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PostPosted: Wed Nov 13, 2019 6:34 pm 
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Any highlights under 5 minutes are pretty poor. NFL does good highlights and they're at least 9 minutes! MOTD highlights must be around 7+.

The English Premiership rugby highlights also suffer from time constraints.


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Any highlights under 5 minutes are pretty poor. NFL does good highlights and they're at least 9 minutes! MOTD highlights must be around 7+.

The English Premiership rugby highlights also suffer from time constraints.


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I know, it's pathetic really and hardly worth your while watching them


This is the point. What is a highlights package for? Well, two things really. One, to allow people to catch up on the action that they have otherwise missed. The highlights fail on this front as they contain so little of the action. The second is the sell your product to the causal viewer or potential customer by showing them how great your product is and potentially generate more subscribers/attendees at matches. It also fails on this front.

If you can't fulfill either goal of producing the highlights, why bother in the first place, there is zero value.


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Was looking forward to the highlights packages. Clearly won't be bothering now.

In other news the SRU shat it and have apologised to WR.


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Was looking forward to the highlights packages. Clearly won't be bothering now.

In other news the SRU shat it and have apologised to WR.


Read - the lawyers told them they weren't in with a chance of overturning.

Dodson should have apologised when given the chance, his pugnacious attitude has cost us 70k + legal fees.


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It looks like they've come to some sort of shitey compromise. The SRU have "expressed regret" rather than apologised and "made a donation" rather than paid a fine :roll:


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World Rugby Statement: Rugby World Cup 2019
"World Rugby can confirm that the Scottish Rugby Union has expressed its regret and has confirmed it will not challenge World Rugby further on this matter.

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"The Scottish Rugby Union has agreed to pay a donation of £70,000 to World Rugby and the matter is now closed. There will be no further comment from either party."


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Embra match being streamed on ecpr site


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12 changes to the team. Nice to see Shiel get a start.

15. Damien Hoyland (67)

14. Eroni Sau (3)

13. James Johnstone (42)

12. George Taylor (10)

11. Jamie Farndale (5)

10. Simon Hickey (23)

9. Charlie Shiel (11)


1. Jamie Bhatti (5)

2. Cameron Fenton (16)

3. Simon Berghan (68)

4. Sam Thomson (3)

5. Grant Gilchrist (138) CAPTAIN

6. John Barclay (6)

7. Jamie Ritchie (63)

8. Nick Haining (4)


Replacements: 16. Michael Willemse (6) 17. Rory Sutherland (76) 18. Murray McCallum (53) 19. Lewis Carmichael (37) 20. Ally Miller (13) 21. Dan Nutton* 22. Jason Baggott (1) 23. Dougie Fife (124)


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Agen have put out a similar team. So it looks like neither are prioritising this competition although that is slightly more surprising for Agen at home.

My son and I are going to the match in Bordeaux. Given this team, he'll bring his boots in case he's needed.


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Finn's Racing 92 v CHH's Sarries on Sunday. Will be a tough shift for CHH but good to get a start in the HEC.


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What does anyone know about Dan Nutton?


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What does anyone know about Dan Nutton?



Absolutely Nutton..........


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What does anyone know about Dan Nutton?


According to Google:

Was at Newcastle Uni where he captained their 1sts. Went to Mechiston Castle and was the same U20 training squad in Nov 2014 as Fagerson, Ritchie, Bradbury etc so must be 24ish?. Now in the Heriots S6 side.


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That's interesting he's getting a shot tonight.


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Some sort of match clock would be handy on the challenge cup live stream... and the score... and commentary if they're really feeling flush.


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I can handle the lack of commentary as I'm assuming every match is being streamed. Back a clock would have been good particularly with all those penalties at the end.


Disappointing 2nd half but job done in the end, some good defensive work (despite being shat on with some of the refs penalties in the scrum imo. I'm certainly no expert but the embra scrum looked dominant and got penalised a couple if times) prior to the final try. Thomson and Taylor stand outs for me.


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Match preview for Glasgow v Sale:

https://wp.me/p68WtH-8hT


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So what are the SRU going to do with £35m?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/50453217

I think we can rule out a 3rd pro team (£35m would get maybe 5 years of a poor quality side). Perhaps up the budgets in the Super6 (super8?) and youth development. A little bit of infrastructure upgrading might be wise: spend a bit on Murrayfield as well as take forward the Edinburgh stadium and progress an option for Glasgow? Most of it will probably go over the next few years on player contracts to try to keep the best internationals in Scotland.


