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PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2017 4:12 pm 
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You need a mid-tier legend like Glenn Moore. He would kill it with Canada. Former Heartland player, took North Otago to ne'er seen before heights (i.e. titles) before biting off more than he could chew with the Highlanders. Got work before taking Mid Canterbury to back to back titles in Heartland. Battled with the rest of the crew with the Blues. Seriously good coach, and just the sort that would know how to take Canada to the next level.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2017 5:43 pm 
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Viva la Revolucion! :lol:



:uhoh:


This is Canada. We have rebellions here, and rebellions are lost revolutions. Simplified, it is the premise of "the loser mentality" within Canadian historiography, which has come to dominate the writing and the 'teaching' of Canadian history in the last 40 years.


Damn you for using my degree against me! ... and you're absolutely spot on. :(

(I'll be starting my own rebellion ... though probably won't be ready to go live until next year.)


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2017 6:43 pm 
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Am hearing through the grapevine that both Eddie O'sullivan and Mick Byrne have applied for the job.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2017 6:50 pm 
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Am hearing through the grapevine that both Eddie O'sullivan and Mick Byrne have applied for the job.



How long did EOS last in the US job? Still, beggars can't be choosers and all that


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2017 7:45 pm 
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Pretty sure he lasted under a year with the yanks. TBH, he would not be one of my top 5 choices for Canada. For a 'canadian' coach. Think Moff or the Blues coach would be good choices.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2017 9:47 pm 
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The same unemployed coaches who were deemed not good enough by Dixon and Powers 18 months ago are now being reconsidered? It is a madhouse out in Langford. There are enough rugby brains and knowledge within Canada to get us out of this mess, but someone in RC management has to take hold of the situation.

Get on the blower to Dublin and Ottawa and say RC needs relaxation of certain commitments for the next 6-7 months.

The men's 7s program goes on hiatus until after the Uruguay qualifiers. The guys go back to being XVs players and to their regional CRC teams.

Damian McGrath is told he is needed in XVs with the expressed purpose of going to Vancouver, Calgary, Toronto and St. John's and cracking the whip on the CRC teams.

RC quickly organizes further CRC weeks during the Labour Day and Thanksgiving Day long weekends. It would give RC three domestic 'tournaments' where, theoretically, 100 of the best players in the country go head-to-head against each other.

The best players at their positions after the CRC games are picked for November and the qualifiers, supplemented by 6-8 overseas players.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2017 9:49 pm 
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CanNZ2000 wrote:
Pretty sure he lasted under a year with the yanks. TBH, he would not be one of my top 5 choices for Canada. For a 'canadian' coach. Think Moff or the Blues coach would be good choices.


EOS was there for a couple years. He took over after Scott Johnson left in the middle of the 2011 RWC cycle. Wasn't retained afterwards. Was on about $250k/year at the time IIRC and did not relocate to the US.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2017 10:01 pm 
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CanNZ2000 wrote:
Am hearing through the grapevine that both Eddie O'sullivan and Mick Byrne have applied for the job.


Byrne would be an interesting hire. Sort of outside of the box.


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I didn't and still don't rate Anscombe but he raises the odd valid point.

My advice is this: a Kiwi doesn't necessarily make a great coach. What's James Pritchard up to these days?


Given that Graham henry sent Argentina in the right direction and Wales before that, why he isn't hired to oversea things in a country that wants to improve it's Rugby like Canada?


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eldanielfire wrote:
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I didn't and still don't rate Anscombe but he raises the odd valid point.

My advice is this: a Kiwi doesn't necessarily make a great coach. What's James Pritchard up to these days?


Given that Graham henry sent Argentina in the right direction and Wales before that, why he isn't hired to oversea things in a country that wants to improve it's Rugby like Canada?


He's not suicidal. But might be worth his weight in gold in terms of a couple of coaching terms as he's done (e.g. in Argentina).

edit: my apologies, that's probably what you meant, I've read your post incorrectly. think you're right.


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Morgan14 wrote:
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I didn't and still don't rate Anscombe but he raises the odd valid point.

My advice is this: a Kiwi doesn't necessarily make a great coach. What's James Pritchard up to these days?


Given that Graham henry sent Argentina in the right direction and Wales before that, why he isn't hired to oversea things in a country that wants to improve it's Rugby like Canada?


He's not suicidal. But might be worth his weight in gold in terms of a couple of coaching terms as he's done (e.g. in Argentina).

edit: my apologies, that's probably what you meant, I've read your post incorrectly. think you're right.



