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https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... -suffering

Yes they now target Emoji's.

Those evil yellow bastards

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We need to discuss the political significance of emoji. Not just any emoji, but the worst emoji of all. That obnoxious, chortling little yellow dickhead – bulbous, cartoonish tears streaming down its face – which seems to have taken over social media in recent months.

Some have suggested that the frog face is the worst emoji, because of its recent association with the so-called alt-right (neo-Nazi nerds, in layman’s terms) who adopted it as a mascot after the Southern Poverty Law Center declared the Pepe the frog meme a symbol of hate. These people are wrong. While it’s true that this new fascist connection has irreparably tainted the previously innocent amphibian character, it’s still not as intrinsically offensive as the “crying laughing” or “tears of joy” face that is the subject of my ire.

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Emoji is a complex and ambiguous language. If your mum texts you the aubergine, for instance, it might mean that she wants you to pick up the ingredients for a moussaka. This is less likely to be the case if you receive a similar message from a lover or spouse.

Still, there’s something about this particular character – with its broad, cackling grin and the perfomatively prominent tears of mirth – that just feels inherently mocking and cruel. When I found out that the design had been used to create balaclavas, my immediate thought was: “At least we know what They’ll be wearing when They come.” Even in cases where the emoji user’s meaning seems entirely innocent, it still provokes a visceral reaction in me that I’d struggle to overstate.

It almost certainly has less to do with the actual nature of that graphic than the scenarios in which I most commonly encounter it. Most often, the sender is gloating about something or other. In many cases, the topic that appears to have amused them is the sort of thing you’d hope any empathetic, reasonable person would find unconscionably horrific. Deaths of refugees who were desperately attempting to cross the Mediterranean in a rickety, overfilled boat entirely unfit for such a journey. Reports of a rise in hate crime in the immediate aftermath of the Brexit vote. Particularly horrendous benefit sanction case studies. Trump’s threats to create a register of Muslims living in the US, to deport millions of primarily Latino US residents and to defund Planned Parenthood.

However, I’ve come to realise that the specific nature of the horror frequently isn’t the primary reason for the glee. It takes a certain level of callous disregard to respond to human suffering in such a manner, but the real target of derision is most often People Like Me. That is, socially liberal, middle-class do-gooders piously informing people that they should care about these various issues. In the words of Rage Against the Machine, the message being conveyed is clear: “fudge you, I won’t do what you tell me.”

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‘When I look at its yellow face 😂, I see the detestable, carefree smirks of Nigel Farage and Boris Johnson as they merrily dance through the current chaos.’ Photograph: Amer Ghazzal/Rex/Shutterstock
The idea of class-based condescension definitely factors in, but it’s the “liberal” bit that’s really key. People who respond to expressions of upset or anger about social injustice with the crying-laughing emoji are as likely to be affluent golf club members from Surrey as disillusioned jobseekers from my home city of Sheffield. Different people have different reasons for ending up on one side or another, but what’s basically happening right now is a culture war. And that chuckling, mocking emoji? They’re using it to remind us that they’re winning.

When I look at its yellow face, I see the detestable, carefree smirks of Nigel Farage and Boris Johnson as they merrily dance through the current chaos – hop, skip and jumping over the cracks in society they’ve helped drive deeper and wider, safe in the knowledge they’ll personally be just fine no matter what.


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Not everyone who finds the situation hilarious has that same level of insulation, though. Many of those currently chortling away could find their personal circumstances significantly deteriorate as a result of decisions taken by the politicians they support.

That’s not really the point, though. Personally benefiting is far less of a priority than ensuring that the appropriate people are losing. Call it spite, or even just a desire to exert some sort of influence on the world because many of these people have felt powerless for a very long time. In the UK, in elite rhetoric if not always in policy, the liberal social and economic consensus has held for almost as long as I’ve been alive. Though we disagree heavily on the details, I empathise with the yearning to bring about some sort of change. It’s undeniable that the ability to affect things much feel thrilling, even if the specific nature of your influence mainly involves just totally f**king stuff up.

Long stretches of political inertia also lend a sense of unreality to the whole thing. “Sure, it kind of feels like we’re in control now, but is it possible that what I do can really make a difference?” I expect that for many it still feels like an enormous game. I could get into Baudrillard’s theory of hyperreality right now – further signalling my membership of the despised, philosophy-reading “liberal elite” – but even without modern technology the emotional impulse might be similar.

