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PostPosted: Tue Apr 04, 2017 5:51 pm 
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So B. Venter only consulting with the Boks.


And with Italy

:lol: :lol: The match in Rome will be worth watching


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So B. Venter only consulting with the Boks.


And with Italy

:lol: :lol: The match in Rome will be worth watching


How will he divide his time? First half in one box, second in the other?


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Jensrsa wrote:
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So B. Venter only consulting with the Boks.


And with Italy

:lol: :lol: The match in Rome will be worth watching


How will he divide his time? First half in one box, second in the other?


Claim being responsible for whoever wins.


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saffer13 wrote:
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So B. Venter only consulting with the Boks.


And with Italy

:lol: :lol: The match in Rome will be worth watching


How will he divide his time? First half in one box, second in the other?


Claim being responsible for whoever wins.

Will he have to cough up his Bok exit plays to Conor O'Shea when preparing for the match?


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 04, 2017 6:57 pm 
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That is some bullshit
And we cant even say its only Italy anymore :thumbdown:


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Brumby_in_Vic wrote:
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So B. Venter only consulting with the Boks.


And with Italy

:lol: :lol: The match in Rome will be worth watching

Indeed.

Prior to our loss against Italy, Venter was part of an advisory panel for the Springboks; then he went off and coached Italy to the win.

You couldn't make it up.

Well, I suppose you could, but nobody would believe you.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 04, 2017 7:49 pm 
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Don't forget he was one of the brains behind organising the Indaba.


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Well he's not going to learn anything while at the Boks so we're safe there at least


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Brendan Venter hits out at rugby agents

Cape Town - Brendan Venter has questioned the integrity of some of the agents associated with South African rugby players.

Venter, who was recently confirmed as defence and exits consultant of the Springboks, vented his frustration on social media.

He was responding to the news that Springbok and Bulls centre Jan Serfontein would leave the country to explore opportunities abroad.

SA Rugby confirmed on Wednesday that an offer was made to keep the 24-year-old midfielder in the country, but he opted against signing a new deal.

Via his official Twitter account, Venter said it was a “pity” that Serfontein decided to head abroad.

Venter also commented on the loss of Sharks scrumhalf Cobus Reinach, who recently announced that he would join English club Northampton Saints.

Venter acknowledged that there were "some really good agents" around, but added that some of them “just don’t care” about the South African game.

Venter called for a more transparent process, saying agents need to explain the processes behind players opting to sign overseas deals.


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Brendan Venter hits out at rugby agents

Cape Town - Brendan Venter has questioned the integrity of some of the agents associated with South African rugby players.

Venter, who was recently confirmed as defence and exits consultant of the Springboks, vented his frustration on social media.

He was responding to the news that Springbok and Bulls centre Jan Serfontein would leave the country to explore opportunities abroad.

SA Rugby confirmed on Wednesday that an offer was made to keep the 24-year-old midfielder in the country, but he opted against signing a new deal.

Via his official Twitter account, Venter said it was a “pity” that Serfontein decided to head abroad.

Venter also commented on the loss of Sharks scrumhalf Cobus Reinach, who recently announced that he would join English club Northampton Saints.

Venter acknowledged that there were "some really good agents" around, but added that some of them “just don’t care” about the South African game.

Venter called for a more transparent process, saying agents need to explain the processes behind players opting to sign overseas deals.

Oh please man..................who would seriously want to stay here with all the shit thats going on.
Our Finance ministers advisor is calling for nationalisation of banks, mines and insurance companies......thats our savings and currency fecked. So what the kids will be earning will be worth bugger all. Zuma is blaming everything on white people and stirring racial division. The ANC is attacking opposition parties and disrupting meetings with violence. There is talk of a genocide and civil war if the ANC is unseated. The Springboks are poor . With absolutely no commercial value. SARU is running huge losses. Why would any young talented player choose to stay here...? And be proud to be a Springbok. Go I say , and build a secure and prosperous future for your family.


