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PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2018 2:48 pm 
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RampantLion wrote:
fudge off noob??

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It’s a bored rule that new posters should be greeted with fvck off noob.

Unfortunately bored software changes that to fudge.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2018 2:50 pm 
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Lol.. Not pictures of fudge then haha.


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Daryl Marfo has signed on for 2 more years. He's definitely earned it.


Indeed. First pro deal for Charlie Shiel too.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2018 3:02 pm 
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Lol.. Not pictures of fudge then haha.


No. Anyway, it’s good to have another Scottish poster. Welcome.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2018 3:33 pm 
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The narrowness of the Irish defense was exploited last year. Surely they wont set up the same again. That being said, Toony and co have changed and adapted their attacking game plan every match so if the Irish set up one way, we will have other attacking options (I am politely ignoring the Welsh game where we had no plan B).


So narrow they couldnt even prevent our centre scoring from a lineout


I can just watch and watch and watch that one :smug:

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How good would it be if we pulled off something similar again. Not sure I could contain myself.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2018 3:39 pm 
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I'm going to be with the inlaws in Belfast, probably watching the game in a pub. I will definitely not be able to contain myself if something like that happens again.

I expect lots of free drink when we lose :nod:


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2018 3:52 pm 
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Being civilised Scottish rugby supporters I will dispense with the traditional bored welcome for newbies and just say hello.

And yes, agree with most of that.


Boo that.

fudge off noob is an important rite of passage.


Just a temporary response to the Toga led other thread.

As you were.

fudge off noob.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2018 4:00 pm 
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slick wrote:
zt1903 wrote:
slick wrote:
Being civilised Scottish rugby supporters I will dispense with the traditional bored welcome for newbies and just say hello.

And yes, agree with most of that.


Boo that.

fudge off noob is an important rite of passage.


Just a temporary response to the Toga led other thread.

As you were.

fudge off noob.


That thread is full of gammon. It's practically a question time audience.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2018 4:37 pm 
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slick wrote:
zt1903 wrote:
slick wrote:
Being civilised Scottish rugby supporters I will dispense with the traditional bored welcome for newbies and just say hello.

And yes, agree with most of that.


Boo that.

fudge off noob is an important rite of passage.


Just a temporary response to the Toga led other thread.

As you were.

fudge off noob.


Don’t we just tell Toga to fvck off even though he’s not a noob!


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Just back from a week in the French Alps so finally time to reflect on the massive Calcutta Cup win last week.

Watched the game in a hotel lobby in Val Thorens slowly going berzerk in the company of loads of bemused Dutch and Danes at check-in peak time. Just me and my two sons, glued to the big screen at reception while the desk dolly kept telling my increasingly irate wife that our apartment was not yet ready as it had not been cleaned. This may have been the first time in my life I was fully on-side with work-shy cleaning staff. And the desk dolly may in fact have been a highly sensitive intellectual as she conjured up our apartment keys right at the full-time whistle.

Sorry for the lack of insight - par for the course, aye - but everything that needed saying has already been said ten times over. SCOTLAND!


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I see that Jonny's brother managed 80 mins for Toulouse yesterday :thumbup:


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zt1903 wrote:
I see that Jonny's brother managed 80 mins for Toulouse yesterday :thumbup:


Not sure Jonny's last few outings still justify calling Richie that...


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Doc Rob wrote:
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I see that Jonny's brother managed 80 mins for Toulouse yesterday :thumbup:


Not sure Jonny's last few outings still justify calling Richie that...


J Gray's performance Vs England was perhaps his best for Scotland. If he'd not played so well I'd have liked to see R Gray and Gilcho start as both are impactful.

Fwiw, when's R Gray's time in France up? Surely at some point he'll want to be offered the home comforts the SRU offer. Is it this summer? Would be ideal pre WC.


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Jonny was top tackler, per usual wasn't he?

Would prefer to see both Grays start.


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Jonny was top tackler, per usual wasn't he?

Would prefer to see both Grays start.


This :thumbup:


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Smutley wrote:
Jonny was top tackler, per usual wasn't he?

Would prefer to see both Grays start.


And finally his tackles were dominant. Too often we've marvelled over how many tackles Gray has made but we've been beaten up. Finally he dominated contact which is why he looked better than Itoje and Launchbury.

I'd not have R Gray in the side. He's only played one game in a long time - although I suppose you could say the same for Swinson. Maybe bench him but Gilchrist is having a v good season so he deserves the start.


