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Re: Women's Rugby thread

Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2018 9:20 pm
by eldanielfire
Gloucester just beat Quins 40-36 in what sounds like the game of the season. This is why I really wished more of the games were shown

Re: Women's Rugby thread

Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2018 5:05 pm
by eldanielfire
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/ ... ix-nations

With International Women’s Day looming, the Rugby Football Union is reporting a healthy rise in female rugby participation. There are now more than 30,000 registered female players and the successful Inner Warrior recruitment campaign has seen 12,00 women attend camps nationwide, a third of whom had never picked up a rugby ball in their lives. On Saturday, in addition to a potentially decisive Six Nations showdown in Grenoble between France and England, there is an attempt to attract a world-record crowd for a women’s club rugby game when Harlequins play Richmond at the Stoop (kick-off 3pm).
:thumbup:

That's 4000 increase since the autumn when it was 26k. If they carry on like this the RFU will deffo hit their target of 50k players in 4 years or so.

Re: Women's Rugby thread

Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2018 5:19 pm
by eldanielfire
Also the Sarries production line of England talent adds U20 flyhalf/fullback Helena Rowland to the squad.

http://www.englandrugby.com/news/six-na ... or-france/
Backs

Abigal Dow (Wasps FC Ladies), Amber Reed (Bristol Ladies), Caity Mattinson (Bristol Ladies), Charlotte Pearce (Loughborough Lightning), Danielle Waterman (Wasps FC Ladies), Ellie Kildunne (Gloucester-Hartpury Womens RFC), Helena Rowland (Saracens Women), Katy Daley –Mclean (Darlington Mowden Park Sharks), Lagi Tuima (Bristol Ladies), Lauren Cattell (Saracens Women), Leanne Riley (Harlequins Ladies), Rachael Burford (Harlequins Ladies).

Forwards

Abbie Scott (Harlequins Ladies), Amy Cokayne (Wasps FC Ladies), Catherine O’Donnell (Loughborough Lightning), Heather Kerr (Darlington Mowden Park Sharks), Izzy Noel- Smith (Bristol Ladies), Justine Lucas (Wasps FC Ladies), Lark Davies (Worcester Valkyries), Marlie Packer (Saracens Women), Poppy Cleall (Saracens Women), Rochelle Clark (Wasps FC Ladies), Rowena Burnfield (Richmond FC), Sarah Bern (Gloucester-Hartpury Womens RFC), Sarah Hunter (Loughborough Lightning), Shaunagh Brown (Harlequins Ladies), Tamara Taylor (Darlington Mowden Park Sharks), Vickii Cornborough (Harlequins Ladies).
Interesting no Zoe Harrison who came on as super sub for the U20 team and scored a wonder try that was ultimately the decider. Good to see Shaunagh Brown is back in the squad, I hope to see her get some game time.

Re: Women's Rugby thread

Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 2:13 am
by eldanielfire
Scrum Queens twitter feed see several people all but confirm the next WRWC will be in Australia.

Re: Women's Rugby thread

Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 2:27 am
by Nieghorn
No chance that anyone from the Glos or Quins uploaded that match, eh? Sounds like it'd be worth seeing, even if it's from a single-camera analyst's perspective (i.e. my fav ;) )

Re: Women's Rugby thread

Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 6:05 am
by Auckman
http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/on-air/earl ... contracts/

NZ Womens Rugby has gone pro!

BF players to get pro contracts.


Apparently a pro competition is in the pipeline for an 8-week window over the summer months (January-Febuary) in 2019. However, nothing confirmed yet with plenty of work still to go over the commercial viability of it all.

Re: Women's Rugby thread

Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 8:08 am
by eldanielfire
Nieghorn wrote:No chance that anyone from the Glos or Quins uploaded that match, eh? Sounds like it'd be worth seeing, even if it's from a single-camera analyst's perspective (i.e. my fav ;) )
I'm quite gutted it hasn't been shown. Highlights of each match should be part of the standards for each team in the league as they have to film the matches anyway. It can only help promote the women's game. Sadly there were quite a few highlights packages and games uploaded at the start of the season, but it appears to have stopped. Same for games on TV.

