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PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 8:36 pm 
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I feel for Stander
Looks like he's just been picked to tour to be used as a mid-week henchman


I thought he looked off the pace against the Highlanders


He's well away from February/March Stander, isn't he. He was the first name on most Lions' team sheets then.



He's been carrying an ankle injury since the quarter-final against Toulouse.


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Least we forget...

1993 Warren Gatland scores and wins in the Waikato team that finish off a wounded Lions squad in their last midweek match.
Tour result 7 wins, 6 losses. Tests 1-2 loss.

2005 - no match against the mighty Waikato.

A chance to go back to back wins against the Lions.

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or back to back wins for Gatland in this fixture


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[quote="hp18"Did Lawes not get properly sparked out the other day?/quote

Seemed to be. I wonder if he will be pulled at the last minutes and Cory Hill starts. Gatland not prepared to select him straight out as he knows he'll get caned for it.

Absolutely shitshow bringing those players in.


Get over it you childish fuck


No worse than bringing Marler and Dank Hole in the first place. What a waste of space. :thumbdown:


These guys can't go any worse than the likes of Nowell, Seymour, Payne, Best, Cole, Laidlaw etc etc. It's a shitshow that these guys haven't been sent home


If there's a PR award for the most odious, one-eyed piece of shit on the bored, you're a shoe-in for it.
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Amen to that. Absolute spacker that only surfaced when the Lions Tour came around. Hopefully he fucks off just as quick when it ends.


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Perhaps you lot could take your churlish intra-NH issues to your own thread. This thread is all about the game tonight ...

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Warren Gatland's former Waikato team-mates recall how he devised their famous 1993 win over the Lions
By Nik Simon for the Daily Mail
PUBLISHED: 07:31 +10:00, 20 June 2017 | UPDATED: 08:06 +10:00, 20 June 2017 e-mail

The day before Waikato beat the Lions in 1993, Warren Gatland took his fellow front row forwards to the barbers for matching flat-top haircuts.

He talked them through his latest scrummaging trick, called 'hang heads', as the players took some time out from their day jobs.

It was the sort of innovation that set up the hooker, who balanced rugby with teaching, to become one of the game's most famous coaches.

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'Gatty was always one step ahead,' said team-mate Steve Gordon. 'At the scrum, we'd spear into the opposition and drop our heads down.

'When the ball came in, we'd snap back up into their chest to leave them stunned. They'd be saying, "What the **** is going on?" and we'd snatch half a metre.

'His teaching background helped. He's always had an innate ability to read people and read the game. He taught at Huntly College, a pretty rough Maori school, and they loved him there. He was working with kids from tough backgrounds. He gave people the belief to achieve.'

Against the Lions, flanked by a team of vets, lawyers and plumbers, Gatland, then 29, scored a try in a famous 38-10 Waikato victory.
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He had the skills of a No 10 and was often called Sumo because of his 'pot belly', but was never capped by the All Blacks. His peers, however, soon picked up on his coaching potential.

'Warren's a Waikato boy through and through,' said team-mate Wayne Warlow. 'He's even got a leather couch in the colours of Waikato — red, black and yellow. What stood out about him as a player was his faultless line-out throwing and the way he was always a little bit ahead of his time.

'Ian Foster used to run the backs but Gatty would always be in his ear saying, "Listen up, I've got a few moves for you guys!" He'd get the cups out over lunch and use them as props, talking through these elaborate plays he'd thought of. It's no surprise where he is now.'

Gatland played 140 times for the region and his family home is two miles up the river from the stadium. Wife Trudi often hangs out banners on match day, and has been seen driving through Hamilton this week with Lions flags on her car.

Gatland was a tactical innovator and his team-mates are not surprised he became a coach

As a man-motivator, Gatland used to play on the fact that his team-mates had a chip on their shoulder about being overlooked by the All Blacks. So when the Lions came around, captained by Will Carling, it was a window for the unfashionable region to make its mark.

'Gatty had this theory that if we ran out of the tunnel faster than the opposition, then we'd win the game,' said team-mate Duane Monkley. 'There was no science to it but because Warren said it, we believed it.'

Gatland was the heartbeat of the team. He designed game plans with team-mates Foster and John Mitchell, both of whom went on to coach the All Blacks, and led renditions of Tell Laura I Love Her from the back of the bus.

