Re: Women's Rugby thread
Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2018 3:20 pm
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tells you about the kind of waste is on at the moment in french rugby... we have a massive rugby culture, with crowds coming to see all games. pfffffffffffffffeldanielfire wrote:Zoe Harrison just scored a stunning solo try, England ahead 27-15 at 60 odd minutes playing away. They haven't beaten France in France in 13 matches. It is also expected to be a record attendance for a U20 women's game.
Why is it a waste? The U20 game could have gone either way and France held an outstanding home record. Your women are doing great right now.jolindien wrote:tells you about the kind of waste is on at the moment in french rugby... we have a massive rugby culture, with crowds coming to see all games. pfffffffffffffffeldanielfire wrote:Zoe Harrison just scored a stunning solo try, England ahead 27-15 at 60 odd minutes playing away. They haven't beaten France in France in 13 matches. It is also expected to be a record attendance for a U20 women's game.
the waste is the state of us... we are wasting french rugby, nothing about the women, was a general comment knowing how rugby may bring quite big crowd into the stadiums here whatever the gameseldanielfire wrote:Why is it a waste? The U20 game could have gone either way and France held an outstanding home record. Your women are doing great right now.jolindien wrote:tells you about the kind of waste is on at the moment in french rugby... we have a massive rugby culture, with crowds coming to see all games. pfffffffffffffffeldanielfire wrote:Zoe Harrison just scored a stunning solo try, England ahead 27-15 at 60 odd minutes playing away. They haven't beaten France in France in 13 matches. It is also expected to be a record attendance for a U20 women's game.
And are ranked in the top 20 about World cup qualifieds Japan, Hing KongLaszlo wrote:Portugal hasn't played a test match for more than 20 years...
In men's ranking inactivity is penalised and teams disappear if they stop playing. In women's World Rugby is probably too afraid to show the true state of the game.eldanielfire wrote:And are ranked in the top 20 about World cup qualifieds Japan, Hing KongLaszlo wrote:Portugal hasn't played a test match for more than 20 years...
Rugby's ranking system is broken
Laszlo wrote:In men's ranking inactivity is penalised and teams disappear if they stop playing. In women's World Rugby is probably too afraid to show the true state of the game.eldanielfire wrote:And are ranked in the top 20 about World cup qualifieds Japan, Hing KongLaszlo wrote:Portugal hasn't played a test match for more than 20 years...
Rugby's ranking system is broken
France to keep third spot ?Nieghorn wrote:Laszlo wrote:In men's ranking inactivity is penalised and teams disappear if they stop playing. In women's World Rugby is probably too afraid to show the true state of the game.eldanielfire wrote:And are ranked in the top 20 about World cup qualifieds Japan, Hing KongLaszlo wrote:Portugal hasn't played a test match for more than 20 years...
Rugby's ranking system is broken
It'll be interesting to see over the next two cycles if the World Cup or the Olympics becomes any different than women's ice hockey, where the gold is contested by the same two teams over and over.
Lots more are taking it more seriously, but the front runners have also taken things up a notch.
I'm not sure that is true, there are plenty of active teams just below them who would happily move up. So much so the European Championship has just restarted and more internationals are playing games then ever before. No one would miss Portugal.Laszlo wrote:In men's ranking inactivity is penalised and teams disappear if they stop playing. In women's World Rugby is probably too afraid to show the true state of the game.eldanielfire wrote:And are ranked in the top 20 about World cup qualifieds Japan, Hing KongLaszlo wrote:Portugal hasn't played a test match for more than 20 years...
Rugby's ranking system is broken
Nieghorn wrote:Laszlo wrote:In men's ranking inactivity is penalised and teams disappear if they stop playing. In women's World Rugby is probably too afraid to show the true state of the game.eldanielfire wrote:And are ranked in the top 20 about World cup qualifieds Japan, Hing KongLaszlo wrote:Portugal hasn't played a test match for more than 20 years...
Rugby's ranking system is broken
It'll be interesting to see over the next two cycles if the World Cup or the Olympics becomes any different than women's ice hockey, where the gold is contested by the same two teams over and over.
Lots more are taking it more seriously, but the front runners have also taken things up a notch.