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So what are the SRU going to do with £35m?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/50453217

I think we can rule out a 3rd pro team (£35m would get maybe 5 years of a poor quality side). Perhaps up the budgets in the Super6 (super8?) and youth development. A little bit of infrastructure upgrading might be wise: spend a bit on Murrayfield as well as take forward the Edinburgh stadium and progress an option for Glasgow? Most of it will probably go over the next few years on player contracts to try to keep the best internationals in Scotland.


Abuse WR every day for 500 days.


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Alba wrote:
So what are the SRU going to do with £35m?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/50453217

I think we can rule out a 3rd pro team (£35m would get maybe 5 years of a poor quality side). Perhaps up the budgets in the Super6 (super8?) and youth development. A little bit of infrastructure upgrading might be wise: spend a bit on Murrayfield as well as take forward the Edinburgh stadium and progress an option for Glasgow? Most of it will probably go over the next few years on player contracts to try to keep the best internationals in Scotland.


It would get a development side ala Connacht but maybe the Super 6 is the way to go, increase to Super 8 then once we have the breadth of players then look at a 3rd pro side in 4/5 years time that could be filled out with the best from the Super 8 teams.


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Lorthern Nights wrote:
Alba wrote:
So what are the SRU going to do with £35m?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/50453217

I think we can rule out a 3rd pro team (£35m would get maybe 5 years of a poor quality side). Perhaps up the budgets in the Super6 (super8?) and youth development. A little bit of infrastructure upgrading might be wise: spend a bit on Murrayfield as well as take forward the Edinburgh stadium and progress an option for Glasgow? Most of it will probably go over the next few years on player contracts to try to keep the best internationals in Scotland.


It would get a development side ala Connacht but maybe the Super 6 is the way to go, increase to Super 8 then once we have the breadth of players then look at a 3rd pro side in 4/5 years time that could be filled out with the best from the Super 8 teams.


Difficult to see the Pro14 accepting a third Scottish side at the moment, especially a potential sub-standard one.


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Lorthern Nights wrote:
Alba wrote:
So what are the SRU going to do with £35m?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/50453217

I think we can rule out a 3rd pro team (£35m would get maybe 5 years of a poor quality side). Perhaps up the budgets in the Super6 (super8?) and youth development. A little bit of infrastructure upgrading might be wise: spend a bit on Murrayfield as well as take forward the Edinburgh stadium and progress an option for Glasgow? Most of it will probably go over the next few years on player contracts to try to keep the best internationals in Scotland.


It would get a development side ala Connacht but maybe the Super 6 is the way to go, increase to Super 8 then once we have the breadth of players then look at a 3rd pro side in 4/5 years time that could be filled out with the best from the Super 8 teams.


And if a team such as Stirling or the Southern Knights commercially has excelled and has the infrastructure in place you have a base for a third pro team rather than whipping one up from scratch.


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The Sunday Mail are linking us with Matt Sherratt (attack coach) from the Ospreys to replace Mike Blair x( x( The same article says Danny Wilson is a "strong contender" for the Glasgow job :uhoh: Hardly inspiring appointments if they happen.


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Alba wrote:
So what are the SRU going to do with £35m?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/50453217

I think we can rule out a 3rd pro team (£35m would get maybe 5 years of a poor quality side). Perhaps up the budgets in the Super6 (super8?) and youth development. A little bit of infrastructure upgrading might be wise: spend a bit on Murrayfield as well as take forward the Edinburgh stadium and progress an option for Glasgow? Most of it will probably go over the next few years on player contracts to try to keep the best internationals in Scotland.

The first thing the £35m has to do is be invested in a way that generates enough funds to cover the 27% reduction in income each year from the PRO14. Main focus for the bulk of the cash will surely be capital investment that can generate additional revenues - Scotstoun and mini-Murrayfield and their matchday facilities. Possibly even a bit might go on updating and improving facilities in Murrayfield itself although more likely the upfront cash from CVC's deal for the Six Nations will be earmarked for that.

Some of it will be eaten up by the undoubted wage inflation that's going to come from all these lump sums flowing into rugby. I can't see there being enough left to fund a 3rd pro team. Super 6 enhancements would make sense once this first season is done and everyone has a better idea of what is needed.


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Eddie gets his wee dig in. Some home truths in there though - we did look particularly unfit especially v Ireland where it all started to unravel.

Also - "The best 'small' team in the world", gives me shivers at the memory of Jack McConnell's "Best small country in the world" comment from back when x(

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Scotland must take inspiration from Japan and try to become "the best 'small' team in the world", says England head coach Eddie Jones.