The internet has at least made it easier for people to connect with each other and feel part of something ... which sounds great, until you realise what it is that many of them seem to want to be a part of. What’s more, without it I would never have to see that sniggering yellow bastard ever again.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2016 7:08 pm 
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I wonder what snowflake Abi would think of this little yellow guy?: :lol:


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She's probably having an aneurysm looking at the online response


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2016 8:42 pm 
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😂

It's one of my favourite ones.


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I didn't know what the aubergine emoji meant until now. :blush:


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I think the peak Guardian was the day after Trump won the election. I previously refused to believe the paper exclusively employed spoilt children, but there it all was, one hissy fit after another and the backlash against social media when they had spent years saying how great and powerful it was giving people a voice was delicious. Helped me get over the shock of Trump winning with loads of laughs :lol:


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2016 4:26 pm 
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A new entrant

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... ?CMP=fb_gu

Summary: Man listens to opposing argument and horrifies himself by finding it compelling. Promises never to do it again.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2016 4:27 pm 
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These are all CiF, right?


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2016 4:31 pm 
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The irony of this appearing in the Guardian will be not be lost on many.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... -breitbart


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Stars burn the brightest just before they die...


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2016 4:35 pm 
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A new entrant

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... ?CMP=fb_gu

Summary: Man listens to opposing argument and horrifies himself by finding it compelling. Promises never to do it again.
I suspect he would be far happier if he just carried on listening to Sam and Milo to be honest with you.


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zzzz wrote:
A new entrant

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... ?CMP=fb_gu

Summary: Man listens to opposing argument and horrifies himself by finding it compelling. Promises never to do it again.
I suspect he would be far happier if he just carried on listening to Sam and Milo to be honest with you.



I can't imagine either of them being overly concerned about the challenge he represents to their views about beta male cucks.


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On every 2nd comment. Glad to see the Guardian remains than Bastian of loony lefty SJW commentary. :lol: :lol:

Aren't they all but bankrupt now anyway?


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On every 2nd comment. Glad to see the Guardian remains than Bastian of loony lefty SJW commentary. :lol: :lol:

Aren't they all but bankrupt now anyway?

They're asking for £50 donations from readers to keep going, can't be a good sign


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On every 2nd comment. Glad to see the Guardian remains than Bastian of loony lefty SJW commentary. :lol: :lol:

Aren't they all but bankrupt now anyway?

They're asking for £50 donations from readers to keep going, can't be a good sign


Isn't that the entire point of Comment is Free, they get content but don't have to pay a journalist for it?


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On every 2nd comment. Glad to see the Guardian remains than Bastian of loony lefty SJW commentary. :lol: :lol:

Aren't they all but bankrupt now anyway?

They're asking for £50 donations from readers to keep going, can't be a good sign


Isn't that the entire point of Comment is Free, they get content but don't have to pay a journalist for it?


Well it's certainly not free if they want £50 for it! Please offer your opinion on something. Now pay us £50!


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On every 2nd comment. Glad to see the Guardian remains than Bastian of loony lefty SJW commentary. :lol: :lol:

Aren't they all but bankrupt now anyway?


than Bastian indeed


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On every 2nd comment. Glad to see the Guardian remains than Bastian of loony lefty SJW commentary. :lol: :lol:

Aren't they all but bankrupt now anyway?

They're asking for £50 donations from readers to keep going, can't be a good sign



Asking lefties for money ? Pointless I'd have thought.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2016 7:43 pm 
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Re the OP, it's true that that emoji is often appended to plum posts of one kind or another, but I'm not sure it's probably worth 2000 words to point that out.

I'm a staunch PRist when it comes to smilies, the world would be a much better place if the only smilies allowed were the original PR ones.


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On every 2nd comment. Glad to see the Guardian remains than Bastian of loony lefty SJW commentary. :lol: :lol:

Aren't they all but bankrupt now anyway?

They're asking for £50 donations from readers to keep going, can't be a good sign


Isn't that the entire point of Comment is Free, they get content but don't have to pay a journalist for it?


Most of the big and regular CIF contributers are Guardian Journalists who only make CIF columns and are usually referenced as on 6 figures. Though the occasional contributers are probably free.