Problem is, though, that Argentinian clubs produce talent well beyond ours. Henry had mustangs to steer in the right direction. With Canada, he'd have to corral and get the best out of a bunch of mules and a few donkeys.

Weird metaphor, I know ... but the quality isn't coming out of the age grade systems and until they address that it's going to be the old shuffling of deck chairs on the Titanic ... if our ship hasn't already sunk.


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 05, 2017 1:59 pm 
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I don't think Rugby Canada could afford Graham Henry. While Victoria BC is lovely, he's pretty minted these days and I doubt would do the job for beer and skittles at around 70 years of age.


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Jebb Sinclair has left LI. Has retired apparently, although that but not confirmed by the club. Wouldn't be a surprise as he has been struggling with injuries.


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Ontario and BC squads below for the CRC 'season.' The Rock and the Wolfpack will announce their rosters immediately after the tournament.

I was likely one of the 14 people in the country who watched the first two matches. Mack was outstanding for BC; it is great to see him involved with the CRC. The best player, for me, on the field for the Rock/Blues games was the Rock #7. I have no idea who he is or where he came from, but he played well. If he is listed for the Rock for the 'tournament,' it will be interesting to see if he can build on his Rock/Blues game.

The 'clubs' have to play three games in seven days.


Ontario Blues

FORWARDS:
Rob Brouwer (capt), Lindsay RFC
Tom Dolezel, London St. Georges
Ryan Surgenor, Bytown Blues
Pat Lynott, Bytown Blues
Eric Howard, Brantford Harlequins
Andrew Quattrin, Aurora Barbarians
Hank McQueen, Balmy Beach
Mike Sheppard, Stoney Creek Camels
Lucas Rumball, Balmy Beach
Andrew Wilson, Crusaders
Marcello Wainwright, Toronto Saracens
Pete Milazzo, Toronto Saracens
Seb Pearson, London St. Georges
Paul Ciulini, Aurora Barbarians

BACKS:
Andrew Ferguson, Crusaders
Mario Van Der Westhuizen, Guelph Redcoats
Shawn Windsor, Stoney Creek Camels
Josh Campbell, London St. Georges
Dan Moor, Balmy Beach
Mitch Richardson, Stoney Creek Camels
Andrew Coe, Markham Irish
Rory Mcdonell, Brantford Harlequins
Kainoa Lloyd, Mississauga Blues
John Sheridan, Markham Irish
Kyle Lagasca, Toronto Saracens
Brandon McLeod, Aurora Barbarians

STAFF

Chris Silverthorn - Head Coach
Cory Hector - Assistant Coach
Mark Winokur - Team Manager
Chris Kelly - Athletic Therapist
Rodin Lozada - Video Analyst
Dr. Chris Gallimore - Team Doctor
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BC Bears Squad

Paul Ahn - Vancouver, BC, UBC Thunderbirds RFC
Noah Baker - Victoria, BC, James Bay AA
Luke Campbell - Victoria, BC, James Bay AA
Neil Courtney - Vancouver, BC, UBC Thunderbirds RFC
Rylie Darnardo - Victoria, BC, Castaway Wanderers RFC
Dustin Dubrovsky - Victoria, BC, Castaway Wanderers RFC
Giusseppe DuToit - Victoria, BC, UVIC Vikes RFC
Doug Fraser - Victoria, BC, Castaway Wanderers RFC
Harjun Gill - Vancouver, BC, UBCOB Ravens RFC
Andrew Lackner - Pitt Meadows, BC, Burnaby Lake RFC
Karsten Laitner - Vancouver, BC, UBC Thunderbirds RFC
Travis Larsen - Victoria, BC, James Bay AA
Kevin Leask - Victoria, BC, UVIC Vikes RFC
Anthony Luca - Pitt Meadows, BC, Burnaby Lake RFC
Phil Mack - Victoria, BC, James Bay AA
Craig McLaughlin - Burnaby, BC, Burnaby Lake RFC
Aaron McLelland - Vancouver, BC, UBCOB Ravens RFC
Mike Nieuwenhuysen - Victoria, BC, James Bay AA
Nakai Penny - Comox, BC, UBC Thunderbirds RFC
Cam Polson - Victoria, BC, Castaway Wanderers RFC
Jordan Reid-Harvey - Vancouver, BC, Capilano RFC
Gavin Rowell - Abbotsford, BC, UVIC Vikes RFC
Brock Staller - Vancouver, BC, UBC Thunderbirds RFC
Tua Va'a - Victoria, BC, Westshore RFC
Blake Van Heningen - Victoria, BC, James Bay AA
Kimi Vuratunuga - Vancouver, BC, Burnaby Lake RFC
Shea Wakefield - Victoria, BC, James Bay AA
Connor Weyell - Vancouver, BC, UBC Thunderbirds RFC