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I'm more shocked that as a man who has decided his coaching career lies as a mercenary gun for hire, he should have the cheek to moan about players chasing money, and even worse, actually employing professional agents to do the job properly.


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I'm more shocked that as a man who has decided his coaching career lies as a mercenary gun for hire, he should have the cheek to moan about players chasing money, and even worse, actually employing professional agents to do the job properly.


This irony did not pass me by................he is just annoyed that he has to revise hos plans


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Brendan has always been a self centered egoist. What matters is Brendan, and what Brendan wants.

Spoiled brat.


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Brendan has always been a self centered egoist. What matters is Brendan, and what Brendan wants.

Spoiled brat.

If he can make the Springboks great again, I don't care how shit person he is.


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He kicked and hacked himself out of RWC 1999, with his petulance - God knows what he will do to the Boks. (edited, thank Sorc)


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Nearly cost us an early exit in 99 WC. Twat.


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Kolisi, Whiteley tipped for Bok captaincy


According to Huw Jones anyway...
http://www.sport24.co.za/Rugby/Springboks/kolisi-whiteley-tipped-for-bok-captaincy-20170421

Jones is full of predictions:
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That is the view of his Stormers team-mate and Scotland centre Huw Jones.

http://www.sport24.co.za/Rugby/Springboks/jones-ill-eat-my-hat-if-leyds-isnt-a-bok-20170421


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saffer13 wrote:
Jensrsa wrote:
Brumby_in_Vic wrote:
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So B. Venter only consulting with the Boks.


And with Italy

:lol: :lol: The match in Rome will be worth watching


How will he divide his time? First half in one box, second in the other?


Claim being responsible for whoever wins.



Are you inferring that SA may not win against Italy?. oh hang on….


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Whiteley I reckon really need his trusty deputy (Kriel) if he is to be captain
They go well together and there seems to be a real bond


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Venter could be for Coetzee what Gary Gold was for PDV i.e. the real coach. That could be huge for Bok rugby because for all his faults as a personality, he is a very good coach. This is assuming Venter actually cares and is not just picking up pay-cheques.


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Venter could be for Coetzee what Gary Gold was for PDV i.e. the real coach. That could be huge for Bok rugby because for all his faults as a personality, he is a very good coach. This is assuming Venter actually cares and is not just picking up pay-cheques.


First I hear of this. I thought the players were coaching themselves?


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Venter could be for Coetzee what Gary Gold was for PDV i.e. the real coach. That could be huge for Bok rugby because for all his faults as a personality, he is a very good coach. This is assuming Venter actually cares and is not just picking up pay-cheques.


First I hear of this. I thought the players were coaching themselves?

Yeah! Smit, FDP and Matfield were coaching the team.


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Nxesi emphasised the importance of development and has recognised that it is not only dependent on the sports federations, but it is also the responsibility of the governmental departments.

"If you look at those who play for the national teams, you will see it is mostly players drawn from model C schools or school with sports. There is talent in the rural and township areas that have not been unearth.

"But that is not the responsibility of rugby – it’s the responsibility of Federations and the Department of Sport and Recreation," he explained.

http://www.rugby365.com/countries/south-africa/78842-sa-gov-to-back-world-cup-2023-bid

A minister who acknowledges the government's responsibility in developing rugby at school level? That's a change.

I wonder what his instructions were regarding the Kings and their place in Super Rugby


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Nxesi emphasised the importance of development and has recognised that it is not only dependent on the sports federations, but it is also the responsibility of the governmental departments.

"If you look at those who play for the national teams, you will see it is mostly players drawn from model C schools or school with sports. There is talent in the rural and township areas that have not been unearth.

"But that is not the responsibility of rugby – it’s the responsibility of Federations and the Department of Sport and Recreation," he explained.

http://www.rugby365.com/countries/south-africa/78842-sa-gov-to-back-world-cup-2023-bid

A minister who acknowledges the government's responsibility in developing rugby at school level? That's a change.

I wonder what his instructions were regarding the Kings and their place in Super Rugby

Sounds promising...