Jones also suggested Gregor Townsend's side "got their physical conditioning wrong" as they failed to make it out of their pool at the World Cup.

Hosts Japan eliminated Scotland on their way to the last eight, where they lost to eventual winners South Africa.

"Gregor's got them back playing how a Scotland side should play," said Jones.

"[A lack of size] makes it difficult but you can have one-off success like Japan have had.

"You've got to pool all your resources into being the best 'small' team in the world.

"That means you look at everything you do, at how you can win ball quickly - particularly from set-piece.

"You look at how you can win the ball quickly from the breakdown and you need a consistent programme for four years to be at your best to do that.

"You have to play quick, you have to have a varied attack and it takes a lot of cohesion to play that way."

Jones, 59, coached Japan for three years including leading them at the 2015 World Cup, where they lost to Scotland as they became the first nation to record three pool-stage wins and not reach the last eight.

He then took charge of England, winning the Six Nations in 2016 and 2017 before finishing as runners-up to South Africa in Japan at the beginning of November.

His side produced a colossal performance to upset holders New Zealand in the semi-finals but lost a week later against the powerful Springboks.

Scotland's tournament was a huge disappointment, failing to reach the last eight for just the second time following defeats to Ireland and Japan.

Jones' observations about the side's conditioning are at odds with Townsend's claim his squad would be "the fittest at the World Cup".

"We have great respect for the Scottish team and the way they play," said Jones. "Scotland is the smaller country, with smaller resources that has to battle harder.

"I see a very loose team that wants to break the game up, that relies a lot on the number 10 [Finn Russell] for inspiration.

"Where they came unstuck at the World Cup is possibly they got their physical conditioning wrong.

"The first pre-World Cup game [a 32-3 warm-up loss in France] gives you a pretty good indication of where a team is going to be. They looked like they had over-ran but that's a judgement from a long way away."


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Eddie gets his wee dig in. Some home truths in there though - we did look particularly unfit especially v Ireland where it all started to unravel.

Also - "The best 'small' team in the world", gives me shivers at the memory of Jack McConnell's "Best small country in the world" comment from back when x(

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Scotland must take inspiration from Japan and try to become "the best 'small' team in the world", says England head coach Eddie Jones.

Jones also suggested Gregor Townsend's side "got their physical conditioning wrong" as they failed to make it out of their pool at the World Cup.

Hosts Japan eliminated Scotland on their way to the last eight, where they lost to eventual winners South Africa.

"Gregor's got them back playing how a Scotland side should play," said Jones.

"[A lack of size] makes it difficult but you can have one-off success like Japan have had.

"You've got to pool all your resources into being the best 'small' team in the world.

"That means you look at everything you do, at how you can win ball quickly - particularly from set-piece.

"You look at how you can win the ball quickly from the breakdown and you need a consistent programme for four years to be at your best to do that.

"You have to play quick, you have to have a varied attack and it takes a lot of cohesion to play that way."

Jones, 59, coached Japan for three years including leading them at the 2015 World Cup, where they lost to Scotland as they became the first nation to record three pool-stage wins and not reach the last eight.

He then took charge of England, winning the Six Nations in 2016 and 2017 before finishing as runners-up to South Africa in Japan at the beginning of November.

His side produced a colossal performance to upset holders New Zealand in the semi-finals but lost a week later against the powerful Springboks.

Scotland's tournament was a huge disappointment, failing to reach the last eight for just the second time following defeats to Ireland and Japan.

Jones' observations about the side's conditioning are at odds with Townsend's claim his squad would be "the fittest at the World Cup".

"We have great respect for the Scottish team and the way they play," said Jones. "Scotland is the smaller country, with smaller resources that has to battle harder.

"I see a very loose team that wants to break the game up, that relies a lot on the number 10 [Finn Russell] for inspiration.

"Where they came unstuck at the World Cup is possibly they got their physical conditioning wrong.

"The first pre-World Cup game [a 32-3 warm-up loss in France] gives you a pretty good indication of where a team is going to be. They looked like they had over-ran but that's a judgement from a long way away."


He's spot on there. Hate to single one player out, but Rambo looked absolutely f**ked early on in every game he started.


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He can GTF though. You don’t see Toony being invited to pontificate on the BBC site about England’s shortcomings in the RWC final, so why the hell is Jones getting asked to run his mouth about us? It’s none of his damn business.

