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Posted: **Fri Apr 20, 2018 3:17 pm**

Steamin Beamin wrote:
Alba wrote:
dargotronV.1 wrote:Welcoming the fair bit of press to this issue with psychology, this is a good article from Rob Robertson, clearly it's helped Hogg focus better and his Toonie backed decision to turn his back on a potentially career defining move to the Nordies in hindsight was a sound one. Wonder if a certain young departing fly half would have benefited from similar guidance.

An important issue and pleased it's seeing the light of day. Think a Scottish players union (mooted?) will help players too...
Forgive my ignorance, but having read a number of articles around the players union and why the SRU should have set one up by now, I am still in the dark as to why it has anything at all to do with the SRU? Surely the whole point of such an organisation is that it is set up by the players, for the players and independent of the governing body?

There was chat during the 6N about a "breakaway" players union being formed. I'm sure I saw stuff on twitter about it too, Barclay may have been one of the guys leading the way on it.

Maybe Ally Hogg? Certainly someone based down south.

It would be separate from the SRU anyway, yes.

Posted: **Sat Apr 21, 2018 8:34 pm**

Really excited to see the 1872 next week. So much on the line for Edinburgh - whilst they crumble under pressure they front up against Glasgow so might be an ideal 'big' game for them.

On Glasgow - it's pretty pathetic Russell is playing the way he is. I don't mind the try too hard brain melt Russell we see from time to time as he plays incredibly well others. But it doesn't even look like he's trying for Glasgow nowadays. He needs to buck up his ideas or he'll replace Dan Carter alright, just he'll replace the Dan Carter who is currently on the bench.

Ali Price has had a real shocker of a season, Alex Dunbar is an average center at best - his defence isn't close to being as good as made out, Matt Fagerson is a hell of a prospect but how is it he's their front foot carrier a 19 year old who might not even be ana8 - how come a big bruiser 8 hasn't been signed? Scott Cummings hasn't kicked on from his time in the 20s yet.

For a side who's won as many matches as Glasgow, it's all a bit of a mess.

Posted: **Sat Apr 21, 2018 11:42 pm**

I like haggis wrote:Really excited to see the 1872 next week. So much on the line for Edinburgh - whilst they crumble under pressure they front up against Glasgow so might be an ideal 'big' game for them.

On Glasgow - it's pretty pathetic Russell is playing the way he is. I don't mind the try too hard brain melt Russell we see from time to time as he plays incredibly well others. But it doesn't even look like he's trying for Glasgow nowadays. He needs to buck up his ideas or he'll replace Dan Carter alright, just he'll replace the Dan Carter who is currently on the bench.

Ali Price has had a real shocker of a season, Alex Dunbar is an average center at best - his defence isn't close to being as good as made out, Matt Fagerson is a hell of a prospect but how is it he's their front foot carrier a 19 year old who might not even be ana8 - how come a big bruiser 8 hasn't been signed? Scott Cummings hasn't kicked on from his time in the 20s yet.

For a side who's won as many matches as Glasgow, it's all a bit of a mess.

this season, Russell has been dropped, dropped again and will maybe be dropped again if he keeps playing like that. He coasts through games regardless of how he's playing so inevitably his current poor form just makes him look lazy and uninterested. I think it's just his manner, his attitude is what makes him on his day near unplayable, but for me Hastings can't come good soon enough (Hoping to heck he does). The SRU meanwhile will be pleased to have Finn off the payroll.

As for the others... it's a sair fecht that's put young Fagerson at the vanguard of Glasgow's carrying... He'll hopefully be all the better for it. Cummings has not kicked on yet but has picked up a couple injuries to stunt his progress. Dunbar has not looked at his best for a couple seasons now... He has been a good servant for club and country but like say Wilson will only add so much at international level. I think Johnson might be Glasgow's preferred longer term option in there. He would link better with Jones or Grigg.

Horne jnr needs to kick on next season like we know he can. Price has not done so this year, he's kind of gone backwards if anything as Pyrgos looks the better 9 atm.

