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PostPosted: Sat Sep 21, 2019 2:01 pm 
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Lillicrap? That seems an unfortunate name


I know :lol:



I'd put up former England player Monica Lewinska as a candidate. I think Australia capped a Brumbies player called Pip Butt.


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Rumours that Sale and Newcastle are looking at getting involved in the women's game.

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Call me a traditionalist, but I find that so sad. Lichfield likely gone. Will Richmond be next? Worcester at least have the pro side for now (I'm guessing?) giving them support.

I'd like to think that a club could still earn their way into the top tier, but it seems increasingly like the Women's Premiership will be closed off to those with enough money.


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Call me a traditionalist, but I find that so sad. Lichfield likely gone. Will Richmond be next? Worcester at least have the pro side for now (I'm guessing?) giving them support.

I'd like to think that a club could still earn their way into the top tier, but it seems increasingly like the Women's Premiership will be closed off to those with enough money.


It's been a similar situation in football sadly. The trailblazers of the women's game, those that committed to it and supported it and actually grew the game and made it into something worth caring about.

The position is now is that there are demands for women's sport to get professional, e.g. paid, but it has yet to have the fanbases built up so this is sustainable. Now I'm all for the men's game to financially support the women's game (due to a century of oppression etc) while they build the sport up, but I was thinking something more like a slice of the TV money or sponsorship being put aside for the women's game. Instead we have haphazard and disjointed model of clubs maybe or maybe not clocking a women's team is good press (or being one of the few without one being bad press) being the driver of the women's game rather than a coordinated investment from the sport as a whole with even some support given to women's lower divisions.

As you say Litchfield, Richmond and Thurrock where all major and historic women's sides. The game will quickly lose it's soul if finances become the be all and end all of what makes a women's team survive or be competitive.


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Scrumqueens.com Team of the Decade

1 Rochelle Clark (England)
2 Fiao’o Faamausili (NZ)
3 Sarah Bern (England)
4 Rawinia Everitt (NZ)
5 Safi N'Diaye (France)
6 Karen Paquin (Canada)
7 Maggie Alphonsi (England)
8 Sarah Hunter (England)
9 Kendra Cocksedge (NZ)
10 Katy Daley-Mclean (England)
11 Alison Miller (Ireland)
12 Kelly Brazier (NZ)
13 Emily Scarratt (England)
14 Danielle Waterman (England)
15 Niamh Briggs (Ireland)

Replacments: 16 Gaelle Mignot (France) 17 Jamie Burke (USA) 18 Linda Itunu (NZ) 19 Latoya Blackwood (Canada) 20 Claire Molloy (Ireland) 21 Marie-Alice Yahe (France) 22 Renee Wickliffe (NZ) 23 Jessy Tremouliere (France)



So many "nahs" on that list, for me ...


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 Post subject: Re: Women's Rugby thread
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Nieghorn wrote:
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Scrumqueens.com Team of the Decade

1 Rochelle Clark (England)
2 Fiao’o Faamausili (NZ)
3 Sarah Bern (England)
4 Rawinia Everitt (NZ)
5 Safi N'Diaye (France)
6 Karen Paquin (Canada)
7 Maggie Alphonsi (England)
8 Sarah Hunter (England)
9 Kendra Cocksedge (NZ)
10 Katy Daley-Mclean (England)
11 Alison Miller (Ireland)
12 Kelly Brazier (NZ)
13 Emily Scarratt (England)
14 Danielle Waterman (England)
15 Niamh Briggs (Ireland)

Replacments: 16 Gaelle Mignot (France) 17 Jamie Burke (USA) 18 Linda Itunu (NZ) 19 Latoya Blackwood (Canada) 20 Claire Molloy (Ireland) 21 Marie-Alice Yahe (France) 22 Renee Wickliffe (NZ) 23 Jessy Tremouliere (France)



So many "nahs" on that list, for me ...


