Planet Rugby Forum

WHEN:
Tuesday 20th June

WHERE:
Hamilton, Waikato, New Zealand



KICKOFF:
Local time – 7.35pm
UK time – 8.35am
AEST - 5:35pm
SA time - 9:35am

VENUE:
Waikato Stadium


TEAMS:

Head Coach: Dave Rennie
Captain: Stephen Donald

1. Siegfried Fisi’ihoi (24)
2. Liam Polwart (2)
3. Nepo Laulala (11)
4. Dominic Bird (25)
5. Michael Allardice (20)
6. Mitchell Brown (14)
7. Lachlan Boshier (15)
8. Tom Sanders (19)
9. Finlay Christie (6)
10. Stephen Donald (100)
11. Solomon Alaimalo (6)
12. Johnny Faauli (5)
13. Tim Nanai-Williams (82)
14. Toni Pulu (21)
15. Shaun Stevenson (21)

16. Hika Elliot (116)
17. Aidan Ross (2)
18. Atu Moli (24)
19. Liam Messam (159)
20. Mitchell Karpik (5)
21. Jonathan Taumateine (6)
22. Luteru Laulala*
23. Chase Tiatia*


Head Coach: Warren Gatland
Captain: Rory Best

15. Liam Williams
14. Jack Nowell
13. Jared Payne
12. Robbie Henshaw
11. Elliot Daly
10. Dan Biggar
9. Greig Laidlaw
8. CJ Stander
7. Justin Tipuric
6. James Haskell
5. Courtney Lawes
4. Iain Henderson
3. Dan Cole
2. Rory Best (captain)
1. Joe Marler

16. Kristian Dacey
17. Allan Dell
18. Tomas Francis
19. Cory Hill
20. Alun Wyn Jones
21. Gareth Davies
22. Finn Russell
23. Tommy Seymour


REFEREES:
Jerome Garces, France

Dunno how many of the Chiefs' Maori were due to back up for this match but I'd imagine Lowe and Mackenzie will want to get back on the paddock ASAP

This was the one game I thought the Lions could run into serious trouble. Based on the Waikatian performances in Rotorua tonight I think that initial optimism has to be reconsidered.
Still, the Chiefs can turn it on when they flick the switch and that's probably how they'll have to go into this game.

We'll be playing 5th choice players, called up because they happen to be in the vicinity. This will be a 50 pointer.

Beaver!

OP says the game is on Saturday. Should be Tuesday.

Grizz Wyllie wrote:Dunno how many of the Chiefs' Maori were due to back up for this match but I'd imagine Lowe and Mackenzie will want to get back on the paddock ASAP

Add Messam and TKB to the hall of shame list.

Ken Barlow will be seething, if he'd only lifted that right arm.

Fitting send off for the Duck if this is his last season.

Marler
Best
Cole
AWJ
Henderson
Haskell
Tipuric
Stander
Laidlaw
Biggar
Seymour
Henshaw
Payne
Daly
Williams

Dacey
Dell
Francis
Hill
Warburton?
Davies - Not so fussed about him being called up
Russell - Not so fussed about him being called up.
Nowell

Bump for Enz to merge

You bastard NHers are f**ked now - Beaver's in control

The Gallagher Chiefs team to play the British & Irish Lions on Tuesday at FMG Stadium Waikato:
1. Siegfried Fisi’ihoi (24)
2. Liam Polwart (2)
3. Nepo Laulala (11)
4. Dominic Bird (25)
5. Michael Allardice (20)
6. Mitchell Brown (14)
7. Lachlan Boshier (15)
8. Tom Sanders (19)
9. Finlay Christie (6)
10. Stephen Donald (100)
11. Solomon Alaimalo (6)
12. Johnny Faauli (5)
13. Tim Nanai-Williams (82)
14. Toni Pulu (21)
15. Shaun Stevenson (21)

RESERVES:

16. Hika Elliot (116)
17. Aidan Ross (2)
18. Atu Moli (24)
19. Liam Messam (159)
20. Mitchell Karpik (5)
21. Jonathan Taumateine (6)
22. Luteru Laulala*
23. Chase Tiatia*

() = Gallagher Chiefs caps in brackets
*denotes Chiefs debut

Looks weak

Lions by 15

Beaver!

