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 Post subject: Re: Women's Rugby thread
PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2018 1:19 pm 
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They do a genuinely awesome job. It's no surprise that when I was looking for coaching courses the ones in Hertfordshire all seem the first to get fully booked. It seems to be the area doing the best in Rugby development in London and the home counties for men and women. I'd love to go there was absorb and learn about the good practice they have there and enhance my own skills.

Watching the U15 and U18 sides on Sunday (prior to the women's final) I was interested at how Leek U15, who where easily beaten, had a few players with high skill levels. Their number 7 was on another level entering the breakdown, grabbing numerous turnovers, one of the best girl's I've ever seen in that shirt.

Likewise Newark U18 Girls (who had the largest support out of the age teams) were baldy beaten, but were exceptional technically (their number 18 is playing 10 for England, Jess something) in defense, in the breakdown and their passing. The mother of their number 6 told me they were likely to lose because just about the whole side had just been promoted form the U15 so the opponents Pulborough had two years of size on them. It showed, there was an obvious size difference and come the second half it paid, hence the score. But it was a delight seeing a side that had obviously been exceptionally coached.

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South London.

Aaah! If you check out the Welwyn RFC website there are a number of coaching contacts published in the girls ruby section. The guy called Jonathan is the one that seems to make it all work. He has an e-mail link on there



Ah cheers mate :thumbup:

I'm doing my level 2 (I've been coaching for almost a decade, about time I did more qualifications) this month, so I might contact him after that. It's not technically far so perhaps I'll offer to help out or observe as a helper if possible. Cheers for the pointer!


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An interesting table. The women's top elite league, for the past 4 years. Lichfield who obviously were not there this season would still be in the top 4 and playing a semi-final with a whole season's fewer games:

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PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2018 2:21 pm 
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The RFU seem determined to continue their one step forward, one step back approach to women's Rugby. At times you would be forgiven that they are unaware they pay the 7's women less per year then the men get in one match and the XV don't get paid at all.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/rugby-union ... ens-squad/

The women are barely paid as it is. Yet somehow the RFU just expect them to re-locate

I genuinely think the RFU should corridor off some £10 million out of their £200 million turnover e.g. just 2.5% of their turnover to pay the women £30k a year on each of the 10 sides for a squad of 30 (pending availability for England duty etc).


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Something I've often wondered, why is South Africa poor at international level in women's rugby? Is it purely a cultural thing, rugby being a man's domain?


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Tyrells nominates these 5 for Try of the Season'

https://twitter.com/Premier15s/status/9 ... 88849479=1

As much as I adore Emma Uren's and Danielle Waterman's sublime solo efforts, that's Quins team try was just amazing! It's even slight better in the clip where you see the whole scrum at the start (They shove Worcester off their own ball).

https://twitter.com/WomRugbyComp/status ... 8712709121

A few other contenders IMO:

There was a great Firwood Waterloo try by their 13 (usually a winger). 3rd try in:

https://twitter.com/Premier15s/status/9 ... 6469203969


BTW, that Emma Uren Try looks even better form the other side:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7i-YyOc_TWI

Emma Uren's other superb Try this season:

https://twitter.com/Premier15s/status/9 ... 5555683329

Ellie Killdunne had a super one againsy Quins:

https://t.co/lcAjCa2f0M

Sydney Gregson for Bristol in the Snow:

https://twitter.com/WomRugbyComp/status ... 0651222016

Another good Bristol try:

https://twitter.com/WomRugbyComp/status ... 8076762112

Best prop try by Laura Kapo:

https://twitter.com/Premier15s/status/9 ... 6919884801

Somewhere there was a great Loughborough Try that came via their 10's running game. Can't be arsed to find it now :lol:


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Something I've often wondered, why is South Africa poor at international level in women's rugby? Is it purely a cultural thing, rugby being a man's domain?


It's broadly a similar story in many of their sports I think.


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Oh and a wonderful article on how Lichfield are rising from the ashes of the RFU forced relegation and losing 40 odd players as a result. They even called it 'Project Phoenix.'

