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Re: Another Vehicle attack in London

Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 6:33 pm
by Winnie
The lengths people will go to in order that they no longer have to live in Cardiff

Re: Another Vehicle attack in London

Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 6:41 pm
by AND-y
Kill yourselves. All of you, you paedo, wife beating shitcunts.

Re: Another Vehicle attack in London

Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 6:59 pm
by Plato'sCave
I'm hearing he moved to Cardiff a year ago. Neighbours described him as a bit of a cünt.

Re: Another Vehicle attack in London

Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 7:01 pm
by fatcat
Plato'sCave wrote:I'm hearing he moved to Cardiff a year ago. Neighbours described him as a bit of a Saes cünt.
Unedited version.

Re: Another Vehicle attack in London

Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 7:05 pm
by Anonymous 1
fatcat wrote:
Anonymous. wrote:When they said he was from Wales I thought maybe it was Fatcat
At least I don't pretend White City is Notting Hill. :proud:
I live off Holland Park Avenue. Holland Park is a bit more upmarket than Notting Hill isn't it.

I live in Holland Park

Re: Another Vehicle attack in London

Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 7:16 pm
by fatcat
Anonymous. wrote:
fatcat wrote:
Anonymous. wrote:When they said he was from Wales I thought maybe it was Fatcat
At least I don't pretend White City is Notting Hill. :proud:
I live off Holland Park Avenue. Holland Park is a bit more upmarket than Notting Hill isn't it.

I live in Holland Park
I'm not sure. I photograph properties in both areas and Holland Park seems to have a certain traditional and unique high-end elegance while NH has more of an urban charm and upmarket cool-design thing going on.

Re: Another Vehicle attack in London

Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 7:18 pm
by bimboman
Anonymous. wrote:
fatcat wrote:
Anonymous. wrote:When they said he was from Wales I thought maybe it was Fatcat
At least I don't pretend White City is Notting Hill. :proud:
I live off Holland Park Avenue. Holland Park is a bit more upmarket than Notting Hill isn't it.

I live in Holland Park

I hope you get requisitioned.

Re: Another Vehicle attack in London

Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 7:28 pm
by Anonymous 1
bimboman wrote:
Anonymous. wrote:
fatcat wrote:
Anonymous. wrote:When they said he was from Wales I thought maybe it was Fatcat
At least I don't pretend White City is Notting Hill. :proud:
I live off Holland Park Avenue. Holland Park is a bit more upmarket than Notting Hill isn't it.

I live in Holland Park

I hope you get requisitioned.
Two bed flat.

Re: Another Vehicle attack in London

Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 7:28 pm
by bimboman
Anonymous. wrote:
bimboman wrote:
Anonymous. wrote:
fatcat wrote:
Anonymous. wrote:When they said he was from Wales I thought maybe it was Fatcat
At least I don't pretend White City is Notting Hill. :proud:
I live off Holland Park Avenue. Holland Park is a bit more upmarket than Notting Hill isn't it.

I live in Holland Park

I hope you get requisitioned.
Two bed flat.
We can all assume one spare can't we.

Re: Another Vehicle attack in London

Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 7:34 pm
by Anonymous 1
bimboman wrote: We can all assume one spare can't we.
No it's the gym

Re: Another Vehicle attack in London

Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 7:35 pm
by fatcat
bimboman wrote:
Anonymous. wrote:
bimboman wrote:
Anonymous. wrote:
fatcat wrote:
At least I don't pretend White City is Notting Hill. :proud:
I live off Holland Park Avenue. Holland Park is a bit more upmarket than Notting Hill isn't it.

I live in Holland Park

I hope you get requisitioned.
Two bed flat.
We can all assume one spare can't we.
2nd bedroom = home office plus wanking chair. No way some politician is going to deprive us chaps of that.

Re: Another Vehicle attack in London

Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 7:35 pm
by fatcat
Ah yes, "the gym". :thumbup:

Re: Another Vehicle attack in London

Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 7:40 pm
by Anonymous 1
fatcat wrote:Ah yes, "the gym". :thumbup:
I bought the flat with compensation I received after 7 years on crutches following a motorbike accident. Things start getting a bit difficult if I don't train for a few weeks.

Re: Another Vehicle attack in London

Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 7:42 pm
by fatcat
Sorry to hear that. :(

Re: Another Vehicle attack in London

Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 7:44 pm
by bimboman
Anonymous. wrote:
fatcat wrote:Ah yes, "the gym". :thumbup:
I bought the flat with compensation I received after 7 years on crutches following a motorbike accident. Things start getting a bit difficult if I don't train for a few weeks.