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I like haggis wrote:
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Jonny was top tackler, per usual wasn't he?

Would prefer to see both Grays start.


And finally his tackles were dominant. Too often we've marvelled over how many tackles Gray has made but we've been beaten up. Finally he dominated contact which is why he looked better than Itoje and Launchbury.

I'd not have R Gray in the side. He's only played one game in a long time - although I suppose you could say the same for Swinson. Maybe bench him but Gilchrist is having a v good season so he deserves the start.


Gilchrist has finally had a good game for Scotland, when the Grays have been solid performers for a while now. Johnny fell off from his initial impact but is now back.

Itoje is struggling to back up last years form, it happens.

I would like the Grays starting if all are fit with Gilchrist off the bench.


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Thought Gilco was pretty average against England, in fact if we had lost he would have been taking pelters.


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Thought Gilco was pretty average against England, in fact if we had lost he would have been taking pelters.


He was ok apart from 2 dumb pens that he shouldn’t have conceded in the first half, he was v good against France though. Swinson made little impact and was a drop in quality when he came on but I’ve never thought he was more than adequate at this level.


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I like haggis wrote:
Doc Rob wrote:
zt1903 wrote:
I see that Jonny's brother managed 80 mins for Toulouse yesterday :thumbup:


Not sure Jonny's last few outings still justify calling Richie that...


J Gray's performance Vs England was perhaps his best for Scotland. If he'd not played so well I'd have liked to see R Gray and Gilcho start as both are impactful.

Fwiw, when's R Gray's time in France up? Surely at some point he'll want to be offered the home comforts the SRU offer. Is it this summer? Would be ideal pre WC.


Jonny was better v England, but I still didn’t think he was as good as he can be. All about opinions, I guess.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 12:46 am 
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Thought Gilco was pretty average against England, in fact if we had lost he would have been taking pelters.


He was ok apart from 2 dumb pens that he shouldn’t have conceded in the first half, he was v good against France though. Swinson made little impact and was a drop in quality when he came on but I’ve never thought he was more than adequate at this level.


And when he waved Farrell through...


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frillage wrote:
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Thought Gilco was pretty average against England, in fact if we had lost he would have been taking pelters.


He was ok apart from 2 dumb pens that he shouldn’t have conceded in the first half, he was v good against France though. Swinson made little impact and was a drop in quality when he came on but I’ve never thought he was more than adequate at this level.


And when he waved Farrell through...


I think that was more a team defensive issue than one player. Blind side with equal or greater numbers, but of forwards vs backs, and they just sat back for England to run a line. Small note Gilchrist won the first penalty of the match which was pretty important I guess.


On another topic, the 7s team have once again conspired to start a tournament well, narrowly losing to the Cup finalists in the last play, to getting knocked out in Shield semis rather limply in the same manner vs Canada.


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Gilchrist is a smart player, and a good leader on the park, but lacks power at this level. We scrum much better with Richie and he has much more impact in the loose (mostly defensively it has to be said). With him and Nel back our scrum might even become a weapon instead of damage limitation.

That said, I agree it's probably too soon for him.

Do we think Nel should start against Ireland? Bit harsh on Berghan who has been great and whose smashing of people at close quarters may be invaluable.


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Berghan to start with Nel on bench for me.

R Gray on bench instead of Swinson.


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Revised Scotland squad:

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Brown! Gray the Elder! Horne the Younger! Dunbar! Marfo!


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Hardie back in as well


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Excellent. They don't stand a chance.

Good to see Townsend having selection conundra, and us finishing the 6N with a stronger squad than we started.

You will all be pleased to hear I managed to drop Batman's grinning vizzog into a slide presentation in Bristol last week. All taken in good part as well (tbf that has been the uniform response from the English - genuinely pleased that we are back at the top table as genuine contenders).


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16 further changes to the training squad (10 players added and 6 trimmed). Here's a quick update on the ins and outs plus a revised Depth Chart:

https://wp.me/p68WtH-7XD


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Socino signs for Edinburgh from Newcastle.


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I don't watch much AP so what does Harris bring that Scott doesn't?


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I don't watch much AP so what does Harris bring that Scott doesn't?


Not much.


