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RugbyPass reporting that Borthwick applied for the vacant Ulster position and was rejected in favour of McFarland

Coupled with the Gustard exit it appears something is definitely not right in the England coaching setup atm


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England should have stuck with Lancaster for one more cycle and they would be favorites to win the WE next year.
For England to be killed in the pool stages of a WC is a step too far for the RFU I suppose.

There is a bit of a whiff of rats and sinking ship to the latest events.


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2018 12:13 pm 
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Huh, someone actually applied for the Ulster job? :shock:


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2018 12:15 pm 
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Huh, someone actually applied for the Ulster job? :shock:


Maybe he wanted to be learn how to be a top shagger?


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2018 12:18 pm 
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nardol wrote:
England should have stuck with Lancaster for one more cycle and they would be favorites to win the WE next year.
For England to be killed in the pool stages of a WC is a step too far for the RFU I suppose.

There is a bit of a whiff of rats and sinking ship to the latest events.


Give over :lol:


More likely Eddie has realised borthwick is a soft useless cùnt.


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2018 12:20 pm 
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Jeff the Bear wrote:
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Huh, someone actually applied for the Ulster job? :shock:


Maybe he wanted to be learn how to be a top shagger?


These jokes are a real merry-go-round. They keep coming back.


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2018 12:21 pm 
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Not sure why assistants can't have other jobs.


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2018 12:22 pm 
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Jeff the Bear wrote:
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Huh, someone actually applied for the Ulster job? :shock:


Maybe he wanted to be learn how to be a top shagger?


:lol: :lol: Do you get it? He's making a joke about rape! One that's been done to death already as well. He's so witty is our Jeff :lol: :lol:

:?


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2018 12:23 pm 
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PornDog wrote:
Jeff the Bear wrote:
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Huh, someone actually applied for the Ulster job? :shock:


Maybe he wanted to be learn how to be a top shagger?


:lol: :lol: Do you get it? He's making a joke about rape! One that's been done to death already as well. He's so witty is our Jeff :lol: :lol:

:?


Alleged rape.


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2018 12:28 pm 
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PornDog wrote:
Jeff the Bear wrote:
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Huh, someone actually applied for the Ulster job? :shock:


Maybe he wanted to be learn how to be a top shagger?


:lol: :lol: Do you get it? He's making a joke about rape! One that's been done to death already as well. He's so witty is our Jeff :lol: :lol:

:?


It's a joke relating to Instagram (and stupidity).


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openclashXX wrote:
RugbyPass reporting that Borthwick applied for the vacant Ulster position and was rejected in favour of McFarland

Coupled with the Gustard exit it appears something is definitely not right in the England coaching setup atm

Things must be really bad in England set up if the Ulster job is seen as a better option seeing as its akin to being sent north to the wall these days


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openclashXX wrote:
RugbyPass reporting that Borthwick applied for the vacant Ulster position and was rejected in favour of McFarland

Coupled with the Gustard exit it appears something is definitely not right in the England coaching setup atm

Things must be really bad in England set up if the Ulster job is seen as a better option seeing as its akin to being sent north to the wall these days

Ah, you're a hard border supporter


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DragsterDriver wrote:
nardol wrote:
England should have stuck with Lancaster for one more cycle and they would be favorites to win the WE next year.
For England to be killed in the pool stages of a WC is a step too far for the RFU I suppose.

There is a bit of a whiff of rats and sinking ship to the latest events.


Give over :lol:


More likely Eddie has realised borthwick is a soft useless cùnt.


Keep the faith :thumbup:


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2018 12:36 pm 
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They must have been offering good money and a reasonable amount of time and resources to set things straight, hardly surprising if they had decent interest in the role.


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Not sure why assistants can't have other jobs.



Do you mean doing a head coaching job and assisting national team at the same time, or leaving the national team for a club head coaching job?

If it's the latter, looks pretty bad when your two Lts want to jump ship one year out from the first big battle. No faith in the skipper? As Jack Aubrey says: "A happy ship is a good ship."


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2018 4:26 pm 
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pandion wrote:
Not sure why assistants can't have other jobs.



Do you mean doing a head coaching job and assisting national team at the same time, or leaving the national team for a club head coaching job?

If it's the latter, looks pretty bad when your two Lts want to jump ship one year out from the first big battle. No faith in the skipper? As Jack Aubrey says: "A happy ship is a good ship."

I'd say it's a tough life working as a coach under EJ. Most likely bearable if you're winning, probably not so much if you're losing.

I can't imagine it's a happy existence.


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2018 5:28 pm 
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Nieghorn wrote:
pandion wrote:
Not sure why assistants can't have other jobs.



Do you mean doing a head coaching job and assisting national team at the same time, or leaving the national team for a club head coaching job?

