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 Post subject: Super Rugby 2018
PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 4:50 pm 
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Super 15 Tournament Details
- 120 match regular season plus seven match finals series
- 15 teams
- Three conferences (Australia, New Zealand, South Africa)
- 18 rounds [16 matches per team, two bye weeks]
- Each team will play eight matches within its conference (four home and four away)
- Each team will play eight cross-conference matches – against four of the five teams from each of the other two conferences (four at home and four away)
- Each team will play 12 of the other teams within the season (85% of opposition teams which is up from 70% in 2016).
- Eight team Finals Series: Three Conference winners and; five wild card places – the next best performing teams based on competition points after the
Conference winners regardless of Conference. Conference winners and fourth-placed team on competition points will host quarter-finals.

New Zealand Conference
Blues, Chiefs, Crusaders, Highlanders, Hurricanes

Australian Conference
Four Australian teams (TBC), Sunwolves

South Africa Conference
Bulls, Lions, Sharks, Stormers, Jaguares

http://www.superxv.com/sanzaar-confirm-super-15-tournament-2018/


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 Post subject: Re: Super Rugby 2018
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Well , Me thunks it will be 16 teams , with Oz keeping their teams


A 16 week comp with a bye for everyone, June window for the tests in 18 and 19 and 4 weeks of mindsless play offs in July


I think Bill Pulver has played the saffas off a break ......and walked out clean as a whistle :thumbup:


Also interesting to not BP has send out a Press Release saying "We have a annoucement to make " and has never said "We will announce which team is going"


And the Rebels and Force are now swimming in $$$


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 Post subject: Re: Super Rugby 2018
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Super 15 Tournament Details
- 120 match regular season plus seven match finals series
- 15 teams
- Three conferences (Australia, New Zealand, South Africa)
- 18 rounds [16 matches per team, two bye weeks]
- Each team will play eight matches within its conference (four home and four away)
- Each team will play eight cross-conference matches – against four of the five teams from each of the other two conferences (four at home and four away)
- Each team will play 12 of the other teams within the season (85% of opposition teams which is up from 70% in 2016).
- Eight team Finals Series: Three Conference winners and; five wild card places – the next best performing teams based on competition points after the
Conference winners regardless of Conference. Conference winners and fourth-placed team on competition points will host quarter-finals.

New Zealand Conference
Blues, Chiefs, Crusaders, Highlanders, Hurricanes

Australian Conference
Four Australian teams (TBC), Sunwolves

South Africa Conference
Bulls, Lions, Sharks, Stormers, Jaguares

http://www.superxv.com/sanzaar-confirm-super-15-tournament-2018/


Article was posted in April and yet still very little clarity. Don't surprised if we still have five teams next season.


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 Post subject: Re: Super Rugby 2018
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That 'Super XV' website is not actually an official site for Super Rugby...

The fake logo and the fact that the competition has never been called that should be a dead giveaway though.


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 Post subject: Re: Super Rugby 2018
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If Australia does keep all five teams, will the whole miserable, drawn-out process be remembered as an absolute masterstroke by the much maligned Pulver? Or will the consensus be that his poor planning, worse engagement and inability to handle complex problems have resulted in him accidentally falling arse-backwards into a favourable outcome?

EDIT: (and gloriously screwing over the South Africans in the process)


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 Post subject: Re: Super Rugby 2018
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If Australia does keep all five teams, will the whole miserable, drawn-out process be remembered as an absolute masterstroke by the much maligned Pulver? Or will the consensus be that his poor planning, worse engagement and inability to handle complex problems have resulted in him accidentally falling arse-backwards into a favourable outcome?

EDIT: (and gloriously screwing over the South Africans in the process)


Ahhh, no.

Bill will be out on his arse, and double-quick.

I only hope Cameron Kline also gets to feel the toe of a shoe up his date.


