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 Post subject: Serena Williams - ouch
PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2018 10:36 pm 
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Amazing behaviour in the women's US Open final. Can't believe how aggressive and insulting she was to the umpire. The sense of entitlement is just incredible.


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2018 10:48 pm 
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It would appear Osaka didn't read the script. :blush:


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Only following the BBC live blog, but it sounds like disgusting behaviour.

Sure, sport is emotional and you can have an outburst, but the comments sound ridiculous:

'Serena: "This has happened to me before. This is not fair. There are a lot of men out here who have said a lot of things and do not get that punishment. Because I am a woman you are going to take this away from me? That is not right."

"You are a liar. You will never be on a court of mine as long as you live. When are you going to give me my apology. Say you are sorry. "


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Well done Osaka for a Grand Slam win! :thumbup:


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2018 10:50 pm 
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Well done Osaka for a Grand Slam win! :thumbup:


Let's hope this isn't lost in all this.


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2018 10:58 pm 
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Salanya wrote:
Well done Osaka for a Grand Slam win! :thumbup:


Let's hope this isn't lost in all this.


Serena and the crowd are trying their hardest for that. Disrespectful. Dicks.


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2018 10:59 pm 
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Dont follow tennis much tbh but isnt this her MO? I remember her having a meltdown a few years ago in the US open and getting really nasty/personal with the ump. I had to turn the channel over because I couldnt stand her obnoxiousness...... Defo one of the most unlikeable athletes out there.


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2018 11:03 pm 
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Dont follow tennis much tbh but isnt this her MO? I remember her having a meltdown a few years ago in the US open and getting really nasty/personal with the ump. I had to turn the channel over because I couldnt stand her obnoxiousness...... Defo one of the most unlikeable athletes out there.

Yep a long history of scummy behaviour.


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2018 11:09 pm 
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Didn't Mcenroe make a career out of being a cūnt...and apparently he is a hero for it?


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2018 11:22 pm 
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Didn't Mcenroe make a career out of being a cūnt...and apparently he is a hero for it?

I don't think he went as far as threatening to shove a ball down an official's throat.


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2018 11:30 pm 
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Her sister is all class, but Serena is a bit of a plum.


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this is where #feminism becomes #feminazi
did she forget her opponent is also a woman? or does she not regard Japanese people as humans? :evil:


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'roid rage :nod:


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McEnroe is laughed at for being a brat meme.


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How long was Hartley given on the sidelines for calling Barnes a cheat ?

If the WTA had a pair of balls between them, SW would have ended her career today !


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“I have a daughter,and I stand for what’s right for her.You owe me an apology”.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2018 1:30 am 
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What a shitshow.

Completely ruined what is the biggest win of Osaka's career.


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2018 1:30 am 
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She seems quite likeable when shes winning and the last month or so Id kind of warmed to her and the GOAT tag.
Today I remember why I was previously meh whateva to her career.
Condolences to Osaka, hope at some stage you can enjoy the win and really hope you never lose to her.


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Does Osaka identify as a POC? Its a great result for her and Williams outburst should not be the main headline.


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She seems quite likeable when shes winning and the last month or so Id kind of warmed to her and the GOAT tag.
Today I remember why I was previously meh whateva to her career.
Condolences to Osaka, hope at some stage you can enjoy the win and really hope you never lose to her.


Osaka is now 3 - 2 in matches against Serena.


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All the stars of Tennis seem to be horrible people, their true colours are coming out.


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I wish she would fúck off and retire.


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Does Osaka identify as a POC? Its a great result for her and Williams outburst should not be the main headline.


she is pretty dark skinned for a japanese... perhaps she does..


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comets wrote:
kiwinoz wrote:
Does Osaka identify as a POC? Its a great result for her and Williams outburst should not be the main headline.


she is pretty dark skinned for a japanese... perhaps she does..


Haitian father.


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Who was the umpire? Wayne Barnes?


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Immense schadenfreude at reading her cop the penalty and losing. Can't stand the woman.


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comets wrote:
kiwinoz wrote:
Does Osaka identify as a POC? Its a great result for her and Williams outburst should not be the main headline.


she is pretty dark skinned for a japanese... perhaps she does..


Her dad is Haitian


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What a shitshow.

Completely ruined what is the biggest win of Osaka's career.


This! Watched it unfold live and she "stole" the moment from Osaka. She owes Naomi an apology.


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Such an entitled bitch.

How old is her daughter? Not two yet is she because Serena seemed like she was channeling a terrible twos tantrum in that performance. :thumbdown:


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WTA should take some action or look like they accept this kind of behaviour. From memory they did nothing about her outburst at a linesman a few years ago.

6 month ban would be appropriate IMO.


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Some of the b/s she spouted about this in the post match press conference was incredible.

It’s all about “womans rights” apparently.


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Sexist power play ruins powerful US Open final

Chair umpire Carlos Ramos managed to rob not one but two players in the women's US Open final. Nobody has ever seen anything like it: an umpire so wrecked a big occasion that both players, Naomi Osaka and Serena Williams alike, wound up distraught with tears streaming down their faces during the trophy presentation and an incensed crowd screamed boos at the court. Ramos took what began as a minor infraction and turned it into one of the nastiest and most emotional controversies in the history of tennis, all because he couldn't take a woman speaking sharply to him.