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16 further changes to the training squad (10 players added and 6 trimmed). Here's a quick update on the ins and outs plus a revised Depth Chart:

https://wp.me/p68WtH-7XD

Cool, could get a semi-decent "new and returning" XV out of that:

Marfo, Brown, Fagerson; Gray, Swinson; Bradbury, Hardie, Denton; G Horne, Naebody; McGuigan, Dunbar, Bennett, Jones; Kinghorn

10 though :blush:


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zt1903 wrote:
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I don't watch much AP so what does Harris bring that Scott doesn't?


Not much.


Toonie rates Harris's defensive work, so presumably that.

If Taylor and Dunbar get back fit and when Johnson qualifies I don't think either will be in too many more squads though.


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topofthemoon wrote:
16 further changes to the training squad (10 players added and 6 trimmed). Here's a quick update on the ins and outs plus a revised Depth Chart:

https://wp.me/p68WtH-7XD


As a Warriors fan I should be used to the Toony Tombola, but some of this smacks of tinkering for the sake of it. imho


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I like haggis wrote:
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I don't watch much AP so what does Harris bring that Scott doesn't?


Not much.


Toonie rates Harris's defensive work, so presumably that.

If Taylor and Dunbar get back fit and when Johnson qualifies I don't think either will be in too many more squads though.


I still think Scott has something to offer.


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Achahoish wrote:
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16 further changes to the training squad (10 players added and 6 trimmed). Here's a quick update on the ins and outs plus a revised Depth Chart:

https://wp.me/p68WtH-7XD


As a Warriors fan I should be used to the Toony Tombola, but some of this smacks of tinkering for the sake of it. imho

I think there's a fair bit of planning going on for the 2019 RWC. In his first year in the job Toony's managed to get a decent look in camp at pretty much all the realistic candidates for the squad for Japan - even the bolters have probably been taken care of with the likes of Fagerson jr., Shiel, Hastings, Graham, Crosbie being invited to train at various times. Good to know how everyone responds to these kind of environments and interacts with the coaching staff etc.


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Doc Rob wrote:
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I don't watch much AP so what does Harris bring that Scott doesn't?


Not much.


Toonie rates Harris's defensive work, so presumably that.

If Taylor and Dunbar get back fit and when Johnson qualifies I don't think either will be in too many more squads though.


I still think Scott has something to offer.


He needs a clean bill of health and Cockers/Hodge to use him as a 12 who is a second playmaker but retaining that burst.

Cotter and Solly ruined his game by trying his as a crash ball 12. Just not his style at all.

I don't this he's banging the table for inclusion at present. I watched the Gloucester Newcastle game and Scott wasn't so good, Harris does mix it up in defence but a bit too limited to really push for consistent selection.


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I like haggis wrote:
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I like haggis wrote:
zt1903 wrote:
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I don't watch much AP so what does Harris bring that Scott doesn't?


Not much.


Toonie rates Harris's defensive work, so presumably that.

If Taylor and Dunbar get back fit and when Johnson qualifies I don't think either will be in too many more squads though.


I still think Scott has something to offer.


He needs a clean bill of health and Cockers/Hodge to use him as a 12 who is a second playmaker but retaining that burst.

Cotter and Solly ruined his game by trying his as a crash ball 12. Just not his style at all.

I don't this he's banging the table for inclusion at present. I watched the Gloucester Newcastle game and Scott wasn't so good, Harris does mix it up in defence but a bit too limited to really push for consistent selection.


He's been in and out the team so it's understandable that Scott isn't firing on all cylinders. And due that he probably shouldn't be in the squad now. If he is fit and on form he should be in most squads. He was lighting up the English league before injury last season.

Will be interesting to see whether Edinburgh can get him healthy and back to his best.


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He's been in and out the team so it's understandable that Scott isn't firing on all cylinders. And due that he probably shouldn't be in the squad now. If he is fit and on form he should be in most squads. He was lighting up the English league before injury last season.

Will be interesting to see whether Edinburgh can get him healthy and back to his best.


This. At his best Scott has plenty to add to our squad. He may not be an automatic starter, but when a player of the quality of Mark Bennett might not be an automatic starter either, that is no slight on him.

Our centre options really are astounding. Jones, Horne, Taylor, Dunbar, Bennett, Scott and Grigg are all of sufficient class at international level in my opinion, with some being outstanding at that level. With others breaking through in the next few years and none of these really close to retirement, it will be increasingly the case that the likes of Scott have to do something really special just to make the squad.


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