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Re: NBA season 2017/18 - general discussion

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 4:58 am
by Marshall Banana
That game was over very early.

Steve did finish with 42 minutes... and was dying by the end of it.

Great game by him - but the Thunder just don't have the cattle to compete. Too many scrubs. No Robes to slow their wings down.

Cavs were good. I loved their trades, and they've got Bron - he helps. Love to come back... They really are stacked offensively.

Re: NBA season 2017/18 - general discussion

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 5:18 am
by Smee
Now the dust has settled where does the Lakers trades from last week leave them in their 2018 offseason pursuit of Lebron? Off top helping the Cavs remake their roster doesnt seem too smart when they were in such a rut.

Can't say Ive watched many Laker games this season to know where they are at.... Obviously IT is an expiring contract but were Nance and Clarkson not an important part of their core?

Re: NBA season 2017/18 - general discussion

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 5:22 am
by Jay Cee Gee
Smee wrote:Now the dust has settled where does the Lakers trades from last week leave them in their 2018 offseason pursuit of Lebron? Off top helping the Cavs remake their roster doesnt seem too smart when they were in such a rut.

Can't say Ive watched many Laker games this season to know where they are at.... Obviously IT is an expiring contract but were Nance and Clarkson not an important part of their core?
The Lakers have the cap room to offer 2 max contracts to free agents now (assuming they don't resign Thomas) and I guess they figure they'd need someone else (PG being the obvious choice) to sign in order to make it a halfway desirable destination for LeBron.

But the Cavs did well out of that - they've made it so James is more likely to stay and softened the blow if he does leave.

Re: NBA season 2017/18 - general discussion

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 8:37 am
by Tehui
Smee wrote:Now the dust has settled where does the Lakers trades from last week leave them in their 2018 offseason pursuit of Lebron? Off top helping the Cavs remake their roster doesnt seem too smart when they were in such a rut.

Can't say Ive watched many Laker games this season to know where they are at.... Obviously IT is an expiring contract but were Nance and Clarkson not an important part of their core?
I've watched a lot of Lakers game this year. They've been a fun team to watch. Prior to the trade, the Lakers had a lot of young talent but no veterans to saddle beside them and bring them through.

Clarkson being traded was predicted a few weeks ago. Here's an analysis from a few weeks ago of the Lakers young roster.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGcoVa5JCoE&t=339s

Re: NBA season 2017/18 - general discussion

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 8:39 am
by Tehui
It's only been two games, but the Cavs 'new look' team look very fluid. I still want to see how they go over a 10 game stretch before anointing them as strong favourites to come out of the East.

Re: NBA season 2017/18 - general discussion

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 10:46 am
by jamesfreeman
Even before the trades I had Cavs as favs in the East as I will believe it when I see it in regards to lebron losing a 7 games series in the East. Based on their demolition job on the Celtics and playing a competent defense against OKC (as opposed to last time) convinces me the Cavs ship has been re steadied, how they chug along will remain to be seen but I definitely expect them to dominate the east yet again and that soley due to them having lebron still. Whether they are real contenders for a championship remains to be seen.

Doesn't change the fact that lebron and Dan Gilbert still have a toxic and dysfunctional relationship. Be interesting to see how things pan out in the off season, no way lebron will stay at cavs in my opinion and that due to the relatuonship.

Warriors still the favourites overall let alone in the west, but at least some interesting dynamics now leading into playoffs so will be some fun watching. I think rockets will push the warriors barring another Harden melt down when pressure on but am still not convinced rockets will beat warriors. I expect warriors defense will shut them down and rattle them and provoke forced errors.

Has been good to see the new roster at the cavs. I want to see how they handle things when under pressure but based on their workrate and enthusiasm it is a good turn around in defense.

Re: NBA season 2017/18 - general discussion

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 1:49 pm
by Bowens
OKC had four starters with 20+ pts, still whooped em!

Re: NBA season 2017/18 - general discussion

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 4:28 pm
by Tehui
Bowens wrote:OKC had four starters with 20+ pts, still whooped em!
OKC's 3 point shooting is one of the areas that let's them down regularly. OKC is currently 26th in the league in 3 point percentage (34.9%) and yet 12th (29.5) at 3 point attempts.