In his early 20s he developed a strong interest in horses, investing in local stables and going to races with team-mates to get away from the pressures of work and rugby.

'There was a serious tactical side to him but he was also a hell of a funny guy,' said team-mate Doug Wilson. 'He was king of the card games. We played Euchre and the loser had to be his slave for the day. He always involved the young guys but he was a miserable b****** to lose to. He made you call him 'Master'.

'When I was slave, he made me be a human card table — perched on my hands and knees on the bus for about two hours.'

Gatland's mugshot still has pride of place on the wall at the FMG Stadium, where the Lions take on the Chiefs on Tuesday morning.

Now, 23 years on from his final appearance, he is still remembered around the town for his sense of humour.

'He's always liked a gamble and you can see that in the way he picks teams,' said team-mate Richard Jerram, who used his veterinary skills to stitch up wounds.

'He loved Slave for a Day. On tour Warren kept winning so one of the guys got a bit fed up and slipped him a sleeping pill in his coffee.

'It was just before we went on a safari. He was saying, "Oh, man, I don't know what's happening, I just can't keep my eyes open". He thought he had altitude sickness. There was an ostrich pecking on his window and he slept through the whole thing! It was nice to get one up on him… for once.'

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Shame it's being played in the evening. Although tbf, I probably wouldn't get to watch it if it wasn't.


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I for one cannot wait for this rematch.

Chiefs will be pissed off after the beating the got from BIL and will want revenge.


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Gutted I can't be there. :(


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Chiefs $3. Lions $1.35

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Christ, that Lions bench. :blush:


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Christ, that Lions bench. :blush:


Future Lions heroes. :thumbup:


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Jeff the Bear wrote:
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Christ, that Lions bench. :blush:


Future Lions heroes. :thumbup:

Well, I hope so.


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Christ, that Lions bench. :blush:


Future Lions heroes. :thumbup:

Well, I hope so.

After so long training together, the last Lions lineout should function like clockwork :thumbup:


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For those of us who are friends with Enz on Facebook...

You complete and utter cnut !!! You know what you did.


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Enz saying on FB they are being told to leave the stadium, but no one has moved yet, players warming up.


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Is he on the wind up? I assumed so.


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Is he on the wind up? I assumed so.


Don't think so, just said there's been no further announcement.


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Enz saying on FB they are being told to leave the stadium, but no one has moved yet, players warming up.

Are they playing "Dancing in the Streets" over the PA?


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Man seen with a chainshaw.

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Very concerned that Ferris is pitchside on comms without being properly acclimatised after his long flight.

Wasn't there a Welsh pitchside summariser available in Australia somewhere?


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Prodigal son has returned.
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Very concerned that Ferris is pitchside on comms without being properly acclimatised after his long flight.

Wasn't there a Welsh pitchside summariser available in Australia somewhere?


They made him watch Haka's on repeat on the flight over, he's grand.


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Go, Chiefs!


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There's an Irish fan wearing an Iraqi or.Palestinian flag as a cape?


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Stream here if you're a thieving bastard unlike myself - http://cricfree.sc/watch/live/chiefs-vs ... -streaming


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Warren Gatland's former Waikato team-mates recall how he devised their famous 1993 win over the Lions
By Nik Simon for the Daily Mail
PUBLISHED: 07:31 +10:00, 20 June 2017 | UPDATED: 08:06 +10:00, 20 June 2017 e-mail

The day before Waikato beat the Lions in 1993, Warren Gatland took his fellow front row forwards to the barbers for matching flat-top haircuts.

He talked them through his latest scrummaging trick, called 'hang heads', as the players took some time out from their day jobs.

It was the sort of innovation that set up the hooker, who balanced rugby with teaching, to become one of the game's most famous coaches.

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'Gatty was always one step ahead,' said team-mate Steve Gordon. 'At the scrum, we'd spear into the opposition and drop our heads down.

'When the ball came in, we'd snap back up into their chest to leave them stunned. They'd be saying, "What the **** is going on?" and we'd snatch half a metre.

'His teaching background helped. He's always had an innate ability to read people and read the game. He taught at Huntly College, a pretty rough Maori school, and they loved him there. He was working with kids from tough backgrounds. He gave people the belief to achieve.'

