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Author:  Razor [ Mon Jun 19, 2017 6:00 pm ]
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Based on the man shaming of a supposed awesome English Junior team maybe the Baby Blacks should be on the Schedule for the next Lions tour...in fact based on that power house performance they would demolish the Lions now with just 14 men. :)

Author:  happyhooker [ Mon Jun 19, 2017 6:06 pm ]
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Yes dear

Author:  JM2K6 [ Mon Jun 19, 2017 6:21 pm ]
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I thoroughly appreciate you starting this thread.



SEE, TORO?!?!?!?!

Author:  Razor [ Mon Jun 19, 2017 6:35 pm ]
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Jacobson is the new McCaw... Jordan the new Cullen...and that hooker is the new Fitzy...fudge me what talent...seriously the Lions wouldn't have a farking chance...:)

Author:  Toro [ Mon Jun 19, 2017 7:21 pm ]
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JM2K6 wrote:
I thoroughly appreciate you starting this thread.



SEE, TORO?!?!?!?!


:lol: :lol: :lol:

Not sure I'm giving this one to ya, clearly humorous. ;)

Author:  Hawk97 [ Mon Jun 19, 2017 7:24 pm ]
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Razor wrote:
Jacobson is the new McCaw... Jordan the new Cullen...and that hooker is the new Fitzy...fudge me what talent...seriously the Lions wouldn't have a farking chance...:)


Quite

Author:  Botha Boy [ Mon Jun 19, 2017 7:32 pm ]
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This is the best Baby Blacks team I have seen. They marmelised teams, not through forward smashes, but through skill and speed of thought.

They might be marmelised themselves against the Lions pack today, but boy would they fok them up once they had grown up a little.

Outstanding U20 RWC winners and not a hint of roids or 'just gym monkeys' about them.

The new standard.

Author:  maxbox [ Mon Jun 19, 2017 8:41 pm ]
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Sweet thread

Author:  BBB [ Mon Jun 19, 2017 8:47 pm ]
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I am the only one that thinks that Baby Blacks team wasn't that special and it was more a case of the usual challengers having fallen away badly from previous years?

Author:  Scrummie [ Mon Jun 19, 2017 8:49 pm ]
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Commentators on the tele seemed to be saying that they've been odious little shits in the way they've been disrespecting opponents? Where's that mentality come from?

Author:  BBB [ Mon Jun 19, 2017 8:52 pm ]
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Scrummie wrote:
Commentators on the tele seemed to be saying that they've been odious little shits in the way they've been disrespecting opponents? Where's that mentality come from?

Haka threads?

Author:  Enzedder [ Mon Jun 19, 2017 8:56 pm ]
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Scrummie wrote:
Commentators on the tele seemed to be saying that they've been odious little shits in the way they've been disrespecting opponents? Where's that mentality come from?



It's called fighting back against all the righteous pomposity from a certain sector :lol:

Author:  JM2K6 [ Mon Jun 19, 2017 8:57 pm ]
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Enzedder wrote:
Scrummie wrote:
Commentators on the tele seemed to be saying that they've been odious little shits in the way they've been disrespecting opponents? Where's that mentality come from?



It's called fighting back against all the righteous pomposity from a certain sector :lol:

Sorry, do we need to restart the itoje threads

Author:  Jeff the Bear [ Mon Jun 19, 2017 9:03 pm ]
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BBB wrote:
I am the only one that thinks that Baby Blacks team wasn't that special and it was more a case of the usual challengers having fallen away badly from previous years?


Made a similar point on the main U20 thread. This was the poorest year for some time I reckon. The Kiwis are the only ones that brought a truly competitive team, and even they relied heavily on individual brilliance at times, instead of being made to work for it.

Author:  Toro [ Mon Jun 19, 2017 9:04 pm ]
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BBB wrote:
I am the only one that thinks that Baby Blacks team wasn't that special and it was more a case of the usual challengers having fallen away badly from previous years?


Yeah they weren't that great, some great skills on show but while it was enjoyable to watch some of the other close games, the usually strong teams Weren't great, and I think I read somewhere that England were missing a few players.

Author:  Diego [ Mon Jun 19, 2017 9:08 pm ]
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Botha Boy wrote:
This is the best Baby Blacks team I have seen. They marmelised teams, not through forward smashes, but through skill and speed of thought.

They might be marmelised themselves against the Lions pack today, but boy would they fok them up once they had grown up a little.

Outstanding U20 RWC winners and not a hint of roids or 'just gym monkeys' about them.

The new standard.