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 Post subject: Re: Super Rugby 2018
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I won't be watching Soup Rugby next year, I'm done, ZN teams are the one ones worth watching and even they have been weak this year, why does NZRU not get rid of the Blues yet? :/


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 Post subject: Re: Super Rugby 2018
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I won't be watching Soup Rugby next year, I'm done, ZN teams are the one ones worth watching and even they have been weak this year, why does NZRU not get rid of the Blues yet? :/

Because Steve Tew thinks if keeping the Blues will get rid of your eye-wateringly dumb comments then it would be worth it.


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 Post subject: Re: Super Rugby 2018
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Slim 293 wrote:
That 'Super XV' website is not actually an official site for Super Rugby...

The fake logo and the fact that the competition has never been called that should be a dead giveaway though.


Like many other sites it is a rugby site posting news and views.

The article is based on a SANZAAR press release
For confirmation on the official SARU web site
http://www.sarugby.co.za/article.aspx?category=sarugby/superrugby&pcurr=2&id=3950644

Happy now?


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 Post subject: Re: Super Rugby 2018
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If Australia does keep all five teams, will the whole miserable, drawn-out process be remembered as an absolute masterstroke by the much maligned Pulver? Or will the consensus be that his poor planning, worse engagement and inability to handle complex problems have resulted in him accidentally falling arse-backwards into a favourable outcome?

EDIT: (and gloriously screwing over the South Africans in the process)


How in the f**k would keeping 5 x teams be remembered as a masterstroke, the whole reason the ARU are in this mess is because they expanded to five teams!?

your comments make no sense??


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 Post subject: Re: Super Rugby 2018
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If Australia does keep all five teams, will the whole miserable, drawn-out process be remembered as an absolute masterstroke by the much maligned Pulver? Or will the consensus be that his poor planning, worse engagement and inability to handle complex problems have resulted in him accidentally falling arse-backwards into a favourable outcome?

EDIT: (and gloriously screwing over the South Africans in the process)


How in the f**k would keeping 5 x teams be remembered as a masterstroke, the whole reason the ARU are in this mess is because they expanded to five teams!?

your comments make no sense??


Five teams weren't that big of an issue until last season. All of a sudden they are. But I suspect a lot of the current issues are related more to leadership than talent and depth. In particularly just woefully shite coaching. Sort that out and things will improve.


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 Post subject: Re: Super Rugby 2018
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If Australia does keep all five teams, will the whole miserable, drawn-out process be remembered as an absolute masterstroke by the much maligned Pulver? Or will the consensus be that his poor planning, worse engagement and inability to handle complex problems have resulted in him accidentally falling arse-backwards into a favourable outcome?

EDIT: (and gloriously screwing over the South Africans in the process)


How in the f**k would keeping 5 x teams be remembered as a masterstroke, the whole reason the ARU are in this mess is because they expanded to five teams!?

your comments make no sense??


Bollocks. The ARU is in a mess because they haven't invested in coaching and they've been burgling the grass roots for decades to pay for their boozy lunches. We've won two out of the six titles since adding the fifth team, it's an absolute nonsense argument that we don't have enough talent, we just don't have enough quality coaches and cutting a team is going to do four fifths of fudge all to change that.

Anything that gets the South Africans to put another toe out the door is a movement towards forcing the NZRU to agree to a pacific club comp, which is going to be the best way forward.

If we can keep all five teams, that's a great outcome for us, even if we have another few lean years. Coupled with this new national coaching oversight board that's emerging, these are very positive signs for our beleaguered sport.


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 Post subject: Re: Super Rugby 2018
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Five teams weren't that big of an issue until last season. All of a sudden they are. But I suspect a lot of the current issues are related more to leadership than talent and depth. In particularly just woefully shite coaching. Sort that out and things will improve.


Woefully shit coaching is one thing, but even at our best with the tahs and reds winning titles in the last 6 years, we did not have the player depth for the other teams and subsequently the likes of the Rebels and Force got smashed YOY..

Hell I even remember in the reds title winning year, they had a few injuries in the last few rounds and had to call in Caleb Ralph as a backup player...Caleb f**king Ralph!?