I think one of the issues this year has been some of the fairly average signings made by Rennie - Halanukonuka is pretty gash and looks frankly unfit, Kebble is lumbering and injury prone, Masaga is on a jolly, and Jones has flattered to deceive. In fairness Gibbins has looked the part, and Turner has come in and done well.

We'll see how the playoffs go, but given the 6th place last year this was always going to be a rebuilding year. Next year will be the time to judge Rennie.

Posted: **Sat Apr 21, 2018 11:47 pm**

Oh and Seymour is trading quite well on his reputation at the moment, he's been rubbish this year, by the standards we've all come to expect from him.

Posted: **Sun Apr 22, 2018 12:16 am**

Did think the weegies could at least have not coughed up a BP today. I suspect Edinburgh will have to beat them if they want the playoff spot.

Posted: **Sun Apr 22, 2018 12:26 am**

Doc Rob wrote:Did think the weegies could at least have not coughed up a BP today. I suspect Edinburgh will have to beat them if they want the playoff spot.

They were a disgrace today and if they turn it on next week and an unlikely sequence of events sees Edinburgh with zero points and Ulster with 5.....

Posted: **Sun Apr 22, 2018 8:08 am**

dargotronV.1 wrote:[
this season, Russell has been dropped, dropped again and will maybe be dropped again if he keeps playing like that. He coasts through games regardless of how he's playing so inevitably his current poor form just makes him look lazy and uninterested. I think it's just his manner, his attitude is what makes him on his day near unplayable, but for me Hastings can't come good soon enough (Hoping to heck he does). The SRU meanwhile will be pleased to have Finn off the payroll.

As for the others... it's a sair fecht that's put young Fagerson at the vanguard of Glasgow's carrying... He'll hopefully be all the better for it. Cummings has not kicked on yet but has picked up a couple injuries to stunt his progress. Dunbar has not looked at his best for a couple seasons now... He has been a good servant for club and country but like say Wilson will only add so much at international level. I think Johnson might be Glasgow's preferred longer term option in there. He would link better with Jones or Grigg.

Horne jnr needs to kick on next season like we know he can. Price has not done so this year, he's kind of gone backwards if anything as Pyrgos looks the better 9 atm.

I think one of the issues this year has been some of the fairly average signings made by Rennie - Halanukonuka is pretty gash and looks frankly unfit, Kebble is lumbering and injury prone, Masaga is on a jolly, and Jones has flattered to deceive. In fairness Gibbins has looked the part, and Turner has come in and done well.

We'll see how the playoffs go, but given the 6th place last year this was always going to be a rebuilding year. Next year will be the time to judge Rennie.

Good post dargotron.

I think Hastings has been mismanaged, should have been played over Horne at 10 this season because he is a 10. I'm not too concerned about his development because he's only 21 but he needs to be given game time soon.

Johnson has been the best centre for Glasgow for sometime now, will be a very good addition to the Scotland side. Huw Jones doesn't have the skill level to play for a Rennie side reliant on such high level skills.

I think no doubt Matt Fagerson will improve but still where's the rest of the backrow in the carrying? I always hear Rob Harley does the unseen stuff but all the good players in the world who do the unseen stuff (Robshaw, Kaino, Fardy, Shingler, O'Mahoney) you see them do it! I think he's a limited player.

On signings - Jones and Kebble had a full season, were parachuted in before pre season and have had injuries, same with the Nuke who's played for a year straight now - he's probably shagged, I think Masaga has shown a lot of endeavour too. Oh and where are the signings for next season?

Time to judge it all is next season but not a good start!

Posted: **Sun Apr 22, 2018 11:04 am**

malky wrote:
Doc Rob wrote:Did think the weegies could at least have not coughed up a BP today. I suspect Edinburgh will have to beat them if they want the playoff spot.
They were a disgrace today and if they turn it on next week and an unlikely sequence of events sees Edinburgh with zero points and Ulster with 5.....

As I've said previously, it will really amuse me if Ulster win with a TBP and Embra make the playoffs with a LBP.