Save the sob story for the requisition committee.

Re: Another Vehicle attack in London

Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 7:44 pm
by Anonymous 1
fatcat wrote:Sorry to hear that. :(
It's OK I train virtually every day and cycle to work so it's all good

Re: Another Vehicle attack in London

Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 8:13 pm
by fatcat
Anonymous. wrote:
fatcat wrote:Sorry to hear that. :(
It's OK I train virtually every day and cycle to work so it's all good
:thumbup:

Re: Another Vehicle attack in London

Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 9:36 pm
by Gwenno
Plato'sCave wrote:
dantedelew wrote:The vicious deluded twat has been named; Darren Osborne, 47, father of 4 from Cardiff.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-40332616
He's from Weston-super-mare.

I.e. Not Cardiff.
What is the minimum residency period to qualify as a terrorist for your new country?

Re: Another Vehicle attack in London

Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 11:27 pm
by happyhooker
Well that got weird.

Re: Another Vehicle attack in London

Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 11:31 pm
by fatcat
c69 wrote:
happyhooker wrote:Well that got weird.
That happens when Taffcat wades in on race and muslims etc
Don't mention BLM :uhoh:
Shut up, you skinny twat.

Re: Another Vehicle attack in London

Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 11:32 pm
by happyhooker
fatcat wrote:
c69 wrote:
happyhooker wrote:Well that got weird.
That happens when Taffcat wades in on race and muslims etc
Don't mention BLM :uhoh:
Shut up, you skinny twat.
Okay, I'll shut up

Re: Another Vehicle attack in London

Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 11:35 pm
by fatcat
happyhooker wrote:
fatcat wrote:
c69 wrote:
happyhooker wrote:Well that got weird.
That happens when Taffcat wades in on race and muslims etc
Don't mention BLM :uhoh:
Shut up, you skinny twat.
Okay, I'll shut up
You haven't lost a load of timber as well have you? I mean apart from any time you've had your lock-up robbed.

Re: Another Vehicle attack in London

Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 11:49 pm
by happyhooker
No, I've never actually lost any materials from theft, it's always been tools.

I'm still the stocky cûnt you first met, but at 47 it's becoming harder to maintain the 31" waist.

Thanks for your concern 😉

Re: Another Vehicle attack in London

Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 12:27 am
by fatcat
Actually I remember you looking a normal size rather than stocky. Lucky bastard.

Re: Another Vehicle attack in London

Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 3:02 am
by _fatprop
Interesting spin, this was the tabloids fault
"The Mail has misspelled 'terrorist' as 'white van driver.'

Now let's discuss how he was radicalised. pic.twitter.com/HPw2czZiV9

— J.K. Rowling (@jk_rowling) June 19, 2017
http://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/celebri ... wu7w6.html

Re: Another Vehicle attack in London

Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 3:23 am
by Croft
_fatprop wrote:Interesting spin, this was the tabloids fault
"The Mail has misspelled 'terrorist' as 'white van driver.'

Now let's discuss how he was radicalised. pic.twitter.com/HPw2czZiV9

— J.K. Rowling (@jk_rowling) June 19, 2017
http://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/celebri ... wu7w6.html
Why didn't they call him a terrorist? Maybe because they assumed he didn't have political aims, just hate and revenge due to the recent attacks.
Now lets discuss how he was radicalised? Maybe by watching TV and noticing current events. In fact probably the same way the Manchester and London terrorists were radicalised since 2003 when watching news on the mid east.

As long as the West carries on there all this shit will go on.

Re: Another Vehicle attack in London

Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 4:41 am
by Farva
_fatprop wrote:Interesting spin, this was the tabloids fault
"The Mail has misspelled 'terrorist' as 'white van driver.'

Now let's discuss how he was radicalised. pic.twitter.com/HPw2czZiV9

— J.K. Rowling (@jk_rowling) June 19, 2017
http://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/celebri ... wu7w6.html
Interesting that you took it that way.
However, the big question is why was it not flagged as terrorism in the tabloid, it clearly is. Bloke tries to kill people to further a political ideology.

Re: Another Vehicle attack in London

Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 4:45 am
by village
Isn't it flagged as terrorism? They seem to be calling him a terror suspect in all the articles I've seen and the incident as a 'terror attack'.