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 Post subject: Re: Super Rugby 2018
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fraz wrote:
bravo wrote:
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If Australia does keep all five teams, will the whole miserable, drawn-out process be remembered as an absolute masterstroke by the much maligned Pulver? Or will the consensus be that his poor planning, worse engagement and inability to handle complex problems have resulted in him accidentally falling arse-backwards into a favourable outcome?

EDIT: (and gloriously screwing over the South Africans in the process)


How in the f**k would keeping 5 x teams be remembered as a masterstroke, the whole reason the ARU are in this mess is because they expanded to five teams!?

your comments make no sense??


Bollocks. The ARU is in a mess because they haven't invested in coaching and they've been burgling the grass roots for decades to pay for their boozy lunches. We've won two out of the six titles since adding the fifth team, it's an absolute nonsense argument that we don't have enough talent, we just don't have enough quality coaches and cutting a team is going to do four fifths of fudge all to change that.

Anything that gets the South Africans to put another toe out the door is a movement towards forcing the NZRU to agree to a pacific club comp, which is going to be the best way forward.

If we can keep all five teams, that's a great outcome for us, even if we have another few lean years. Coupled with this new national coaching oversight board that's emerging, these are very positive signs for our beleaguered sport.


Don't even bother explain ing to kiwis they believe what they want despite all logic


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 Post subject: Re: Super Rugby 2018
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How in the f**k would keeping 5 x teams be remembered as a masterstroke,

Because different people operate from different axioms.

The assumption that Super Rugby will survive beyond 2020 is not one that everyone shares.

bravo wrote:
the whole reason the ARU are in this mess is because they expanded to five teams!?

It's not the whole reason, and going to 4 teams is not the answer either.

This comp won't exist after three more seasons.


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 Post subject: Re: Super Rugby 2018
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Bulls 2018 jersey - Celebrating 80 years of Blue Bulls rugby

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 Post subject: Re: Super Rugby 2018
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Special Edition jerseys:

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 Post subject: Re: Super Rugby 2018
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Celebrating without the Barberton Daisy. An emblem of 80 years dropped sito-sito. No regard for history, yet brag about "80 years"....

Bulls are gone, down the drain. Shittiest admin they've had in decades.


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 Post subject: Re: Super Rugby 2018
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They are not wearing dark blue shorts either


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 Post subject: Re: Super Rugby 2018
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Wilson's Toffee wrote:
Jensrsa wrote:
Bulls 2018 jersey - Celebrating 80 years of Blue Bulls rugby

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Celebrating without the Barberton Daisy. An emblem of 80 years dropped sito-sito. No regard for history, yet brag about "80 years"....

Bulls are gone, down the drain. Shittiest admin they've had in decades.

The Bulls have not had the Barberton Daisy on they're Super Rugby kit for ages.


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 Post subject: Re: Super Rugby 2018
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Average Joe wrote:
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Jensrsa wrote:
Bulls 2018 jersey - Celebrating 80 years of Blue Bulls rugby

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Celebrating without the Barberton Daisy. An emblem of 80 years dropped sito-sito. No regard for history, yet brag about "80 years"....

Bulls are gone, down the drain. Shittiest admin they've had in decades.

The Bulls have not had the Barberton Daisy on they're Super Rugby kit for ages.


Apparently this kit and logo will be used by all their teams this year - One Legacy, One Family, One Dream, One Badge, One Kit


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 Post subject: Re: Super Rugby 2018
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With a Super Rugby Logo on the sleeve? Or will they print new ones without the SR Logo?


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 Post subject: Re: Super Rugby 2018
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With a Super Rugby Logo on the sleeve? Or will they print new ones without the SR Logo?


Obviously the other competitions' logos will replace the SR logo


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:thumbup: They could sew on a daisy in the white space provided.


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 Post subject: Re: Super Rugby 2018
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3 of Australia's 4 franchises have announced their 2018 squads, with the Waratahs, who have had the least disruption, still dragging the chain. The Rebels, who have had the most disruption due to personnel turnover, were first out of the blocks, and that standard of off-field readiness augurs well for next year.