Re: NBA season 2017/18 - general discussion

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 7:38 am
by Jay Cee Gee
Tehui wrote:
Bowens wrote:OKC had four starters with 20+ pts, still whooped em!
OKC's 3 point shooting is one of the areas that let's them down regularly. OKC is currently 26th in the league in 3 point percentage (34.9%) and yet 12th (29.5) at 3 point attempts.
PG's been on fire from 3 recently, but overall they struggle. Scrappy win today vs Memphis - same old problems, couldn't defend the 3 at all. I think the Grizzlies shot over 50% from 3.

Big win for the Blazers, beat the Warriors despite 50 points from KD. Houston will be happier than anyone though, cause they're now top seed in the West & overall.

Re: NBA season 2017/18 - general discussion

Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 6:09 am
by Smee
Jay Cee Gee wrote: But the Cavs did well out of that - they've made it so James is more likely to stay and softened the blow if he does leave.
Agreed, Cavs have cleaned house and covered their bases.

Not sure if anyone was watching the Nuggets-Bucks game earlier but Jokic was ridiculous, had a first half triple double. Fastest in NBA history apparently. I've developed a soft spot for this Nuggets team..... Love their fast paced playing style and always thought Malone got a raw deal with the Kings. Likeable, fun, under the radar team imo.

Re: NBA season 2017/18 - general discussion

Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 7:47 am
by vintage_cox
Smee wrote:Not sure if anyone was watching the Nuggets-Bucks game earlier but Jokic was ridiculous, had a first half triple double. Fastest in NBA history apparently. I've developed a soft spot for this Nuggets team..... Love their fast paced playing style and always thought Malone got a raw deal with the Kings. Likeable, fun, under the radar team imo.
I like them. They've done damn well (or got super lucky) to rebuild over the last few years without ever tanking

Jokic, Harris and Murray are a pretty good young core to build around considering they were drafted 41st, 19th and 7th respectively (they whiffed on Mudiay but that draft was shit)

Re: NBA season 2017/18 - general discussion

Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 11:31 am
by Marshall Banana
I watch a lot of the Northwest division - the Thunder are in it, and the timezone is often preferable (late games). It's been wild. All 5 teams could make the playoffs yet.

The Nuggets are super fun to watch b/c they can tear teams apart, but also can't really defend for shit.

Top 5 offense, but bottom 5 defence, these last 15 games. 22nd ranked defence on the season.

A healthy Millsap will help them enormously - if they can reintegrate him back into the side quickly before the playoffs, should they make them.

Their salary cap situation moving forward is going to be interesting as well, to say the least.

Anyway, they're a top 3 team on my entertainment scale:

1. Thunder (they also rank last)
2. Philly
3. Denver

Re: NBA season 2017/18 - general discussion

Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 12:24 am
by Marshall Banana
Pop just said Kawhi is likely done for the season.

Not a huge surprise - but obviously sucks hard.

Injuries have killed this season.

Re: NBA season 2017/18 - general discussion

Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 6:53 am
by Smee
Yeah, its miserable news, basically an entire season of a players prime lost to injury, Kawhi was only just now coming into his element....... This was supposed to be his year. :frown:

Wonder how many elite players have essentially lost an entire season to injury and came back how they left off? I know Jordan had to sit out his 2nd or 3rd season but him aside Im guessing not many.

Re: NBA season 2017/18 - general discussion

Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 7:01 am
by Tehui
I'm just reading the news about Louisville being stripped of their NCAA basketball title from a few years ago - daaamn!

Re: NBA season 2017/18 - general discussion

Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 7:04 am
by Jay Cee Gee
Smee wrote:Yeah, its miserable news, basically an entire season of a players prime lost to injury, Kawhi was only just now coming into his element....... This was supposed to be his year. :frown:

Wonder how many elite players have essentially lost an entire season to injury and came back how they left off? I know Jordan had to sit out his 2nd or 3rd season but him aside Im guessing not many.
Paul George missed a season with that leg break and came back as good as ever.

Re: NBA season 2017/18 - general discussion

Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 7:07 am
by Tehui
Jay Cee Gee wrote:
Smee wrote:Yeah, its miserable news, basically an entire season of a players prime lost to injury, Kawhi was only just now coming into his element....... This was supposed to be his year. :frown:

Wonder how many elite players have essentially lost an entire season to injury and came back how they left off? I know Jordan had to sit out his 2nd or 3rd season but him aside Im guessing not many.
Paul George missed a season with that leg break and came back as good as ever.
I think Kevin Durant was shut down for half a season because of foot issues too.

