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Conor vs Floyd

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 9:05 pm
by Old Man by the Sea
Maybe someone can help me out. I do not understand why some MMA guys think Conor has a chance at beating Floyd. They are boxing and using boxing rules, I know Conor will try everything in the book but does Conor's camp actually believe that Floyd cannot knock Conor out ?

It would not be a fight if it was MMA but besides payday why is Conor doing it ?
How many here will pay for the fight ? I probably will and have the guys over for a party.

Re: Conor vs Floyd

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 9:06 pm
by HighKingLeinster
I hope they both lose

Re: Conor vs Floyd

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 9:07 pm
by danthefan
He's doing it for the money but he also has a planetary sized ego and probably thinks he can win.

As for your first point, I haven't seen anyone at all saying he can win. He's going to get knocked the fudge out.

Floyd is a horrible wit kant though.

Re: Conor vs Floyd

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 9:08 pm
by Rugby2023
OP MMA fans are fans of MMA, they don't really understand boxing.

This is just another money-grab for Mayweather, the deck is stacked as usual, just how he likes it.

Re: Conor vs Floyd

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 9:20 pm
by Stevus55
Old Man by the Sea wrote: It would not be a fight if it was MMA but besides payday why is Conor doing it ?
I suspect that's pretty much it.

I remember hearing a few years ago that McGregors coach recommends young fighters get in, make a lot of noise, and then get out within a few years with a big bank balance and with body and mind relatively unscathed. McGregor is making a pretty good fist of that plan. He can retire after this fight a massively wealthy man, and can probably move on to Hollywood or something equally easy to keep his fortune topped up.

Re: Conor vs Floyd

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 9:22 pm
by DragsterDriver
If mayweather trains he'll use mcgregor as bag practice-it'll be humiliation.

Re: Conor vs Floyd

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 9:24 pm
by Flametop
Mayweather isn't known for his knockout power.
I think his ego will want to drag it out to completely outclass McGregor and prove a point for a boxer vs a MMA fighter all the while with him taking far less risk by staying in the comfort zone of his own sport/rules. He's going to try and humiliate McGregor.

Don't think McGregor will gas quite as easily/early as his previous MMA fights that went to a decision. It's the clinches and wrestling that really zaps the energy and he will have had a long lead in time with nothing but training for a boxing match.

Re: Conor vs Floyd

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 9:31 pm
by Rugby2023
Flametop wrote:Mayweather isn't known for his knockout power.
I think his ego will want to drag it out to completely outclass McGregor and prove a point for a boxer vs a MMA fighter all the while with him taking far less risk by staying in the comfort zone of his own sport/rules. He's going to try and humiliate McGregor.

Don't think McGregor will gas quite as easily/early as his previous MMA fights that went to a decision. It's the clinches and wrestling that really zaps the energy and he will have had a long lead in time with nothing but training for a boxing match.
McGregor looked pretty useless in sparring with Van Heerden. I wouldn't be at all surprised if he is stopped. Floyd won't force it though, you're right. Not because he wants to humiliate but because he is naturally very cautious and defensive in the ring.

Re: Conor vs Floyd

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 9:33 pm
by danthefan
Rugby2023 wrote:
Flametop wrote:Mayweather isn't known for his knockout power.
I think his ego will want to drag it out to completely outclass McGregor and prove a point for a boxer vs a MMA fighter all the while with him taking far less risk by staying in the comfort zone of his own sport/rules. He's going to try and humiliate McGregor.

Don't think McGregor will gas quite as easily/early as his previous MMA fights that went to a decision. It's the clinches and wrestling that really zaps the energy and he will have had a long lead in time with nothing but training for a boxing match.
McGregor looked pretty useless in sparring with Van Heerden. I wouldn't be at all surprised if he is stopped. Floyd won't force it though, you're right. Not because he wants to humiliate but because he is naturally very cautious and defensive in the ring.
I think that footage is something like 18 months old, but yeah he looked pants.