Meanwhile, we need to send Dumbledore or some other Tahs stalwart down to NSWRU headquarters with a horsewhip, to thrash the administration into action. (I heard they are talking to Curtis Rona, so I'm hoping they'll provide a home for he, Michael Ruru and Alex Newsome, as those 3 still haven't found an Australian franchise yet.)


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 Post subject: Re: Super Rugby 2018
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Newsome is with the Waratahs, Ruru the Rebels. McCalman, Rona, Pek Cowan, Ryan Louwrens, Kane Koteka, Scoble, Robbie Coleman, Angus Cottrell are still unattached as far as I know. Haven't checked whether Tessmann is in the Reds squad.

In regards to the Rebels have around 45 players depending on what source you are reading.


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Hurricanes, Blues away :thumbup:
Highlanders, Chiefs home :thumbup:
Crusaders home and away :thumbdown: Saves me a bob.


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 Post subject: Re: Super Rugby 2018
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Brumby_in_Vic wrote:
Newsome is with the Waratahs, Ruru the Rebels. McCalman, Rona, Pek Cowan, Ryan Louwrens, Kane Koteka, Scoble, Robbie Coleman, Angus Cottrell are still unattached as far as I know. Haven't checked whether Tessmann is in the Reds squad.

In regards to the Rebels have around 45 players depending on what source you are reading.


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Brumby_in_Vic wrote:
Newsome is with the Waratahs, Ruru the Rebels. McCalman, Rona, Pek Cowan, Ryan Louwrens, Kane Koteka, Scoble, Robbie Coleman, Angus Cottrell are still unattached as far as I know. Haven't checked whether Tessmann is in the Reds squad.

In regards to the Rebels have around 45 players depending on what source you are reading.


My goddam reply went off when I was still preparing it - these things are like guns!

Thanks, BIV, you are the man 'In the know about the know'.


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 Post subject: Re: Super Rugby 2018
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Sunwolves Super Rugby squad:

Keita Inagaki, Asaeli Aivalu, Jiwon Koo, Ruan Smith, Craig Millar, Jaba Bradvadze, Shota Horie, Grant Hattingh, Sam Wykes, Kazuki Imeno, Uwe Helu, Edward Quirk, Shunsuke Nunomaki, Wimpie van der Walt, Willie Britz, Michael Leitch, Fumiaki Tanaka, Yu Tamura, Hayden Parker, Harumichi Tatekawa, Timoth Lafaele, Gerhard van den Heever, Kenki Fukuoka, Akihit Yamada, Lamano Lava Lemeki, Robbie Robinson

I see Ghost is back. I haven't heard of him in a long time

Saffers in the squad: lock Grant Hattingh, prop Ruan Smith, wing Gerhard van den Heever, loose forward Willie Britz and loose forward Wimpie van der Walt


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 Post subject: Re: Super Rugby 2018
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Gerhard van den Heever - there's a blast from the past. What happened to him? His first season for the Stormers was pretty good if I remember correctly. Seemed destined for great things.

Edit: I think he first started with the Bulls.


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 Post subject: Re: Super Rugby 2018
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The Lions are going to dominate the Saffer conferences this year...team to beat out of Africa.
Stormers will have a very strong forwards pack ...... so expect big scrums and rolling mauls...
Sharks are a workmanlike outfit ......its going to be tough this year.
Bulls are looking for improvement with a Kiwi coach.....Just need to find some forwards


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Gerhard van den Heever - there's a blast from the past. What happened to him? His first season for the Stormers was pretty good if I remember correctly. Seemed destined for great things.

Edit: I think he first started with the Bulls.


Bulls, Stormers and Munster before going to Japan last year


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 Post subject: Re: Super Rugby 2018
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Brumby_in_Vic wrote:
Newsome is with the Waratahs, Ruru the Rebels. McCalman, Rona, Pek Cowan, Ryan Louwrens, Kane Koteka, Scoble, Robbie Coleman, Angus Cottrell are still unattached as far as I know. Haven't checked whether Tessmann is in the Reds squad.

In regards to the Rebels have around 45 players depending on what source you are reading.


My goddam reply went off when I was still preparing it - these things are like guns!

Thanks, BIV, you are the man 'In the know about the know'.