Re: Another Vehicle attack in London

Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 4:46 am
by Farva
village wrote:Isn't it flagged as terrorism? They seem to be calling him a terror suspect in all the articles I've seen and the incident as a 'terror attack'.
Wouldnt have a clue.
I was going on the tweet.
Its what Trump would have wanted.

Re: Another Vehicle attack in London

Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 4:55 am
by village
Farva wrote:
village wrote:Isn't it flagged as terrorism? They seem to be calling him a terror suspect in all the articles I've seen and the incident as a 'terror attack'.
Wouldnt have a clue.
I was going on the tweet.
Its what bubblefart would have wanted.
Dangerous. JK Rowling is a pretty political tweeter at the best of times and also fond of fantasies. She's also rowed back on that tweet, deleted it and admitted the Mail were right given the suspect had not been charged with anything at that stage.

Re: Another Vehicle attack in London

Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 5:20 am
by Slim 293
Has there been any condemnation from the Welsh community?

Re: Another Vehicle attack in London

Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 5:22 am
by Farva
village wrote:
Farva wrote:
village wrote:Isn't it flagged as terrorism? They seem to be calling him a terror suspect in all the articles I've seen and the incident as a 'terror attack'.
Wouldnt have a clue.
I was going on the tweet.
Its what bubblefart would have wanted.
Dangerous. JK Rowling is a pretty political tweeter at the best of times and also fond of fantasies. She's also rowed back on that tweet, deleted it and admitted the Mail were right given the suspect had not been charged with anything at that stage.
I like to live on the edge.

Re: Another Vehicle attack in London

Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 5:46 am
by _fatprop
Farva wrote:
_fatprop wrote:Interesting spin, this was the tabloids fault
"The Mail has misspelled 'terrorist' as 'white van driver.'

Now let's discuss how he was radicalised. pic.twitter.com/HPw2czZiV9

— J.K. Rowling (@jk_rowling) June 19, 2017
http://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/celebri ... wu7w6.html
Interesting that you took it that way.
However, the big question is why was it not flagged as terrorism in the tabloid, it clearly is. Bloke tries to kill people to further a political ideology.
Did he? I doubt he has a political ideology
The UK’s Terrorism Act 2000 defines it as:

“The use or threat of action designed to influence the government or an international governmental organisation or to intimidate the public, or a section of the public; made for the purposes of advancing a political, religious, racial or ideological cause; and it involves or causes:

serious violence against a person;
serious damage to a property;
a threat to a person's life;
a serious risk to the health and safety of the public; or
serious interference with or disruption to an electronic system

Re: Another Vehicle attack in London

Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 6:36 am
by obelixtim
Slim 293 wrote:Has there been any condemnation from the Welsh community?
Silence implies sympathy for his cause.

Re: Another Vehicle attack in London

Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 6:38 am
by Farva
Its getting into semantics a bit.
And this is what the judge will be doing.
He drove his car into a group of people and stated he wanted to kill Muslims. I dont think it a stretch to suggest that he wanted to kill Muslims and that he was ideologically motivated to do so.
The ideology being Islamophobia.
There will of course be a debate about whether it was a hate crime or terrorism, but again, semantics.

Re: Another Vehicle attack in London

Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 6:51 am
by Slim 293
And he is being held on 'suspicion of terror offences' according to Scotland Yard, so yeah...

Re: Another Vehicle attack in London

Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 6:56 am
by Anonymous 1
Farva wrote:Its getting into semantics a bit.
And this is what the judge will be doing.
He drove his car into a group of people and stated he wanted to kill Muslims. I dont think it a stretch to suggest that he wanted to kill Muslims and that he was ideologically motivated to do so.
The ideology being Islamophobia.
There will of course be a debate about whether it was a hate crime or terrorism, but again, semantics.
Can't his lawyer argue that as he has a phobia he is just ill and needs sympathy and treatment not condemnation and scorn.

Re: Another Vehicle attack in London

Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 6:58 am
by Sandstorm
Is he likely to be part of a network of terror cells in the SW of England?

Re: Another Vehicle attack in London

Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 7:23 am
by Margin_Walker
Think most media outlets will have editorial guidelines about calling someone a terrorist, referring to a terror attack etc. In this case the bloke is in custody and assume it could be seen as prejudicing a trial.

Re: Another Vehicle attack in London

Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 8:24 pm
by happyhooker
Quite liked the Independent's story here- on a phone so no c&p.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/cr ... ebook-post