Do click the link to read the story:

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http://lastwordonrugby.com/2018/04/27/l ... the-ashes/

Lichfield Ladies RFC: the Phoenix which rose from the ashes

There aren’t many rugby clubs – male or female – who have experienced a 42-player exodus before the start of a season. There are even fewer who could recruit another 67 as a result.
Both happened to Lichfield Ladies RFC, in less than a year.

The club – one of the early trailblazers of the women’s game in England – were denied a place in this year’s inaugural Women’s Super Rugby competition, the Tyrrells Premier 15s. Decided in 2017, the non-admission was a dreadful blow to a proud women’s rugby club.

This Sunday the league will culminate in a showdown between Harlequins Ladies and Saracens, in a year which has massively boosted the profile of club-level women’s rugby.

While this positive transition should not go unrecognised, neither should the devastating sub-plot which Lichfield Ladies endured, hidden behind an array of Tyrrells crisp packets used to market a new flavour of women’s rugby.

While celebrating the advances to high-level women’s competition, it was a decision which hit the Midlands side hard: links with neighbouring universities broke down, and the future of the 25-year old club was hanging in the balance. The bitter pill was even harder to swallow because Loughborough Lightning, a newly formed university side on Lichfield’s doorstep, was admitted to the new league ahead of the Ladies.

Coincidentally, when the RFU’s decision went public, Lichfield were lying second in the Premiership – the then top-flight of English rugby – a league they had been part of for 15 seasons.

Across those 15 seasons, the club had produced many leading players. Five Lichfield players were on England duty in the 2017 Six Nations, including Rugby World Cup winner and the Team GB sevens rugby captain at the 2016 Rio Olympics, Emily Scarratt.

Lichfield’s 2017/18 recruitment drive
But a year on, the club has regenerated. Wiping all vestiges of former despair in a self-conceived project called ‘Operation Phoenix’.

A huge success, the club recruited a staggering 67 players to ensure their team colours could run out every week and were conscious of matching the more relaxed commitment needed for first and second tier championship rugby.

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Remarkably, most of this was achieved by word of mouth. However the club did utilise their links with the armed forces; notably the RAF, to successfully coordinate talent transfers.

The club also brought in two clinical psychologists. Phil Quirk and Phil Kelly from Pro-Noctis, a human performance specialist company, who led analysis sessions on what ‘pity’ is.

“WHEN YOU’VE BEEN CRIPPLED BY THE RFU, THE ONLY THING YOU CAN DO IS RISE FROM THE ASHES.”

Becky Williams, Lichfield’s women’s and girl’s director of rugby, says she was adamant on maintaining Lichfield’s longstanding decorum of green and red teams – the club’s so-called ‘A’ and ‘B’ sides.

“It was a big loss to lose all those links, but we couldn’t afford to change our stance – two teams was always our priority,” Williams told Last Word on Rugby. “We never allowed the reality to hit, we never changed our expectations or standards as to where we were going to be this season.

“Some might say it’s a little bit arrogant, but the proof’s in the pudding and it’s paid off.”

Lichfield Red and Green army no longer ‘at risk’
The club might not have experienced the savoury taste of Tyrrells rugby in its historic inaugural season but, Lichfield’s performances on the pitch after a turbulent few months have made their achievements ‘all the more sweeter’.

The club’s Red team ended the season second in Championship North – one tier below the Tyrrells – having won all but one of their league fixtures this season. Meanwhile their second Green team equivalent earned a respectable fourth-place finish in Championship Midlands 2, the country’s third-tier of women’s rugby.

Perhaps most significantly, this ‘second string’ of Lichfield players fulfilled all 12 of their fixtures throughout the 2017-18 season. Under RFU regulation 16.8.3, teams in championship two [where Lichfield’s ‘B’ team play] who do not fulfil two or more of their fixtures, face automatic relegation at the end of the season.

It is a hallmark of the club’s recovering determination – and bears significance, when considering half of the Tyrrells Premier 2XV league sides have failed to complete all of their fixtures in the competition’s first full season. That was in stark comparison to the determined stance of the Lichfield Ladies club, who pride themselves on ‘always turning up’.

Remarkably, Lichfield Ladies, who were listed by the RFU as a club ‘at risk’ at the start of the season, have officially been declared a ‘success’.

Building towards the future
Those connected with Lichfield will be watching the Tyrrells Premier 15s final this weekend. Not with a jealous eye mind you, but hugely satisfied for surviving what some still regard as one of the greatest unsung injustices in British sport.