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Nxesi emphasised the importance of development and has recognised that it is not only dependent on the sports federations, but it is also the responsibility of the governmental departments.

"If you look at those who play for the national teams, you will see it is mostly players drawn from model C schools or school with sports. There is talent in the rural and township areas that have not been unearth.

"But that is not the responsibility of rugby – it’s the responsibility of Federations and the Department of Sport and Recreation," he explained.

http://www.rugby365.com/countries/south-africa/78842-sa-gov-to-back-world-cup-2023-bid

A minister who acknowledges the government's responsibility in developing rugby at school level? That's a change.

I wonder what his instructions were regarding the Kings and their place in Super Rugby

Sounds promising...


Kings deserve to stay.......end of. We cannot discount the fact that they are new to Super Rugby and are just over a number of demoralising issues such as Cheeky , non payment of players salaries , bankruptcy and player drain to the larger unions.


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Nxesi emphasised the importance of development and has recognised that it is not only dependent on the sports federations, but it is also the responsibility of the governmental departments.

"If you look at those who play for the national teams, you will see it is mostly players drawn from model C schools or school with sports. There is talent in the rural and township areas that have not been unearth.

"But that is not the responsibility of rugby – it’s the responsibility of Federations and the Department of Sport and Recreation," he explained.

http://www.rugby365.com/countries/south-africa/78842-sa-gov-to-back-world-cup-2023-bid

A minister who acknowledges the government's responsibility in developing rugby at school level? That's a change.

I wonder what his instructions were regarding the Kings and their place in Super Rugby

Sounds promising...


Kings deserve to stay.......end of. We cannot discount the fact that they are new to Super Rugby and are just over a number of demoralising issues such as Cheeky , non payment of players salaries , bankruptcy and player drain to the larger unions.

Look, they have put in a few inspiring performances of late, but the union is a total clusterfcuk. No way you can select them above one of the other unions.


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Kings deserve to stay.......end of. We cannot discount the fact that they are new to Super Rugby and are just over a number of demoralising issues such as Cheeky , non payment of players salaries , bankruptcy and player drain to the larger unions.

Look, they have put in a few inspiring performances of late, but the union is a total clusterfcuk. No way you can select them above one of the other unions.


Of course they have....they were touted as a Quota team and created to showcase that and were hamstrung by the reasons I included above but they have developed into a solid union and are playing a solid brand of all inclusive rugby.........they deserve a chance.

Cheetahs and Bulls can feck off North for all I care....in fact the style of rugby played north would suit the Bulls more than the Kings tbh.


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Kings deserve to stay.......end of. We cannot discount the fact that they are new to Super Rugby and are just over a number of demoralising issues such as Cheeky , non payment of players salaries , bankruptcy and player drain to the larger unions.

Look, they have put in a few inspiring performances of late, but the union is a total clusterfcuk. No way you can select them above one of the other unions.


Of course they have....they were touted as a Quota team and created to showcase that and were hamstrung by the reasons I included above but they have developed into a solid union and are playing a solid brand of all inclusive rugby.........they deserve a chance.

Cheetahs and Bulls can feck off North for all I care....in fact the style of rugby played north would suit the Bulls more than the Kings tbh.


A whole new conference for you not to watch but have an opinion on ;)


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Kings deserve to stay.......end of. We cannot discount the fact that they are new to Super Rugby and are just over a number of demoralising issues such as Cheeky , non payment of players salaries , bankruptcy and player drain to the larger unions.

Look, they have put in a few inspiring performances of late, but the union is a total clusterfcuk. No way you can select them above one of the other unions.


Of course they have....they were touted as a Quota team and created to showcase that and were hamstrung by the reasons I included above but they have developed into a solid union and are playing a solid brand of all inclusive rugby.........they deserve a chance.

Cheetahs and Bulls can feck off North for all I care....in fact the style of rugby played north would suit the Bulls more than the Kings tbh.