It's total bollocks isn't it. They've been routinely slaughtered n their twitter account. Th two Irish pics are utterly one eyed (oh a one eyed Irish Rugby fans who overrate their own shocker) and wouldn't get in over almost all the English or kiwi wingers, which is obvious given they moved Waterman to wing fro Fullback. Safi N'Diaye is a big lump with no hands who only moved to lock last season. While I think Bern is an x-factor player, no way she is yet England's best tighthead of the past decade. Hunter has played most of her career at 6, behind Cath Spencer. While commentators rave about Hunter's ball control at the back of the scrum she sin't quite as physical as Spencer or as skilled as even her teammates who play 8. I could go on.

I love the work Scrum Queens do, it's basically legendary as journalists of the women's game. But good judges of rugby players they are not. They often defer to hype rather than observation. I think a good example is when they raved about Botterman before this 6 Nations and I pointed out (as I often have done) she's a lump and rubbish as an actual prop who can't scrum and is covered up by the sheer power and weight of the England/Sarries pack vs most amateur teams, before the Ireland game. They insisted I was wrong and then DM'ed me to agree her scrumming was horrific after watching Ireland rip her apart constantly in embarrassing ways.


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 Post subject: Re: Women's Rugby thread
PostPosted: Fri Oct 18, 2019 1:29 pm 
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The Women's European Trophy is on. Sweden, Finland, Switzerland and Czechia fight it out. Finland and Czechia just playeda and RUgby Europe are showing the games:

https://www.rugbyeurope.eu/2019-20-reic ... vs-czechia

2nd November: Sweden v Finland (Malmö)
9th November: Czechia v Switzerland (Prague)
16th November: Czechia v Sweden (Prague)
23rd November: Switzerland v Finland (Yverdon)
9th May: Sweden v Switzerland (Norkoping) (Random I assume due to the Swedish Winter. Sweden IMO should win this)

Games can be watched here:

https://www.rugbyeurope.eu/competitions ... men-trophy

It's weird as it's the 3rd tier of European women's rugby but the format is Longer than the tier above giving these teams more test matches than Spain, The Netherlands, Germany and Russia. Which is a semi-final then final format. Not sure where Belgium are as they were in that 2nd tier last year, got replaced by Russia but don't appear to be playing in this. Maybe there is a format change next year as they play just after the 6 Nations?


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Ah found the dates:

7th March: Germany v Spain
21st March: Netherlands v Germany
5th April: Spain v Russia
12th April: Spain v Netherlands
TBA: Russia v Germany
TBA: Netherlands v Russia

https://www.scrumqueens.com/news/europe ... on-process

It is also an expanded format. Good news for Women's rugby. Also women's Wolrd cup qualification:

The four teams in the European qualifier will be seeded based on their World Rankings as of 1st July 2020. If it was based on current rankings (and assuming Spain with the European Championship), the seedings would be:

Italy (6th, 79.17pts)
Spain (9th, 74.35 pts)
Ireland (10th, 72.44 pts)
Scotland (12th, 66.43 pts)
The gap between Scotland and the rest, and Italy's lead over the other nations, means that it is most likley that Italy will play Scotland and Ireland will play Spain in the two semi-finals.

The semi-finals will be held on the weekends of the 5th and 12th September:

5th/6th September:
4th seed v 1st seed [Scotland v Italy, on current seeding]
3rd seed v 2nd seed [Ireland v Spain]

12th/13th September:
1st seed v 4th seed [Italy v Scotland]
2nd seed v 3rd seed [Spain v Ireland]

The final will be single game on the weekend of 26th September, played at the home of the highest seeded team.


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I realized how out of the loop I am where geo-politics are concerned that I didn't even realize that Czechia is now a thing! :lol:


... also noticed that Sarries have the Scottish FH (or former FH). Tyrrell's looking a lot like the Ontario university circuit where all the best players end up at just three or four schools, having talent on the bench who'd be starters at other schools. :?


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I realized how out of the loop I am where geo-politics are concerned that I didn't even realize that Czechia is now a thing! :lol:


I recall when it was proposed, due to the Czech Republic wanting a commercially more attractive name but worried about that little province of Russia that has had a war or two. Then suddenly it was in place before I knew it had changed.

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... also noticed that Sarries have the Scottish FH (or former FH). Tyrrell's looking a lot like the Ontario university circuit where all the best players end up at just three or four schools, having talent on the bench who'd be starters at other schools. :?