2011 shirley

Quote:
1. Solomona Sakalia - Went on to represent the Chiefs in 2013 SR & now playing Mitre 10 Cup for Bay of Plenty.
2. Codie Taylor - The speedy hooker has won 15 caps for AB's & made 47 SR apps for Crusaders. Member of 2015 RWC winning squad.
3. Ben Tameifuna - Played for the Chiefs before making a move to Racing 92 in TOP14. Now a Tongan international prop.
4. Steven Luatua - Made his AB's debut in 2013 - won 10 caps. Played over 60 times for Blues in SR. Agreed to join Bristol for 17/18 season.
5. Brodie Rettalick - 60 AB's caps. 2014 World Rugby Player of the Year. Over 80 SR caps for the Chiefs. 2015 RWC winner.
6. Brad Shields - Super Rugby winner in 2016 with Hurricanes. Has played over 80 games for the Wellington franchise.
7. Sam Cane - Super Rugby debut at 18. SR winner in 2011 with Chiefs. 2015 RWC winner. 40 caps for All Blacks.
8. Luke Whitelock (C) - Played over 70 SR games for Crusaders & Highlanders. Capped by the AB's. Recently defeated the B&I Lions with 'Landers.


9. TJ Perenara - 90+ SR caps for Hurricanes. 2016 SR winner. 29 caps, 7 tries for AB's. 2015 RWC winner.
10. Gareth Anscombe - 37 SR caps for Blues & Chiefs. 43 caps for Cardiff Blues. 9 Wales caps. Qualifies for Wales through his mother.
11. Charles Piutau - 17 caps for AB's. 41 SR caps for Blues. 2017 PRO12 PPOTY. Currently with Ulster after a season with Wasps.
12. Lima Sopoaga - 6 AB caps. 65 SR appearances. 2015 SR winner with Highlanders.
13. Francis Saili - 2 caps for AB's. 42 apps for Blues. 40 apps for Munster. Currently out of contract.
14. Mitchell Scott - 3 caps for Western Force in 2015. Played ITM for Tasman & Otago.
15. Beauden Barrett - 49 Test caps, 12 tries for AB. 2016 SR winner with Hurricanes. 2016 World POTY. 2015 RWC winner. GOAT.

10 out of the 15 starters have been capped by the All Blacks. A quite remarkable group of players. The Class of 2011 will certainly be remembered for decades to come.

16 Sefo Setefano Waikato
17 Michael Kainga Wellington - Played for Chiefs & Hurricanes. SR winner in 2016.
18 Dominic Bird Canterbury - Played over 40 SR games for Crusaders & Chiefs. Twice capped by AB's.
19 Carl Axtens Bay of Plenty - Plays for Toulouse in French TOP 14.
20 Brad Weber Otago - Played over 40 SR games for Chiefs. Capped by AB's in 2015 v Samoa.
21 Rhys Llewellyn Canterbury -
22 Waisake Naholo Taranaki - Capped 12 times by AB scoring 6 tries. Played 37 games for Highlanders scoring 30 tries.

Author:  Rugby2023 [ Mon Jun 19, 2017 9:08 pm ]
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Toro wrote:
BBB wrote:
I am the only one that thinks that Baby Blacks team wasn't that special and it was more a case of the usual challengers having fallen away badly from previous years?


Yeah they weren't that great, some great skills on show but while it was enjoyable to watch some of the other close games, the usually strong teams Weren't great, and I think I read somewhere that England were missing a few players.

I think some of them were on the senior tour to Argentina. Others will know better, but the 18 year old Curry was impressive against the Barbarians and Pumas.

Author:  Margin_Walker [ Mon Jun 19, 2017 9:09 pm ]
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Rugby2023 wrote:
Toro wrote:
BBB wrote:
I am the only one that thinks that Baby Blacks team wasn't that special and it was more a case of the usual challengers having fallen away badly from previous years?


Yeah they weren't that great, some great skills on show but while it was enjoyable to watch some of the other close games, the usually strong teams Weren't great, and I think I read somewhere that England were missing a few players.

I think some of them were on the senior tour to Argentina.


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Author:  Anonymous. [ Mon Jun 19, 2017 9:17 pm ]
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BBB wrote:
I am the only one that thinks that Baby Blacks team wasn't that special and it was more a case of the usual challengers having fallen away badly from previous years?

Who knows. They seemed pretty decent but apart from seemingly razer no one thought the squad England sent to the championships had a hope in hell of winning it

Author:  Ouch_I'M_Ill [ Mon Jun 19, 2017 10:30 pm ]
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No I think its more we took it seriously this time and were too good.

Also best thing was it wasnt close. You dont see greatness in 3 point wins at this level. You put up 50-60 points then you really know youe young talent is good. If we won by say 4 points it would be lame cause it could be just down to coaching rather than superior skills. For NZ close wins at tournaments like this are pointless.