Re: Women's Rugby thread

Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 8:11 am
by eldanielfire
Auckman wrote:http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/on-air/earl ... contracts/

NZ Womens Rugby has gone pro!

BF players to get pro contracts.


Apparently a pro competition is in the pipeline for an 8-week window over the summer months (January-Febuary) in 2019. However, nothing confirmed yet with plenty of work still to go over the commercial viability of it all.
Good news. How pro is it? The English league is not pro, but trains in a pro manner but the players are not paid. But I hear the French is.

Re: Women's Rugby thread

Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 8:12 am
by Laurent
eldanielfire wrote:
Auckman wrote:http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/on-air/earl ... contracts/

NZ Womens Rugby has gone pro!

BF players to get pro contracts.


Apparently a pro competition is in the pipeline for an 8-week window over the summer months (January-Febuary) in 2019. However, nothing confirmed yet with plenty of work still to go over the commercial viability of it all.
Good news. How pro is it? The English league is not pro, but trains in a pro manner but the players are not paid. But I hear the French is.
It's not

The only pro players are the7 squad

Re: Women's Rugby thread

Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 8:20 am
by eldanielfire
Laurent wrote:
eldanielfire wrote:
Auckman wrote:http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/on-air/earl ... contracts/

NZ Womens Rugby has gone pro!

BF players to get pro contracts.


Apparently a pro competition is in the pipeline for an 8-week window over the summer months (January-Febuary) in 2019. However, nothing confirmed yet with plenty of work still to go over the commercial viability of it all.
Good news. How pro is it? The English league is not pro, but trains in a pro manner but the players are not paid. But I hear the French is.
It's not

The only pro players are the7 squad

I thought so. The weird thing is, Scotland are paying 3 of it's players to be pro in the French league. I was confused because that means none of the players in France are pro. Officially. But I also know some English players were offered to go to France, which is expanding the league for a little bit of money and accommodation, but would need to take a sabbatical to do it. So I assume there are kinda semi-pro support. Certainly money is being offered to attract players to some degree. Though that is semi-stuff. Ironically making Scotland possibly the only country specifically with pro-women's XV players right now with their 3 in France.

Re: Women's Rugby thread

Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 12:41 pm
by Nieghorn
eldanielfire wrote:
Nieghorn wrote:No chance that anyone from the Glos or Quins uploaded that match, eh? Sounds like it'd be worth seeing, even if it's from a single-camera analyst's perspective (i.e. my fav ;) )
I'm quite gutted it hasn't been shown. Highlights of each match should be part of the standards for each team in the league as they have to film the matches anyway. It can only help promote the women's game. Sadly there were quite a few highlights packages and games uploaded at the start of the season, but it appears to have stopped. Same for games on TV.

They could easily make each team post match video (I'm sure they all shoot something for analysis purposes at their level). It's a rule in the British Columbia men's premier league, and many women's matches will to to youtube as well.

Re: Women's Rugby thread

Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 12:57 pm
by eldanielfire
Nieghorn wrote:
eldanielfire wrote:
Nieghorn wrote:No chance that anyone from the Glos or Quins uploaded that match, eh? Sounds like it'd be worth seeing, even if it's from a single-camera analyst's perspective (i.e. my fav ;) )
I'm quite gutted it hasn't been shown. Highlights of each match should be part of the standards for each team in the league as they have to film the matches anyway. It can only help promote the women's game. Sadly there were quite a few highlights packages and games uploaded at the start of the season, but it appears to have stopped. Same for games on TV.

They could easily make each team post match video (I'm sure they all shoot something for analysis purposes at their level). It's a rule in the British Columbia men's premier league, and many women's matches will to to youtube as well.
Yeah, the women's league must film each match and share it with the England management. Hence how they can make the trylights. they just don't post the full matches.

Re: Women's Rugby thread

Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 7:48 pm
by eldanielfire
Le Crunch has already sold 15000 tickets :shock: :thumbup:

https://www.sixnationsrugby.com/en/news/women/32821.php

Re: Women's Rugby thread

Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 7:49 pm
by eldanielfire
Also a great "twin" video piece on Ellie Killdunne and Nollie Waterman:

https://twitter.com/EnglandRugby/status ... F32821.php

Re: Women's Rugby thread

Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 11:32 pm
by eldanielfire
Finally the famous Gloucester-Hartpury vs Harlequins epic match at the weekend highlights:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2mMNVI-Pf4&t=3s

Shaunagh Brown hatrick for Quins. Killdunne with 2 devastating individual tries to put space for G-H to go ahead, Quins close the gap, G-H kick a penality to go 4 ahead, the game ends with Quins parked on G-Hs line but not quite about to go over.

