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Bindi wrote:Be a bit gutted if I were a Ponies supporter. They really didn't create much though.

Nothing resembling decent back-line moves and nary one quick or slippery back.

Utter, utter crap.

Allegedly their coach could play a bit once upon etc etc. How incredibly interesting.

Could.Not.Coach.A.Rabbit.To.Fúck.

Bokkom wrote:Aha, at last a reliable pundit joins the fray.

Ox, what's your view on the quality of the different SA franchises - in brief?

Early ranking.

1. Sharks 2. Lions 3. Stomps 4. Cheetahs/Bulls. Category of his own, Waylon Murray the King.

ox wagon wrote:Sharks had a very tough start to the season. Away against two of the stronger Aussie sides. They've done exceptionally well. Excellent work in the forwards, strong defence, moving the ball through the hands. Lots to build on from these two matches, young backline that will grow through the season. Easily the best SA side this season so far, and the only SA side that has really tested themselves against foreign sides.

French fossil needs to be retired. Nowhere near as good an option as Bosch. First Brumbies try, he was the last man on the wing and it looked like he couldn't run. He seems to have two speeds, slow jog and a bit faster jog. It's shocking.

Well done to Am, loaning him to the Kings last year worked out well for us. That centre combination did well today.

Stomps are, so far, clearly the best side in SA Ox.

Chilli wrote:Stomps are, so far, clearly the best side in SA Ox.

What have they done? Wait until the Sharks pack fucks them up. All they have is a tight five.

Chilli wrote:

ox wagon wrote:Sharks had a very tough start to the season. Away against two of the stronger Aussie sides. They've done exceptionally well. Excellent work in the forwards, strong defence, moving the ball through the hands. Lots to build on from these two matches, young backline that will grow through the season. Easily the best SA side this season so far, and the only SA side that has really tested themselves against foreign sides.

French fossil needs to be retired. Nowhere near as good an option as Bosch. First Brumbies try, he was the last man on the wing and it looked like he couldn't run. He seems to have two speeds, slow jog and a bit faster jog. It's shocking.

Well done to Am, loaning him to the Kings last year worked out well for us. That centre combination did well today.

Stomps are, so far, clearly the best side in SA Ox.

Just be grateful the Sharks won and he has posted again.

Chilli wrote:

ox wagon wrote:Sharks had a very tough start to the season. Away against two of the stronger Aussie sides. They've done exceptionally well. Excellent work in the forwards, strong defence, moving the ball through the hands. Lots to build on from these two matches, young backline that will grow through the season. Easily the best SA side this season so far, and the only SA side that has really tested themselves against foreign sides.

French fossil needs to be retired. Nowhere near as good an option as Bosch. First Brumbies try, he was the last man on the wing and it looked like he couldn't run. He seems to have two speeds, slow jog and a bit faster jog. It's shocking.

Well done to Am, loaning him to the Kings last year worked out well for us. That centre combination did well today.

Stomps are, so far, clearly the best side in SA Ox.

Hawk97 wrote:

MungoMan wrote:Well done Sharks. LOL Bumboys. Get a real coach, FFS.

Such a calm, exquisitely serene heart-rate though

I'm guessing being under no pressure to hold on to your job might help.

the only sharks who looked at all like quality were beast, du preez and mthembu - and i'm giving beast the benefit here as the quality of his opponents is questionable

That's where the loss of so many experienced players will cost the Brumbies this year...

They had plenty of opportunities to take that in the end, and they blew it.

Monk Zombie wrote:the only sharks who looked at all like quality were beast, du preez and mthembu - and i'm giving the benefit here as the quality of his opponents is questionable

The amusing thing is, that's all we'll need to beat your lot.

Massive improvement in that 2nd half. Good to finally see some variation in attack, using the big boys (Ruan Botha in particular who was best on ground) as distributors to a sweeping backline. For far too long all phase attack had been static and one dimensional.

Still lots to improve, particularly discipline, but great to see some genuine progress.

ox wagon wrote:

Monk Zombie wrote:the only sharks who looked at all like quality were beast, du preez and mthembu - and i'm giving the benefit here as the quality of his opponents is questionable

The amusing thing is, that's all we'll need to beat your lot.

groot bek

MungoMan wrote:

Hawk97 wrote:

MungoMan wrote:Well done Sharks. LOL Bumboys. Get a real coach, FFS.

Such a calm, exquisitely serene heart-rate though

I'm guessing being under no pressure to hold on to your job might help.

No other options? Can Finegan coach?

Ahhh fahfxcks-sake, well done Shorks, kept in there, strong consistent work with many fases, deserved the win.