Re: NBA season 2017/18 - general discussion

Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2018 5:03 am
by Flyin Ryan
Tehui wrote:I'm just reading the news about Louisville being stripped of their NCAA basketball title from a few years ago - daaamn!
This news has all come out in the last 24 hours.

https://sports.yahoo.com/exclusive-fede ... 38484.html

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basket ... estigation

Re: NBA season 2017/18 - general discussion

Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2018 5:55 am
by Marshall Banana
More money for the G-League, please.

Cut colleges out. The greedy plums.

Re: NBA season 2017/18 - general discussion

Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2018 11:44 pm
by Marshall Banana
Shams:
Minnesota’s Jimmy Butler has a meniscus tear in his right knee and is determining treatment options, league sources tell Yahoo.
He missed games last month due to a right knee issue... and now this.

Thibs gonna Thibs? :uhoh:

I think he'll opt for surgery - therefore he's likely done for the season.

Just unreal all these injuries.

Re: NBA season 2017/18 - general discussion

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 12:34 am
by Tehui
I'm looking forward to seeing the OKC v Warriors game in a few hours. Can the Thunder make it 3 from 3 against them this season, or will the Warriors smoke them?

Re: NBA season 2017/18 - general discussion

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 12:53 am
by vintage_cox
^ me too


AD and Jrue over the last 4 games (4 wins):
66 Pts (42 & 24)
20 Reb
11 Ass
6 Stl
3 Blk
FG% 0.541
3P% 0.419
FT% 0.842

That's sustainable right?? Who needs Boogie

Also, I realise he gets no exposure in the smallest market, but if Jrue doesn't get some All-Defence votes this year I'll be really cheesed off. He's been clutch on both ends of the court lately too (it's great to finally have him at 100%, although that is seriously tempting the mockers this season...)

Re: NBA season 2017/18 - general discussion

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 12:56 am
by Tehui
Geez, I just had a look at where the Pelicans are sitting on the table, and I note that there are only 4 1/2 games between 3rd and 10th places on the Western Conference.

Re: NBA season 2017/18 - general discussion

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 1:04 am
by fonzeee
Marshall Banana wrote:Shams:
Minnesota’s Jimmy Butler has a meniscus tear in his right knee and is determining treatment options, league sources tell Yahoo.
He missed games last month due to a right knee issue... and now this.

Thibs gonna Thibs? :uhoh:

I think he'll opt for surgery - therefore he's likely done for the season.

Just unreal all these injuries.
If the NBA was smart (though to be fair they're probably the best ran league in America at the moment), they would seriously consider cutting back on the number of games.

Other leagues aren't nearly as physically demanding, their games are 8 minutes shorter, and yet most elite players overseas are topping out at 60-70 games a year. Sergio Llull played a career high 1,861 minutes in 2013-14 (domestic and Euroleague only, not counting time spent with the Spanish national team); Jimmy Butler has played more than 2,000 minutes every season of his career after his rookie year (not counting playoffs and national team duty).

As a side note, Lebron (counting playoffs) has had close to 4,000 multiple times :shock:

Re: NBA season 2017/18 - general discussion

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 1:19 am
by vintage_cox
Tehui wrote:Geez, I just had a look at where the Pelicans are sitting on the table, and I note that there are only 4 1/2 games between 3rd and 10th places on the Western Conference.
Yea I always just compare the L column, as they haven't played the same number of games, and everyone is pretty much even with 26 losses

It's been horribly close all season. The Wolves got some separation as they played a bunch more games, now everyone is catching up again. The Jazz and Clippers need to just calm down and embrace the tank

Re: NBA season 2017/18 - general discussion

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 1:30 am
by vintage_cox
and as much as I prefer OKC to GS, I need to see the Thunder notch up that 27th L today

The Jazz, Blazers, Nuggets have all had frustrating wins over the Warriors just before the All-Star break. I need them racking up those L's

Re: NBA season 2017/18 - general discussion

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 2:20 am
by Marshall Banana
The Thunder are about to get wrecked.