Cristian Dacy says yiz are fooked...

Really weakened Chiefs team, missing ten starting players that I can see, Brodie Retallick, Sam Cane, Nathan Harris, Liam Messam, Aaron Cruden, Tawera Kerr-Barlow, Charles Ngatai, Anton Lienart-Brown, Damian McKenzie and James Lowe. Still, I'm sure Rennie will get the best out of the motley collection of debutants, rookies and has-beens that he has at his disposal.

A hammering is on the cards I fear.

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Ali's Choice wrote:Really weakened Chiefs team, missing ten starting players that I can see, Brodie Retallick, Sam Cane, Nathan Harris, Liam Messam, Aaron Cruden, Tawera Kerr-Barlow, Charles Ngatai, Anton Lienart-Brown, Damian McKenzie and James Lowe. Still, I'm sure Rennie will get the best out of the motley collection of debutants, rookies and has-beens that he has at his disposal.

One more wing and it would be the entire backline. You omitted Michael Leitch, who will be playing for the 2nd test vs Ireland, so the entire top choice backrow is missing too.

Enzedder wrote:A hammering is on the cards I fear.

Dunno, I still fancy that Chiefs D side against the Lions dirt-trackers.

Surprised Ngatai, Macca & Lowe aren't backing up. It's not like they did anything last night...TKB I presume is with Ab's

swc wrote:Surprised Ngatai, Macca & Lowe aren't backing up. It's not like they did anything last night...TKB I presume is with Ab's

Are you one of those fans that only watches the ball? The MABs had just 20% of the ball, they would have tackled their rings off. Not to mention all the work those players would have been asked to do at ruck time.

Pretty sure Ngatai has an elbow injury

Lions:

Lawes back. You'd think the players starting there wont feature in the 23 at the weekend for the most part

Ali's Choice wrote:

swc wrote:Surprised Ngatai, Macca & Lowe aren't backing up. It's not like they did anything last night...TKB I presume is with Ab's

Are you one of those fans that only watches the ball? The MABs had just 20% of the ball, they would have tackled their rings off. Not to mention all the work those players would have been asked to do at ruck time.

i'd be interested in the numbear of tackles those 3 made....I can only recall Lowe dropping the ball or kicking it out on the full....in seriousness I thought they'd want to back up and reckon they probably could unless injured. Once in a lifetime opportunity to play lions twice

That bench.

Surely someone like Jon Barclay would do a job on the bench, or is he not Welsh enough?

No Jonathan Joseph!!

Willie Falloon wrote:That bench.

Surely someone like Jon Barclay would do a job on the bench, or is he not Welsh enough?

No Jonathan Joseph!!

On the bench for the first team. Extremely surprised that Liam Williams hasn't made the first team. I'd have him as better than all the other 3.

Enzedder wrote:A hammering is on the cards I fear.

Hope not - I hope the Chiefs make a solid contest of it.

I reminded a bit of the Reds-Lions game at Suncorp in 2013; altho' the Chiefs have more top-liners missing than the Reds did (7 in Wobs camp*), plus the 2017 Lions have had more games against decent-ish oppo.

Best of luck in any case, and looking forward to what could be a ball-tearer.






*I checked of course. My memory isn't up to this kind of shit.

swc wrote:

Ali's Choice wrote:

swc wrote:Surprised Ngatai, Macca & Lowe aren't backing up. It's not like they did anything last night...TKB I presume is with Ab's

Are you one of those fans that only watches the ball? The MABs had just 20% of the ball, they would have tackled their rings off. Not to mention all the work those players would have been asked to do at ruck time.

i'd be interested in the numbear of tackles those 3 made....I can only recall Lowe dropping the ball or kicking it out on the full....in seriousness I thought they'd want to back up and reckon they probably could unless injured. Once in a lifetime opportunity to play lions twice

Two games in two days against an elite selection featuring some of the world's best players? Not sure that would be great for the health and welfare of the players involved.