Feelings of bitterness may still ebb and flow however, the club’s resurrection is rooted within its core identity. Williams feared this would be lost had it not been for her backroom staff in guiding the flurry of players transitioning in and out. “I have to credit all of the players and coaches for their effort in transforming the girls,” says Williams.

“Some had never played rugby before and our coaches have done a fantastic job in converting them into the amazing players we’ve had this season.”

The club have certainly honoured its 25-year history by what it has achieved over the last year. They face two more seasons of championship rugby though, due to the Tyrrells Premier 15s league remaining locked for another two seasons.

But will the phoenix that is Lichfield Ladies regenerate once more, should the opportunity to gain Tyrrells status arrive again? “Absolutely,” insists Williams.

“We fully applaud our former players who had aspirations to play at a higher level, but we welcomed in the next generation of players who had equal aspirations of being the best they could be.”

The spirit of the club has risen beyond the trials and tribulations of Rugby administration. With so many new women exposed to the game, the Lichfield Ladies have provided their own players with a pathway to finding their inner warrior.

“We’ll always strive to be a bigger and better club. Year one is done, and we survived.”




A heart warming moment form near the start of the season, the two teams that absorbed the most Lichfield players had a "Lichfeld team photo" together after the game:

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 Post subject: Re: Women's Rugby thread
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Great story! I didn't think that it could have gone from bad to worse if they failed to fulfil fixtures, knocking them even further down.

It's an incredible F-YOU to the RFU for them to bounce back so strongly. I'd love for them to give a smug response when they're eventually welcomed into the Premiership, because I can just see some suit stealing a bit of the limelight.


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Nieghorn wrote:
Great story! I didn't think that it could have gone from bad to worse if they failed to fulfil fixtures, knocking them even further down.

It's an incredible F-YOU to the RFU for them to bounce back so strongly. I'd love for them to give a smug response when they're eventually welcomed into the Premiership, because I can just see some suit stealing a bit of the limelight.



Indeed. There have also been plenty of sneers at Loughborough, you know the side who didn't even have a senior team when applying and casually had connections a few big wigs in the RFU who oversaw the process, who were the side in both the Top division and both the North and South division below who didn't fulfil the most 2nd team fixtures, a supposed requirement of the RFU funding for the top league placement.



Can I say I've long despised (to strong a word) and been frustrated at Loughborough Universities unnatural and overly powerful influence in British sport. They are a nice Uni and have lost of money and great facilites, but for some reason they absorb huge amounts of British developing talent from schools and yet there seems to be no success stories from them (certainly relative to how much ENglish talent they absorb) and talent seems to flourish when they move away from them.

There was an issue where somehow they got British Athletics (track&field) to force every athlete to go there in some centralisation program (copying UK Cycling) at Loughborough and a generation of really good throwers all started going backwards and the sprint teams produced their poorest era of performances in my lifetime. It was lucky the likes of Jessica Ennis stayed away. A similar story with their Netball team.


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That's very interesting, and seems to add more fuel to the fire as to why I don't like centralization here in Canada.

It suggests there's a very prescriptive way of doing things whereas I suspect that having a healthy club system does more - includes more than just your identified 'selects', exposes them to a wide range of coaches, teammates, opponents, forces the selected to prove themselves and improve, gives others a shot to usurp them in the pecking order, lets people live closer to home (or at least be free to choose), etc. etc.

Canada's fly half was centralized (transplanted to BC from Ontario) and I don't know the full reasons behind it, but she was training with the sevens team for a couple of years, not playing in tournaments much, and not playing club. Played club in the season building up to the last World Cup, then only played two months at uni last fall, but no club after that (lots of UVic students join one of the two clubs post-Christmas). Recently saw her on the touchline watching a club game where she could have been used by the newer club getting pummelled by the longer-established one.

On the flip side, the woman who manages the women's program for Canada plays as much club rugby as she can (for the Victoria club that just won its second-straight BC Prem title). She should honestly should put her hand up for selection as she looks better at running a backline and having a go / finding support than any 10 options we've had in the last four or five years!