Re: Conor vs Floyd

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 9:33 pm
by bessantj
I'm far more looking forward to the shit talking than I am the actual fight.

Re: Conor vs Floyd

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 9:34 pm
by JoeMangled
I think you'll find it's Merryweather.

Re: Conor vs Floyd

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 9:36 pm
by RuggaBugga
What's with this McGregor will move to Hollywood trope?

He's barely understandable at the best of times.

Re: Conor vs Floyd

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 9:41 pm
by 18ChinsOfChinatown
RuggaBugga wrote:What's with this McGregor will move to Hollywood trope?

He's barely understandable at the best of times.
Arnie and Sly seemed to do well enough.

Re: Conor vs Floyd

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 9:59 pm
by Flametop
18ChinsOfChinatown wrote:
RuggaBugga wrote:What's with this McGregor will move to Hollywood trope?

He's barely understandable at the best of times.
Arnie and Sly seemed to do well enough.
"C'mere mista Baand, bin spectin' ye, ye little bollix. Smirnoff ice?"

Re: Conor vs Floyd

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 10:24 pm
by Cabbage
Nice little arb (sort of) on betfair.

Back McGregor to win by KO, TKO, or DQ at 7.4 (1000 stake pays 6400)
Lay McGregor to win outright at 6.4 (1000 backers stake = 5400 liability)

Adjust both yours and the backers stake slightly for commission so that it's a free bet on McGregor by KO/TKO/DQ

A loss can only occur if McGregor wins by decision / draw (impossible) or Floyd is stopped by a cut, and only then if the cut is a result of an accidental clash, a cut inflicted by a McGregor punch would be a TKO.

Any other outcome results in you breaking even or collecting 1k.

Re: Conor vs Floyd

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 10:52 pm
by Old Man by the Sea
danthefan wrote:He's doing it for the money but he also has a planetary sized ego and probably thinks he can win.

As for your first point, I haven't seen anyone at all saying he can win. He's going to get knocked the fudge out.

Floyd is a horrible plum though.
I'm not sure Floyd can knock Conor out. Joe Rogen is saying Conor can win.

Re: Conor vs Floyd

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 10:54 pm
by Flametop
Old Man by the Sea wrote:
danthefan wrote:He's doing it for the money but he also has a planetary sized ego and probably thinks he can win.

As for your first point, I haven't seen anyone at all saying he can win. He's going to get knocked the fudge out.

Floyd is a horrible plum though.
I'm not sure Floyd can knock Conor out. Joe Rogen is saying Conor can win.
Isn't it at a heavier weight than Floyd usually fights at?

Re: Conor vs Floyd

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 11:17 pm
by Tehui
danthefan wrote:He's doing it for the money
When you're expected to receive a (US) $75M payday for the fight - can you blame him?

Re: Conor vs Floyd

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 11:22 pm
by Cartman
It's funny how rousey gets humilated by an MMA fighter that can box and then another MMA fighter thinks that means he can take on a real boxer

Re: Conor vs Floyd

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 11:58 pm
by danthefan
Tehui wrote:
danthefan wrote:He's doing it for the money
When you're expected to receive a (US) $75M payday for the fight - can you blame him?
God no.

Re: Conor vs Floyd

Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 6:43 am
by Rugby2023
Flametop wrote:
Old Man by the Sea wrote:
danthefan wrote:He's doing it for the money but he also has a planetary sized ego and probably thinks he can win.

As for your first point, I haven't seen anyone at all saying he can win. He's going to get knocked the fudge out.

Floyd is a horrible plum though.
I'm not sure Floyd can knock Conor out. Joe Rogen is saying Conor can win.
Isn't it at a heavier weight than Floyd usually fights at?
154lbs, he usually fights at 147lbs but he beat Cotto at 154 and Canelo at 152. He actually hurt Cotto at one point in their bout, so he can do some damage at the weight.