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PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 9:33 am 
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Lad from birmingham uni talking on r4 right now talking about a test they're doing on concussion.

Looks like they can have a (fairly) instant saliva test which although won't be able to judge immediately, can diagnose it within 24 hrs so can manage return to training/play.

How the fûck can that work????


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 Post subject: Re: Concussion
PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 9:40 am 
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The brian fluid must be leaking out


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 Post subject: Re: Concussion
PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 9:41 am 
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happyhooker wrote:
Lad from birmingham uni talking on r4 right now talking about a test they're doing on concussion.

Looks like they can have a (fairly) instant saliva test which although won't be able to judge immediately, can diagnose it within 24 hrs so can manage return to training/play.

How the fûck can that work????

There is a good explanation in Neurology Times.
Google concussion saliva test.


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 Post subject: Re: Concussion
PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 9:49 am 
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c69 wrote:
happyhooker wrote:
Lad from birmingham uni talking on r4 right now talking about a test they're doing on concussion.

Looks like they can have a (fairly) instant saliva test which although won't be able to judge immediately, can diagnose it within 24 hrs so can manage return to training/play.

How the fûck can that work????

There is a good explanation in Neurology Times.
Google concussion saliva test.

Oh, I missed my copy this week :uhoh:


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 Post subject: Re: Concussion
PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 9:51 am 
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this one?

http://www.neurologytimes.com/tbi/saliv ... -diagnosis

that's awesome if it works as advertised.


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 Post subject: Re: Concussion
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happyhooker wrote:
c69 wrote:
happyhooker wrote:
Lad from birmingham uni talking on r4 right now talking about a test they're doing on concussion.

Looks like they can have a (fairly) instant saliva test which although won't be able to judge immediately, can diagnose it within 24 hrs so can manage return to training/play.

How the fûck can that work????

There is a good explanation in Neurology Times.
Google concussion saliva test.

Oh, I missed my copy this week :uhoh:

Never miss neurology times it's a cracking read.
Thank me later, the article is a fairly easy read.


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 Post subject: Re: Concussion
PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:21 am 
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Premier League players taking part in concussion study this season

Premier League footballers are taking part in a "ground-breaking" new concussion study this season that could lead to pitch-side diagnosis.

The study includes saliva and urine samples being taken from players with head injuries and uninjured 'control' players by club doctors after matches.

The samples are then put through a new test by University of Birmingham medics who are running the study.

It is hoped this will in time be done pitch-side using a handheld device.

"Having a black and white test that gives you a clear answer that's understandable to everyone - medical staff, players, coaches - is the holy grail," Dr Patrick O'Halloran, sports concussion research fellow at the University of Birmingham and academy doctor at Wolves, told BBC Sport.

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The team are developing a handheld device to conduct the test during a match and which will assist in concussion diagnosis and work out when those affected can return to play across sport.

"There will be a drop of saliva going on a chip and the chip is then inserted into a device, with the results sent to a mobile phone or tablet and the doctor would be able to see and interpret the results, possibly within a minute or two," said Prof Belli.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/46900052


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 Post subject: Re: Concussion
PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2019 10:06 am 
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What are the odds that every player is mildly concussed if the test is sensitive?


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 Post subject: Re: Concussion
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DragsterDriver wrote:
What are the odds that every player is mildly concussed if the test is sensitive?

The odds zero


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 Post subject: Re: Concussion
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Yer Man wrote:
The brian fluid must be leaking out


Certainly did for Jamie Roberts:

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“Then, at the following phase, I was under the posts. I dipped my head and my nose started bleeding and I could taste a stream of salt water down the back of my throat.

“I knew straight away it was cerebral brain fluid. You are taught about the salty taste as a medical student.


https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rug ... y-13881784


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 Post subject: Re: Concussion
PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2019 10:58 am 
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Jeff the Bear wrote:
Yer Man wrote:
The brian fluid must be leaking out


Certainly did for Jamie Roberts:

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“Then, at the following phase, I was under the posts. I dipped my head and my nose started bleeding and I could taste a stream of salt water down the back of my throat.

“I knew straight away it was cerebral brain fluid. You are taught about the salty taste as a medical student.


https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rug ... y-13881784

Ugh! But maybe not so determinative if the blow to the scone and bloody nose wer cause by being dumped headfirst and hard in the surf...


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 Post subject: Re: Concussion
PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2019 12:11 pm 
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c69 wrote:
DragsterDriver wrote:
What are the odds that every player is mildly concussed if the test is sensitive?

The odds zero


We don’t believe in experts around here.


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