Re: Women's Rugby thread

Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 11:40 pm
by Nieghorn
eldanielfire wrote:Finally the famous Gloucester-Hartpury vs Harlequins epic match at the weekend highlights:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2mMNVI-Pf4&t=3s

Shaunagh Brown hatrick for Quins. Killdunne with 2 devastating individual tries to put space for G-H to go ahead, Quins close the gap, G-H kick a penality to go 4 ahead, the game ends with Quins parked on G-Hs line but not quite about to go over.
:thumbup:

Some nice tries and clutch kicking in that. A few individuals will have to look at how they align / workrate on defence, and how they deal with fends.

Kildunne is such a lovely runner.

Re: Women's Rugby thread

Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 11:47 pm
by eldanielfire
Nieghorn wrote:
eldanielfire wrote:Finally the famous Gloucester-Hartpury vs Harlequins epic match at the weekend highlights:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2mMNVI-Pf4&t=3s

Shaunagh Brown hatrick for Quins. Killdunne with 2 devastating individual tries to put space for G-H to go ahead, Quins close the gap, G-H kick a penality to go 4 ahead, the game ends with Quins parked on G-Hs line but not quite about to go over.
:thumbup:

Some nice tries and clutch kicking in that. A few individuals will have to look at how they align / workrate on defence, and how they deal with fends.

Kildunne is such a lovely runner.
Agreed. She makes flowing out of tackles look so easy.

Gloucester-Hartpury certainly look strong late in the season. A draw with Saracens and a win over Quins places them firmly as dark horses for the title if they remain in the top 4. Though they have the advantage Loughborough and Bristol are still fighting for that 4th spot.

Re: Women's Rugby thread

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 6:22 pm
by eldanielfire
A nice peice/celebration by Engalnd Rugby on the game hitting 30,000 women players playing club rugby.

http://sportteller.rfu.deltatre.net/sto ... Red_Roses_

Re: Women's Rugby thread

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 6:27 pm
by Lobby
Nieghorn wrote:
eldanielfire wrote:Finally the famous Gloucester-Hartpury vs Harlequins epic match at the weekend highlights:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2mMNVI-Pf4&t=3s

Shaunagh Brown hatrick for Quins. Killdunne with 2 devastating individual tries to put space for G-H to go ahead, Quins close the gap, G-H kick a penality to go 4 ahead, the game ends with Quins parked on G-Hs line but not quite about to go over.
:thumbup:

Some nice tries and clutch kicking in that. A few individuals will have to look at how they align / workrate on defence, and how they deal with fends.

Kildunne is such a lovely runner.
Yes, she just seems to glide past defenders. I think its the change of pace as much as anything; they think they've lined her up, and then she's just gone. Great to watch.

Re: Women's Rugby thread

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 10:28 pm
by Nieghorn
Coach (Findlay is the name?) and player mic'd up at a Quins' training session.

I don't know if it's just that Myers is a delight to look at, and my eyes are drawn to her presence on screen, but I suspect the camera operator took every op to get her on film. :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkGQZ5b9IG4

Re: Women's Rugby thread

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 11:02 pm
by eldanielfire
Nieghorn wrote:Coach (Findlay is the name?) and player mic'd up at a Quins' training session.

I don't know if it's just that Myers is a delight to look at, and my eyes are drawn to her presence on screen, but I suspect the camera operator took every op to get her on film. :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkGQZ5b9IG4
Yeah, Karen Findlay. Co-coach with Gary Street there at Quins.

Holly is just one of those women who "glows", she stands out and everything about her is cute or beautiful. No wonder the camera kept centering on her despite clearly not being the subject of the film.

Re: Women's Rugby thread

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 4:05 am
by Auckman
eldanielfire wrote:
Auckman wrote:http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/on-air/earl ... contracts/

NZ Womens Rugby has gone pro!

