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Tower Block fire in London?

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 3:59 am
by Brumbieman
Fark, 27 stories up in flames :(

Re: Tower Block fire in London?

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 4:21 am
by Old Man by the Sea
Sounds terrible.

Re: Tower Block fire in London?

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 4:21 am
by TheDocForgotHisLogon
That's looking very very bad. Seems to have spread very quickly and lots of witnesses seem to be indicating a lot of people didn't get out.

Re: Tower Block fire in London?

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 4:33 am
by village
God it looks horrible.

Seems to have consumed the building at an alarming speed and councils were supposed to have checked safety regulations after the one in 2009.

Re: Tower Block fire in London?

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 4:48 am
by comets

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Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 4:53 am
by Jays Myth
Reports of people making ropes from sheets to escape :shock:
I wish I paid more attention at scouts!

Re: Tower Block fire in London?

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 4:55 am
by Yourmother
Image

It looks horrific. :?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-40269625

Another London tragedy :(

Re: Tower Block fire in London?

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 5:29 am
by freewheelan
This is horrible. What on earth could have caused such an intense fire?

Re: Tower Block fire in London?

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 5:33 am
by DragsterDriver
Looks like they've clad the tower in a combustible material from the way it's burning?

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Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 5:47 am
by comets
https://grenfellactiongroup.wordpress.c ... with-fire/

they knew and still allowed this to happen :/

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Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 5:47 am
by Troll
Speechless :(

Re: Tower Block fire in London?

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 5:49 am
by Kiwias
Just watching it on BBC World Service.

Appalling

Re: Tower Block fire in London?

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 5:54 am
by Yourmother

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Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 6:10 am
by Rumham
I saw a fire like this in Shanghai about 7 years ago. That killed over 50 people :(

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Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 6:17 am
by freewheelan
I just saw an interview with a resident who said within 45 minutes of him first noticing the fire the whole building was on fire.

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Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 6:39 am
by TheDocForgotHisLogon
Yourmother wrote:https://grenfellactiongroup.wordpress.c ... -fire/amp/

Predicted to happen.
In the last twenty years and despite the terrifying power surge incident in 2013 and recent fire at Adair Tower, the residents of Grenfell Tower have received no proper fire safety instructions from the KCTMO. Residents were informed by a temporary notice stuck in the lift and one announcement in a recent regeneration newsletter that they should remain in their flats in the event of fire. There are not and never have been any instructions posted in the Grenfell Tower noticeboard or on individual floor as to how residents should act in event of a fire. Anyone who witnessed the recent tower block fire at Shepherds Court, in nearby Shepherd’s Bush, will know that the advice to remain in our properties would have led to certain fatalities and we are calling on our landlord to re-consider the advice that they have so badly circulated.
:shock:

Re: Tower Block fire in London?

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 6:56 am
by wamberal99
Peaches wrote:religiously motivated arson?


The authorities who allow a building like this to be inhabited should be charged.


A building like this in a first world city is totally unbelievable. WTF?

Re: Tower Block fire in London?

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 7:00 am
by Denirostaxidriver
TheDocForgotHisLogon wrote:
Yourmother wrote:https://grenfellactiongroup.wordpress.c ... -fire/amp/

Predicted to happen.
In the last twenty years and despite the terrifying power surge incident in 2013 and recent fire at Adair Tower, the residents of Grenfell Tower have received no proper fire safety instructions from the KCTMO. Residents were informed by a temporary notice stuck in the lift and one announcement in a recent regeneration newsletter that they should remain in their flats in the event of fire. There are not and never have been any instructions posted in the Grenfell Tower noticeboard or on individual floor as to how residents should act in event of a fire. Anyone who witnessed the recent tower block fire at Shepherds Court, in nearby Shepherd’s Bush, will know that the advice to remain in our properties would have led to certain fatalities and we are calling on our landlord to re-consider the advice that they have so badly circulated.
:shock:
WTF. That is terrible. The footage of this is just horrible. I really hope people got out in time.

Re: Tower Block fire in London?

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 7:04 am
by RuggaBugga
Fucking hell :shock: :uhoh:

There are going to be a lot of fatalities from that.

:((

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Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 7:11 am
by Brumbieman
fudge me, this is just f**king horrific :(

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Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 7:13 am
by brat
Apparently a brave Aussie got an axe to break down doors to let people out

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Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 7:21 am
by Willie Falloon
Looks like a lot of fatalities, couldn't have happened at a worse time when everyone is in their bed.

Very sad.

Re: Tower Block fire in London?

