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 Post subject: Conor vs Floyd
PostPosted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 9:05 pm 
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Maybe someone can help me out. I do not understand why some MMA guys think Conor has a chance at beating Floyd. They are boxing and using boxing rules, I know Conor will try everything in the book but does Conor's camp actually believe that Floyd cannot knock Conor out ?

It would not be a fight if it was MMA but besides payday why is Conor doing it ?
How many here will pay for the fight ? I probably will and have the guys over for a party.


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 Post subject: Re: Conor vs Floyd
PostPosted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 9:06 pm 
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I hope they both lose


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 Post subject: Re: Conor vs Floyd
PostPosted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 9:07 pm 
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He's doing it for the money but he also has a planetary sized ego and probably thinks he can win.

As for your first point, I haven't seen anyone at all saying he can win. He's going to get knocked the fudge out.

Floyd is a horrible plum though.


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 Post subject: Re: Conor vs Floyd
PostPosted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 9:08 pm 
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OP MMA fans are fans of MMA, they don't really understand boxing.

This is just another money-grab for Mayweather, the deck is stacked as usual, just how he likes it.


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 Post subject: Re: Conor vs Floyd
PostPosted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 9:20 pm 
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Old Man by the Sea wrote:
It would not be a fight if it was MMA but besides payday why is Conor doing it ?


I suspect that's pretty much it.

I remember hearing a few years ago that McGregors coach recommends young fighters get in, make a lot of noise, and then get out within a few years with a big bank balance and with body and mind relatively unscathed. McGregor is making a pretty good fist of that plan. He can retire after this fight a massively wealthy man, and can probably move on to Hollywood or something equally easy to keep his fortune topped up.


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 Post subject: Re: Conor vs Floyd
PostPosted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 9:22 pm 
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If mayweather trains he'll use mcgregor as bag practice-it'll be humiliation.


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 Post subject: Re: Conor vs Floyd
PostPosted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 9:24 pm 
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Mayweather isn't known for his knockout power.
I think his ego will want to drag it out to completely outclass McGregor and prove a point for a boxer vs a MMA fighter all the while with him taking far less risk by staying in the comfort zone of his own sport/rules. He's going to try and humiliate McGregor.

Don't think McGregor will gas quite as easily/early as his previous MMA fights that went to a decision. It's the clinches and wrestling that really zaps the energy and he will have had a long lead in time with nothing but training for a boxing match.


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 Post subject: Re: Conor vs Floyd
PostPosted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 9:31 pm 
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Flametop wrote:
Mayweather isn't known for his knockout power.
I think his ego will want to drag it out to completely outclass McGregor and prove a point for a boxer vs a MMA fighter all the while with him taking far less risk by staying in the comfort zone of his own sport/rules. He's going to try and humiliate McGregor.

Don't think McGregor will gas quite as easily/early as his previous MMA fights that went to a decision. It's the clinches and wrestling that really zaps the energy and he will have had a long lead in time with nothing but training for a boxing match.

McGregor looked pretty useless in sparring with Van Heerden. I wouldn't be at all surprised if he is stopped. Floyd won't force it though, you're right. Not because he wants to humiliate but because he is naturally very cautious and defensive in the ring.


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 Post subject: Re: Conor vs Floyd
PostPosted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 9:33 pm 
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Rugby2023 wrote:
Flametop wrote:
Mayweather isn't known for his knockout power.
I think his ego will want to drag it out to completely outclass McGregor and prove a point for a boxer vs a MMA fighter all the while with him taking far less risk by staying in the comfort zone of his own sport/rules. He's going to try and humiliate McGregor.

Don't think McGregor will gas quite as easily/early as his previous MMA fights that went to a decision. It's the clinches and wrestling that really zaps the energy and he will have had a long lead in time with nothing but training for a boxing match.

McGregor looked pretty useless in sparring with Van Heerden. I wouldn't be at all surprised if he is stopped. Floyd won't force it though, you're right. Not because he wants to humiliate but because he is naturally very cautious and defensive in the ring.