I somewhat agree. It seems it's Quins and Sarries are packed to the brim, Loughborough are trying too be like them, then a mid-tier of Bristol, Gloucester and Wasps who rely on hot young talent that will probably end up at Sarries or Quins and some stragglers who are already getting stripped of what little talent they have by the top 3. It was more competitive before the Tyrells was started.


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eldanielfire wrote:
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I realized how out of the loop I am where geo-politics are concerned that I didn't even realize that Czechia is now a thing! :lol:


I recall when it was proposed, due to the Czech Republic wanting a commercially more attractive name but worried about that little province of Russia that has had a war or two. Then suddenly it was in place before I knew it had changed.

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... also noticed that Sarries have the Scottish FH (or former FH). Tyrrell's looking a lot like the Ontario university circuit where all the best players end up at just three or four schools, having talent on the bench who'd be starters at other schools. :?


I somewhat agree. It seems it's Quins and Sarries are packed to the brim, Loughborough are trying too be like them, then a mid-tier of Bristol, Gloucester and Wasps who rely on hot young talent that will probably end up at Sarries or Quins and some stragglers who are already getting stripped of what little talent they have by the top 3. It was more competitive before the Tyrells was started.

presumably because Sarries and Quins have been integrated with their mens teams more?

Be interesting to see how Briz and Exeter (if they get in) go on that front.


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Plastic Sarrie wrote:
eldanielfire wrote:
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I realized how out of the loop I am where geo-politics are concerned that I didn't even realize that Czechia is now a thing! :lol:


I recall when it was proposed, due to the Czech Republic wanting a commercially more attractive name but worried about that little province of Russia that has had a war or two. Then suddenly it was in place before I knew it had changed.

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... also noticed that Sarries have the Scottish FH (or former FH). Tyrrell's looking a lot like the Ontario university circuit where all the best players end up at just three or four schools, having talent on the bench who'd be starters at other schools. :?


I somewhat agree. It seems it's Quins and Sarries are packed to the brim, Loughborough are trying too be like them, then a mid-tier of Bristol, Gloucester and Wasps who rely on hot young talent that will probably end up at Sarries or Quins and some stragglers who are already getting stripped of what little talent they have by the top 3. It was more competitive before the Tyrells was started.

presumably because Sarries and Quins have been integrated with their mens teams more?

Be interesting to see how Briz and Exeter (if they get in) go on that front.


Sarries wasn't well integrated at the start of the Tyrells besides using their ground they weren't even able to use Sarries facilities until they won the league and Wray caught on as to how good they are. Quins are deffo the post clubs for integration, can't see a poster round the club of the male players without seeing a female one. Though I know Quins seem to have perks like free accommodation and some players get jobs within the organisation as well.


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Young people want to be in / more jobs on offer in the London area, too?


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eldanielfire wrote:
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Scrumqueens.com Team of the Decade

1 Rochelle Clark (England)
2 Fiao’o Faamausili (NZ)
3 Sarah Bern (England)
4 Rawinia Everitt (NZ)
5 Safi N'Diaye (France)
6 Karen Paquin (Canada)
7 Maggie Alphonsi (England)
8 Sarah Hunter (England)
9 Kendra Cocksedge (NZ)
10 Katy Daley-Mclean (England)
11 Alison Miller (Ireland)
12 Kelly Brazier (NZ)
13 Emily Scarratt (England)
14 Danielle Waterman (England)
15 Niamh Briggs (Ireland)

Replacments: 16 Gaelle Mignot (France) 17 Jamie Burke (USA) 18 Linda Itunu (NZ) 19 Latoya Blackwood (Canada) 20 Claire Molloy (Ireland) 21 Marie-Alice Yahe (France) 22 Renee Wickliffe (NZ) 23 Jessy Tremouliere (France)



So many "nahs" on that list, for me ...


It's total bollocks isn't it. They've been routinely slaughtered n their twitter account. Th two Irish pics are utterly one eyed (oh a one eyed Irish Rugby fans who overrate their own shocker) and wouldn't get in over almost all the English or kiwi wingers, which is obvious given they moved Waterman to wing fro Fullback. [b][b][b]Safi N'Diaye is a big lump with no hands who only moved to lock last season[/b][/b][/b]. While I think Bern is an x-factor player, no way she is yet England's best tighthead of the past decade. Hunter has played most of her career at 6, behind Cath Spencer. While commentators rave about Hunter's ball control at the back of the scrum she sin't quite as physical as Spencer or as skilled as even her teammates who play 8. I could go on.

