thought.


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Not reading any of his posts cause there all novel length and dull looking.

Who's multi is this do we think?


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naki wrote:
Also there is and should not be an automatic reward for whomever plays the most “attacking” rugby. Teams that play the most intelligent rugby should, and usually do, get the reward. As was the case in this RWC


Agreed. But Japan, New Zealand, England, Australia, Fiji, Uruguay, Scotland. We where blessed with the largest number the best attacking teams in RWC history.

Also Wales haven't played Warrenball for a while.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 15, 2020 2:37 pm 
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Every time we meet in a thread I kick your ass and embarss you. Are you sure you want me to flog you again? Or are you gonna fu-ck my face with a biro, bro? As I said in another thread, a penis would be far more intimidating..


:yawn: I don't engage with fake trolls/bots. Honest question, why are you pretending to be an All black fan? Fake logins are so 2005.

Coming from a man that posts like a drunk raging fu'cktard. Youre a flash in the pan troll that hangs on one board so you dont get bullied around like a queensland whore. You wouldnt fire a shot on reddit, you would be passed around like a piece of meat being fu'cked in the face by way more horrible things than a f**king biro :lol: you complete imbecile. I note you have a small following of kiwis that worship you like your their body guard intimidating all that disagree with their narrative. Its cute, i love how people gather in their little groups together on these types of message boards so they can circle jerk till the sun rises. I do feel for you though, just a little bit, its kinda sad but hillarious that you passionatly live your life through this board, this is probably the only placed where your accepted in this society, and if you actually are a teacher god-fucking help this world! Its madder than I actually thought.


This has really made my afternoon. Reminds me of the halcyon days of DAC being mental or Dozy melting down. Good times for the totally insane.


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I thought the Japan WC was excellent, aside from the cancellations. The quality of the rugby was great.

South Africa were superb in the final - it was disappointing, from an English perspective, but you can't complain when you lose to a side that played so well.


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I thought the Japan WC was excellent, aside from the cancellations. The quality of the rugby was great.

South Africa were superb in the final - it was disappointing, from an English perspective, but you can't complain when you lose to a side that played so well.

The quality of the reffing was horseshit. One of the worst refs of the last 5 or so years got the top gig and was an embarassment throughout the tournament. Not sure how the fuc'k that happens.

All the best attacking sides had no chance with such a negative ref that dominated all the key games on one side. Garces.

Also the amount of red cards totally spoiled the tournament and so many games. Most were totally pathetic and should never have been red.

Then we had the cancellations instead of reschedules. 2 massive games. NZL vs Italy was cancelled when Italy could have theoretically qualified.

Then England vs France, one of the biggest ever pool games, and also pool decider, again gets cancelled.

Then the attempt to send Scotland home so they could automatically get Japan through if it was for Scotlands threat to sue just reeked of a tournament that completly lost its integrity. It was a complete clusterfuck


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I'm going to feed the troll with a bit of evidence. I've been doing analysis of late as my old man attitude rages at players taking the ball standing still.

On average, in the professional club matches I analysed, about half of every phase sees a forward (mostly) and even a back standing still. In the matches I looked there were upwards of 80 times the ball was passed from a ruck, 30 odd times it was a forward standing still who either lost ground or just made the gain line. The times a static forward got over the gainline were in single digits and most of those, one could argue, his mates latched on before contact and flying wedged him over the ball.

I felt the comments about wars of attrition apply (to my philosophy on rugby anyway)... long periods of boredom spiked by short periods of intense action.


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Not reading any of his posts cause there all novel length and dull looking.

Who's multi is this do we think?


The uni-baller


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Unfair verging on disrepectful. He's had a go at lotteries, watched rugby, lives among abominations and has glimpsed people from afar.


That last bit is superb :lol: :thumbup:


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 16, 2020 4:37 pm 
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Not reading any of his posts cause there all novel length and dull looking.

Who's multi is this do we think?


The uni-baller


Nah, he re-emerged as Screech a couple of days ago. You know it's him from the amount of sickening Sarries worship and trying to steer any rugby topic onto how amazing they are.


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I'm going to feed the troll with a bit of evidence. I've been doing analysis of late as my old man attitude rages at players taking the ball standing still.

On average, in the professional club matches I analysed, about half of every phase sees a forward (mostly) and even a back standing still. In the matches I looked there were upwards of 80 times the ball was passed from a ruck, 30 odd times it was a forward standing still who either lost ground or just made the gain line. The times a static forward got over the gainline were in single digits and most of those, one could argue, his mates latched on before contact and flying wedged him over the ball.

I felt the comments about wars of attrition apply (to my philosophy on rugby anyway)... long periods of boredom spiked by short periods of intense action.



Where are the 'new' ways to play coming from? In the RWC, Japan were rightly lauded as bringing a new style but really they were just very highly skilled at fundamentals, principally: passing in front/timing acceleration onto the pass, line depth and fast rucks. It looks great but the problem with that style is that it is both high-risk and open to the counter-attack. The problem I see with where the game is headed is that the grind pick-and-go style negates nearly all of the risk whilst requiring lower skill levels but the better win returns. If you are a coach - it is a no-brainer. As a spectator, it is a disaster.


We don't need new ways to play we need:
- the offside line to be better policed
- rucks to not be a mess where defenders have license to illegally slow down ball while the ref coaches them.

Quicker, cleaner ball would go a long way to preventing the kind of defence that necessitates so much short ranged colliding until someone makes a mistake and there's a 30m gain.


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