Posted: **Sun Apr 22, 2018 1:25 pm**

malky wrote:
Doc Rob wrote:Did think the weegies could at least have not coughed up a BP today. I suspect Edinburgh will have to beat them if they want the playoff spot.
They were a disgrace today and if they turn it on next week and an unlikely sequence of events sees Edinburgh with zero points and Ulster with 5.....

Then Edinburgh can blame themselves for losing to Ulster at home?

Posted: **Tue Apr 24, 2018 11:19 am**

So Du Preez is off to join Solomons at Worcester. What do the players like about him that we clearly do not see? Could be the only contract on offer I suppose.

Posted: **Tue Apr 24, 2018 12:04 pm**

OptimisticJock wrote:So Du Preez is off to join Solomons at Worcester. What do the players like about him that we clearly do not see? Could be the only contract on offer I suppose.

Solomons - for all his faults - got the best out of du Preez. Allow him to carve up in the wide channels rather then bash it up the middle and hit rucks. Until his injury he was easily one of the best backrows in the Pro12 when allowed to use his soft hands and athleticism in the wider channels whilst Coman and Grant did the graft. CdP paired with Mata/Bradbury doesn't work as all are looking to carry and none to smash rucks.

Doubt either he or Weir were hugely in demand though, interesting SHC hasn't been snapped up by Solly but I guess towards the end he preferred Fowles.

Posted: **Wed Apr 25, 2018 11:21 am**

Season Passes on sale today to the preferred list in advance of the public sale. In other words the folk who aren't paying by direct debit. Once again our seats from last season have already been sold and we've had to move, same with pretty much everyone we know. Went to the ticket office to try to change to direct debit multiple times in the last year and told we'd be able to sort it in advance of the sale, but then told we couldn't. Bit of a shit show quite frankly, but got the required number of briefs eventually (and now moved to direct debit).

Posted: **Wed Apr 25, 2018 11:44 am**

Biffer29 wrote:Season Passes on sale today to the preferred list in advance of the public sale. In other words the folk who aren't paying by direct debit. Once again our seats from last season have already been sold and we've had to move, same with pretty much everyone we know. Went to the ticket office to try to change to direct debit multiple times in the last year and told we'd be able to sort it in advance of the sale, but then told we couldn't. Bit of a shit show quite frankly, but got the required number of briefs eventually (and now moved to direct debit).

Sorry, is this for Scotland season passes and are you talking about debentures? I haven't seen a thing yet!

Posted: **Wed Apr 25, 2018 12:26 pm**

slick wrote:
Biffer29 wrote:Season Passes on sale today to the preferred list in advance of the public sale. In other words the folk who aren't paying by direct debit. Once again our seats from last season have already been sold and we've had to move, same with pretty much everyone we know. Went to the ticket office to try to change to direct debit multiple times in the last year and told we'd be able to sort it in advance of the sale, but then told we couldn't. Bit of a shit show quite frankly, but got the required number of briefs eventually (and now moved to direct debit).
Sorry, is this for Scotland season passes and are you talking about debentures? I haven't seen a thing yet!

Scotland Season Passes -"Access to Scotland Season Passes is available to a restricted Pre-Sale group from 10am Wednesday 25 to Midnight Monday 30 April."

Posted: **Wed Apr 25, 2018 2:07 pm**

Biffer29 wrote:
slick wrote:
Biffer29 wrote:Season Passes on sale today to the preferred list in advance of the public sale. In other words the folk who aren't paying by direct debit. Once again our seats from last season have already been sold and we've had to move, same with pretty much everyone we know. Went to the ticket office to try to change to direct debit multiple times in the last year and told we'd be able to sort it in advance of the sale, but then told we couldn't. Bit of a shit show quite frankly, but got the required number of briefs eventually (and now moved to direct debit).
Sorry, is this for Scotland season passes and are you talking about debentures? I haven't seen a thing yet!
Scotland Season Passes -"Access to Scotland Season Passes is available to a restricted Pre-Sale group from 10am Wednesday 25 to Midnight Monday 30 April."