A whole new conference for you not to watch but have an opinion on ;)



You are worse than my 8 year old son...........................so exhausting


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old men get tired so easily these days :D


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Sards wrote:
handyman wrote:
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Kings deserve to stay.......end of. We cannot discount the fact that they are new to Super Rugby and are just over a number of demoralising issues such as Cheeky , non payment of players salaries , bankruptcy and player drain to the larger unions.

Look, they have put in a few inspiring performances of late, but the union is a total clusterfcuk. No way you can select them above one of the other unions.


Of course they have....they were touted as a Quota team and created to showcase that and were hamstrung by the reasons I included above but they have developed into a solid union and are playing a solid brand of all inclusive rugby.........they deserve a chance.

Cheetahs and Bulls can feck off North for all I care....in fact the style of rugby played north would suit the Bulls more than the Kings tbh.


Waai windjie waai
Few good games now they deserve (deserve!) to be there more than the Bulls and Cheetahs


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Cartman wrote:
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handyman wrote:
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Kings deserve to stay.......end of. We cannot discount the fact that they are new to Super Rugby and are just over a number of demoralising issues such as Cheeky , non payment of players salaries , bankruptcy and player drain to the larger unions.

Look, they have put in a few inspiring performances of late, but the union is a total clusterfcuk. No way you can select them above one of the other unions.


Of course they have....they were touted as a Quota team and created to showcase that and were hamstrung by the reasons I included above but they have developed into a solid union and are playing a solid brand of all inclusive rugby.........they deserve a chance.

Cheetahs and Bulls can feck off North for all I care....in fact the style of rugby played north would suit the Bulls more than the Kings tbh.


Waai windjie waai
Few good games now they deserve (deserve!) to be there more than the Bulls and Cheetahs


Hey...you Vaalies can have one team between the two of you dammit. :x


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Speaking after a successful comeback to rugby with the Golden Lions in their 112-14 win over the Namibia Welwitschias in the SuperSport Rugby Challenge, after spending six months recovering from a shoulder injury suffered during the Springboks’ end-of-year tour, the Lions winger said he would listen closely to medical advice.

“We’re just taking it day for day to see how the progression goes,” he said. “The Super Rugby guys have been playing awesome rugby and if I was a coach I wouldn’t change anything there. So in terms of myself I’m taking it day by day to see how it goes.”

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With the Springboks playing the first test of their three-match series against France in just over a month, and the Lions left with just three more fixtures before Super Rugby goes into its break for incoming tours, quite what that means for Combrinck’s international ambitions is a mystery.

The 26-year-old, who was one of the few leading lights for the Boks last season, played 40 minutes in the Lions’ annihilation of the Welwitschias at the Alberton Rugby Club in the South of Johannesburg on Saturday, finishing the rest of the game as a glorified water boy for the team.

As reintroductions to the game go few could have been gentler on the shoulder than the match against the outclassed Namibians, who had conceded seven tries without reply by halftime and shipped in another nine in the second half as their lack of conditioning told.

Combrinck said going off at halftime was always the plan: “The plan was always to trust the medical staff and the plan they have for me. After five months I can’t really rush into it and play 80 minutes.”

While he didn’t score one of the Lions’ 16 tries against the Welwitschias, Combrinck put in a performance in which he was lusty in the physical exchanges and instrumental in setting up two of the tries.

“It was awesome being back,” he said afterwards. “Shoulder’s feeling great, I just need more game time to see how it goes but I’m very satisfied with it.”

https://www.supersport.com/rugby/supersport-challenge/news/170508/Combrinck_looking_no_further_than_SS_Rugby_Challenge


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The Springboks will be without Francois Louw for the June series against France after the veteran flanker underwent a shoulder operation.

The 31-year-old, who plays for Bath in England, told Netwerk24 that he was likely to be out of action for more or less 12 weeks after undergoing surgery on Thursday.

Louw started nine Tests for the Boks last year, and would have been the favourite to once again wear the No 6 jersey against France.