Ali's Choice wrote:

swc wrote:

Ali's Choice wrote:

swc wrote:Surprised Ngatai, Macca & Lowe aren't backing up. It's not like they did anything last night...TKB I presume is with Ab's

Are you one of those fans that only watches the ball? The MABs had just 20% of the ball, they would have tackled their rings off. Not to mention all the work those players would have been asked to do at ruck time.

i'd be interested in the numbear of tackles those 3 made....I can only recall Lowe dropping the ball or kicking it out on the full....in seriousness I thought they'd want to back up and reckon they probably could unless injured. Once in a lifetime opportunity to play lions twice

Two games in two days against an elite selection featuring some of the world's best players? Not sure that would be great for the health and welfare of the players involved.

Obviously you need to look at each individual players circumstances but I would've thought these guys would've done everything to play...SoO guys seems to be able to back up after origin. Can't see why these guys couldn't unless injured. Messam's on the bench isn't he?

Margin_Walker wrote:Lions:

Lawes back. You'd think the players starting there wont feature in the 23 at the weekend for the most part

That Lions bench is an embarrassment.

You look at those two matchday squads and have to ask what is the point of the Lions tour.

Neither team is a good representation of who they represent.

Margin_Walker wrote:Lions:

Lawes back. You'd think the players starting there wont feature in the 23 at the weekend for the most part

why don't the newbies have official Lions numbers ?

pretty sure the others were allocated numbers as soon as the tour party had been selected.

pretty harsh on the likes of davies and russell if they don't get given a number.

fantastic to see courtney lawes back.

Grizz Wyllie wrote:You look at those two matchday squads and have to ask what is the point of the Lions tour.

Neither team is a good representation of who they represent.

That's a fair comment. What is the point of this game?

Ali's Choice wrote:What is the point of this game?

Precisely - the Lions didn't fly halfway round the world to 'test' themselves agains the Chiefs WTG; and the supporters sure didn't pay top dollar to see a game between two under strength teams.

And while it's great for the Chiefs fringe players to get 80 minutes in the limelight, for their executives it's hardly how they want their franchise to look to the global media.

The two teams would be better served having an all-day session at the Okoroire Hot Springs Hotel.

Grizz Wyllie wrote:You look at those two matchday squads and have to ask what is the point of the Lions tour.

Neither team is a good representation of who they represent.

Maybe provinces instead of soup teams was a better way to go

Ali's Choice wrote:

Grizz Wyllie wrote:You look at those two matchday squads and have to ask what is the point of the Lions tour.

Neither team is a good representation of who they represent.

That's a fair comment. What is the point of this game?

Who knows ? The Lions certainly don't need a match so close to the first test . Definitely something they should look at for future tours

The Hurricanes match next Tuesday will be a similar anti-climax. The home side will be fielding a B-strength backline while the visitors will be made up of players who know their tour is winding to a close.

Didnt the Welsh fans here tell us that facet, dell, Francis and hill would just be holding tackle bags

Ali's Choice wrote:

Grizz Wyllie wrote:You look at those two matchday squads and have to ask what is the point of the Lions tour.

Neither team is a good representation of who they represent.

That's a fair comment. What is the point of this game?

30,000ish people at $100 a head average

Enzedder wrote:

Ali's Choice wrote:

Grizz Wyllie wrote:You look at those two matchday squads and have to ask what is the point of the Lions tour.

Neither team is a good representation of who they represent.

That's a fair comment. What is the point of this game?

30,000ish people at $100 a head average

Fair call, that's 3 million fairly compelling reasons.

The Lions bench

Gatland you bellend

I don't believe I will be watching this one