But Scotland beat England, so I'm good. :smug:

Re: NBA season 2017/18 - general discussion

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 2:24 am
by Marshall Banana
fonzeee wrote:
Marshall Banana wrote:Shams:
Minnesota’s Jimmy Butler has a meniscus tear in his right knee and is determining treatment options, league sources tell Yahoo.
He missed games last month due to a right knee issue... and now this.

Thibs gonna Thibs? :uhoh:

I think he'll opt for surgery - therefore he's likely done for the season.

Just unreal all these injuries.
If the NBA was smart (though to be fair they're probably the best ran league in America at the moment), they would seriously consider cutting back on the number of games.

Other leagues aren't nearly as physically demanding, their games are 8 minutes shorter, and yet most elite players overseas are topping out at 60-70 games a year. Sergio Llull played a career high 1,861 minutes in 2013-14 (domestic and Euroleague only, not counting time spent with the Spanish national team); Jimmy Butler has played more than 2,000 minutes every season of his career after his rookie year (not counting playoffs and national team duty).

As a side note, Lebron (counting playoffs) has had close to 4,000 multiple times :shock:
Bron is a cyborg - he doesn't count.

I agree that the NBA should cut down on games. 65 feels about right. However, that means a lot less money, so it's going to take awhile for any real change to occur...

And by "awhile" I really mean years upon years down the line.

Re: NBA season 2017/18 - general discussion

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 3:09 am
by fonzeee
Yea, somewhere in the mid/lower-60s sounds nice...maybe offset the drop in "content" by adding a few teams: maybe bring back the Sonics, put a team in Louisville or Kansas City ....or St. Louis....

Re: NBA season 2017/18 - general discussion

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 3:42 am
by Dubya Howard
Westbrook and George are killing OKc. They should be up by 20’but instead down by 5.

Re: NBA season 2017/18 - general discussion

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 4:43 am
by Tehui
Well that was an awful game to watch if you support OKC. Westbrook and George couldn't shoot a lick tonight.

Re: NBA season 2017/18 - general discussion

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 4:54 am
by Marshall Banana
Ah well.

Russ can't shoot 21 points in a quarter every game...

Him, and PG, obviously beyond awful. Steve was very good.

Suns up on the Blazers in the 4th - so there's hope yet to get a good result...

Re: NBA season 2017/18 - general discussion

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 5:10 am
by Marshall Banana
Also, Zaza is a cunt:

https://twitter.com/HeyItsKermit_/statu ... 5249242112

He does this type of cheap shit all the time (ask Kawhi). The guy needs to be hit by a bus already.

Re: NBA season 2017/18 - general discussion

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 5:16 am
by vintage_cox
^ yeah looks dodgy



Can't believe the Suns got Payton for nothing. I'd have him over Rondo any day of the week

Re: NBA season 2017/18 - general discussion

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 5:35 am
by Marshall Banana
Payton's had a good season. He can play.

A 2nd for him is a steal - even with his expiring contract.

Blazers still won, tho... Thunder could really miss the playoffs... if Melo opts out then it's worth missing the playoffs for. PG ain't staying regardless.


As for Zaza? Kyrie is also fed-up with his shit:

Image

Re: NBA season 2017/18 - general discussion

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 6:11 am
by Tehui
Skip Bayless refers to him as Zaza Pa-cheap shot.

Re: NBA season 2017/18 - general discussion

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 8:18 am
by The Native
I didn't think the GSW could be any more dislikeable. Then that happens.

Re: NBA season 2017/18 - general discussion

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 11:48 pm
by vintage_cox
Pels win ! what a game! Rondo with a clutch 3 :lol: ! I'm dead

Re: NBA season 2017/18 - general discussion

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 11:52 pm
by Marshall Banana
vc,

Your Pels win again! In OT again!

Giannis won't be a top 5 player until he learns how to shoot...

Spurs are grinding out a win in Cleveland. Pop being Pop.

It's time for me to bookmark this link: http://www.tankathon.com/

Re: NBA season 2017/18 - general discussion

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 11:55 pm
by Marshall Banana
vintage_cox wrote:Pels win ! what a game! Rondo with a clutch 3 :lol: ! I'm dead
You beat me to it!

Here it is: https://twitter.com/NBA/status/967889789872689152

:lol:

Bucks, and their fans, knew it was over then...