Courtesy of the TWF forum:

Props (6):
Shambeckler Vui 2019 - Waratahs
Ben Daley 2019 - Rebels
Pek Cowan 2018
Jermaine Ainsley 2018 Rebels
Tetera Faulkner 2017 - Rebels
Francios van Wyk 2017 - Bulls

Hookers (4):
Anaru Rangi 2019 - Rebels
Heath Tessman 2018
Harry Scoble 2017
Tatafu Polota -Nau 2017 - Leicester

Locks (4):
Richie Arnold 2019 - Brumbies
Adam Coleman 2019 - Rebels
Ben Matijow 2017
Matt Phillip (Sydney Uni) - Rebels

Backrowers (8):
Ben McCalman 2018
Angus Cottrell 2018
Richard Hardwick 2018 - Rebels
Isa Naisarani 2018 - Brumbies
Matt Hodgson 2017 - Retired
Brynard Stander 2017
Ross Haylett-Petty 2017 - Rebels
Kane Koteka 2017

Scrumhalves (3):
Michael Ruru 2019 - Rebels
Ian Prior 2017 -
Ryan Louwrens 2017 - South Africa

Flyhalves (3):
Jono Lance 2018 - Rebels via Worchester
Peter Grant 2017 (M)
Luke Burton 2017

Centres (3):
Bill Meakes 2018 - Rebels
Marcel Brache 2017
Ammon Matuauto 2016 EPS

Outside Backs (6):
Dane Haylett-Petty 2019 - Rebels
Chance Peni 2019 Brumbies
Robbie Coleman 2018
Curtis Rona 2018
Nick Jooste
Kevin Naiqama.
Semisi Masirewa 2017
Luke Morahan 2017


Wider Training Group
Con Foley (Sydney Rays)
Sam Figg (NSW Country Eagles) - Japan
Alex Newsome (NSW Country Eagles) - Waratahs
Will Magie (USA)


Injury Cover
Lewis Carmichael - Lock
Onehunga Havili - Back Row
Mitchell Short - Scrum Half
James Verity-Amm - Outside Back - Brumbies


Coaches
Head Coach - Dave Wessells - 2019 - Rebels
Assistant Coach - Kevin Foote - 2018 - Rebels
Forwards Coach - Joe Bakarat - 2018 - Rebels
Backs & Attack Coach - Shaun Berne 2018 - Rebels
Attack Consultant - Alan Gaffney


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Lions 2018 jersey launch: Tonight (6 December)

Sharks 2018 jersey launch: 7 December

Stormers 2018 jersey launch: 8 December


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Celebrating without the Barberton Daisy. An emblem of 80 years dropped sito-sito. No regard for history, yet brag about "80 years"....

Bulls are gone, down the drain. Shittiest admin they've had in decades.

The Bulls have not had the Barberton Daisy on they're Super Rugby kit for ages.


I'm with WT on this.

Either you celebrate 80 years of history as the Union and include the daisy in the design as a tribute, or you accept that the Bulls franchise is only is technically only 20 years old, leave the Daisy off and STFU about the 80 years.


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 Post subject: Re: Super Rugby 2018
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Hard to believe no Australian franchise has picked up Rona yet. He looked sharp on debut for the Wallabies, even if still making some adjustments to union. Surely the Reds will have a go, now they've dropped (almost unexpectedly) 4 players off their list...


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 Post subject: Re: Super Rugby 2018
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Rona, Louwrens, McCalman and Cowen are the ones I thought would have gigs by now.
Cowen has been very loyal and may be pissed off with the ARU so may leave the country. Louwrens may also head back to SA, although he was the form half back of the first half of the last season and would be a huge loss to Aus rugby if he goes. McCalman is baffling. He is experienced, a Wallaby and can cover lock as well as 6 and 8 at super level. Rona ditto except covers 11, 13 and 14.

Cottrell and Matijow are both good players but have been long term injured so I can see them not being wanted. Cottrell in particular was looking good two years ago before his injury.


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Louwrens won’t be far off Bok contention if he comes back.


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