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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 11:08 am 
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Nolanator wrote:
Is Stubbs a host? That interaction confused me (even more!). I thought he could just be using that language in a metaphorical sense, rather than literally talking about his core drives etc.
I suppose it being left unspecified is intentional.


Yeah, I reckon the core drives stuff was like a "I know you're a host so let me be really clear about it for the viewers". Nothing there for definite, but stuff to pique interest in a season 3.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 11:19 am 
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For me the implication from the Stubbs on the beach line was that he was indeed a host but it wasn't explicit.

There is a serious bang of Lost or Fringe coming off the way this is developing, and not in a good way. There were several broad themes from S1 and S2 that could developed into something properly good but instead there was a little bit of a everything mashed together and it got a bit incoherent towards the end as it jumped from theme to theme. Is it ultimately about the illusion of human love, or humanity, or the conciousness, or the concept of franchise and free will, or the commercialisation of our individuality by sinister corporations, or a Dallas style rise and fall of a family business? It's all those baby!

Episode 8, about Akecheta of the Ghost Nation and his rise to conciousness, was properly excellent television and there were a couple other decent episodes but it was hard slog at times.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 11:30 am 
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The whole premise went to shit for me in season 2 - the original story about the AI hosts becoming fully sentient was fairly interesting.

The Season 2 reveal that the park is simply a way of copying then verifying the guests (and the hosts rise to sentience being fairly incidental) is pretty underwhelming really and does not make sense in so far as there are probably far easier, more comprehensive and less expensive ways of testing the 'copy'.

Also I do not think most humans would view the ability of a sophisticated simulation of themselves to continue living after their own death as any kind of immortality so that line falls to pieces.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 11:49 am 
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tc27 wrote:
The whole premise went to shit for me in season 2 - the original story about the AI hosts becoming fully sentient was fairly interesting.

The Season 2 reveal that the park is simply a way of copying then verifying the guests (and the hosts rise to sentience being fairly incidental) is pretty underwhelming really and does not make sense in so far as there are probably far easier, more comprehensive and less expensive ways of testing the 'copy'.

Also I do not think most humans would view the ability of a sophisticated simulation of themselves to continue living after their own death as any kind of immortality so that line falls to pieces.


I don't think the rest of humanity are aware that they've been copied. It was a couple of rich mens dream to immortalise themselves in this way, but they gathered the other data/humans etc, to perfect the process. It's also going very much a Zuckerberg wet dream in terms of advertising targeting etc.

I think the hosts rise to sentience wasn't completely incidental, Arnold at first, and later Ford, both seemed to be driving for it and protecting the best potential hosts.


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PostPosted: Mon May 20, 2019 10:23 am 
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Season 3 trailer.

Interesting new casting and story direction.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deSUQ7mZfWk&feature=youtu.be


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