BF players to get pro contracts.


Apparently a pro competition is in the pipeline for an 8-week window over the summer months (January-Febuary) in 2019. However, nothing confirmed yet with plenty of work still to go over the commercial viability of it all.
Good news. How pro is it? The English league is not pro, but trains in a pro manner but the players are not paid. But I hear the French is.
All talk so far is only the elite players in the BF getting the contracts. The womens 7s team are already on fulltime contracts. As for the competition, I would be surprised if all the players in that competition were on fulltime contracts. I would think more along the lines of semi-pro at the most.

Re: Women's Rugby thread

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:31 am
by eldanielfire
Auckman wrote:
eldanielfire wrote:
Auckman wrote:http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/on-air/earl ... contracts/

NZ Womens Rugby has gone pro!

BF players to get pro contracts.


Apparently a pro competition is in the pipeline for an 8-week window over the summer months (January-Febuary) in 2019. However, nothing confirmed yet with plenty of work still to go over the commercial viability of it all.
Good news. How pro is it? The English league is not pro, but trains in a pro manner but the players are not paid. But I hear the French is.
All talk so far is only the elite players in the BF getting the contracts. The womens 7s team are already on fulltime contracts. As for the competition, I would be surprised if all the players in that competition were on fulltime contracts. I would think more along the lines of semi-pro at the most.
The competition is 8 weeks isn't it? Sounds like it could be that they might be paid for their time in that period.

Re: Women's Rugby thread

Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2018 1:39 pm
by eldanielfire
Quins vs Richmond attracted a world record for a women's club game yesterday. It was a great competition, both teams giving it all in a very, very physical encounter, with Richmond's late inability to kick distance or get out their 22 being the decider against them but they played well:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_02cfZI0FhQ

The crowd record was 4542:

http://www.quins.co.uk/news/harlequins- ... cord-crowd

For Nigehorn:

https://twitter.com/HarlequinsWomen/sta ... 2224126976

Re: Women's Rugby thread

Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2018 2:39 pm
by Nieghorn
Not that the Aussie 7s needed to get any more dominant, but if she's not already in the squad, she will be ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8eotoKkYG8Q

Re: Women's Rugby thread

Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 7:11 pm
by tabascoboy
Don't know if this was posted before elsewhere but...

Hong Kong Sevens - Qualification for the WSWS

Group A: South Africa, Kenya, Papua New Guinea, Mexico

Group B: Brazil, China, Kazakhstan, Hong Kong

Group C: Wales, Belgium, Argentina, Poland

https://www.worldrugby.org/sevens-series/news/320124

Re: Women's Rugby thread

Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2018 4:38 pm
by eldanielfire
Nieghorn porn for the first half of this video:

https://twitter.com/Harlequins/status/9 ... 6627635207

Re: Women's Rugby thread

Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2018 4:44 pm
by Nieghorn
eldanielfire wrote:Nieghorn porn for the first half of this video:

https://twitter.com/Harlequins/status/9 ... 6627635207

:lol: If you can hook a brother up... otherwise, stop torturing me! ;) (I just did a quick search to see by how much she's likely 'too young' for me ... and her LinkedIn says she studied History and Politics at uni ... again, this is torture!)

Re: Women's Rugby thread

Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2018 5:02 pm
by eldanielfire
Anyways now the 6 nations is over the women's league has a few weeks left. Saracens, Harlequins and Wasps have confirmed their semi-final places but Quins and Sarries play each other on Saturday to basically decide who tops the league and Gloucester play Loughborough to decide 4th place as there is only 2 points between them.

Looking at mid-table I have to say Bristol who have tons of talented players have been a disappointment this season. I wonder if it's because they lost a bit of street smarts and bulk from the pack. They should really be challenging but fell off after a bright start. They also had a coaching change mid-way through the season so I figured there were behind the scenes issues there.