Staff
Tony Healy - Head Coach
Phil Mack - Assistant Coach
Des Lynch - Manager/Mental Skills Coach


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 11, 2017 8:32 pm 
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BC, Canada's Rugby Province ... apparently.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RAjZey7Sxo


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2017 8:14 pm 
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Blues/Wolfpack CRC:

It looks like Buydens is at LHP for the Pack. The guy wants to keep going. Good on him.

Is that Coe at #13 for the Blues?

Blues should have way too much for the prairie dogs.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2017 8:21 pm 
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Moor in for the Blues; kick good.

Kyne at #8; Bowd at #10; ;Samson at #13 for the Pack.

Rumball with a Yellow Card; way too early for that to be shown.


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Good midfield passing from the Blues; Lloyd comes off his wing to take an inside pass and the Blues are in for a Try with a man down. 14-3 Blues


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2017 8:38 pm 
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Pack strike back with a Try from Regina wing Baker. Pockock converts. Kyne with good work keeping the ball going forward on the lead-up. The best part of Kyne's game.

Blue strike, strike back, back with another Try from Lloyd. 21-10 Blues.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2017 8:42 pm 
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Lloyd with the hat-trick. He did a good job keeping forward in the tackle. He will be on the Canada A side in a couple of months.

28-10 Blues at HT. Hot day in Calgary today. To the shed for the players, back to work for me.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2017 9:01 pm 
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Blast, Kyne knocks on over the Try line. Good interlinking passing by the Pack, anyway.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2017 9:04 pm 
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Rumball with strong midfield running but poor ball protection. Turnover for the Pack.

Love it when there are no announcers for the match but the field is miked.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2017 9:11 pm 
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Lots of vets at prop: Buydens, Kotlewski, Brouwer, Dolezel. They keep going.

Unfortunately, the likes of the Mackenzie brothers and Wooldridge are no longer playing, too young, too soon. Sad fact of Canadian rugby.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2017 9:29 pm 
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Blues putting the hammer down: 45-10.

Lloyd with his fourth Try. He is still quite rough in spots but is much improved since I saw him last year.


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The mighty Samson replies for the Pack.

The rallying cry for the Pack this year: Thank God for the Rock.

A bit messy, but good ball-handling from the Pack and Pocock is in for the try: 45-22 for the Blues.

Pack need to start Blevins with Samson in the centres against the Rock.

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Bears vs. Rock. Good passing by BC and in for an early Try.

The Rock #7 who I pimped above is not playing. Have no idea who he is, or was.


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Rock lineout should go okay with Phelan at lock.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2017 10:16 pm 
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Great steal by Phelan deep in the Rock end.

He should also be on the A team as we would have someone who can take a lineout.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2017 10:24 pm 
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Rock scrummie tried a box kick; ref in way; kicks ref; ouch.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2017 10:25 pm 
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BC kicking from hand good; controlling field position.

From the LO; passing across the field and BC wing in for the Try.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2017 10:32 pm 
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A bit of nice backline play from the Rock. Their #12 is too hesitant; Rock need more from him. Rock held up over the line.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2017 10:35 pm 
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Yellow to BC; team foul for too many high tackles.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2017 10:36 pm 
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Rock kicker pulls a Hastings. Still 10-3 for BC.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2017 10:40 pm 
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Great lineout D work from big, bad Brad Lester. Both teams a man down. See if the Rock can hold on until HT.


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Is that the good doctor I heard with the big, big F


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Bloody great kick from the half line by BC.


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Another miss kick by the Rock on the final play of the half. BC fullback does a crazy 7s and tries to run the ball out. BC able to clear and, hopefully, the BC forwards give it to their FB.

Rock not doing too badly. The squad is getting big games from their locks and #8 (Hamson, I think). Parfrey with also some good defensive work from #10.


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Second half. Good buildup and passing by the Rock moving down field, but not enough skill. Lost forward.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2017 11:11 pm 
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The Rock #7 from the previous game in on the field, see how he does. He is smaller on a second look.


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Yikes; hopefully P Parfrey did not do a knee in.
Nah; put a little dirt on it and he is good to go.


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