Ahh OK, I haven't had any of my debenture stuff through yet.

Posted: **Wed Apr 25, 2018 4:34 pm**

slick wrote:
Biffer29 wrote:
slick wrote:
Biffer29 wrote:Season Passes on sale today to the preferred list in advance of the public sale. In other words the folk who aren't paying by direct debit. Once again our seats from last season have already been sold and we've had to move, same with pretty much everyone we know. Went to the ticket office to try to change to direct debit multiple times in the last year and told we'd be able to sort it in advance of the sale, but then told we couldn't. Bit of a shit show quite frankly, but got the required number of briefs eventually (and now moved to direct debit).
Sorry, is this for Scotland season passes and are you talking about debentures? I haven't seen a thing yet!
Scotland Season Passes -"Access to Scotland Season Passes is available to a restricted Pre-Sale group from 10am Wednesday 25 to Midnight Monday 30 April."
Ahh OK, I haven't had any of my debenture stuff through yet.

Picked up a couple today, from being members of the Scotland Supporters Club this year, two Tiks in the very back row of the East Stand, happy with that.

Posted: **Fri Apr 27, 2018 10:54 am**

Posted: **Fri Apr 27, 2018 11:26 am**

I think Glasgow the plucky underdogs might come good for this game, their team looks a lot stronger than the one that folded like a wet paper bag v Ulster, more threat with Horne / DTH and more leadership and grunt with JG. If Russell can play the percentages then I could see them prevailing.

Posted: **Fri Apr 27, 2018 9:47 pm**

Match preview for Edinburgh v Glasgow pt III.

https://wp.me/p68WtH-7Yl

Happy just to get this one out of the way with no injuries for either side!

Posted: **Fri Apr 27, 2018 10:50 pm**

Not too fussed if Glasgow win as long as Embra get a LBP to secure a playoff slot.

Posted: **Fri Apr 27, 2018 10:56 pm**

I like haggis wrote:
OptimisticJock wrote:So Du Preez is off to join Solomons at Worcester. What do the players like about him that we clearly do not see? Could be the only contract on offer I suppose.
Solomons - for all his faults - got the best out of du Preez. Allow him to carve up in the wide channels rather then bash it up the middle and hit rucks. Until his injury he was easily one of the best backrows in the Pro12 when allowed to use his soft hands and athleticism in the wider channels whilst Coman and Grant did the graft. CdP paired with Mata/Bradbury doesn't work as all are looking to carry and none to smash rucks.

Doubt either he or Weir were hugely in demand though, interesting SHC hasn't been snapped up by Solly but I guess towards the end he preferred Fowles.

Solomons is an incredibly loyal man to his former players.

Posted: **Sat Apr 28, 2018 4:02 am**

Very first phase of the Singapore Sevens, and what does it include?

Yep, you guessed it, Scotland losing the kick-off receipt and conceding with just 40 seconds gone.

Posted: **Sat Apr 28, 2018 4:22 am**

A good recovery, but ultimately more bursts of shite play (godawful defence) lost the game at the end, with Aus scoring in every attack.

Killer was some lumbered passing after Aus bumbled second half kick-off led to an intercept try. After that Aus just rushed every time, and we panicked every f**king time.

Posted: **Sat Apr 28, 2018 11:23 am**

Another typically pathetic, gormless and gutless start against New Zealand. Afraid of doing anything simple against them purely because it is a team from New Zealand.

Posted: **Sat Apr 28, 2018 11:38 am**

Pouring rain in Edinburgh which will suit Edinburgh more than Glasgow.

All straws will be clutched.

Posted: **Sat Apr 28, 2018 2:33 pm**

Troll wrote:A good recovery, but ultimately more bursts of shite play (godawful defence) lost the game at the end, with Aus scoring in every attack.

Killer was some lumbered passing after Aus bumbled second half kick-off led to an intercept try. After that Aus just rushed every time, and we panicked every f**king time.