It's also nice to see Richmond end the season strongly. They have survived with a grizzled pack and could do with some quality backs to be able to step-up. Like how Bristol lost a lot of players, I saw that Harlequins stole a fair few Richmond players which must have damaged them. If I was Wasps or Richmond i'd make offers to a lot of Saracens players who seem to have 2 or 3 teams of quality and top young talent. they have so really class youth like Harriet Austin or Cara Wardle who must be held behind getting less top quality game time and on top of that they seem to be able to produce an England U20 side by themselves. Surely lots of opportunity to offer game time, I'd imagine Wasps would be especially attractive to potential movers.

Re: Women's Rugby thread

Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2018 11:33 pm
by eldanielfire
Nieghorn wrote:
eldanielfire wrote:Nieghorn porn for the first half of this video:

https://twitter.com/Harlequins/status/9 ... 6627635207

:lol: If you can hook a brother up... otherwise, stop torturing me! ;) (I just did a quick search to see by how much she's likely 'too young' for me ... and her LinkedIn says she studied History and Politics at uni ... again, this is torture!)
If I could hook anybody up with her, I'd be in there myself so fast I'm crack the 100m world record over a mile.

Re: Women's Rugby thread

Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2018 11:52 pm
by Nieghorn
:lol: ... all's fair in love and war and all that.

Are you as far removed as me age-wise? I'm easily 5-10 years too old.

Re: Women's Rugby thread

Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 7:53 am
by eldanielfire
Nieghorn wrote::lol: ... all's fair in love and war and all that.

Are you as far removed as me age-wise? I'm easily 5-10 years too old.
I'm mid 30's. I assume you're a little older? But who knows, she might be into older dudes, keep your hopes up :thumbup:

Re: Women's Rugby thread

Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 3:49 pm
by Nieghorn
38 ... suspect you'd win the battle for her affections. :)

Re: Women's Rugby thread

Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2018 3:57 pm
by Lobby
For those asking for more TV coverage, Sky will be showing the Tyrrells Premier 15s final live on 29 April.

Re: Women's Rugby thread

Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2018 8:39 pm
by eldanielfire
Gloucester-Hartpury wins the battle of the rugby universities with Loughborough. I was at the Sarries game so I'll be watching the stream soon:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgtGYBUS_2w

Harlequins Ladies hold on to beat Saracens women as well. Very interesting as that is the most likely 2 teams to make the final in a few weeks it's now 1-1 between them.

Re: Women's Rugby thread

Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2018 8:54 pm
by eldanielfire
England Women saw a 20% increase in attendance and a 92% increase in sky viewing figures this season :)

http://www.englandrugby.com/news/englan ... 85345861=1

Re: Women's Rugby thread

Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2018 12:04 pm
by eldanielfire
Good article about how Welsh rugby went from 170 women playing to over 10,000 in 3 years:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-43316757

Re: Women's Rugby thread

Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2018 12:05 pm
by eldanielfire
I also look forward to Emma Urn stepping up from U20's to England. Since her injured she has been spectacular on the wing for Sarries. This try yesterday:

https://twitter.com/rugbydad678/status/ ... 7456436229

Re: Women's Rugby thread

Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2018 12:20 pm
by Nieghorn
eldanielfire wrote:I also look forward to Emma Urn stepping up from U20's to England. Since her injured she has been spectacular on the wing for Sarries. This try yesterday:

https://twitter.com/rugbydad678/status/ ... 7456436229
Burned two people with the in-out stutter! Wonderful stuff!


... and great story about Wales. I'm always a bit sceptical about numbers, but if true or something different, one can't deny that there's been a massive up-swell. :thumbup:

Was out at a joint initiative by two clubs to get kids playing minis last night. Turn up for free. See what the game's all about. Lots of physical challenges like races with a ball and mini games that didn't look like rugby. :? Very, very few girls and was told a story about a girl that walked off mid way through and never returned because there were a lot of boys who weren't passing her the ball.

Also sounds like numbers of coaches, and thus, school teams have dropped off in the city. In the Welsh example, I think having those officers - as I've been saying for ages - is what we need. There are fewer teachers with rugby backgrounds and there's a hesitation to even give touch / flag a go amongst them as the game is so foreign. Rugby people in the community have a near-impossible time getting into schools because it usually ends two hours before people get off work.

Re: Women's Rugby thread

Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2018 8:45 pm
by Nieghorn
Not that the play a lot of tests, but I'd wager she'll make the next Aussie squad ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSy00VmuOsM