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 7:27 am
by Pat the Ex Mat
TheDocForgotHisLogon wrote:
Yourmother wrote:https://grenfellactiongroup.wordpress.c ... -fire/amp/

Predicted to happen.
In the last twenty years and despite the terrifying power surge incident in 2013 and recent fire at Adair Tower, the residents of Grenfell Tower have received no proper fire safety instructions from the KCTMO. Residents were informed by a temporary notice stuck in the lift and one announcement in a recent regeneration newsletter that they should remain in their flats in the event of fire. There are not and never have been any instructions posted in the Grenfell Tower noticeboard or on individual floor as to how residents should act in event of a fire. Anyone who witnessed the recent tower block fire at Shepherds Court, in nearby Shepherd’s Bush, will know that the advice to remain in our properties would have led to certain fatalities and we are calling on our landlord to re-consider the advice that they have so badly circulated.
:shock:
How is that even possibly allowable?!

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Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 7:30 am
by Market Square Hero
brat wrote:Apparently a brave Aussie got an axe to break down doors to let people out
Quade Cooper looking for a laptop?

Sorry, too soon.

Looks bloody horrific - did I hear reports they'd been working on the gas supply recently?

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Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 7:35 am
by village
Reports of no communal fire alarms, just smoke detectors in flats. Sounds like the council have done everything possible to make that place a deathtrap.

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Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 7:39 am
by JB1981
Fingers crossed for those in hospital. Reading about a mother holding a child out the window was pretty grim.

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Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 7:58 am
by Maniototo Man
Utterly horrific. I can't think of anything more terrifying. :(

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Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 8:04 am
by henry
Jesus. Horrific. Given the time, scale and ferocity of the fire, and the eyewitness reports, looks likely that there are a large number of fatalities.

UK not having the best of runs at the moment.

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Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 8:10 am
by Rumham
c69 wrote:
village wrote:Reports of no communal fire alarms, just smoke detectors in flats. Sounds like the council have done everything possible to make that place a deathtrap.
Sounds terrible. The reports about the cladding spreading the fire is startling.
The Shanghai fire was started when dodgy welders lit the insulation they were installing and basically the whole building went up immediately.

Also if a fire catches on quickly at a lower level then you don't have much chance at a higher floor regardless of what fancy alarm systems you might have. With no central fire suppression system you are goosed at the higher levels of these older buildings. This is fairly common and a big risk.

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Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 8:15 am
by Crash_12
We have the technology to prevent anything like this, it shouldn't even be a possibility in this day and age.

'Stay in your flat' :uhoh:

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Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 8:17 am
by englishchief
If this was arson, the person responsible should be publicly hung. BBC reporting numerous casualties.

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Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 8:17 am
by Nolanator
Those images are terrifying. :uhoh:

Re: Tower Block fire in London?

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 8:22 am
by Petros
Where was Steve McQueen?

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Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 8:27 am
by TheDocForgotHisLogon
englishchief wrote:If this was arson, the person responsible should be publicly hung. BBC reporting numerous casualties.
Well it's sounding like the root cause is the vulnerability of the building and the people in it rather than a fact a small fire started, deliberately or otherwise.

I also don't get why the press / TV are so reluctant to discuss the scale. The Fire Service and plod will already know if there were 100s of casualties, which looks very likely.

This will also create s$$$$$$$quillions in building remediation in all those cities with similar housing.

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Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 8:28 am
by village
Just imagine living in one of those other 3 towers on that estate, knowing you and your kids are sleeping in a deathtrap too.

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Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 8:29 am
by bimboman
englishchief wrote:If this was arson, the person responsible should be publicly hung. BBC reporting numerous casualties.

Being reported as fire from a fridge ...

This will also create s$$$$$$$quillions in building remediation in all those cities with similar housing.
The continent is covered in tower blocks. They're not rebuilding them.

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Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 8:30 am
by FullbackAce
They say it started on the SECOND floor, :( that means most of the people would be cut off from the ground floor before they even knew about the fire.

This is a nightmare scenario.

Re: Tower Block fire in London?

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 8:36 am
by TheDocForgotHisLogon
bimboman wrote:The continent is covered in tower blocks. They're not rebuilding them.
No, but they'll be installing sprinklers, better warning systems, removing whatever material caused it to go up faster than would have been thought possible, etc.

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Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 8:36 am
by Uncle Fester
Awful. What a terrible way to go.

Re: Tower Block fire in London?

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 8:39 am
by pieman99
Rumours it was a discarded cigarette from an upper floor landing in washing on a balcony lower down.

Shocking incident. Doubt it'll be covered by corporate manslaughter, public opinion will be excoriating.