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Yeah. I detest centralisation. I'm all for central coordination to some extent and national camps when needed but it's a popular concept that I rarely see success bar in something like Cycling which I see as low hanging fruit anyway.


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Yeah. I detest centralisation. I'm all for central coordination to some extent and national camps when needed but it's a popular concept that I rarely see success bar in something like Cycling which I see as low hanging fruit anyway.


It's also a different beast, team sport. I get how some Olympic individual events you get your specimen and try and manage all the little things so they can peak. I don't believe in 'peaking' in the same sense with team sport - there's getting a lot of things right, of course, from selection to managing their work / rest - but I think having consistently strong national teams comes from having a healthy club system feeding it, with it's high standard but also its diversity (ABs of course, Ferns' club and provincial matches, England women have had a strong top division for a long time).


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I agree, especially in team sports which actually benefit from a variety of thinking, variety of skills and a creative and tactical element from a variety of sources. Also grassroots are massively important. Unlike cycling or rowing you can't teach adult players all the skills and understanding. Also as much as the science is highly important there is an artform to putting together sides with the right players, tactics and coaching.


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https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/44062807

Women's world cup to stay at 12 teams but introduce quarter final stages. To go from 23 days to 35 days and squads expand from 28 to 30. England, France, Australia and New Zealand have all expressed interest in hosting the 2023 tournament.

My thoughts:

Not expanding could be a problem Last time Scotland missed out, but they are very much hugely improved as a side. There could be an issue where they Italy or Spain fight out for a single spot or exclude an Asian nation form it. It also prevents fast developing Nations like The Netherlands, Germany, Belgium, Hong Kong or South Africa from realistically aiming for the world cup somewhere. Or alternatively them qualifying at the expensive of a superior team. All of which has women's Rugby going backwards somewhere. There may be a gap between the top 6 and bottom 6 at the world cup but the gap between 12 and 18 is small. The women's game is ripe for expansion. A 16 team tournament with 8 European sides, 2 Tasman sides, 2 Asian sides, 2 North American sides, an African side or 2 would be truely a global tournament that reflects Rugby's strengths.

35 days is far better while not being to long as well. It will still be a fun snappy tournament.

Be interesting to see who wins out the next bid. Surely to soon for France to host again. But where have we heard that before?


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eldaniel, I've got a laundry list of reasons why England 7s are crap after watching them against Fiji ...

* defence often caught going sideways, with high / passive tackles, susceptible to the cut-back and over-running; misses mean entire system collapses and they're exposed badly (esp when speedster has to come in and cover, leaving wing exposed)

* holding onto the ball into the tackle, when better off passing before; offloads poor, lots of passes going to ground or directly to receiver, halting her momentum / chance to run

* poor support ... a few times two women had something going on and you'd think they were the only ones on the pitch. Surely players being paid to train all the time can't lack fitness to support breaks or are they being told to stick to certain channels / areas / patterns / etc???

* outmuscled in contact by the Fijian women, who put rucks under a lot of pressure and won a few by countering

* don't back themselves ... Fisher had a great run where she made three Fijians look like they'd never tackled someone before. Other times, players immediately gave up the fight when a hand was laid on them. Late the game, Matthews throws a crap offload when 5m from the line that turns over possession, but if she'd pumped her legs two or three more times, he'd have been over. Same with some of the speedsters. Have a go 1v1 - which is what the Aussies and Kiwis do so well. Fiji had a couple who did that as well. You beat one player and often two more defenders converge to make amends; with your support funnelling in, you should make massive gains, if not score.


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All the more confirmation that England's 7's coaches are clueless. Another case of an ex-player in the system given a job and no real experience or proven history to back it up. Watching what little 7's I can, it does seem Heather Fisher is the only genuinely player who looks like she is experienced at 7's.

Again a number of those faults go back to England coaches not installing quick and correct decision making into players and making players unable to analyse and make quick and correct decisions.


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BTW, Lucy Lomax has been reporting on the Premiership all year with little short videos and a fair few interviews with players. It's interesting because obviously many of these players are rarely ever interviewed, especially the non-internationals. Here's her channel.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCCILe- ... zQA/videos

Also I'm thinking of writing a team of the season post in a few hours.