I love the work Scrum Queens do, it's basically legendary as journalists of the women's game. But good judges of rugby players they are not. They often defer to hype rather than observation. I think a good example is when they raved about Botterman before this 6 Nations and I pointed out (as I often have done) she's a lump and rubbish as an actual prop who can't scrum and is covered up by the sheer power and weight of the England/Sarries pack vs most amateur teams, before the Ireland game. They insisted I was wrong and then DM'ed me to agree her scrumming was horrific after watching Ireland rip her apart constantly in embarrassing ways.

Not knowledgeable enough to compare N'Diaye to others. She is past her best but I would make room for her in any pack, front row excepted. Hands are nothing special but she is no lump - her power and presence up front are immensely significant in the balance of a match and perhaps even more so on a mudbath. Not sexy but it's a huge part of what you need to win.


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0cJNbBinTU

Wasps vs Loughborough about to be streamed.


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One of the things that is making me jump with joy is how they have expanded the 2nd and 3rd tier Women's competitions so they play more games. This month there are also waaaaay more women's tests being played, the most ever outside a world cup year:

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PLUS these 3 non-tests:

Occitane v Spain (Toulouse, 16th Nov)
Wales v Crawshaws (Cardiff, 23rd Nov)
Wales v Barbarians (Cardiff, 30th Nov)

(all thanks to scrum queens)


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Sorry, Worcester ... I don't think this is going to help ... they're not even passing the tennis balls with the same sort of accuracy you'd want out of a rugby pass.

https://twitter.com/WorcsWarriorsW/stat ... 02816?s=20

Can you tell I hate this sort of gimmicky stuff? Just keep passing a normal ball, focusing on accuracy and increasing speed/distance. I've heard a sport scientist say that these reaction exercises are mostly only good for getting better at those reaction exercises - not transferable to other tests.


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Nieghorn wrote:
Sorry, Worcester ... I don't think this is going to help ... they're not even passing the tennis balls with the same sort of accuracy you'd want out of a rugby pass.

https://twitter.com/WorcsWarriorsW/stat ... 02816?s=20

Can you tell I hate this sort of gimmicky stuff? Just keep passing a normal ball, focusing on accuracy and increasing speed/distance. I've heard a sport scientist say that these reaction exercises are mostly only good for getting better at those reaction exercises - not transferable to other tests.


I think some of it variation in training.

The rest I think is mistaken how skills learned in childhood development help your skills in another sport. Not sure that principle works in adults.


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ujb7iHOA2pk

Loughborough vs Harlequins. Live now!


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Eldan, the scrum half will be a familiar name ...

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Yeah, I heard she had moved to Canada and had spoken about a new start. I didn't know the details excpet a fresh start, but didn't know if it was traveling or moving away, seeing as lot of players take a sabbatical. I wonder if she has moved.


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This month there are also waaaaay more women's tests being played, the most ever outside a world cup year:


Spain v Wales is actually on Sunday 3rd Nov.


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Yeah, I heard she had moved to Canada and had spoken about a new start. I didn't know the details excpet a fresh start, but didn't know if it was traveling or moving away, seeing as lot of players take a sabbatical. I wonder if she has moved.


Not sure what she’s doing careerwise, but was told by a friend who plays there that her partner is a Canuck int’l.


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Nieghorn wrote:
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Yeah, I heard she had moved to Canada and had spoken about a new start. I didn't know the details excpet a fresh start, but didn't know if it was traveling or moving away, seeing as lot of players take a sabbatical. I wonder if she has moved.


Not sure what she’s doing careerwise, but was told by a friend who plays there that her partner is a Canuck int’l.


Makes sense. Looking at women's football in this country, which is a but easier to track gay relationships, it is obvious a huge number of ladies move clubs due to their relationships and partners. A lot of the foreign internationals have arrived due to their partner playing here. I guess there's no real bother about money and contracts in women's sports.