I know that any mention of Indy results in pearl-clutching from all and sundry round here, but at the very least this sort of nonsense demonstrates why broadcasting should be devolved. Scotland is the only devolved country/region in Europe that doesn’t control its own media.


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dargotronV.1 wrote:
Eddie gets his wee dig in. Some home truths in there though - we did look particularly unfit especially v Ireland where it all started to unravel.

Also - "The best 'small' team in the world", gives me shivers at the memory of Jack McConnell's "Best small country in the world" comment from back when x(

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Scotland must take inspiration from Japan and try to become "the best 'small' team in the world", says England head coach Eddie Jones.

Jones also suggested Gregor Townsend's side "got their physical conditioning wrong" as they failed to make it out of their pool at the World Cup.

Hosts Japan eliminated Scotland on their way to the last eight, where they lost to eventual winners South Africa.

"Gregor's got them back playing how a Scotland side should play," said Jones.

"[A lack of size] makes it difficult but you can have one-off success like Japan have had.

"You've got to pool all your resources into being the best 'small' team in the world.

"That means you look at everything you do, at how you can win ball quickly - particularly from set-piece.

"You look at how you can win the ball quickly from the breakdown and you need a consistent programme for four years to be at your best to do that.

"You have to play quick, you have to have a varied attack and it takes a lot of cohesion to play that way."

Jones, 59, coached Japan for three years including leading them at the 2015 World Cup, where they lost to Scotland as they became the first nation to record three pool-stage wins and not reach the last eight.

He then took charge of England, winning the Six Nations in 2016 and 2017 before finishing as runners-up to South Africa in Japan at the beginning of November.

His side produced a colossal performance to upset holders New Zealand in the semi-finals but lost a week later against the powerful Springboks.

Scotland's tournament was a huge disappointment, failing to reach the last eight for just the second time following defeats to Ireland and Japan.

Jones' observations about the side's conditioning are at odds with Townsend's claim his squad would be "the fittest at the World Cup".

"We have great respect for the Scottish team and the way they play," said Jones. "Scotland is the smaller country, with smaller resources that has to battle harder.

"I see a very loose team that wants to break the game up, that relies a lot on the number 10 [Finn Russell] for inspiration.

"Where they came unstuck at the World Cup is possibly they got their physical conditioning wrong.

"The first pre-World Cup game [a 32-3 warm-up loss in France] gives you a pretty good indication of where a team is going to be. They looked like they had over-ran but that's a judgement from a long way away."

There is quite a few folk on social media getting shrill about it. Probably all mentioned how unfit they looked too before Jones did, now they're all saying how fit they were.


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Not sure why Eddie Jones is speaking about Scotland but he's absolutely correct the S&C was horrendous the players all looked goosed from minute one Vs France.


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I think some of you need untie your knickers. What Jones has said is spot on and Toony will probably not be so precious to take offence that he is commenting on us, I'm glad he is to be honest as we are obviously now more of a threat than we have been for years, you only comment on rivals, teams you dont think are close to you, you ignore.


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I assume getting the Calcutta Cup back will be a pretty big target for England in 2020, so it stands to reason Eddie is putting a few shots in - it's what he does. He's not wrong though.


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Lorthern Nights wrote:
I think some of you need untie your knickers. What Jones has said is spot on and Toony will probably not be so precious to take offence that he is commenting on us, I'm glad he is to be honest as we are obviously now more of a threat than we have been for years, you only comment on rivals, teams you dont think are close to you, you ignore.


I'd generally agree. I think his comments are his honest assessment of our current level which I agree with. I actually think he has been pretty restrained in his comments, I would have gone much further (as, based on previous discussion, would most of the posters on this site).

I would agree we were insufficiently fit, but we were also poorly organised in defence, lacking in physicality, unstructured in attack, mentally weak and poorly selected.


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Alba wrote:
Lorthern Nights wrote:
I think some of you need untie your knickers. What Jones has said is spot on and Toony will probably not be so precious to take offence that he is commenting on us, I'm glad he is to be honest as we are obviously now more of a threat than we have been for years, you only comment on rivals, teams you dont think are close to you, you ignore.


I'd generally agree. I think his comments are his honest assessment of our current level which I agree with. I actually think he has been pretty restrained in his comments, I would have gone much further (as, based on previous discussion, would most of the posters on this site).

[b]I would agree we were insufficiently fit, but we were also poorly organised in defence, lacking in physicality, unstructured in attack, mentally weak and poorly selected.[b]


It's a miracle we managed to qualify for the next World Cup. You're not wrong though.