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The Tyrell's Premiership team of the season (IMO):

1. Vickii Cornborough (Harlequins) - Simply put the perfect loosehead and got better and better as the season went on. Harlequins stand-out forward in the Tyrell's final in Ealing.
2. Clara Neilson (Bristol) - Really had a good season
3. Chloe Edwards (Harlequins) Always in the center of Quins
4. Abbey Scott (Harlequins) Lineout master and always in the middle of work)
5. Sonia Green (Saracens) a great all round lock.
6. Shaunagh Brown (Saracens) Monster carrier, added good ruck work and a good awareness of what's around her.
7. Marle Packer (Saracens) Best openside in an English shirt.
8. Poppy Cleall (Saracens) - The bets forward in the world IMO. Has the complete package of strength, size and skill. Plus a brain.
9. Bianca Blackburn (Gloucester-Hartpury) Most consistent 9, just beating out Quin's one.
10. Natasha Jones (Loughborough) - Ran the show at Loughborough, criminally underrated.
11. Jessica Breech (Harlequins) - Would have been top try scorer had she not gone to 7's
12. Helena Rowland(Saracens) - Close between her and Tatayana Heard but Rowland keeps the Saracens backline flowing nicey with unselfish plays all game every game)
13. Rachel Lund (GH) - essentially in attack for Gloucester.Pace to burn.
14. Abby Dow (Wasps) -Best all round winger and has the tries to show for it.
15. Danielle Waterman (Wasps) - Best Full Back in the world.


16. Davinia Catlin (Fire for Quins)
17. Sasha Acheson (Comeback from knee surgery and boosted Gloucester a ton. Outstanding 2nd half of the seaosn, should be back with England)
18. Justine Lucas (A real monster for Wasps)
19. Deborah McCormack (strong 2nd half of the season, unlucky she played flanker for a bit to not nail one position)
20. Brynony Cleall (Unlucky not to be in the first 15, outstanding season should should be seriously considered for England)
21. Leanna Riley (Just pipped for the 9 shirt)
22. Zoe Harrison (Gonna be the star 10 soon.)
23. Charlotte Pearce (Superb feet)

Not surprised the forward pack is Saracens and Quins heavy. Those two packs monstered most they met. The Saracens backrow is without peer right now and couldbe/shouldbe the England backrow right now. It's not that other flankers and 8's are worse, but few backrows match the bulk, power and skill they have. It might be game changing. Lots of women's 6's and 7's for example and small work horses rather then physical monsters with the workrate and skill. Likewise a similar case could be made for the Quins tight 5.


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What do you think Neige?

http://www.scrumqueens.com/news/sandro- ... -role-good

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“We’re happy to announce that Sandro Fiorino will remove the interim title to officially lead Canada’s Women’s Fifteens Team moving forward,” said Dustin Hopkins, Rugby Canada Interim General Manager.

After helping lead Canada’s Women’s Sevens Team to a historic bronze medal at the 2016 Summer Olympics in Rio de Janeiro, Fiorino moved back to Toronto to build a next-generation academy focusing on finding and developing young athletes in eastern Canada.


“Sandro will continue to focus on developing next generation athletes for sevens, based on his current role, while also taking an expanded responsibility to oversee the Senior Women’s Programme,” added Hopkins.

Fiorino, originally from Toronto, is a former high level rugby and football player and full time employee with Rugby Canada’s Women’s Programme since 2011. As Head Coach, Fiorino led Canada’s Women’s Under-20 Team to back-to-back undefeated Nations Cup Championships in 2013-14, with victories over England, South Africa and USA.

“Having Sandro working on the development of sevens players at the academy level and the continued development of players through the pathway to both 7s and 15s will further enhance women’s rugby in Canada,” said Meaghan Howat, Rugby Canada’s Director of Rugby Sevens and Women’s Rugby.

“Additionally, his talent identification at U Sports and at the Canadian Rugby Championship will support both codes of the game as he works with our targeted athletes at the Under-18 level, but also continues to assess and track university and senior players,” added Howat.

Fiorino has received plenty of plaudits for his work in identifying and developing athletes. He spotted Ghislaine Landry a dozen years ago at a high school tournament and she is now Canada's sevens captain and the top points scorer on the HSBC World Rugby Women’s Sevens Series. Fiorino is also currently enrolled in the advanced coaching diploma in Canada developing his coaching skills towards the performance end of the game.