His untimely injury might open the door for Kings fetcher Chris Cloete, while the Lions' Jaco Kriel, or even Stormers captain Siya Kolisi could now have a role to play at openside flank.

http://www.sarugbymag.co.za/blog/details/louw-blow-for-boks


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Why is he even considered


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Cloete should be a cert, but won't. Easily out best genuine openside option.


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Cloete should be a cert, but won't. Easily out best genuine openside option.


He and Kriel as the 6 options
Kolisi as 7
Duane/Whitley a8

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3rd Bok training camp 21-23 May

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At the conclusion of the camp on May 23, the Springbok squad of 31 players for the Castle Lager Incoming Series next month against France will be announced, as well as 26-man SA ‘A’ squad for their matches against the French Barbarians. Following next week’s announcement, the Springbok squad will gather in Plettenberg Bay from 28 May to 4 June to continue with preparations for the French series.

http://www.sarugby.co.za/article.aspx?category=sarugby/springboks&id=3995674

1. Lukhanyo Am (Centre, Cell C Sharks)
2. Ruan Botha (Lock, Cell C Sharks)
10. Jean-Luc du Preez (Flank, Cell C Sharks)
11. Thomas du Toit (Prop, Cell C Sharks)
21. Pat Lambie (Flyhalf, Cell C Sharks)
29. Tendai Mtawarira (Prop, Cell C Sharks)
33. Coenie Oosthuizen (Prop, Cell C Sharks)
34. Chiliboy Ralepelle (Hooker, Cell C Sharks)
4. Andries Coetzee (Fullback, Emirates Lions)
9. Ruan Dreyer (Prop, Emirates Lions)
6. Ross Cronje (Scrumhalf Emirates Lions)
17. Elton Jantjies (Flyhalf, Emirates Lions)
19. Jaco Kriel (Flank, Emirates Lions)
25. Lionel Mapoe (Centre, Emirates Lions)
26. Malcolm Marx (Hooker, Emirates Lions)
28. Franco Mostert (Lock, Emirates Lions)
36. Courtnall Skosan (Wing, Emirates Lions)
38. Harold Vorster (Centre, Emirates Lions)
39. Warren Whiteley (No 8, Emirates Lions)
3. Chris Cloete (Flank, Southern Kings)
5. Lionel Cronje (Flyhalf, Southern Kings)
24. Makazole Mapimpi (Wing, Southern Kings)
31. Andisa Ntsila (Flank, Southern Kings)
7. Damian de Allende (Centre DHL Stormers)
12. Pieter-Steph du Toit (Lock, DHL Stormers)
13. Dewaldt Duvenage (Scrumhalf, DHL Stormers)
14. Eben Etzebeth (Lock, DHL Stormers)
18. Siya Kolisi (Flank, DHL Stormers)
22. Dillyn Leyds (Wing, DHL Stormers)
23. Frans Malherbe (Prop, DHL Stormers)
27. Bongi Mbonambi (Hooker, DHL Stormers)
30. Sikhumbuzo Notshe (Loose forward, DHL Stormers)
37. Jano Vermaak (Scrumhalf, DHL Stormers)
8. Lood de Jager (Lock, Vodacom Bulls)
15. Warrick Gelant (Fullback, Vodacom Bulls)
16. Lizo Gqoboka (Prop, Vodacom Bulls)
20. Jesse Kriel (Centre/Fullback Vodacom Bulls)
32. Trevor Nyakane (Prop, Vodacom Bulls)
35. Jan Serfontein (Centre, Vodacom Bulls)

Sharks 8
Stormers 10
Lions 11
Bulls 6
Cheetahs 0
Kings 4


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No players from the Toyota Cheetahs were included as they are on tour in New Zealand. As with the first two camps, there are also no overseas-based players amongst the training squad, adhering to Regulation 9 of World Rugby.


Which Cheetahs/overseas players could be considered?

Overseas: I read the other day that Frans and BdP could get a call.
Cheetahs: Venter, Oupa, Rhule...who else?


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PostPosted: Mon May 15, 2017 5:04 pm 
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How long is Lambulance out for this time? Poor oke needs to go build a retirement fund in Japan.


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