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Nieghorn wrote:
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Yeah, I heard she had moved to Canada and had spoken about a new start. I didn't know the details excpet a fresh start, but didn't know if it was traveling or moving away, seeing as lot of players take a sabbatical. I wonder if she has moved.


Not sure what she’s doing careerwise, but was told by a friend who plays there that her partner is a Canuck int’l.


It's Paige Farries.


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Know what ... I'd probably never get a look in, but will at least try. (Like I once applied to coach at Auckland Grammar, I think, and the CV was to be sent to Bryan Williams of All Blacks notoriety!)

I do know my shit, and hope one day someone will take me on what I know and not on my name/accent. :)


Has that been Susie Appleby's gig, or someone else or something new?


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Know what ... I'd probably never get a look in, but will at least try. (Like I once applied to coach at Auckland Grammar, I think, and the CV was to be sent to Bryan Williams of All Blacks notoriety!)

I do know my shit, and hope one day someone will take me on what I know and not on my name/accent. :)


Has that been Susie Appleby's gig, or someone else or something new?


Yes, I believe she is going to Exeter's new women's team.


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Scarratt, Bern and Daley-McLean are up against Pauline Bourdon (France) and Kendra Cocksedge (New Zealand) for the women’s player of the year award.

Scarratt for me....(for the award too. ;) )


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Scarratt, Bern and Daley-McLean are up against Pauline Bourdon (France) and Kendra Cocksedge (New Zealand) for the women’s player of the year award.

Scarratt for me....(for the award too. ;) )


Bern might get it, she was a monster in the 6 Nations.


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Scarratt, Bern and Daley-McLean are up against Pauline Bourdon (France) and Kendra Cocksedge (New Zealand) for the women’s player of the year award.

Scarratt for me....(for the award too. ;) )


Bern might get it, she was a monster in the 6 Nations.

They were all pretty damned good, to be fair.


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I missed it yesterday with having a few drinks with pals after the RWC game but the replay of Finland vs Sweden (in a double bill) from yesterday is here:

https://www.rugbyeurope.eu/2019-20-reic ... vs-finland

OR here:

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x7ngd12 (might be better)

In the pouring rain it seems.

I believe there will be many European test games streamed this month and I'm very excited about it :nod: I've been weirdly reserach and finding out more about the Swedish (who have quite a few playing in the Tyrells Premiership now) and Dutch sides as I think they could be potentially challengers in quality to the 6 Nations and seem to be trying to really develop the sport in their borders. Likewise I've been tracking the Finnish and Swiss as well.


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Unfortunately it's the opposite. Sweden and Netherlands had developed local rugby earlier than almost anybody and went dramatically backwards when most women's rugby made a bet on 7s. Remember that the Swedish narrowly beat Italy and Spain in Stockholm to qualify for 2010 Women's Rugby World Cup. But they will now have to do a lot of work now to catch up a lost decade.

The other big game of the weekend is over, Spain has comfortably beaten Wales at home. Caught these highlights on Twitter:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2xRAZJT8io


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message #2527204 wrote:
eldanielfire wrote:
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Scarratt, Bern and Daley-McLean are up against Pauline Bourdon (France) and Kendra Cocksedge (New Zealand) for the women’s player of the year award.

Scarratt for me....(for the award too. ;) )


Bern might get it, she was a monster in the 6 Nations.

They were all pretty damned good, to be fair.


Scarratt wins it. Certainly can't think of a more deserving player.


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Unfortunately it's the opposite. Sweden and Netherlands had developed local rugby earlier than almost anybody and went dramatically backwards when most women's rugby made a bet on 7s. Remember that the Swedish narrowly beat Italy and Spain in Stockholm to qualify for 2010 Women's Rugyb World Cup. But they will now have to do a lot of work now to catch up a lost decade.


I'm aware it all basically stopped at the start of the decade, along with many other countries (The other Nordic countries among others).

But they have been re-starting their development again at XV recently and I'm interested. The expanded European tests at the lower tier is helpful to. I'm not waiting to see if they will join Spain in 2 years but I enjoy lower tier rugby and watching how it develops.Sometimes the looser games and greater variation at that level makes it more fun to watch. Another women's team to look out for is Columbia. They just beat Brazil, hard to tell what the level compares elsewhere with but it looks like they are on the up.