Well, that sucks, so interesting farting about in the line out circa 2004, good young scrummy but got over eager, pedantic but correct ref, but just no spark, with the cattle we have there really should be more going on.

Whelp, looking forward to the Warratits after travelin an facing the Shorks at home, though the Force might just have the nouse to do us in as well, Brumbies just looking a pale shade of teams gone by, hope they can find some motivation.

Unbelievable

We NEVER win games like that!

Hawk97 wrote:

MungoMan wrote:

Hawk97 wrote:

MungoMan wrote:Well done Sharks. LOL Bumboys. Get a real coach, FFS.

Such a calm, exquisitely serene heart-rate though

I'm guessing being under no pressure to hold on to your job might help.

No other options? Can Finegan coach?

Don't know. But I'd be looking at fellas with record of being a talented a successful coach, not just provincial ex-players.

Hawk97 wrote:

MungoMan wrote:

Hawk97 wrote:

MungoMan wrote:Well done Sharks. LOL Bumboys. Get a real coach, FFS.

Such a calm, exquisitely serene heart-rate though

I'm guessing being under no pressure to hold on to your job might help.

No other options? Can Finegan coach?

The pertinent question is 'Can Melon do any worse', Guess Bernie is just one of those intuitive athlets who cant verbalise his intentions, translate his mental process's to coaching guidlines.....I guess im trying to say....stupidly talented player, crappy coach unfortunately, an the heart rate monitor was just feckin annoying...

Sharks are truly a new South African team. Super proud of my team!

ox wagon wrote:

Bokkom wrote:Aha, at last a reliable pundit joins the fray.

Ox, what's your view on the quality of the different SA franchises - in brief?

Early ranking.

1. Sharks 2. Lions 3. Stomps 4. Cheetahs/Bulls. Category of his own, Waylon Murray the King.

Congrats on the win.

Sharks have an easy fixture list. Favorite now to win the SA Conference

Rocketz wrote:Sharks are truly a new South African team. Super proud of my team!

Is this the same Sharks team that were mouthing off the whole week about how SARU must do more to stop local players from leaving...and then field Poitrenaud?

You're just as thick as they are.

What a good win!

Two excellent fight backs

Bosch is a good footballer to be able to put that last kick through

Like to see the back line running onto the ball more as once they get going they have good skills

Pretty good tour all round

Well done Sharks

argus wrote:What a good win!

Two excellent fight backs

Bosch is a good footballer to be able to put that last kick through

Like to see the back line running onto the ball more as once they get going they have good skills

Pretty good tour all round

Well done Sharks

Argreed. The Sharks are the lionheart of SA.

CrazyIslander wrote:

argus wrote:What a good win!

Two excellent fight backs

Bosch is a good footballer to be able to put that last kick through

Like to see the back line running onto the ball more as once they get going they have good skills

Pretty good tour all round

Well done Sharks

Argreed. The Sharks are the lionheart of SA.

That's the Lions

CrazyIslander wrote:

argus wrote:What a good win!

Two excellent fight backs

Bosch is a good footballer to be able to put that last kick through

Like to see the back line running onto the ball more as once they get going they have good skills

Pretty good tour all round

Well done Sharks

Argreed. The Sharks are the lionheart of SA.

On tour definitely
If you ignore their playoff record down under..... or anywhere i guess

Chilli wrote:

ox wagon wrote:Sharks had a very tough start to the season. Away against two of the stronger Aussie sides. They've done exceptionally well. Excellent work in the forwards, strong defence, moving the ball through the hands. Lots to build on from these two matches, young backline that will grow through the season. Easily the best SA side this season so far, and the only SA side that has really tested themselves against foreign sides.

French fossil needs to be retired. Nowhere near as good an option as Bosch. First Brumbies try, he was the last man on the wing and it looked like he couldn't run. He seems to have two speeds, slow jog and a bit faster jog. It's shocking.

Well done to Am, loaning him to the Kings last year worked out well for us. That centre combination did well today.

Stomps are, so far, clearly the best side in SA Ox.

with silly statements like this I wonder if you realise whether you are posting on a rugby board

sorCrer wrote:

Rocketz wrote:Sharks are truly a new South African team. Super proud of my team!

Is this the same Sharks team that were mouthing off the whole week about how SARU must do more to stop local players from leaving...and then field Poitrenaud?

You're just as thick as they are.

nee man

Monk Zombie wrote:

Chilli wrote:

ox wagon wrote:Sharks had a very tough start to the season. Away against two of the stronger Aussie sides. They've done exceptionally well. Excellent work in the forwards, strong defence, moving the ball through the hands. Lots to build on from these two matches, young backline that will grow through the season. Easily the best SA side this season so far, and the only SA side that has really tested themselves against foreign sides.