Its only satisfying for the future if we destroy teams like this

Author:  HurricaneWasp [ Mon Jun 19, 2017 11:04 pm ]
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Diego wrote:
Botha Boy wrote:
This is the best Baby Blacks team I have seen. They marmelised teams, not through forward smashes, but through skill and speed of thought.

They might be marmelised themselves against the Lions pack today, but boy would they fok them up once they had grown up a little.

Outstanding U20 RWC winners and not a hint of roids or 'just gym monkeys' about them.

The new standard.

2011 shirley

Quote:
1. Solomona Sakalia - Went on to represent the Chiefs in 2013 SR & now playing Mitre 10 Cup for Bay of Plenty.
2. Codie Taylor - The speedy hooker has won 15 caps for AB's & made 47 SR apps for Crusaders. Member of 2015 RWC winning squad.
3. Ben Tameifuna - Played for the Chiefs before making a move to Racing 92 in TOP14. Now a Tongan international prop.
4. Steven Luatua - Made his AB's debut in 2013 - won 10 caps. Played over 60 times for Blues in SR. Agreed to join Bristol for 17/18 season.
5. Brodie Rettalick - 60 AB's caps. 2014 World Rugby Player of the Year. Over 80 SR caps for the Chiefs. 2015 RWC winner.
6. Brad Shields - Super Rugby winner in 2016 with Hurricanes. Has played over 80 games for the Wellington franchise.
7. Sam Cane - Super Rugby debut at 18. SR winner in 2011 with Chiefs. 2015 RWC winner. 40 caps for All Blacks.
8. Luke Whitelock (C) - Played over 70 SR games for Crusaders & Highlanders. Capped by the AB's. Recently defeated the B&I Lions with 'Landers.


9. TJ Perenara - 90+ SR caps for Hurricanes. 2016 SR winner. 29 caps, 7 tries for AB's. 2015 RWC winner.
10. Gareth Anscombe - 37 SR caps for Blues & Chiefs. 43 caps for Cardiff Blues. 9 Wales caps. Qualifies for Wales through his mother.
11. Charles Piutau - 17 caps for AB's. 41 SR caps for Blues. 2017 PRO12 PPOTY. Currently with Ulster after a season with Wasps.
12. Lima Sopoaga - 6 AB caps. 65 SR appearances. 2015 SR winner with Highlanders.
13. Francis Saili - 2 caps for AB's. 42 apps for Blues. 40 apps for Munster. Currently out of contract.
14. Mitchell Scott - 3 caps for Western Force in 2015. Played ITM for Tasman & Otago.
15. Beauden Barrett - 49 Test caps, 12 tries for AB. 2016 SR winner with Hurricanes. 2016 World POTY. 2015 RWC winner. GOAT.

10 out of the 15 starters have been capped by the All Blacks. A quite remarkable group of players. The Class of 2011 will certainly be remembered for decades to come.

16 Sefo Setefano Waikato
17 Michael Kainga Wellington - Played for Chiefs & Hurricanes. SR winner in 2016.
18 Dominic Bird Canterbury - Played over 40 SR games for Crusaders & Chiefs. Twice capped by AB's.
19 Carl Axtens Bay of Plenty - Plays for Toulouse in French TOP 14.
20 Brad Weber Otago - Played over 40 SR games for Chiefs. Capped by AB's in 2015 v Samoa.
21 Rhys Llewellyn Canterbury -
22 Waisake Naholo Taranaki - Capped 12 times by AB scoring 6 tries. Played 37 games for Highlanders scoring 30 tries.

These guys must be disappointed. Everyone else went on to greater things, but no-one has ever heard of these.

Author:  Razor [ Tue Jun 20, 2017 4:45 am ]
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Peter Fitz was saying in Sydney that the only future for the Wannabies is through the Juniors...without them they're seriously fuced.

Author:  englishchief [ Tue Jun 20, 2017 7:16 am ]
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No they just had even more fat polys than usual this year, which is deadly at U20 level. Will Jordan is a good player though, if I had to put money on one of them playing for the All Blacks.

Author:  englishchief [ Tue Jun 20, 2017 7:16 am ]
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Razor wrote:
Peter Fitz was saying in Sydney that the only future for the Wannabies is through the Juniors...without them they're seriously fuced.


Well they lost to Scotland at U20 level too so at least they're consistent.

Author:  mr bungle [ Tue Jun 20, 2017 7:43 am ]
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englishchief wrote:
No they just had even more fat polys than usual this year


You're a cunt.

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