If you remove Portugal, you must remove quite a few other teams who haven't played test matches in the last year, which is the criteria followed in men's rankings to start deducting points. I don't think we would have more than 20 teams.eldanielfire wrote:I'm not sure that is true, there are plenty of active teams just below them who would happily move up. So much so the European Championship has just restarted and more internationals are playing games then ever before. No one would miss Portugal.Laszlo wrote:In men's ranking inactivity is penalised and teams disappear if they stop playing. In women's World Rugby is probably too afraid to show the true state of the game.eldanielfire wrote:And are ranked in the top 20 about World cup qualifieds Japan, Hing KongLaszlo wrote:Portugal hasn't played a test match for more than 20 years...
Rugby's ranking system is broken
Laszlo wrote: If you remove Portugal, you must remove quite a few other teams who haven't played test matches in the last year, which is the criteria followed in men's rankings to start deducting points. I don't think we would have more than 20 teams.
eldanielfire wrote:Having watched both games you ca see Spain just are used to performing and executing a a higher level than the 3 other teams. The dutch have some really good and pacey attacking backs ...
Sweden, Switzerland, Czech Republic, Portugal I imagine but all a good step below this level. I don't think there is even a formal competition at the level below, only friendly tests - which hardly helps development.eldanielfire wrote:I was gonna post that about the Germany game being played in the snow. Steffi Gruber the German 14 was rapid, good step. Game can be watched here:
http://www.rugbyeurope.eu/2018-women-xv ... -belgium-0
That apparently means Belgium are relegated, but I can't find anything about the level below. Can't imagine there would be much competition, Sweden maybe?
tabascoboy wrote:Sweden, Switzerland, Czech Republic, Portugal I imagine but all a good step below this level. I don't think there is even a formal competition at the level below, only friendly tests - which hardly helps development.eldanielfire wrote:I was gonna post that about the Germany game being played in the snow. Steffi Gruber the German 14 was rapid, good step. Game can be watched here:
http://www.rugbyeurope.eu/2018-women-xv ... -belgium-0
That apparently means Belgium are relegated, but I can't find anything about the level below. Can't imagine there would be much competition, Sweden maybe?
I do believe Sweden played Finland in October/November last year. I guess they won't have much problems doing another fixture.
Four teams will take part in a tournament to be played over two rounds and four days in Switzerland in October. While a proper round-robin over a week would be preferable, the reason for the knockout format (as used for the tournaments played between 2014 and 2016) comes down to cost - none of the teams can afford to stay longer, paying more for accommodation, as well as taking more time off work, not to mention school and family commitments.
So the teams will arrived on a Wednesday, play the semi-finals on Thursday (based on Rugby Europe's rankings, from the outcome of previous tournaments), rest and train on Friday and Saturday, and then play the final and third place games on Sunday.
Switzerland, Czechia, Sweden and Finland were early entrants, but they will now be joined by Russia whose late entry means that - if all the entries take up their places - there will have to be a qualification playoff between Sweden and Finland as neither team have a European ranking, having not played in any Rugby Europe tournaments since 2012 (this begs the question as to whether Rugby Europe would organise a European Conference if any other nations returned to fifteens).
If all teams confirm their participation the semi-finals are therefore expected to be:
Russia v Sweden or Finland
Switzerland v Czechia
Nieghorn wrote:The dummy and linebreak by the Spanish lock!
The Dutch seem to have some very good athletes - and I like their offloading game - but their defence is very passive and their general passing serious lack accuracy.
eldanielfire wrote:If I was a English side in the bottom half of the league I'd seriously consider recruiting some of these dutch ladies, the team would gain some genuine talent and fast physical players, willing to attack and put the tackles in and the Dutch would gain lots of high level coaching and quality game experience that would elevate their national side. It would be a mutual gain.
tabascoboy wrote:Spain really took command of the game though, and are now 37 - 7 up with just a few minutes left.
Nieghorn wrote:eldanielfire wrote:If I was a English side in the bottom half of the league I'd seriously consider recruiting some of these dutch ladies, the team would gain some genuine talent and fast physical players, willing to attack and put the tackles in and the Dutch would gain lots of high level coaching and quality game experience that would elevate their national side. It would be a mutual gain.
I certainly thought about having them over here after posting about that Kiwi we had. Some lean and large forwards in the pack. The backs are athletes and just need more nous.