That intercept was always coming, too focussed on fling it wide as quick as possible.

Posted: **Sat Apr 28, 2018 4:06 pm**

And now the sun is splitting the sky.

Posted: **Sat Apr 28, 2018 4:37 pm**

Flags on seats. But why have 2 completely different flags for Edinburgh, one white one black.

Posted: **Sat Apr 28, 2018 7:12 pm**

Last minute changes...
Gray, Johnson and Seymour out, Horne, Jones and Cummings in; Kinghorn and Dean out, Rasolea and Harries in. Shame...players I was looking forward to seeing are now not playing.

Posted: **Sat Apr 28, 2018 7:31 pm**

And that's that, Ulster draw with Munster and Edinburgh secure third place and champions cup next season

Posted: **Sat Apr 28, 2018 8:20 pm**

dargotronV.1 wrote:And that's that, Ulster draw with Munster and Edinburgh secure third place and champions cup next season

And all the pressure is off!

Was Kinghorn a ‘diplomatic’ illness to keep him fresh?

Is there a match thread btw? Couldn’t see one.

Posted: **Sat Apr 28, 2018 8:33 pm**

Doc Rob wrote:
dargotronV.1 wrote:And that's that, Ulster draw with Munster and Edinburgh secure third place and champions cup next season
And all the pressure is off!

Was Kinghorn a ‘diplomatic’ illness to keep him fresh?

Is there a match thread btw? Couldn’t see one.

made a thread, just for you Doc

Posted: **Sat Apr 28, 2018 10:00 pm**

dargotronV.1 wrote:
Doc Rob wrote:
dargotronV.1 wrote:And that's that, Ulster draw with Munster and Edinburgh secure third place and champions cup next season
And all the pressure is off!

Was Kinghorn a ‘diplomatic’ illness to keep him fresh?

Is there a match thread btw? Couldn’t see one.
made a thread, just for you Doc

Posted: **Mon Apr 30, 2018 12:23 pm**

Dan MacFarland rumoured to be Ulster HC.

Posted: **Mon Apr 30, 2018 1:57 pm**

Dan MacFarland is Ulster HC.

Carl Hogg coming on the summer tour.

Posted: **Mon Apr 30, 2018 3:51 pm**

I like haggis wrote:Dan MacFarland is Ulster HC.

Carl Hogg coming on the summer tour.

Big blow but good luck to him.

Posted: **Tue May 01, 2018 7:37 am**

Sam Hidalgo Clyne off to the Scarlets

Posted: **Tue May 01, 2018 9:37 am**

dargotronV.1 wrote:Sam Hidalgo Clyne off to the Scarlets

Terrible move for him and Edinburgh.

He goes from first pick to back up and Edinburgh lose their starter and dead eye goal kicker.

Posted: **Tue May 01, 2018 10:58 am**

I like haggis wrote:
dargotronV.1 wrote:Sam Hidalgo Clyne off to the Scarlets
Terrible move for him and Edinburgh.

He goes from first pick to back up and Edinburgh lose their starter and dead eye goal kicker.

His form of late would have you'd think merited a re-think on the salary stumbling block, but he's generally underwhelmed for a few years now. Obviously Scarlets have deeper pockets than Embra. Begs the question, who will be number 9 next year? Can only assume Hickey and or AN other will kick the goals

Posted: **Tue May 01, 2018 11:01 am**

dargotronV.1 wrote:
I like haggis wrote:
dargotronV.1 wrote:Sam Hidalgo Clyne off to the Scarlets
Terrible move for him and Edinburgh.

He goes from first pick to back up and Edinburgh lose their starter and dead eye goal kicker.
His form of late would have you'd think merited a re-think on the salary stumbling block, but he's generally underwhelmed for a few years now. Obviously Scarlets have deeper pockets than Embra. Begs the question, who will be number 9 next year? Can only assume Hickey and or AN other will kick the goals

Socino is also a goal kicker. Got to assume from the offer of a contract until December someone from the southern hemisphere is lined up to arrive October/November.

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