One thing I like about following Guido's website/twiter is how often he highlights how all the Guardian writers to attack big companies who exploit workers cheaply or have internships which double as free work and nepotism for employment and entitlement of private school networking and companies that avoid paying full tax. Meanwhile they advertise for free internships, have CIF column content which generates income for the paper while only paying a team of mostly ex-private school or Oxbridge journalists but doesn't always pay it's contributers. They even allow the editors daughter to make articles for them to further her career to top it all off. All the while their parent company is based overseas as part of a tax avoidance scheme. You couldn't make it up :lol:


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I'm convinced this Alt-Right one is made up by some hack who read a bit of Breitbart for research. Smells like bullshit to me. Especially the line "“Islam isn’t compatible with western civilisation... She was taken aback: “Isn’t that a bit … rightwing?”.

Also don't like how he's equating Sam Harris with the Alt-Right but then that's pretty typical Guardian innit.


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I'm convinced this Alt-Right one is made up by some hack who read a bit of Breitbart for research. Smells like bullshit to me. Especially the line "“Islam isn’t compatible with western civilisation... She was taken aback: “Isn’t that a bit … rightwing?”.

Also don't like how he's equating Sam Harris with the Alt-Right but then that's pretty typical Guardian innit.


I don't think a lot of people who use the phrase #Alt Right' ctually use it correctly. It seems to be sued to describe all things broadly right wing, from centre right positions, capitalist economics, brexit, Le Pen, New Labour, neo-liberal ideals, anti0neo-liberal ideas, right leaning mainstream media to anyone with a different opinion to a Guardian columist it's all getting called 'Alt Right' now. The far right doesn't exist anymore, it's all become 'Alt Right'. You know kinda like how all religious criticism of Islam is racism.

I hate trendy Buzz words.


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A new entrant

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... ?CMP=fb_gu

Summary: Man listens to opposing argument and horrifies himself by finding it compelling. Promises never to do it again.


https://mobile.twitter.com/GodfreyElfwick/status/803687334482939904?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

I'm not down with this kind of shizne, but I am reliably informed this Elfwick character is a spoofist.


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I love Godfrey :lol:


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harris' disdain for greenwald gets me every time but today was a new best.


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Womack wrote:
zzzz wrote:
A new entrant

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... ?CMP=fb_gu

Summary: Man listens to opposing argument and horrifies himself by finding it compelling. Promises never to do it again.


https://mobile.twitter.com/GodfreyElfwick/status/803687334482939904?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

I'm not down with this kind of shizne, but I am reliably informed this Elfwick character is a spoofist.


Holy shit is that guy obsessed


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I hate the crying laughing emoji. How often do people actually cry from laughter? I've seen it used in response to some pretty shit jokes. There should be a slight chuckle emoji.


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Womack wrote:
zzzz wrote:
A new entrant

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... ?CMP=fb_gu

Summary: Man listens to opposing argument and horrifies himself by finding it compelling. Promises never to do it again.


https://mobile.twitter.com/GodfreyElfwick/status/803687334482939904?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

I'm not down with this kind of shizne, but I am reliably informed this Elfwick character is a spoofist.


:lol: :lol: :lol:

That is brilliant.


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Glenn Greenwald comes across as incredibly disingenuous.


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Glenn Greenwald comes across as incredibly disingenuous.


Peak Greenwald was when he was exposed for being the fake poster in his comments who was defending his articles.


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Really enjoyed waking up to the news it was (likely) a hoax. Even if it isn't and Godfrey Elfwick is making it up, the Guardian is in a bit of a pickle as the original author was 'Anonymous' so they can't very well out him now. The Guardian looks silly either way. :lol:


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The Guardian looks silly either way. :lol:


Not really any sillier than they did when they first set up CiF though


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Really enjoyed waking up to the news it was (likely) a hoax. Even if it isn't and Godfrey Elfwick is making it up, the Guardian is in a bit of a pickle as the original author was 'Anonymous' so they can't very well out him now. The Guardian looks silly either way. :lol:


When Fawkes had a hissy fit and banned numerous of his principle co-conspiritors, they started their own blog, which now comfortably exceeds his site in terms of traffic.
Having pretty much caused Labour Lost to self immolate , they moved on to CiF. The daily sport being getting the most patently absurd bollox past the mods - they frequently succeed - Godfrey to whit.


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The irony of this appearing in the Guardian will be not be lost on many.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... -breitbart



That is flabbergasting.


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Here Seneca


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Just when you think you've reached the summit - https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... me-dancing :roll:


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We have at least 4 more years of this preening madness


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We have at least 4 more years of this preening madness


Strictly?


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Just when you think you've reached the summit - https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... me-dancing :roll:


'' It is designed to promote family values and a sense of British national identity, which is largely constructed through a prism of whiteness. This is an insidious process ......''

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