“I’m excited to take over the fifteens program, which has seen success and growth over the years. My goal is to have alignment within the sevens and fifteens programs to have a shared pathway for women’s rugby to continue excelling in Canada,” said Fiorino.

“I will be building out a plan to strengthen the way we identity and develop our athletes from across the country to help drive elite women’s rugby forward. The plan will have three simple goals: to achieve podium performances at the next Women’s Rugby World Cup in 202, to create a united talent structure and system that grows players from age grade to senior and to align grassroots, universities, regional and provincial/territorial talent development with a talent pathway."

Rugby Canada can also confirm that Jack Hanratty has been named the Head Coach of Canada’s Women’s Under-20 Program, effective immediately.

“We are also pleased to announce that Jack Hanratty will take over the Under-20 Women’s Head Coach position. Following a very detailed review process of the 2017 season, I believe that we have managed to assemble a strong and experienced coaching staff. We are looking forward to building on the work done by Francois Ratier,” said Hopkins.

Canada’s Under-20 Women’s Team will face England in a three-game series in Nova Scotia in August.


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Also a huge loss to Saracens women:

https://twitter.com/SaracensWomen/statu ... 2922423296

https://www.saracens.com/news-article/r ... ional-role

Rob Cain has been outstanding, Saracens play with the heads-up Rugby and game awareness I crave in more English teams as well as they are brilliant in the ruck, develop high skill forwards to integrate the backs and forwards in attack, tight defense, smart play and ruthlessly efficient attack. Saracens women play the all out Rugby I am desperate to see in more sides. A huge boost to USA Rugby. I actually hope that run there is prep and that he returns to be England Women's head coach after the next RWC.


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I'll reserve my statement to: The US are better off than us. :)


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Nieghorn wrote:
I'll reserve my statement to: The US are better off than us. :)


:lol:

The shame is Rob Cain's usual game plan is perfect for Canada, who essentially have raw but powerful forwards and some athletes in the backs. He'd be great for you guys.


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https://twitter.com/EnglandRugby/status ... 2912879617

England Women's defense coach to join Saints.

Ex-England player Amy Turner joins Quins Ladies coaching staff.

https://www.quins.co.uk/news/amy-turner ... ng-set-up/


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Mike Pearce, a long time passionate follower of the women's game, is doing a Podcast review of the season for each club:

https://www.spreaker.com/user/8943115/t ... f-a-madman


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DMP Sharks looking for a coach:

https://twitter.com/DMP_Sharks/status/9 ... 5278795776


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Curse my family's long history as Canucks! They've been here since the 1870s at the latest, so have no option to get a dual passport and right to work in the UK. :(


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Nieghorn wrote:
eldanielfire wrote:



Curse my family's long history as Canucks! They've been here since the 1870s at the latest, so have no option to get a dual passport and right to work in the UK. :(



The funny thing is, you'd probably love coaching them, they have a string of good talent coming through and a skeleton of England players to build around.


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eldanielfire wrote:
Nieghorn wrote:
eldanielfire wrote:



Curse my family's long history as Canucks! They've been here since the 1870s at the latest, so have no option to get a dual passport and right to work in the UK. :(



The funny thing is, you'd probably love coaching them, they have a string of good talent coming through and a skeleton of England players to build around.



Oh, gee, thanks for making me regret it more. :) Maybe this Brexit mess will open up work visas to Commonwealth citizens? We're cousins!


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Nieghorn wrote:
eldanielfire wrote:
Nieghorn wrote:
eldanielfire wrote:



Curse my family's long history as Canucks! They've been here since the 1870s at the latest, so have no option to get a dual passport and right to work in the UK. :(



The funny thing is, you'd probably love coaching them, they have a string of good talent coming through and a skeleton of England players to build around.



Oh, gee, thanks for making me regret it more. :) Maybe this Brexit mess will open up work visas to Commonwealth citizens? We're cousins!


I was gonna post future work options do look far better.


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https://twitter.com/WaterlooLadies/stat ... 4379480069

Firewood Waterloo get the new head coach Nigehorn once pondered to go for :nod:


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I'm continuing to think that while the RFU want a successful Women's game, they aren't actually interested in making it one.