Against the Lions, flanked by a team of vets, lawyers and plumbers, Gatland, then 29, scored a try in a famous 38-10 Waikato victory.
Image

He had the skills of a No 10 and was often called Sumo because of his 'pot belly', but was never capped by the All Blacks. His peers, however, soon picked up on his coaching potential.

'Warren's a Waikato boy through and through,' said team-mate Wayne Warlow. 'He's even got a leather couch in the colours of Waikato — red, black and yellow. What stood out about him as a player was his faultless line-out throwing and the way he was always a little bit ahead of his time.

'Ian Foster used to run the backs but Gatty would always be in his ear saying, "Listen up, I've got a few moves for you guys!" He'd get the cups out over lunch and use them as props, talking through these elaborate plays he'd thought of. It's no surprise where he is now.'

Gatland played 140 times for the region and his family home is two miles up the river from the stadium. Wife Trudi often hangs out banners on match day, and has been seen driving through Hamilton this week with Lions flags on her car.

Gatland was a tactical innovator and his team-mates are not surprised he became a coach

As a man-motivator, Gatland used to play on the fact that his team-mates had a chip on their shoulder about being overlooked by the All Blacks. So when the Lions came around, captained by Will Carling, it was a window for the unfashionable region to make its mark.

'Gatty had this theory that if we ran out of the tunnel faster than the opposition, then we'd win the game,' said team-mate Duane Monkley. 'There was no science to it but because Warren said it, we believed it.'

Gatland was the heartbeat of the team. He designed game plans with team-mates Foster and John Mitchell, both of whom went on to coach the All Blacks, and led renditions of Tell Laura I Love Her from the back of the bus.

In his early 20s he developed a strong interest in horses, investing in local stables and going to races with team-mates to get away from the pressures of work and rugby.

'There was a serious tactical side to him but he was also a hell of a funny guy,' said team-mate Doug Wilson. 'He was king of the card games. We played Euchre and the loser had to be his slave for the day. He always involved the young guys but he was a miserable b****** to lose to. He made you call him 'Master'.

'When I was slave, he made me be a human card table — perched on my hands and knees on the bus for about two hours.'

Gatland's mugshot still has pride of place on the wall at the FMG Stadium, where the Lions take on the Chiefs on Tuesday morning.

Now, 23 years on from his final appearance, he is still remembered around the town for his sense of humour.

'He's always liked a gamble and you can see that in the way he picks teams,' said team-mate Richard Jerram, who used his veterinary skills to stitch up wounds.

'He loved Slave for a Day. On tour Warren kept winning so one of the guys got a bit fed up and slipped him a sleeping pill in his coffee.

'It was just before we went on a safari. He was saying, "Oh, man, I don't know what's happening, I just can't keep my eyes open". He thought he had altitude sickness. There was an ostrich pecking on his window and he slept through the whole thing! It was nice to get one up on him… for once.'

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Not taking anything away from Gatland and Waikatos's achievements, but besting a front row anchored by Peter 'teapot' Wright is hardly something to crow about. And what's with the ''Against the Lions, flanked by a team of vets, lawyers and plumbers, Gatland, then 29, scored a try in a famous 38-10 Waikato victory.'', implying that the Lions were all pros? Wright was a blacksmith, IIRC, and my mate used to work with Andy Reed in the local milk factory. :frown:That's the Daily Mail for you...


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Stream here if you're a thieving bastard unlike myself - http://cricfree.sc/watch/live/chiefs-vs ... -streaming


If i was a thieving bastard, I'd say thank you very much for the link. :thumbup:


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:thumbup: Batman is 'down for maintenance' apparently...


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You've got to feel sorry for Liam playing amongst this shower of shit in the backs.


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Come on you Lions!

Do we get a Haka today?


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Stream here if you're a thieving bastard unlike myself - http://cricfree.sc/watch/live/chiefs-vs ... -streaming


If i was a thieving bastard, I'd say thank you very much for the link. :thumbup:


Your thieving bastard friend might find this useful.

http://www.vipleague.ws/rugby/481815/1/ ... nline.html


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How in the hell has Lawes been cleared to play this?! He had a representative from dignitas on the field with him in Dunedin.


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Come on you Lions!

Do we get a Haka today?

Yup. Pretty good one (relative to how good you might or might not think haka get).


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