Williams abused her racquet, but Ramos did something far uglier: he abused his authority. Champions get heated - it's their nature to burn. All good umpires in every sport understand that the heart of their job is to help temper the moment, to turn the dial down, not up, and to be quiet stewards of the event rather than to let their own temper play a role in determining the outcome. Instead, Ramos made himself the chief player in the women's final. He marred Osaka's first grand slam title and one of Williams' last bids for all-time greatness. Over what? A tone of voice. Male players have sworn and cursed at the top of their lungs, hurled and blasted their equipment into shards, and never been penalised as Williams was in the second set of the US Open final.

"I just feel like the fact that I have to go through this is just an example for the next person that has emotions, and that want to express themselves, and wants to be a strong woman," she said afterward.

It was pure pettiness from Ramos that started the ugly cascade in the first place, when he issued a warning over "coaching," as if a signal from Patrick Mouratoglou in the grandstand has ever been the difference in a Serena Williams match. It was a technicality that could be called on any player in any match on any occasion, and ludicrous in view of the power-on-power match that was taking place on the court between Williams and the 20-year-old Osaka. It was one more added stressor for Williams, still trying to come back from her maternity leave and fighting to regain her fitness and resume her pursuit of Margaret Court's record of 24 grand slam singles titles. "I don't cheat," she told Ramos hotly.

The controversy should have ended there. At that moment, it was up to Ramos to de-escalate the situation, to stop inserting himself into the match and to let things play out on the court. In front of him were two players in a sweltering state, who were giving their everything, while he sat at a lordly height above them. Below him, Williams vented, "You stole a point from me. You're a thief."

There was absolutely nothing worthy of a penalty in her statement. It was pure vapor release. She said it in a tone of wrath, but it was compressed and controlled. All Ramos had to do was to continue to sit coolly above it, and Williams would have channeled herself back into the match. But he couldn't take it. He wasn't going to let a woman talk to him that way. A man, sure. Ramos has put up with worse from a man. At the French Open in 2017, Ramos leveled Rafael Nadal with a ticky-tacky penalty over a time delay, and Nadal told him he'd see to it that Ramos never refereed one of his matches again.

But he wasn't going to take it from a woman pointing a finger at him and speaking in a tone of aggression. So he gave Williams that third violation for "verbal abuse," and a whole game penalty, and now it was 5-3, and we'll never know if young Osaka really won the 2018 US Open or had it handed to her by a man who was going to make Serena Williams feel his power. It was an offense far worse than any that Williams committed. Chris Evert spoke for the entire crowd and television audience when she said, "I've been in tennis a long time, and I've never seen anything like it".

Competitive rage has long been Williams' fuel, and it's a situational personality. The whole world knows that about her, and so does Ramos. She's had instances where she ranted and deserved to be disciplined, but she's outlived all that. She has become a player of directed passion, done the admirable work of learning self-command and grown into one of the more courteous and generous champions in the game. If you doubted that, all you had to do was watch how she got ahold of herself once the match was over and how hard she tried to make it about Osaka.

Williams understood that she was the only person in the stadium who had the power to make that incensed crowd stop booing. And she did it beautifully. "Let's make this the best moment we can," she said.


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Who was the umpire? Wayne Barnes?

Let it go bro


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That’s a satirical article,surely?


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:lol:

That article. Good God


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That article. Good God

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There was absolutely nothing worthy of a penalty in her statement. It was pure vapor release. She said it in a tone of wrath, but it was compressed and controlled. All Ramos had to do was to continue to sit coolly above it, and Williams would have channeled herself back into the match. But he couldn't take it. He wasn't going to let a woman talk to him that way. A man, sure. Ramos has put up with worse from a man. At the French Open in 2017, Ramos leveled Rafael Nadal with a ticky-tacky penalty over a time delay, and Nadal told him he'd see to it that Ramos never refereed one of his matches again.

But he wasn't going to take it from a woman pointing a finger at him and speaking in a tone of aggression. So he gave Williams that third violation for "verbal abuse," and a whole game penalty, and now it was 5-3, and we'll never know if young Osaka really won the 2018 US Open or had it handed to her by a man who was going to make Serena Williams feel his power. It was an offense far worse than any that Williams committed. Chris Evert spoke for the entire crowd and television audience when she said, "I've been in tennis a long time, and I've never seen anything like it".
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Calling the umpire a thief and threatening that she will ensure he will never work again is a long way from compressed and controlled.


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Calling the umpire a thief and threatening that she will ensure he will never work again is a long way from compressed and controlled.


Well quite.

I'm as right on as the next man, but this isn't a social issue. This is an entitled individual callings an official a cheat and getting called out on it. Some cracking whataboutery on social media too.


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Kiwias wrote:
Calling the umpire a thief and threatening that she will ensure he will never work again is a long way from compressed and controlled.


Letters starting to roll in, it would appear not many are agreeing with Sally's piece of didactic BS :thumbup:


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She is a gracious winner but terrible loser. This is over the top even by her standards but it's pretty common for a loss to be followed by the press conference explaining ailments or things not right for her, rather than praising the performance of her opposition.

Will the authorities be brace enough to sanction her? I doubt it.


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Kiwias wrote:
Calling the umpire a thief and threatening that she will ensure he will never work again is a long way from compressed and controlled.


Well quite.

I'm as right on as the next man, but this isn't a social issue. This is an entitled individual callings an official a cheat and getting called out on it. Some cracking whataboutery on social media too.

:thumbup: :thumbup:


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