So far we have no England summer tour (Why?) and New Zealand have already sorted out their November tests. England seem to have the square root of nothing sorted for the future. I suspect the RFU is going "well the new women's league was a success" and will be living off that for a long while while their biggest rivals who just spanked them in a world cup final, a final the RFU really wanted to have won, seem to be more organised and focuses than ever.

How hard can it be to organise a few easy home tests (or even tour Australia) and then plan out the November test when almost the entirety of the top 6 are already ahead there. How can they grow the popularity of the women's game without presence or games to promote and rave about? This should be routine stuff every year. They just had a few record attendances, why not throw a summer game or two up north and promote the crap out of it. Why not have November Tests lined up and ticket details sorted so marketing can push tickets and about the women's game with has a lot of goodwill and hot press recently?


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Black Fern's award contracts to their XV's players:

http://www.scrumqueens.com/news/nz-anno ... cted-squad

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The players will be paid between $12,000 and $20,000, with about half a dozen players on the higher amount.

Black Ferns Head Coach Glenn Moore said Faamausili's was a huge boost to the experience of the squad.

"We are thrilled to offer Fi a contract. She is as fit as she's ever been and is super passionate about being inolved. There are a number of new faces among those named and to have Fi's skills and experience to call on will be invaluable. She also brings fantastic skills in her position and it's an area we need to develop with newer players. She can help us with that.

"Among this squad are a number of very talented young players who have been working hard in their clubs and Provincial Unions. Our talent identification programme has helped us develop depth in our wider player pool and the Black Ferns performance at the World Cup has given players something to aspire to."

Moore said the 28 players announced today weren't necessarily guaranteed a spot in the 2018 Black Ferns team and they would need to continue to work hard in their club teams and provinces to be considered for the black jersey.

"We have a Black Ferns training camp in mid-June when we'll get a much better idea of how everyone is tracking. There's also the possibility we'll offer a contract to players outside of the initial contracted squad."



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eldanielfire wrote:
https://twitter.com/WaterlooLadies/status/997421604379480069

Firewood Waterloo get the new head coach Nigehorn once pondered to go for :nod:



Saw that the other day. C'mon Brexit, let me in so I can have a good shot at these jobs! ;)


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Some of the girls a friend coaches at their prom. :lol:

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:lol:

I've been enjoying the comments on social media from some players about the pain of the return to pre-season. Actually yesterday I was on another RFU course and with me where multiple women's university players and a player who played for Worcester Valkaries last season.

Also for women's Rugby players around the SOuth East or London Harlequins are hosting an Open day for players to try out for their team or their developing team:

https://www.quins.co.uk/news/harlequins ... t-it-takes

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THE LONDON CLUB CONFIRMS THE DATE FOR THIS YEAR’S OPEN TRY-OUTS FOR THEIR SENIOR AND DEVELOPMENT SQUADS.

The historic quartered jersey is one of the most prestigious in the world of sport, and Harlequins Ladies has certainly done it proud in its first standalone season with runner-up performances in both the Tyrrells Premier 15s league and the RFU Women’s Senior Cup.

In a squad that is delicately balanced between established internationals, consummate club players and rising stars, Quins boasts one of the most rounded player rosters in English women’s rugby.

With the 2018/19 season fast-approaching, however, the coaches are on the look-out for new talent and the Open Day, held on Saturday 23rd June at the team’s training facility at Surrey Sports Park (registration, 10:30), serves as the perfect opportunity for players to come down and show what they can do.

For the chance to attend the open day, please fill-in the registration form found by clicking here.

Once completed, please send to the team by clicking here.



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India are playing in their first ever XV tomorrow:

https://www.worldrugby.org/news/338529?lang=en


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Players at Epsom races:

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Also it's good to see Harriet Millar Mills walking around after her injury ended her season.


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Pretty damning of Irish Rugby, actively denying their women games: https://www.independent.ie/sport/rugby/ ... 92026.html


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Nieghorn wrote:
Pretty damning of Irish Rugby, actively denying their women games: https://www.independent.ie/sport/rugby/ ... 92026.html



The IRFU seem to have treated their women's team as advertising fodder for their men's world cup hosting campaign. Now it's over they odn't give a damn sadly.


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