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The other big game of the weekend is over, Spain has comfortably beaten Wales at home. Caught these highlights on Twitter:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2xRAZJT8io


Cheers. Wales taking a step backwards there. I think they need more time together before they play tests as they always get better as tournaments go along.


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eldanielfire wrote:
Laszlo wrote:
Unfortunately it's the opposite. Sweden and Netherlands had developed local rugby earlier than almost anybody and went dramatically backwards when most women's rugby made a bet on 7s. Remember that the Swedish narrowly beat Italy and Spain in Stockholm to qualify for 2010 Women's Rugyb World Cup. But they will now have to do a lot of work now to catch up a lost decade.


I'm aware it all basically stopped at the start of the decade, along with many other countries (The other Nordic countries among others).

But they have been re-starting their development again at XV recently and I'm interested. The expanded European tests at the lower tier is helpful to. I'm not waiting to see if they will join Spain in 2 years but I enjoy lower tier rugby and watching how it develops.Sometimes the looser games and greater variation at that level makes it more fun to watch. Another women's team to look out for is Columbia. They just beat Brazil, hard to tell what the level compares elsewhere with but it looks like they are on the up.

I agree, I just wanted to point out that right now international women's rugby is rather about rebuilding what has been destroyed for 10-12 years and creating solid grounds than about expansion.

Even in the Colombian case, they have been involved in women's rugby for some time. One of their best ever players used to play for Spain, Aigneren. There isn't there the divide between sports linked to one gender or the other present in Argentina or Uruguay.


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Laszlo wrote:
eldanielfire wrote:
Laszlo wrote:
Unfortunately it's the opposite. Sweden and Netherlands had developed local rugby earlier than almost anybody and went dramatically backwards when most women's rugby made a bet on 7s. Remember that the Swedish narrowly beat Italy and Spain in Stockholm to qualify for 2010 Women's Rugyb World Cup. But they will now have to do a lot of work now to catch up a lost decade.


I'm aware it all basically stopped at the start of the decade, along with many other countries (The other Nordic countries among others).

But they have been re-starting their development again at XV recently and I'm interested. The expanded European tests at the lower tier is helpful to. I'm not waiting to see if they will join Spain in 2 years but I enjoy lower tier rugby and watching how it develops.Sometimes the looser games and greater variation at that level makes it more fun to watch. Another women's team to look out for is Columbia. They just beat Brazil, hard to tell what the level compares elsewhere with but it looks like they are on the up.

I agree, I just wanted to point out that right now international women's rugby is rather about rebuilding what has been destroyed for 10-12 years and creating solid grounds than about expansion.


That's a good way of putting it actually :thumbup:

I'm probably talking about it being new because 10-15 years ago, women's rugby was near impossible to follow. I could barely catch England's scores. A lot of my knowledge then came from the fact our club's chairman had a daughter in the junior system and would actively promote the game to us.

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Even in the Colombian case, they have been involved in women's rugby for some time. One of their best ever players used to play for Spain, Aigneren. There isn't there the divide between sports linked to one gender or the other present in Argentina or Uruguay.


Agreed. It's a shame that they apparently played a number of games against Venezuela and others in the 2000's that there isn't any official record of.

A quick question, do you ahve nay idea why does Argentina have such a gender divide when it comes to sports? I know their women's Hockey team has done well, (an exception?) but why in the other sports when other South American nations are a bit more equal?


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Probably because elitism adds to machismo. I can hardly think of any popular sport where women from Argentina have excelled, while men counterparts have in football, basketball, boxing... And among elites they were pushed towards sports with less contact. I guess this is changing step by step and the fact they called a woman judoka as their last Olympic flagbearer was clearly intentional. She went to win gold medal, by the way.


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Probably because elitism adds to machismo. I can hardly think of any popular sport where women from Argentina have excelled, while men counterparts have in football, basketball, boxing... And among elites they were pushed towards sports with less contact. I guess this is changing step by step and the fact they called a woman judoka as their last Olympic flagbearer was clearly intentional. She went to win gold medal, by the way.


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