I think that footage is something like 18 months old, but yeah he looked pants.


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 Post subject: Re: Conor vs Floyd
PostPosted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 9:33 pm 
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I'm far more looking forward to the shit talking than I am the actual fight.


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 Post subject: Re: Conor vs Floyd
PostPosted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 9:34 pm 
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I think you'll find it's Merryweather.


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 Post subject: Re: Conor vs Floyd
PostPosted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 9:36 pm 
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What's with this McGregor will move to Hollywood trope?

He's barely understandable at the best of times.


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 Post subject: Re: Conor vs Floyd
PostPosted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 9:41 pm 
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RuggaBugga wrote:
What's with this McGregor will move to Hollywood trope?

He's barely understandable at the best of times.


Arnie and Sly seemed to do well enough.


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 Post subject: Re: Conor vs Floyd
PostPosted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 9:59 pm 
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18ChinsOfChinatown wrote:
RuggaBugga wrote:
What's with this McGregor will move to Hollywood trope?

He's barely understandable at the best of times.


Arnie and Sly seemed to do well enough.


"C'mere mista Baand, bin spectin' ye, ye little bollix. Smirnoff ice?"


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 Post subject: Re: Conor vs Floyd
PostPosted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 10:24 pm 
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Nice little arb (sort of) on betfair.

Back McGregor to win by KO, TKO, or DQ at 7.4 (1000 stake pays 6400)
Lay McGregor to win outright at 6.4 (1000 backers stake = 5400 liability)

Adjust both yours and the backers stake slightly for commission so that it's a free bet on McGregor by KO/TKO/DQ

A loss can only occur if McGregor wins by decision / draw (impossible) or Floyd is stopped by a cut, and only then if the cut is a result of an accidental clash, a cut inflicted by a McGregor punch would be a TKO.

Any other outcome results in you breaking even or collecting 1k.


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 Post subject: Re: Conor vs Floyd
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danthefan wrote:
He's doing it for the money but he also has a planetary sized ego and probably thinks he can win.

As for your first point, I haven't seen anyone at all saying he can win. He's going to get knocked the fudge out.

Floyd is a horrible plum though.


I'm not sure Floyd can knock Conor out. Joe Rogen is saying Conor can win.


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 Post subject: Re: Conor vs Floyd
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Old Man by the Sea wrote:
danthefan wrote:
He's doing it for the money but he also has a planetary sized ego and probably thinks he can win.

As for your first point, I haven't seen anyone at all saying he can win. He's going to get knocked the fudge out.

Floyd is a horrible plum though.


I'm not sure Floyd can knock Conor out. Joe Rogen is saying Conor can win.


Isn't it at a heavier weight than Floyd usually fights at?


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 Post subject: Re: Conor vs Floyd
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danthefan wrote:
He's doing it for the money


When you're expected to receive a (US) $75M payday for the fight - can you blame him?


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 Post subject: Re: Conor vs Floyd
PostPosted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 11:22 pm 
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It's funny how rousey gets humilated by an MMA fighter that can box and then another MMA fighter thinks that means he can take on a real boxer


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 Post subject: Re: Conor vs Floyd
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Tehui wrote:
danthefan wrote:
He's doing it for the money


When you're expected to receive a (US) $75M payday for the fight - can you blame him?


God no.


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 Post subject: Re: Conor vs Floyd
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Flametop wrote:
Old Man by the Sea wrote:
danthefan wrote:
He's doing it for the money but he also has a planetary sized ego and probably thinks he can win.

As for your first point, I haven't seen anyone at all saying he can win. He's going to get knocked the fudge out.

Floyd is a horrible plum though.


I'm not sure Floyd can knock Conor out. Joe Rogen is saying Conor can win.


Isn't it at a heavier weight than Floyd usually fights at?

154lbs, he usually fights at 147lbs but he beat Cotto at 154 and Canelo at 152. He actually hurt Cotto at one point in their bout, so he can do some damage at the weight.


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