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He can GTF though. You don’t see Toony being invited to pontificate on the BBC site about England’s shortcomings in the RWC final, so why the hell is Jones getting asked to run his mouth about us? It’s none of his damn business.

I know that any mention of Indy results in pearl-clutching from all and sundry round here, but at the very least this sort of nonsense demonstrates why broadcasting should be devolved. Scotland is the only devolved country/region in Europe that doesn’t control its own media.


It was clearly part of a wide ranging sit down. Considering Scotland are one of the first games up in the 6N it isn't surprising we were spoken about. He hasn't said anything that is in any way controversial.


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dargotronV.1 wrote:
Eddie gets his wee dig in. Some home truths in there though - we did look particularly unfit especially v Ireland where it all started to unravel.

Also - "The best 'small' team in the world", gives me shivers at the memory of Jack McConnell's "Best small country in the world" comment from back when x(

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Scotland must take inspiration from Japan and try to become "the best 'small' team in the world", says England head coach Eddie Jones.

Jones also suggested Gregor Townsend's side "got their physical conditioning wrong" as they failed to make it out of their pool at the World Cup.

Hosts Japan eliminated Scotland on their way to the last eight, where they lost to eventual winners South Africa.

"Gregor's got them back playing how a Scotland side should play," said Jones.

"[A lack of size] makes it difficult but you can have one-off success like Japan have had.

"You've got to pool all your resources into being the best 'small' team in the world.

"That means you look at everything you do, at how you can win ball quickly - particularly from set-piece.

"You look at how you can win the ball quickly from the breakdown and you need a consistent programme for four years to be at your best to do that.

"You have to play quick, you have to have a varied attack and it takes a lot of cohesion to play that way."

Jones, 59, coached Japan for three years including leading them at the 2015 World Cup, where they lost to Scotland as they became the first nation to record three pool-stage wins and not reach the last eight.

He then took charge of England, winning the Six Nations in 2016 and 2017 before finishing as runners-up to South Africa in Japan at the beginning of November.

His side produced a colossal performance to upset holders New Zealand in the semi-finals but lost a week later against the powerful Springboks.

Scotland's tournament was a huge disappointment, failing to reach the last eight for just the second time following defeats to Ireland and Japan.

Jones' observations about the side's conditioning are at odds with Townsend's claim his squad would be "the fittest at the World Cup".

"We have great respect for the Scottish team and the way they play," said Jones. "Scotland is the smaller country, with smaller resources that has to battle harder.

"I see a very loose team that wants to break the game up, that relies a lot on the number 10 [Finn Russell] for inspiration.

"Where they came unstuck at the World Cup is possibly they got their physical conditioning wrong.

"The first pre-World Cup game [a 32-3 warm-up loss in France] gives you a pretty good indication of where a team is going to be. They looked like they had over-ran but that's a judgement from a long way away."


He's spot on there. Hate to single one player out, but Rambo looked absolutely f**ked early on in every game he started.


Barclay was another that looked utterly f**ked.

It was clear during the warm ups that they had badly misjudged S+C during camp.

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I assume getting the Calcutta Cup back will be a pretty big target for England in 2020, so it stands to reason Eddie is putting a few shots in - it's what he does. He's not wrong though.


We could have had an easier start than Ireland away and England at home. Both will have points to prove for a variety of reasons.


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Ireland will presumably be in transition with an unproven head coach and a few new faces/ideas. This is our best chance Vs Ireland on paper in a long time. If we don't play well then yikes.


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 19, 2019 1:28 pm 
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I don't see any "digs" in what Jones is saying. He's only saying what most of us have been saying and considering how much of a snidey goblin he usually is it's actually fairly boring. Some of the panty wetting on social media is embarrassing.


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 19, 2019 3:53 pm 
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Steamin Beamin wrote:
I don't see any "digs" in what Jones is saying. He's only saying what most of us have been saying and considering how much of a snidey goblin he usually is it's actually fairly boring. Some of the panty wetting on social media is embarrassing.

Calling us a small team is not getting a dig in? A sideways dig but a dig nonetheless, presumably delivered with the usual EJ smirk. The rest is fair game. Haven't read any of the social media commentary on it so no idea what's being said there.

What will be of interest is how GT responds to the RWC performance.

Who is the S&C coach anyway? Is it Lamont?


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dargotronV.1 wrote:
What will be of interest is how GT responds to the RWC performance.


His job may depend on it.


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Big D wrote:
dargotronV.1 wrote:
What will be of interest is how GT responds to the RWC performance.


His job may depend on it.

It should. Hes failed the last 2 targets set


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