If it's the latter, looks pretty bad when your two Lts want to jump ship one year out from the first big battle. No faith in the skipper? As Jack Aubrey says: "A happy ship is a good ship."

I don't think assistant international can be called full-time really. It's probably why so many go stale.


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DragsterDriver wrote:
nardol wrote:
England should have stuck with Lancaster for one more cycle and they would be favorites to win the WE next year.
For England to be killed in the pool stages of a WC is a step too far for the RFU I suppose.

There is a bit of a whiff of rats and sinking ship to the latest events.


Give over :lol:


More likely Eddie has realised borthwick is a soft useless cùnt.

Quite hopeful that's what he thinks the problem is. He should keep on firing them until moral improves!


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2018 6:41 pm 
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pandion wrote:
Not sure why assistants can't have other jobs.

Because they end up doing one job shit. Leinster shared a skills coach with the national set up at one point and it didn't work.


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Must admit it looks like a long reach to make this into Eddie cleaning house.


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openclashXX wrote:
RugbyPass reporting that Borthwick applied for the vacant Ulster position and was rejected in favour of McFarland

Coupled with the Gustard exit it appears something is definitely not right in the England coaching setup atm

I'm more inclined to believe it shows these blokes are career minded. Does Edwards applying for the Quins job make you believe something is definitely wrong in the Welsh camp ?


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DragsterDriver wrote:
nardol wrote:
England should have stuck with Lancaster for one more cycle and they would be favorites to win the WE next year.
For England to be killed in the pool stages of a WC is a step too far for the RFU I suppose.

There is a bit of a whiff of rats and sinking ship to the latest events.


Give over :lol:


More likely Eddie has realised borthwick is a soft useless cùnt.


Ulster sound like a dream fit


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Jeff the Bear wrote:
PornDog wrote:
Jeff the Bear wrote:
unseenwork wrote:
Huh, someone actually applied for the Ulster job? :shock:


Maybe he wanted to be learn how to be a top shagger?


:lol: :lol: Do you get it? He's making a joke about rape! One that's been done to death already as well. He's so witty is our Jeff :lol: :lol:

:?


Alleged rape.


Its not alleged. He was found not guilty.


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2018 7:31 pm 
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Lads

*puts admin hat on*

please cool it re the court case. We had enough trouble with it before. Just rein it in please.

Thx.


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RugbyPass reporting that Borthwick applied for the vacant Ulster position and was rejected in favour of McFarland

Coupled with the Gustard exit it appears something is definitely not right in the England coaching setup atm

I'm more inclined to believe it shows these blokes are career minded. Does Edwards applying for the Quins job make you believe something is definitely wrong in the Welsh camp ?


This.

He has never been a club head coach and may well regard it as a gap in his CV that needs filled.


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Anonymous. wrote:
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RugbyPass reporting that Borthwick applied for the vacant Ulster position and was rejected in favour of McFarland

Coupled with the Gustard exit it appears something is definitely not right in the England coaching setup atm

I'm more inclined to believe it shows these blokes are career minded. [b]Does Edwards applying for the Quins job make you believe something is definitely wrong in the Welsh camp ?[/b]


After 9 years with Wales and 15 months to RWC2019, yes, yes it does make me concerned.


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Evidently, Ulster approached him and he turned them down.


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Evidently, Ulster approached him and he turned them down.

Nah.


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Evidently, Ulster approached him and he turned them down.

Nah.


Yep - RFU have officially denied that Borthers applied.

Doesn't make for anywhere such a good story though.


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Evidently, Ulster approached him and he turned them down.

Nah.


Yep - RFU have officially denied that Borthers applied.

Doesn't make for anywhere such a good story though.

Cos RFU would never play silly buggers.


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ovalball wrote:
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Evidently, Ulster approached him and he turned them down.

Nah.


Yep - RFU have officially denied that Borthers applied.

Doesn't make for anywhere such a good story though.


They are hardly going to come out and say it’s true are they


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Ulsters Red Hand wrote:
ovalball wrote:
Willie Falloon wrote:
ovalball wrote:
Evidently, Ulster approached him and he turned them down.

Nah.


Yep - RFU have officially denied that Borthers applied.

Doesn't make for anywhere such a good story though.


They are hardly going to come out and say it’s true are they

Why not.
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RFU chiefs have quashed talk of Steve Borthwick following fellow coach Paul Gustard out of the England set-up.

They confirmed that Eddie Jones’ right-hand man was approached by Ulster in relation to their vacant head coach role.

“Steve Borthwick is completely committed to England,” an RFU spokesperson said. “He has not applied for any other coaching roles since he joined England in 2016.”
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/rugby-un ... l-12755986


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2018 11:41 pm 
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they kind of have to say that or the smoke coming from underneath the bonnet would start turning to actual flames


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If Borthwick is actually looking to move on he will in due course. However I rather suspect this amounts to nothing more than an approach which was declined.


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