French fossil needs to be retired. Nowhere near as good an option as Bosch. First Brumbies try, he was the last man on the wing and it looked like he couldn't run. He seems to have two speeds, slow jog and a bit faster jog. It's shocking.

Well done to Am, loaning him to the Kings last year worked out well for us. That centre combination did well today.

Stomps are, so far, clearly the best side in SA Ox.

Chilli and Monk, you both forget I know my rugby.

Foolish to be sucked in by a low quality Stomps v Bulls derby. The Sharks and Lions are clearly out ahead of the other SA sides. Stomps achieve third place, because of their impressive tight five, it's powderpuff behind that though and any side that beats them up front will be well on their way to destroying them. Cheetahs and Bulls haven't been impressive at all, and play each other in a derby so no new information there, they sit in the cellar. Kings have done better than expected so far, the best ever Kings side, lots of nearly men in the team, may not come last this season.

5 points from a difficult away start,

But need to build on that at home.

sorCrer wrote:

Rocketz wrote:Sharks are truly a new South African team. Super proud of my team!

Is this the same Sharks team that were mouthing off the whole week about how SARU must do more to stop local players from leaving...and then field Poitrenaud?

You're just as thick as they are.

The only thickness that I saw today were the Bulls. Pathetic is an understatement. And Pollard........better than Lamb chops

My take on the game.

Beast is playing some great rugby. But Franco Marais cost us lineouts and penalties, replaced by a much better Chilliboy.
Great to see Lewies back, I forgot what an all-round game he brings.
Good work by our 3 eighthmen

I still feel our 10-12-13 combo isn't working, and I believe it was the 50 minute mark before we started seeing the ball go down the line. Still nobody really straightening up, apart from a couple of moves to bring Mvovo into the line that were effective. But I really like the look of Am, seems to bring a nice touch of flair to the backline and he had a good game before he scored the matchwinner.

Another poor game from the Frenchman, I'm struggling to see what he brings so far. Good cameo from Bosch to set up that superb try.

Our work around the breakdown was notably. du Preez has obviously told the team to get stuck in, and without a specialist it became a bit of a free for all, with only a couple of successes from backline players. We really miss Marcel Coetzee and Bismark.

Happy with 5 points from the tour, lets see how we get on at the Sharktank

Sards wrote:

sorCrer wrote:

Rocketz wrote:Sharks are truly a new South African team. Super proud of my team!

Is this the same Sharks team that were mouthing off the whole week about how SARU must do more to stop local players from leaving...and then field Poitrenaud?

You're just as thick as they are.

The only thickness that I saw today were the Bulls. Pathetic is an understatement. And Pollard........better than Lamb chops

Deflecting?

So how are things going in the easy non Kiwi playing conference?

Chilli wrote:So how are things going in the easy non Kiwi playing conference?

According to Ox it's been the toughest start possible and the Sharks have managed it brilliantly.

Btw, that Sharks Frenchy...just how crap is he? Worse than the Andy Goode signing for sure.

Kudos to ox who called this right. I almost went with the Sharks in the FR based on that......... and then saw Poitrenaud was starting so changed my mind. I missed the last 5 mins and for a while could not work out how I had gone down the FR rankings.

Torquemada 1420 wrote:Kudos to ox who called this right. I almost went with the Sharks in the FR based on that......... and then saw Poitrenaud was starting so changed my mind. I missed the last 5 mins and for a while could not work out how I had gone down the FR rankings.

Lucky for the Sharks they subbed him just in time.

saffer13 wrote:

Torquemada 1420 wrote:Kudos to ox who called this right. I almost went with the Sharks in the FR based on that......... and then saw Poitrenaud was starting so changed my mind. I missed the last 5 mins and for a while could not work out how I had gone down the FR rankings.

Lucky for the Sharks they subbed him just in time.

Yeah. That's always the unknown: how long coaches will persist with idiots.

Torquemada 1420 wrote:Yeah. That's always the unknown: how long coaches will persist with idiots.

He came to the right place to try. We've an incredible list of bad signings

assfly wrote:

Torquemada 1420 wrote:Yeah. That's always the unknown: how long coaches will persist with idiots.

He came to the right place to try. We've an incredible list of bad signings

Tbf, very few SA teams have a good track record in this regard with intl signings.

saffer13 wrote:Tbf, very few SA teams have a good track record in this regard with intl signings.

Perhaps he inspired Bosch to try that little grubber at the end

But ja, apart from Michalak we have Fat Stevens, Mouritz Botha, Jack Wilson, Hernandez, that Aussie lock from a couple of seasons ago.